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Dan I have an offer for you go on I'm going to give you a copy of space engineers on Steam okay for all of your trading cards oh he said he was going to do this welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All Things nerdy I mean it's it's certain sounds like it might be the original draft of Prometheus so I'm going to assume it is and I'll say yeah sure how do we do this where do you want to meet up I I click here I'm ready to trade offer has been made he is ready for fight up ready to go okay can we negotiate my steam's not on so we can I'm I'm I'm putting the

offer there so D why you looking Matt I have a deal for you all right cuz I've already given you space and engers in the past have you yeah yes yeah very long time ago let me have a look Space Engineers there it is yep Space Engineers oh done transaction complete oh yeah I played this briefly any good Matt because I've just made a deal uh very good okay no it was fun actually I think I think I I played this together first yeah you and Simon played it yeah um it was F so the deal I have for you because you have more trading cards do I yes I mean yeah obviously and you already had Space Engineers so I had to mix it up so I've got Payday the Heist and Minion Masters for you for all of your trading cards the highest they're two games you will not

play I already have Payday the highest oh you're really selling it damn and what was the other one uh minion Masters minion Masters is that like a I have no idea what it is I have no idea why library is it uh what's that movie and uh what's that movie Despicable not minions well yeah all right minions would have been the easier film to think from the word minions but what it says here is an addictive fast-paced hybrid of deck building and Tower Defense I don't know I don't know why I have it but I don't know that I would play that but you know what fine whatever I don't care yeah I'm in the whatever I don't care except I can't see some kind of offer or invitation from

you l oh well I I sent it I I don't know how it works from now I mean I don't know steam that well the way I use steam is I buy spend lots of money on games that you never play yeah I buy games or I sometimes receive games as gifts and then I play them and then I don't know what the trading cards do or are for what do you can I ask and then don't don't worry the deal has been struck so I'm not going to use this against you but what are you gonna what are you going to do with them I'm going to try and get the set of some of the trading cards all right and then what will that get you Luke I'm not sure you and I play the same games I don't know that you're going to have the second half of sets that I've got um but what are you going to do with them I have a bit of an

addictive personality oh really and these are like achievements okay so that's all it is it's just that you want he collect these imaginary objects that mean nothing I mean look I've got a collection of X-Men cards from 1994 so I I understand the appeal somewhat oh you still have those yeah I got a full set the Animated Series they in my C in my wardrobe very nice one of the things that does happen is it helps you get your steam level up okay does steam have a level nothing like Dan you're steam level seven seven I assume that's quite good because I played a lot of Civ that sounds very high what what am I it's out of 10 I assume you're 13 13 W unlucky yes you're a pillar of the community I'm a pillar of the community and I'm almost double dance just repeating that for

everybody listening in case you didn't you didn't get the math on that well if he's a pillar of community what am I an obessive neurotic you're the uh you're the gravel that's holding up my pillar have a guess at the level well if I'm seven and and he's 13 I'm assuming you're 10 and something yeah in the '90s not quite I'm 57 okay well all right sounds good and what so I'm a pillar of the community what are you I I don't know I don't even know why you're a pillar of the community I don't really know steam that well I just saw it just in pillar of community well all I know about steam is that I just bought four new games in the Steam Sale but that I'm actually just replaying for the third time a game that I've already played twice so you know

yep when you click that's pretty much how it works when you click pillar of community you it'll it tells you a list of things you got to do to get it and actually I'm surprised that you don't have this already Luke you just to do that I've done most of that so what am I I'm uh it's not there for some reason oh I'm a community Ambassador I'm I'm missing three things well I bought I did buy some games this week uh and I received a game as a gift uh this week that I played uh I do want to talk about I can talk about it now or I can talk about it later talk about it now all right well I received as a gift uh from Darcy thank you very much sty uh I received firewatch oo I have that's a great game yeah have you played it no not yet it's

one of the ones that I picked up in the sale and that I'm waiting for my third playthrough of disco elesium to end before I go and have a look mate it's a good game is it it's real good yeah I really enjoyed this game I know I knew about it because I knew when it came out there was a little controversy or not controversy there were a bunch of [ __ ] I guess is what I should say who were mad yep that it's not long enough oh yeah which you know it's not it's it's more of a it's not deara it's a walking simulator well it isn't it isn't it's not it's not like dearesta where you just literally hold the [ __ ] walk button down and walk through the game you still do stuff and you make decisions that I I believe would probably affect certain things in

the game not you're not very like did you throw the skinny gipping girls radio in the water no spoilers no I didn't oh I did okay hm I didn't even I want to know what he was doing to that but oh I guess if we're looking to entice Dan to play it no you've enticed me also I already have it yeah yeah skinny dipping girls so this game was [ __ ] great did you played through it luk yeah yeah cuz Xbox achievements yes and it was a really good game yeah it was like yeah it is short I finished it in four hours yeah some people went out purchased a game finished it quickly and then got refunds and those people are dicks no this was this is really great really great story really interesting uh beautiful art sad poignant it's good and you do want to take your time with it

and actually experience the story and actually listen to what's being said Y what was that game that came out around the same time as Dear Esther but you played as an old woman and you just walked her from the Gate of a cemetery to her husband's grave she died randomly was that just called the graveyard or something maybe it was it the graveyard I she was so old and sick that it was incredibly difficult to even just push forward the just the resistance was and sometimes she would just die yeah yep I haven't played that I've played it I did you know what i' played it I don't have it but I think it was free at least for a while it might have even been just online come to think of it $5 buy it it's got mixed reviews and I can guarantee the most reviews are like

I this you just died what the [ __ ] did I just play number one negative you just watch a video does it have Steam Trading Cards how do I tell speaking of the trading cards okay so I've got I've got steam open now and I'm looking at my trading cards I don't seem to have cards for every game I've played so they must only come out for certain games right yes yeah okay so it'll be one of the tags on stores what do you think you're going to complete a set of out of disco alium which you haven't played Rusty Lake hotel Rusty Roots M telling lies you got that Luke no um I've actually finished telling lies but I finished that on the Xbox okay Dark Side detective that's a great game yeah last doors one and two I have um something I like to admit that I'm not proud of I will buy trading

cards you can sell your trading cards on the steam store and you can trade real money for them and I have been known to buy them okay complete sets for games you've not played and have no intention of playing normally I will have at least have like one training card so I've either manag to cons one of my friends into giveing me all their trading cards or I played the game most is choice of word there con he's conders yeah well okay I will I will admit you could have sold your trading cards and you could have made like one cent man I still can I haven't clicked any I haven't I haven't received an offer I haven't clicked anything no hand [Music] [ __ ] M there's probably people out there bidding on Rusty Lake Roots trading

cards as we speak tring card I did see there was one you you had um Matt you had uh like a set of cards so you basically get to unwrap and it gives you three cards I did actually check to see how much that was worth 13 cents wow oh yeah Tesla effect that one that's the one oo from what game uh Tesla effect that's the it's a full yeah it's a full motion video game that came out a couple years ago so there's a button here that says unpack and they worth more or less if I click that button they are worth less if I click this button or you might get lucky and get a foil card but the odds of that are very slim I remember foil variants I'm tempted to click this button just to see is it going to upset you if I click

this loot because I actually don't care he's not going to really don't care either he's GNA I'm just GNA I'm just going to unpack it myself so yeah I'm just curious I've never done this before four do it do it tell me what you get all right unpack unpacking I got I got just some cards just characters from the game yep all right and good chance you already had them as well could be I wouldn't know so you're going to take all of these cards for me I've got four pages of them you're taking all of them oh that was the play yes all these I got some uh transistor ones I got some thimble weed Park on you know what I don't care hey I got an unhack two one why don't I have thimble weed Park ones play fimble weed Park Luke probably took them from

you I I I think we have traded CS in the past yeah you're right I think we have and by traded I I mean I think I just gave you all my cards at one stage yeah are you going to take my unhack two one oh unhack you can keep that one if you want no it's all right it's all right no mate that's that's worth a lot online unhack for sure yeah yeah I I do have uh three simble weed Park ones and I have not played the game so okay well there's that explained oh I've received Oh no just I've got stuff still haven't received an offer anyway I'll wait for that but yeah firewatch play it definitely Dan you love it I'm I'm I'm sure you'll love it yeah I'm counting on it very good how's your hardcore playthrough of disco alium going it's going pretty good it's tough I was died yet uh no I haven't died I

haven't died uh once you know how to stay alive it's difficult to actually die that's my motto yeah mostly if you're going to die into scholium it's towards the start of the game when you haven't yet figured out how to stay alive because the game doesn't tell you in any way uh how to over an old woman or how to know when you're about to die yeah sometimes at the end of a long conversation yeah it's [ __ ] annoying you rage quit and then never play it again I'm glad I did I'm glad I did come back what a [ __ ] great game I I'm tempted to play again just because I want to I might play it on Hardcore but I'd like to play it and like lean into being an arrogant prick just because I think that would be fun to do

like just be an arrogant prick to everyone else while you're playing it like you want to come to din [ __ ] off I'm playing disco Lum I don't know who you are I love it that like people get really into this too I was on the forums the other day and somebody's like can I uh can I C play through disco alium as a socialist Democrat like knock yourself out buddy do what you want one thing that happened to me in this playthrough that didn't happen at all in the other two Matt did you meet the man who is traveling in the store in the what are those big metal [ __ ] cubes that they put on ship packing crates oh yeah yeah businessman the businessman yes yeah I did I never met him before I met him now did you did you get him to invest yes I did I did so I'm

flush man and and on Hardcore Mode that means a lot because you don't have a lot of cash yeah no I met him when I got to investment Kim was [ __ ] baffled yeah when I thought that's when I was like I think Kim's Kim's starting to believe in my [ __ ] at this point the weeks after listening to you guys talk about I still have no idea what he's are talking about but I so want to play it put it this way Luke you meet a businessman but you can't look him directly on because light bends around him differently because of the huge wealth disparen between you and him yeah what yeah he's so rich you can you can barely look upon Him mhm and so you have to convince him to invest M it's like looking at him through a prism the the lights just going skui and he lives in a

shipping container yeah and travels the world as one does what a game yeah yeah sorry spoilers I don't really think it is though no it's not because you can't necessarily even get to it I don't think there's anything as is count as a spoiler in this no no I see that I actually was looking into this a lot this week because I was interested Dr disrespect um we talked about last week how he got banned and I can see I have heard a rumor about why go on now this is still all rumor because no one's made an official announcement but from what I've heard it might be because he was lying about mixer so he recently signed a like multi-million dollar deal with twitch to be stay with him and be exclusive but leading up to that he was

talking about jumping ship to mixer M and so well recently just came out that mix's not going anywhere oh mix's gone and gone to Facebook so they wouldn't have offered him any money to go so there's rumors com around that he was just lying to try and get a better deal with twitch and they've just gone [ __ ] you okay they banned just a rumor I mean I don't know how that works legally because well twitch can ban you for whatever reason they feel like right but they they would have to pay him out still right wouldn't they or no well it depends on the contract and yeah I suppose yeah good but because it's sort of weird because they recently banned Trump's Donald Trump's Channel yes and they've actually given a reason for it yeah the hate speech but then do

disrespect there not as we can't discuss it it's like that's why I think that was interesting they've not no one said anything even he's not said anything about it is really strange if if he's not saying anything you know there's money involved yeah and I watched his his last stream and it is weird the way that it ended like he gets a message on his phone looks at it and goes ah [ __ ] or something like that but then before that even before that he starts talking about how this this difficult time we'll get through it or whatever and then he gets a message on his phone and he goes [ __ ] and then he just ends gone so weird are you serious that's like a found footage movie yeah it's it's super weird and that's the really the last we've heard of him except for

one cryptic uh tweet yeah he said that he's not been told why but uh he'll we'll get through this together or something like that he tweeted that's it has it normally you you think that he'd be going it's not true or just trying to say anything he's going to fight it but there's nothing for him to deny at this point yeah but I wasn't trying to see that little kid's dick at E3 he was being very he's being very quiet which is weird so something Big's happened or maybe and maybe we'll here and maybe we won't we'll hear eventually I assume so but then again maybe not a few people have come out and said they know but they don't want to discuss it and yeah it comes back to money I had a rumor read heard I read a rumor yeah people

keep telling me people keep calling me up and telling me rumors that I keep hearing no I read online there was a a rumored that he and some other streamers had been talking about starting their own streaming service and they got in TR well that twitch got pissed off at them for that that's come out as not being true stop calling me Liars the the guys who are running the thing went no that's nothing to do with that where nowhere near even launching all right and I don't think they had any money behind it you're wrong you're wrong wouldn't be the first time well listeners if uh if you're missing Dr disrespect you're looking for a new twitch streamer might I suggest [ __ ] 4 you're actually going to you're going to stream something for us l i I have a

we have a actually we have a twitch Channel called multiple nasm we do oh is that where you stream yeah okay well that's where I streamed remember that once or twice about two years ago gotcha maybe I will replace Dr disrespect I think Dan should stream his disco Elian playthrough I think he should imagine watching someone else's disco elesium yeah that would be really frustrating watching them read for hours and hours yeah oh is it so you have to read do you it's not all voice acted no no this partially voice acted basically a conversation will start with voice actors and then text will take over there just too much text I assume it was just not feasible with budgetary constraints and and all that and also I I like that there there's still a few spellow in

there spelling mistakes yeah but they have they've apparently fixed that up a lot since launch ah spellow I haven't heard that in a long time well you know it's written by a bunch of Eastern Europeans oh no no no I know I wasn't I wasn't having to go I just I actually I kind of like it it's yeah I like it too it's Charming that's to the charm yeah the funny thing is I probably wouldn't realize cuz you'd be skipping it CU you wouldn't yeah yeah well no I just assume that's the way the words written well actually it's funny you say that Matt because the the the first playthrough that I did I I think I didn't realize too just how important every line of text was and I kind of skimmed a little bit certainly

more than I'm doing in this playthrough because you you really do get Clues as to the direction you should be heading by sure by reading everything but of course the first time you play a game often you're just Keen to finish the game yep yeah or you're like I'll talk to this guy but I'm thinking about this other thing that I'm going to do kind yeah that's right in fact to the point now where I I'll only start talking to someone if I know I have the patience to really get into it with them yeah I think I I skipped a bit of you know there the the ravers in the tent I skipped not skipped but skimmed a lot of that dialogue because I I feel like I don't think this is pertinent to the case well actually this my second playthrough I didn't speak to them at

all I didn't do any of that side quest right okay yeah you don't really need to I guess yeah I'm doing it the third playthrough because I'm I'm trying to be as inclusive as I can be under the circumstances of the hardc coreness but uh yeah the second time I didn't bother with anything that wasn't directly related to the [Music] murder can I ask another question about a game that I've never played please I I've never played the last of us because I've never had a ah Playstation 3 or and uh so I don't know why playing it will make me violently angry at the voice actors who participated in the making of it so can somebody who's played it please explain to me why the voice actors are getting death threats I actually I don't know I

I've played a bit of the first one I have it I want to play actually want to play through it so uh that might be something that happens in the near future the first one the second one I don't have a PS for so I can't play it but people are mad at Laura Bailey for some reason um they're just mad in general so I mean I don't understand how I actually don't understand how you could be mad at Laura Bailey like cuz she's one of the well I mean I don't know her personally but she just seems like one of the nicest people in the universe I don't understand how you could be mad at her so it's treating her like she's the character when she's just on The Voice or that she she [ __ ] wrote story or or anything beyond she just did voice of the character that she

at least should have spoken up when they when she read the script and said no I'm not saying this my character wouldn't do that yeah I'm not yeah I refuse Mark Hamill style but here are s messages she's getting mhm I will stab you yeah I'm going to find where you live and Slaughter you for what you did to whatever whoever Slaughter mark my [ __ ] just Slaughter I will find you and I will kill your kid [ __ ] me [ __ ] off mate that is that's not intense that's not on I hope your parents died by a hard cancer for killing my [ __ ] hell a hard cancer not an easy one [ __ ] you dumb Abby [ __ ] go [ __ ] yourself yeah that's a good one my favorite just want to say you should die [ __ ] [ __ ]

you you ruined it yep she ruined it personally okay now I just I I don't like people what's a hard cancer yeah exactly is there a soft cancer I hope you die by a soft cancer cancer that's like a [ __ ] not on easy mode on hard mode yeah hard hardcore hardcore I beat hard cancer yeah that's true yeah you beat cancer on hard yep so Laura Bailey is a voice actress she is on critical role and in like a ton of video games actually there's the one she's probably in every video game that we've ever played in some capacity so if you don't know who she is you have heard her voice before yeah I got a shock about one some some she I was like gears five Spider-Man

Catwoman yeah yeah they all they all they all pop up all over the place but uh she's great voice actress uh and she did not write the plot of the last of us two so please don't harass her about it but what what what does she do do we know I'm I don't care about spoilers so don't think she's the only one getting the hate I do know what it is it does actually say in the in the article here but I don't want to say it because I don't want to ruin anything for anybody yeah cuz it seems like that seems like a pretty big spoiler can you remember and tell me off a cuz I want to know what's so bad it's right here the kill her kid is it okay well clearly I didn't read it that carefully it it also although it does say m spoilers so I'm like okay that's a mild spoiler all right fine I mean I

don't know I haven't played the game but how far down do I have to scroll Matt uh it's just under there's a there's a picture of her of her with of her with her microphone and then underneath it there is a little paragraph there and it'll tell you what she does okay okay I mean it seems like play first game video game type of plot Point yeah without knowing the details yeah probably worth murdering [ __ ] okay yeah just don't [ __ ] me man just delete the internet delete it it's not the thing is you're allowed to not like things yeah but you don't threaten people who didn't create them like well she did she was involved in creating them but she didn't decide that was

going to happen but Matt even if she did oh okay you're like if you want to kill someone threaten want to kill he's the [ __ ] writer threaten the director threaten the studio don't creative director yeah Jesus the animator That animated that scene threaten him yeah here's his home address go there now this is your right as an American not like things but and you can actually voice that hey I didn't like this but you don't have to go straight to death threats yeah I know like people they should kill themselves there's a scale of how upset you should be and this is on the far end of it and I I just what I hate the most is that this this woman this voiceover

artist she makes a decent living this is her job you know what I mean and she probably [ __ ] loves her job because this is a great job she gets the voice characters games hella fun and she's like you know I'm you know I might not be saving lives but I'm certainly not hurting anyone you know at best I'm I'm making people happy with my games and people are like I hope you [ __ ] die of a hard cancer it's just all worth it in the end [ __ ] hell and just the idea that you're like you're like I'm so mad about this plot Point MH who's the voice actress who did the voice of the character that did the thing in the game that I'm mad about I'm going to [ __ ] harass her and I I understand like I I can I can I can get my head around the

fact that there might be one person with such a lack of understanding of how video games work that they might think that she resp yeah but the fact just put all the actors in improvise the plot and then they make the game out of it yeah and she's like I'm going to do this thing and everyone else is looking at her like don't do it don't [ __ ] do it they're going to be so mad at you when they find out you do yeah they're like are you [ __ ] crazy when we release the multiple nerdgasm video game I want to put plot points in there so dastardly that we get death threats and if we don't I'm going to consider it not a success because we will be responsible for whatever do game yeah mark words yeah well I think you you get more death threats on the sequel once people are

really in let's hurry up and make two then yeah y make two games yeah that's right spoilers Dave doesn't survive till the second the the funny thing about all of this though is with these E A lot of these people still haven't played the game this all a lot of this actually started even happening before people had had a chance to play it they read online so they haven't actually experienced the story themselves oh oh cuz there was spoilers leaked at some point right there was some spoilers leaked but a lot of like the the negative reviews and everything started with when the game came out like instantly right but the game's like a 10h hour 10 15 hour game to finish mhm within four hours had been review bombed yeah but it's it's still

got extremely big reviews big reviews it's got extremely good reviews yes MH what sorry what was the question is this the Ellen pagee character no no no no that's Ashley Johnson is the voice of her right yes yeah and then honestly I I considered buying a PS4 just to play this [ __ ] game it looks great the reviews are amazing but um if it's going to enrage me to the point of trying to cancerized someone maybe I'll give it a Miss no but you're not a you're not a raving Maniac so maybe you'll be all right you know I think there are plenty of people out there who AR what metric do we have now where I I'm like the the Ane end of a stick you know I just imagine all of these

tweets were written by Kuno and then uh let me open this back up again hold on hold on move on no no one wants to hear my Kuno impersonation again anyway [ __ ] you you Dy [ __ ] well speaking of death threats remember someone got who got death threats written death when he was going to play Batman mhm oh yeah well I mean just about everyone who's played Batman I mean I think I don't remember that happening because I was a kid when Batman came out and I just I'd never seen him in anything else Michael Keaton was the perfect choice for Batman but yeah I've SE since seen documentaries of the making of stuff of

Batman and yeah he did literally got death threats which is crazy but at that the only Batman movie was the 1966 so they're like he's gonna ruin it yeah exactly Michael Katon with a with a can of shark repellent bat spray I don't think so you [ __ ] you you piece of [ __ ] the thing is though I don't know if you remember Matt cuz you and I both saw at the cinema Luke did you see this at the cinema the 1989 and I remember people getting up and walking out yeah really see I also I don't remember people walking out but I remember a whole bunch of people my school not wanting to go and see it because they were like this is not Batman I've seen the trailer he's threatening to kill people he's wearing

all black what the [ __ ] is wrong with him and I I remember when I went I went to the the Hayden twin the not the big Hayden the the High Street one that only had the two little Cinemas in it I saw it there I think that later became a strip club and then a dinner theater at some point but but when I but I was weary because I felt like taking your clothes off yeah I assumed that's what was happening um I was nine but uh the the kind of the voices in my head of the people at school like it's it's going to be really dark and then when it starts and it's got that elfas score and the camera is kind of traveling through what looks like a tunnel and then it reveals it's the actual it's like a big Stone bat symbol but I actually thought to

myself for a sec like oh [ __ ] is this is this movie going to be scary like is this going to be a scary Batman yeah yeah it wasn't scary [ __ ] awesome that first scene on the rooftop was the [ __ ] most badass thing I'd ever SE when I was a kid I haven't seen it in a long time I think I needed to rewatch I watched it last year and the thing that strikes me about it because I I love it I I think you could remove prints out of it and it wouldn't be harmed by it but that's really my only criticis would agree except that the funniest part about it is that there is no love story with Vicky Vale they have sex once and then he ghosts her for the rest of the movie She obsessively follows him around Alfred even lets her into the bat cave at one point and like he's looking at

Alfred like this is a chick I banged once yeah Alfred's a [ __ ] do you like every chick I bang down here I was hoping to bang her myself sir but it's a shame that he'll never play Batman again right the new still still not playing Batman right is that it [ __ ] week 407 no change Michael Keon still not Batman uh no Matt you might be interested to hear there's talks that he may be returning to the DC Universe as what Batman in some form possibly in The Flash movie so so is this going to be lost interest a little bit but all right is this this going to be the actual like

replacement to bat Fleck or is this a standalone or is this well I don't know this particular Flash comic that it is rumored the next Flash movie will be based on but evidently he meets up because I assume it's because he can travel through time a little bit when he goes really fast um he meets up with an elderly Bruce Wayne and uh it's Michael so that they're tipping it might be Michael Keaton because if it's not going to be him it's either going to be Val Kilmer or uh George Clooney yeah George Clooney and I'm not into that but I'd love to see Keaton return as it and I've also heard that they might possibly leverage this to pass the torch onto a newer younger Batman through a familiar older

Batman which is not a bad idea cuz Affleck's out isn't he he's ale 100% out and I think would surprise me are we assuming Robert patson's Batman is not connected to this universe no that's a standalone I believe that's going to be a bit like Joker yeah so I wouldn't be surprised if in this Flash movie Michael Keaton's elderly Batman is hanging around with a young boy who then becomes wouldn't surprise me no who then becomes Batman you know in in the next one yeah his young Ward yeah yeah because he knows the only way to successfully become Batman is to become traumatized so he's traumatizing a young boy and to get literally adopted by Batman yeah and he killed his parents and then adopted him and now he's making

him Batman yeah yeah one day you'll kill me and take on the mantle of Batman and Batman works yeah yeah I still thought it weird so never take my kids to the movies for that exact reason ke went and did that what was it Hawkman or I forget the falcon that was a fuing great movie it and then he got to do and then he got went and did Spider-Man oh and he was great in that he was [ __ ] fantastic in that and now he's going to go back to Batman it just seems a little weird but it's also quite awesome at all at the same time yeah all we need juice don't they throw around they're going to make a sequel to that every now and again been doing that for decades we getting Bill anded 3 so I got to watch

Beetlejuice again now what a great movie I watched it so often when I was younger that yeah I don't I don't know if I necessarily want to see it again handbook for the Recently diseased deceased it's showtime I can't believe we're eating cantones throwing myself off the winter River Bridge Okay I want to watch it again if it's emulated or real yeah I think it's up bottom to top if a a cabinet and left to right now there's some dispute that's like oh maybe a maybe an actual machine can load that way and so they like investigating start just like mind you they've invited him to come back and [ __ ] play it again in front of them

and they've told him we'll give you all the titles back if you're still the best at it well that's the the trouble though right and I can stand not wanting to do that because what if you can't yeah yeah like that's like every year at the Olympics you had to go back and win that same gold medal all over again yeah just in case you had to go back and do the same time yeah you've always got to beat previous one yeah that's it not you must have cheated the first time yeah yeah even though I'm an old man now yeah that's right 50 years ago you won the 100 meter dash do it again or you're [ __ ] out yeah prove it I can understand not wanting to but then I don't know cuz I I still remember watching the king of Kong and you watch that video and you see the tape go a

little weird when it went to a million yep yeah even bring that up time I just don't watch the king of Kong look at the people the characters in it and then tell me how you can take any of this seriously like these people are just characters like they're not I don't know there's nothing scientific about any of this you know what I'm saying like did you did either of you ever watched the centipede one no there's another one that came terrifying after and it was about the first guy to get like a score of a billion on centipede or something and about him going back and trying to redo it it's actually quite interesting H I recommend going and watching that cuz it's got a lot of the same people coming back in and you s see a different of them a centipede side all right

what's it called trying remember what it's called Centipede something about snake or something the Sultan of centipede that's what I would have called it king of Kong trying to remember um give me a second uh oh while you while you're doing that I haven't finished this but I thought i' quickly mention it the new Unsolved Mysteries on Netflix is very good watched the first episode today actually yeah interesting yep I'm into it I'm into it it's good I missed the old guy in the trench coat in the Smokey alley but then again I just missed the 80s in general he's in the background of the opening credits briefly I think he might have died that guy but do they know what happened I'm not basing that on anything but that's the final episod is about him well we're watching one today and and

and like five the end turns to me and was like [ __ ] I like what's going to happen I'm like nothing or it wouldn't be an episode of un yeah like they start off filming each episode knowing there's no end to anything yeah if they knew how any of these people died they would not be making this show about them well that's the thing if you actually knew it wouldn't be interesting at all oh I don't know they could still just drag it out and then at the end be like he was gay and he didn't want anyone to find out so he killed himself yeah that's what I think happened in the first episode said oh do you huh I think he's gay with his friend and he couldn't he was cuz he he was such a hardcore Christian and and family man and interesting yeah and that's why the

best friend's not talking that's my theory and if there's one thing I know about is closeted gays Man versus snake the long and Twisted Tail of nibler that is a int name yeah g with snake but still that's a pretty good title yeah the game's actually nibler off not centipede and so it all comes down to this guy got a billion score like back when the game first came out but then there was no photo of it or anything so he comes back in late two like 2015 something to try and set the score again okay and yeah that's the show no spoilers no spoilers Nia is basically it's snake combined with

Pac-Man yes it's like it's like playing snake but in a maze and you eat things as you go yeah it's my life I don't know what that means Matt but fine fine speaking of Unsolved Mysteries you know what I'd like I'd like a follow-up season or at least one episode to just follow up the 80s Unsolved Mysteries that just tells us what happened Mysteries yeah it's just the guy going they were unsolved in the ' 80s but we've got DNA now so here's the answers and it's just like killed by the uncle raped and murdered and left in the shed yeah yeah were were they actually unsolved or was it just good television to say they're unsolved well these ones are unsolved as far as I know and then actually the the first one was the the rooftop one right the the

hole in the roof yeah someone pointed out um I I saw an article because I was trying to look up stuff and it said uh someone on Reddit has has found a big the cas what I was thinking is every episode I'm just going to go to Reddit afterwards and actually find out what happened well I saw this headline it said someone on red found a big clue and I was like oh [ __ ] what is it and I went through and it was like [ __ ] thing I noticed when I was watching it but obviously I figured they wouldn't have in you know the cryptic note that he left it had a list of movies yeah someone I read it was like one of those movies was the game starring Michael Douglas yes and if you've seen that movie you'll know that it was all part of some elaborate system that he was

part of as a game and he he jumped off the roof cuz I like no that's not what happened to him yeah and also that was one movie on a list of movies all quite except all the M Night shamalan movies were there yeah were favorites there were then a whole bunch of really good movies so you know hit and miss taste but the Matrix was on there well have you've seen The Matrix you know that he jumps off the roof and he falls down and he goes bounces into the floor yeah yeah so maybe he thought he was going to bounce in a in a way he did in a way doesn't he fly at some point he flies in the last he FES in the last shot of the movie and then never again because they didn't make any others that's right and then except for Matrix 4 yeah which is coming out we'll see we'll see nothing

the wowski have made in the last 20 years has enticed me to see Matrix 4 including Matrix 2 and three it's only one of the witowski doing this and then Kiana Reeves which one said uh the weird one or the other one uh I'm not sure which one the no I can't don't don't the larger one okay yeah that's not offensive to say that right one of them's got a bigger build the one who doesn't even try yep mhm but yeah ke Reeves uh apparently thinks there's something there but I don't know man maybe he's doing like a Harrison 4 thing just going back and doing sequels to everything before he retires yeah I can't wait for the old

man surf movie that could be next yeah a Point Break yeah Point Break Point Break to point breaker broken hip so I think one of the things he's seeing is that big paycheck I I don't know if he cares about that stuff from what I know about keano he doesn't give a [ __ ] keano doesn't give a [ __ ] yeah he's not interested in money he just loves movies that's all those stories about him being on set just being like [ __ ] I [ __ ] love movies like like that's an actual quote MH yeah but I'm sure you add an extra zero onto something and that entices him a bit more to do a movie he's like I could buy a few more hogies to sit alone sad in a park and eat yeah he was in um alamia in California eating an ice cream on the

set of the Matrix 4 a few months back so just sat by himself in the gutter eating an ice cream cone yeah because it's how he rolls is it true that he never bought a house he just lives in hotels I mean I don't know that might be true I read that about him I know he um he loves riding his bike around and he he he was on I think it might have been on Nerdist or something a while back he didn't he was talking about riding a bike and how he's not allowed to ride um while he's doing a movie while he's making a film yeah because they they won't him yeah yeah I remember uh when they're filming Star Wars Y and McGregor kept getting trouble riding his bike to work yeah I literally saw you and McGregor ride his bike to work because while he was filming Star Wars I was

working at Fox Studios the other side of Fox Studios nothing to do with Star Wars but it sort of does make sense why they get scared about actor oh yeah cuz if something happens to you the movie's [ __ ] yeah yeah you're a yeah it's a big investment well that's why actors have stunt men it's not because they can't do it although half the time they can't but it's because you're not insured to do it like if something goes wrong with that take yeah all these people are out of work and there's no movie yeah no I've heard that before too where somebody was like no I want to do the stunts and they were like no you're not doing them yeah but that is that that boils down to every role on a film set too like I've had people think they're helping out by going and moving a light

and it's like no don't touch that light if the gaffer pulls that light off and it falls on him and crushes his leg we're insured if you do it we're not yeah we're [ __ ] yeah and I will [ __ ] you so that does that me next time we're filming I don't have to move the lights my lights are very light now I imagine it would probably more expensive to ensure You Luke so yeah maybe yeah no one's uring Luke let's just have a look at your medical history here oh why you in good shape now oh oh dear the doctor says it'll be a miracle if you survive the shoot at all according to this you're already dead yeah I may very well

be that's my favorite quote from a show called bottom uh bot bottom Rick M and Adrien Edmonson yep that's a good show it's not a good show but it is iron is Rick m is dead that's true you know they nearly made a season four of that show H but Adrian pulled out at the last moment and went no one wants to see this now a I love pulling out at the last moment and saying [Laughter] that so uh cyber Punk which will not be sensed in Australia I little amazed by that does that mean it's not as delicious as we want it to be apparently it doesn't mean that it's still going to be censored in Japan which uh thanks to that we can tell what's being censored there's going to be a lot of nudity there going to be a lot of uh uh well genitals in particular

have been removed from the Japanese version lot of genitals a lot of genitals they've been replaced with uh tentacles they're allowed and and sexual violence has been removed which is why I'm amazed it's not getting a censored version in AUST sh but here we are evidently you can you're going to play this entire game first person and you're still going to have sex yeah so it'll be interesting interesting is the word yes yes well I am interested in this game I watched I want this game to come out already I watched the first night City Wire the other week uh I'm not sure when they're doing the next one but I watch that too cuz it was really great they I don't know what that is can you explain that

so yeah so CD Project Read uh the developer on as it's leading up to release they're going to be doing this thing called the night City Wire which is like a live stream thing about the game and the first one they showed a new trailer with a lot of footage uh they showed uh there was an interview with the developers about um certain things and we got to see the oh [ __ ] what do they call it the the mechanic where so in the world oh I'm trying to see what brain Dance It's called brain Dance So In the game people have these implants that record everything mhm and so and so like it records what you see and what you feel uh your entire experience records it but it also because it's not tied to just you it records what's going on around you and so apparently part of

the plot is that there's like uh they make porn using it obviously mhm and then they also uh snuff films are very popular on the black market oh um oh so but in the game you will use it to solve puzzles so the example they showed in the video is there's a guy robbing a liquor store and then so they implant you with his his recording and then you can play it back so you watch it the first time so you basically experience everything he experienced and then after that you can kind of move around and use the additional sensors to investigate other things like playback a memory from multiple angles yes that's great exactly right yeah that's cool and then and then from you can say like okay when he walks

in there a security camera there let's hack in and get the footage from that camera and then include that in the memory and then you can kind of consolidate this whole picture of what happened to solve and figure out what happened yeah the only thing I'm starting to worry about this game is it might be too big and to in-depth that's that well they cut out uh some some stuff apparently like there was going to be wall running and puzzles to do with that that's all cut out now so okay but they did say the the brain dance thing the recording thing is a fundamental part of the plot it's not just some side thing because they hate in games where you know where it's just like they didn't say it outright but they they meant like you know the Assassin's

Creeds where you got to collect feathers and all that kind of [ __ ] they don't do that yeah so everything is Story related it's all about characters it's not just filler [ __ ] I can't like I know in uh oh was it the district what's the game where you're playing in New York the division division the division and yeah there's these cool Parts where you can go and see sort of recordings of what's happened but there it's nothing to do with your character at all it's just yeah it's pretty cool but yeah it's just like what's happening to other people yeah it's kind of the plot a bit yeah Matt what is your mug uh my mug is a bones coffee Highland Grog oh mug I'm going to shock you both bones coffee is a coffee brand I started drinking coffee my God

now I I 43 I don't know what coffee I don't know what kind yet so what are you starting off with I forget what I got I didn't like it though so I got to get another one hey sorry are you drink instant or you drinking actual coffee I'm drinking actual coffee I brought a coffee machine oh huh and so if I I can use my phone or I can say hey popular search engine make me coffee and it will turn the coffee machine on and grind it up and then Brew it for me what yeah what kind of machine is it it's some milk and and pop a sugar cube in there and stuff too or it won't do that it'll just Brew it for me and keep it warm till I go get it I'm still trying to work out the finer details it's called the smarter coffee second

generation interesting Matt's ordering one right now I'm looking at it we have an espresso machine now so that's a thing yeah yeah I have a oh this is actual brewed coffee yeah this is not okay so you have that in Australia now well no I had to ship this over from the UK I've actually found out I don't I I I drink coffee when I'm in America cuz I can just get coffee yeah well that's what this is yeah I use a French press to make it but yeah but here I've got to get a fancy thing mocka Twist of lime stand on your hip and jump around whereas I know that I don't know that lime is what you want in a coffee I don't think I I reckon I can make lime work you you know what you should try is a Vietnamese coffee oh is that condensed

milk yeah it's so they make um I think in in in London I think it's the Vietnamese coffee I had and it was [ __ ] delicious MH it's it's [ __ ] it's so good it's so cuz the first the first one I got I forget what the name of it I'm not liking it at all I'm trying to just get through it as quickly as possible so I've got to try and find the coffee for me which is going to be hard here but I will find it and I'll buy it in bulk I can buy one of these on Amazon mhm man all right this thing looks [ __ ] cool man I didn't know this existed I mean this would certainly make my mornings lazier yeah cuz you can actually just set it up to like doing the whole High machine good good morning and it will go and do your routine and part of

the routine can be turning the coffee machine on it does not have very good reviews on Amazon now that I'm looking at it though that's the problem the actual coffee no the machine oh glitchy but I think that's coming down to I think people are thinking this is I don't know you got to get the settings right and get it how you want it sure and also cleaning the filter yeah this guy is oh you got to fill the water Reservoir every night oh crimey River yeah yeah um so that person about yeah that person is probably drinking about six eight coffee cups a day well I mean we're g we we'd go through that but that's that you know yeah I mean unless you unless you've got one of those thousand industrial ones that hooks up to your TAP you always

have to refill it with water exactly if you're making an instant coffee you got to fill it with water every time you want to [ __ ] drink one yeah we have a we have a espresso machine that we brought from Australia so we use that sometimes but mostly I just use a French press cuz it's yeah me too yeah quick and easy yeah that's my morning ritual for sure is my my plunger but is super lazy I would yeah I would like to be lazy that would be great it is quite lazy to use a French press it doesn't take a especially if I could just request I'm not I'm not patient enough for it especially if I could just request that she makes it for me yeah you just request it and then you walk out and it's there no I'm pointing at she whose name I

won't say because she's listening oh always listening Alexa make me coffee see I I I can't do it because mine will do it I wish I I wish mine would oh that's great I'm going to look into that or at least options I didn't know that I didn't know that was a thing it's not as wide as I there's not as many as I thought there would be m H this is the only real one that I saw that just works easily isn't there one of other smart coffees work with like just your phone but I wanted something where I could just talk talk isn't there one of these in the first scene of Back to the Future where you see do brown house has all these gadgets that he's made to make him a piece of toast and a

cup of coffee and feed his dog and all that maybe yeah in the morning a Mr Coffee yeah you call this a radar no sir we call this Mr Coffee God oh now I want watch space BS yeah it holds up in a weird way if you want to feel old which I'm sure you probably don't need my help to feel old these days I feel old all the time uh Dia 2 is 20 this week it's been 20 years since Diablo 2 came out yeah it has mhm 20 [ __ ] years still a great game yeah if you want to give your mouse a workout for sure mhm I don't know if my wrist could handle it anymore oh too

much information no you're right though you know once once they had CU I played through that a couple of times and and once they had all those expansions where they added in a whole other land and you had to get runes and all of that stuff it be became a bit of a pain in the ass it became kind of more trouble than it was worth but I'd be interested in go back and click around on the original Diablo I at some stage for for Old Time sake I doubt I I reckon you'd start it but there you wouldn't finish it yeah I reckon too there's no way because actually it it can be quite challenging and we were obsessed with that I remember all of us were playing it at the same time too because oh yeah there weren't that many games out at

that point and uh I've never played it I had to buy a 20 gig hard drive to to play it I got it I was when I worked at Gateway um with Dave when this came out and I had to get a 20 gig hard drive bought it through a guy at work got me a good deal on it because they were [ __ ] expensive yeah yeah wasn't like your first hard drive like 2.1 gig that was yeah that was your starting hard drive before that you used to store it on discs mate when I when I bought my first Mac I paid like an extra Grand to upgrade from the 4 gig hard drive to the 10 gig hard drive and I was like 10 gig I will never fill this I think our first computer we had a 486 dx33 and I think the hard drive was 200 megabytes mhm Y which is 486 DX with eight Meg of

RAM and mine had four oh [ __ ] yeah it was the weird in betweeny model everyone listening to us you were all spoiled did you did you say you had the SX or the DX dx33 dx33 d266 33 yeah yeah yeah we lost a lot of people just now mate I remember when we got that computer I was so I was so excited that would have been a wonderful computer when it came out though oh yeah man I could play Space Quest 5 I could play uh yeah all that [ __ ] you could play Rise of fade of Atlantis yeah I listen to Grant Atlantis on amig uh oh yeah and it came on 13 floppy discs and we tried to play that we ended up I think he ended up taking it back because it was unplayable like

you would you would go Okay click on this and then it would just load and then it would say enter dis eight and you'd put that in and it would load and then it would be like no you can't grab that thing your original disc I would like to mention you just talking about old games uh if if coincidentally anybody who worked at the games wizard in penth is listening [ __ ] you I had an Atari Links I went into uh I read in a magazine or I read somewhere that they were making eye of the beholder the D and D game for the Atari Links and I went into the games was they laughed at me and they said that game's not going to come out in the atti links you fool and they laughed at

me [ __ ] Google eye of the beholder Atari Links it [ __ ] exists you can get it now in an emulator they were going to release it and it got cancelled not only that not only that but if uh if you want to get it Matt uh I can Waltz in there even to this day and I can get a 10% discount because I bought a lifetime membership good lifetime are they still notice the gay Wizards though oh God no God no the gamesman is still around Gam story yeah I think game moved to game years ago I ordered two game boys original game boys off eBay because I wanted to use them to make some make music yeah yeah wanted them for a project and then when they showed up the invoice in the Box had the [ __ ]

gamesman logo with the two guys little heads and I was like what the [ __ ] I still buy stuff from them yeah well every now and again I'll get something in my head where I go I want that game and and they're there and they've got it I recently wanted a Final Fantasy game for the DS there's one where you play and it's just it's basically a rhythm game where it plays the music from the Final Fantasy games oh yeah I've heard of that yeah and I've been trying to find it for ages and they had a copy and I went I'm going to buy that I it arrives do they have a store yeah they've got a physical store but I think they're more so online these days still in hereville yeah same place that's wonderful where I got my chair from that chair you're in

no not this chair I had a catalog from the games wizard that I would just I would read it every day yeah yep games yeah one day now you can play all of them Danny all of them yeah yeah any one of them most of them weren't very good yeah that's right they're awful and unplayable yeah yeah I tried to play uh did I talk about this already I tried to play Freddy farcus pharmacist [ __ ] that because there's a time limit I already talk about this oh no I don't think you did but yeah so I I remember fondly remember that game except I started to play it and then you've got to you mix up the the the drugs for the customers who come in it's

like sorry listeners who don't know Freddy farcus Frontier pharmacist is a Sierra Adventure game where you play as a pharmacist in the in the old west mhm and then split chapters and the first chapter after you get through the intro is that the horses are all fighting too much and everyone's going to die because too much methane so you have to come up with a solution to stop the horses from fighting but there's a time limit on it and then if you don't do thing quick enough you die and then you have to start the chapter again and I was like you know what no no I'm not playing this kind of game anymore see that was the worst thing about the original Fallout was time there was that time limit to get the water once you got that water ship sorted you didn't have to

worry about time limit and it was great but there was so many times I've had to restart that game because I screwed up yeah got distracted by something and took too long I don't mind in games where like even like a recent example um thex human revolution has a time limit in it at one point where if you take too long hostages will die mhm and the game kind of tells you you know get messages saying oh you need to hurry up those hostages are at risk or whatever that kind of stuff is fine cuz it sucks if you screw that up but you didn't lose the [ __ ] game whereas this just man because it didn't tell me there was a time limit and i' forgot it's been 30 years since I played the [ __ ] thing so as soon as I died it said oh you didn't do it fast enough

I was like alt F goodbye not playing that game anymore Nostalgia complete yeah fix gotten not as good as I remembered no nothing is good but it's also not as funny as I remembered either you were a child yeah F jokes were funnier yeah there's your Suit Larry a lot of homophobic humor in there a lot of homophobic humor yeah a lot of lot of really sexist plot points in there too yep yep product the time perhaps and they were flogging that horse long after it had died too there are so many leasure Suit Larry games I think there was like one on the Xbox 360 I think was one of the last ones which really wasn't that long ago for that type of

game yeah they did a Kickstarter for one oh really mhm yeah not that long ago just the the fact that you had to do a test to prove you were an adult to play that game just made us want to play it so [ __ ] bad which sucky thing was it was American question so it was really hard yeah who's who's the president right now I don't [ __ ] know who the president of America is but you could skip it there was a key command to skip it if you had and everybody just learned that eventually it's quite funny how even back then without the internet that kind of stuff got around like to to me to me and Cade in wtia trying to play leg Suit Larry as children somehow we knew that that there was a key command you could use to skip the question but I

remember when games were like [ __ ] you for pirating now the game comes with this [ __ ] cardboard disc within a disc within a slide it around and I had one I forget what game it was but it was black on black so you couldn't even photocopy it and you you had to tilt it into the light right to even see the print on it and now copy protection just uh computer up instead yeah that's all for this week thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show if you enjoyed it then please subscribe and iTunes to receive episodes automatically we'll see you next time