Naked on the Beach: Commodore Flip Phone, Elder Scrolls 6 & Xbox Layoffs

Multiple nerdgasm. >> Hi. >> Hello. So, just before we started, I haven't told Alyssa yet, I challenge you to see if you can work out what I'm doing this episode. >> Okay. Yeah, I don't know what that means. Um >> no hints, no nothing. >> Yeah. He's literally just told me again the same thing he told me before. So, let's see if I can figure out what he's doing. >> Yeah. I don't know I don't know when I'm going to do it. I may be doing it now. I may be doing it later. We'll find out. >> You don't even know. [ __ ] hell. >> I don't even know when I'm going to do it. I'm going to keep it a secret. I'm going to keep it a secret from myself. >> Good lord. Is that it? Was that it? Opening it drink >> This is not a secret.

>> What is that? >> first one of the day. It's just a Vodka Cruiser double. >> Vodka Cruiser double. It's just a just a double. >> Just a double. >> It's your first of the day. >> My first of the day, yes. I decided to do a little bit different to last week's episode. >> [laughter] >> Oh, last week's episode I thought it was pretty good. So, I I mean >> But yeah, when you drink >> Not not I'm encouraging you to get [ __ ] plastered beforehand, but >> But though, when you're drinking it can go it can go one of two ways. It could be really good or >> Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. There is an episode out there somewhere that I'm not sure I think I don't know if it's on there, but there was an episode where I drank a bottle of port.

I don't know if you remember this. >> [laughter] >> [ __ ] Yeah. >> You got I I was like >> The next day I was like, "I'm [ __ ] I'm sorry, guys." >> [laughter] [gasps] >> We've all had those episodes. Me probably more than others. That's why [laughter] you've got to find that right level. And sometimes that's hard. >> Yeah. >> Especially start drinking early. >> Yeah. Yeah. You watched a lot of movies last week. Did you watch any movies at the movies this week? >> I've watched no movies at the movies this week. >> All right, taking a week off. >> Zero. Taking a week off. But next week I will. >> I also have not seen a movie at the movies. I've been told that I should see [ __ ] What have I got What was I told to see? I was told to see everything, but

Oh, it's a Disclosure Day. Nate told me, "Yes, go see Disclosure Day." I hadn't heard your review yet. >> [laughter] >> I told him I think Oh, I think I said Yeah, you also said I should. Even though you didn't particularly give a [ __ ] about it. >> No, I'm never going to watch it again, but >> Yeah. So, I want to do that. Uh I've been playing a video game this week, though. >> I I saw this. What made you go into this? Cuz I've never played this game. I've seen YouTubers play it and I find it quite amusing the way they play. >> Yeah, I watch a lot of people play Rust. I don't know why. It's I watch Willjum in particular. I just every Willjum video I watch and I find it very interesting.

Uh >> Rust they go on wipe day and start with nothing and >> Yep. >> play. >> Uh and then they play solo, too. Like Willjum plays solo and I learned in Tokyo and a couple others that I that I follow. They play solo, which is quite difficult in Rust. Rust Those who don't know, Rust is like it's online only. >> Yes. >> like you you start the game literally naked on the beach with a rock. All you've got is a rock and a torch. And you have to collect resources and learn how to make things and eventually everybody has guns and helicopters and stuff, but you have to build them. All that. >> You got to build up to that and build up to like the furnace and then the different resources >> metal and all this kind of stuff. >> Yep.

>> And then you're on a big island. And then basically the premise is that on everything is just trying to kill you. And you just have to survive and the wipe Wipe means how long it is before the server gets a completely reset. Everything is temporary, right? It's basically like like a a month-long game of paintball. If it's a month some are 7 days some are whatever. It's whatever the server is. After a certain period of time that's it. >> Yep, and you start again. >> Yep, and you just you just have to try and survive and have fun. >> have to keep logging in because your stuff will deteriorate quite quickly. >> And you'll get raided. Like if you build a base, people will come and take your [ __ ] >> Cuz the servers are 24 hours. Like it's

not like you just I'm going to log off, go to work, come back, everything will be fine. No, you can log off, go to work, come back, and everything is gone. >> Yeah. So, I've seen I've watched a lot of people play this. I don't know why. It's I think it's for some reason it makes for particularly compelling YouTube content. I like I don't know what it is. >> But how is it actually playing it? >> So, okay, I was like it's it was on it's on sale. I don't know if it's on sale. It it was on sale. It's been on my wish list for ages cuz I was like it looks fun. It well, watching people play is fun. I don't know if I'll have fun playing it, so I don't want to pay full price for it because yeah. So, I I bought it. I was like [ __ ] it. I'm going to give it a try. So, I loaded it up and I've only ever

watched these people. I said Wilburgur in particular plays on the big high count how to play account like serious clan servers with like serious [ __ ] hardcore Rust players. >> People who are going in know how to play the game. >> Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, uh only ever seen it and it's brutal. Like if you see somebody, you [ __ ] murder them and you steal >> Right. >> But I was I'm looking at the server list and they've got softcore servers, which is kind of like when you die, you don't lose all your stuff. You >> Like that. >> Some of it. I don't know exactly what the >> But it's good for new players type of thing. >> That's the idea. That's what I thought. I thought I was just like a little bit less harsh on that kind of stuff. All right, so I joined >> Mhm.

>> the the number one like the the the official number one softcore Rust server, right? I'm like, "Okay, great." So, >> You were instantly murdered? >> I mean, no. >> [laughter] >> No. I got in the game. I'm there I'm naked on the beach with a rock, right? And I'm like, "Okay, I kind of know what to do, but not really because they skip over a lot of that early stuff because it's not interesting." >> Yeah, so >> They like do a montage of them like collecting resources and stuff. I'm like, "I don't actually know what I'm supposed to do." >> and what builds what or how to build that early game stuff. >> Yeah, no idea. So, I'm like, "Okay, [ __ ] I got to figure this out." So, I'm running around and like hitting my rock on stuff to try and collect things. >> Yeah.

>> And then I see another person. And I'm like, "Okay, well, I know what to do." >> [laughter] >> I run over and I start beating this person to death with a rock. And I'm like [ __ ] smacking him and he he starts running away. And I'm like, "Get back here, you [ __ ] So, [laughter] I beat this guy to death with a rock. And I and I check his inventory. He's got a bunch of stuff, like a bunch of rocks and rock and wood and all this stuff. I take it all. And then I So, then I'm like running off and then I get a message from this person that says, "Dude, why?" >> [laughter] >> I was like, "Oh, it's supposed to be different? Like, am I not supposed to >> [laughter] >> Is it softcore as in you don't attack anyone and everyone just builds and

>> I don't know. He was very He was He was like, "Dude, I wasn't going to [ __ ] with you. Why? Why did you do that? >> [laughter] >> I was trying to get away." [ __ ] So, So, I just was like, "Oh, [ __ ] hell." And then I So, I ran off and into the jungle as you do. Escape the crocodile. And then uh and then this I'm So, I'm collecting stuff in the jungle and I'm like, "Okay, I'm trying to get the hang of this." And then some [ __ ] dude in full armor with a gun jumps out and then on the like on his cuz you can hold down V to like talk in game and I guess everybody does this. I didn't know this, but if you're going to play, apparently you're supposed to have a mic and headset so you can do this. >> Yep. >> He jumps out and he goes on the mic, he goes, "Put your [ __ ] hands up. What

do you [laughter] got?" So I'm like just froze. And he and he goes, "What have you got?" And I said, [laughter] I'm like I'm in the game I'm just going And then he goes, "Hold V. Hold V, dead." >> [laughter] >> I don't like it at the moment. And um so he shot me in the head. >> Yep. >> And so you get into like when you get shot you get into like wounded state where you can be healed. >> Mhm. >> But when you're wounded you can be looted. And so he shot me and I guess checked my inventory and felt bad so he healed me. >> [laughter] >> And then he threw a cleaver on the ground and he said, "Take that." >> [laughter] >> And he ran off. >> [snorts] >> And I honestly I was like this is [ __ ] great. So

>> Oh, I love that. So your first encounter you just murdered this person for no reason. >> man to death with a rock. >> Rock. >> And he [laughter] as he was screamed, And then things >> Then you get shot and then that person actually went, "Oh, you've got nothing. You you're not doing well. Brought you back to life and here's a weapon." >> it was pretty obvious that I was a noob and he was like, "Here, take a weapon and [ __ ] off." [laughter] Uh and then uh I managed to build a sleeping bag uh which is where you can like respawn. Cuz if you Okay, if you die, you go back to a random spot on the beach at the edge and you don't really want to be there like for building a base or whatever. You want to get resources and get further in.

And so you have to put a sleeping bag down and then you can respawn at your sleeping bag. So, I managed to do that. Somebody else shot me, I died, and then uh I don't know. I think I played for a couple hours, and then I was like, "Okay, I'm going to just get in the hang of it. I'm not getting too attached. I haven't built anything." Like, you can build a base and all that. I haven't done any of that, but >> Yeah, I just think I'd get I'm frust- I don't know. I think I'd get too frustrated with this game too quickly. >> that, but I think the fact that it's temporary, like, I know that going in. I know what it is. I'm not like that. I've got no >> Yeah. >> illusions about how good I'm going to be or anything. I was just like, "I'm just going to goof around and have fun. Whatever." >> Yeah. And I can actually Now now you've

explained it that way, like, yeah, you can get to a point where you go, "Oh, well, yeah, this this particular wipe has not gone well. I'm just going to give up on it." Cuz >> Yeah, I'm just going to go grief some people or >> Yeah. >> uh door camp or whatever, which is door camping is when you just wait outside somebody's door, and when they open the door, you shoot them in the face, you run in and steal all of their stuff. >> [laughter] >> And that's why you have to build an airlock under your base. >> Yeah. >> There's a tip for you. >> Yeah. Or you could just pick on a small child and beat them to death with a rock. >> Beat them to [laughter] death with a rock. >> To take nothing. >> So, anyway, that's Rust. >> Yeah. >> It's fun. It is

>> This is one of those games that sort of it's been around like forever. It's sort of I think it's gotten bigger now than it did at the start. It's sort of >> Yeah. >> Or it's grown and stayed with it. >> I think it was like clunkier and stuff at the start. Like, now there's a there's a lot to do in it. Like, they've got like um they added the you can build [ __ ] big ships now and go out into the deep sea. They've added like >> Oh, oh god. Wow. >> Yeah, they've added tons of stuff to it. And like And it's also it's got areas of the map uh they call them monuments. And there's stuff like there's a military base, uh a [ __ ] oil rig, uh an Arctic station, and they're basically like um like dungeons, I guess, in a in a in a

MMORPG. Um where you've got like um is that the thing? You're doing the thing? >> No, I wasn't doing anything. My phone just vibrated and I just put it turned it off vibrate. >> Okay. Uh yeah, there's there's puzzles. You got to collect like key cards to open doors and stuff like that. So, there's like these little kind of puzzle puzzly things and stuff that you can do and it's I don't know, it's it's good, man. It's fun. >> Not for everyone, but I think that I >> I've watched so many people play it uh cuz I think it just I don't know, it makes for good content because it just is so brutal. Like and it's almost like it's just a survival thing. >> Yeah. And you have a you do have a wide range of people still playing. You got like small children and then adults. It's

>> I don't know that he was a child. He may have just been a >> [laughter] >> sad man. >> No, I'm going to he was like a 10-year-old beat to death with a rock and stole his stuff. Speaking of the code Oh, yeah. That's what I reckon. If you'd have gone and cried like that >> [laughter] >> like you can take all that back. >> That was a kid. Oh, one thing that's interesting about it, I didn't know this. >> Mhm. >> Um cuz I was like, how do you change what you look like? You can't. It's random. >> That's yeah. >> And it's linked to your Steam account. So, if you want to look different, you've got to buy the game again on a different Steam account. I didn't know that. I was like cuz I looked at I'm just I'm a woman and I was like, okay, how do I change my appearance? Can't. You don't.

>> No, that was what I remember that when it sort of first came out, it was just going to be no, you get into this world completely random. That's it. Like whatever you come in as, that's that's you. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I've got set I play most games as a woman, so I'd be okay with that. >> Uh yeah, I wasn't I was just curious how to adjust things. I didn't even think about it. You don't really see what you look like very often anyway. It's everyone else's problem, but um yeah. Anyway, enough of that. That's Rust. Uh if anyone wants to play Rust with me, let me know. >> I probably won't. Although, how much is it on sale for? Actually, I probably own it. >> You probably do, knowing you. It was 20 bucks [clears throat] here. I think it's

normally like 40 or 50. It was 20 bucks here. >> I need to go through my Humble Bundle subscription and see what games and codes I have. I've got hundreds. >> Yeah. >> Of codes, codes, let alone games. I've got 1,000 games on Steam. >> Yeah. What do I got these days? I've stopped I stopped buying it for a long time. I've started again, actually. I've gone I've become more of a a a I guess a PC gamer again, cuz I've got GeForce Now. I haven't played my Xbox ages. >> Well, even with the Steam sales, I remember I think I just got over them a little bit. The Steam sales used to be great. You go and you buy all these games. And then I just think it's just the same games that are on sale every time. It doesn't really feel like it changes anymore now. They've got a new gimmick every time, but

>> I've got 641 games. >> Wow. How many have you played? >> I don't know how to tell. >> I don't know if you if you can. >> Yeah. Actually, [clears throat] some of these, I guess, to be fair, are not different games. There's like, you know, they have like the game and then they have like the the server for the game and then the the dev kit and all that. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, some of them it's the same stuff, but >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's all right. >> So, okay. We've got So, I've got quite a lot of Xbox news. >> Yes, cuz we did have the State of Play No, that was the That was the PlayStation one. This was the Summer Game Fest, was it? >> Yes, I think so. Yes.

So, do you want But, there's also a lot of other stuff. Uh >> Yes. Well, there's a lot. Probably the big one probably to start with is their big reset that they've got coming up, which is >> Mhm. >> a bit crazy and something they also said they weren't going to do. That was wasn't that part of their negotiation with buying like >> all the game companies >> Like yeah, they bought Activision and everybody. Yeah, they went look but we're not going to lay anyone off and all this stuff. It's And now >> Well, I mean they got a new head of Xbox. Uh she's you know, she What one of the things Penny Arcade did a comic about it is that it started out coming out and saying a bunch of stuff that we all wanted to hear, which is

like it's too expensive now. We're like, "Yeah." We're We're going to make another console. Yeah. Yeah. And like saying all this stuff that's like like, "Yeah, we'll be listening to you guys." Everybody's like, "Yeah." And then And then she's like, "Yeah, also uh you're all fired." >> Yeah. >> Uh oh, okay. >> And I still say like a lot of that stuff that she came out with at the start is probably stuff that they'd sat on >> Yes. >> waiting for her to take over as a Look, let's make this transition nice and sort of give people what they've been asking for but that's not going to work for us. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> One of the things she has come out and said though is she wants Bethesda to hurry up on Elder Scrolls and >> [laughter] >> and Fallout.

>> I'm sure I'm sure. >> [clears throat] >> And I think I think that's fair. >> I mean, if they're going to do exclusives, they'd be good ones to do. >> And you need to them to release if you're going to make money off them. They're going to be your big things. You need them out. But like Elder Scrolls 6, what When was the last time we heard about that? We heard about it >> It's been [ __ ] ages. Like they showed that trailer. Uh did they show another trailer recently? I don't think so. >> think they've shown another They've shown that initial hype yep, it's coming. Yeah, that was >> but that was like 10 years ago. I might be exaggerating slightly. >> two or three more versions of Skyrim since then. >> Yeah. Um

they can Okay. So, the word on it is it's coming along great, but like what does that mean? It's still like years away. Okay, here we go. Tentatively 2028. Uh okay, sorry. Wait. In 2023, Phil Spencer said it was at least 5 years away. Ten which would be tentatively 2028. So, that's still like 2 years away. >> Yeah. And we're still not And it's just too long for games. I don't What is taking so long? >> Yeah. There's been no Elder Scrolls game [clears throat] like no proper Elder Scrolls game this generation of console. >> Yeah. >> The last one was just Xbox. >> Yep. And it sounds like there isn't going to be one this generation either. >> Yeah. It's going to be uh on Helix or whatever it is. PlayStation 6 and Helix. Mhm. >> And the same for Fallout.

>> They're going to fire them all. Yeah, there's no Yeah, Fallout 4 uh that's [ __ ] ages ago. >> Yeah. >> Um so Yeah, so so they're doing a big reset. They're like laying off uh a lot of stuff from a lot of the um studios. They're shutting down Ninja Theory, which is like a a studio that they bought at some point. >> I actually I quite liked the Hellblade series they were putting out. They've I think >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that That was actually I enjoyed those games. >> Oh, those games? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, they were cool. I played the first one. That was cool. Yeah, that sucks. Uh they didn't did Ninja Theory do um What's it? Ninja Gaiden? The >> They might have and that I I know Ninja Gaiden I did not play. That was That's

not for me. That's Yeah. Is it Ninja Gaiden I'm thinking of? Maybe not. Uh I think maybe I'm thinking >> I think it's just cuz you're hearing Ninja. >> Team Ninja. Yeah, no, it's definitely not them. All right, cool. Um Yeah, so I don't know. It's just Uh oh, the uh the head of um Xbox Game Studios has resigned. Um because uh I guess because of this, I guess. Uh he was there for less than 2 years. Um and I mean, it doesn't say why. Oh, hang on. Here we go. >> [groaning] >> I don't know. >> [laughter] >> I think he just doesn't want to have to go and fire people. >> They they're implying that it was because of this, but uh it I guess it isn't

isn't 100% clear. >> But it's just so weird. Like you take away the Activision stuff. Like they made a big point like only a few years ago of like going out and buying all these studios. >> Yeah. >> And now it's now we're going to get rid of them all. >> Well, I wonder if she's [snorts] coming and realized this Well, we're not making any money. Like Yeah, I don't know. >> I don't know. You need to They need to release games. That's the >> Yeah, you would think so. Yeah. >> Actually >> Uh Compulsion Games and Double Fine are negotiating the chance to go independent. >> Okay. I I mean, okay, going independent I think it's a little bit different. Now's the time to sort of jump in to do that. >> Yeah, don't shut them down cuz they're Well, they're going to shut them down if

they if they don't do that, I guess. >> Mhm. >> Uh >> But I've always felt felt that quite hard to understand how that works. Like we own you, but we will let you take over and still continue as a company. Where's that money transfer happen there? Like I've never understood that. >> Well, they're going to shut them down anyway. It's like you might as well. >> Yeah, but they they >> Like why not let them all do that? >> Why are they shutting him down? Well, cuz they want to hold on to their IPs all of the time. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. And maybe some of the stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay, that's fair. They don't want uh [ __ ] what's his name? Double Fine. I can't remember his name. >> Schafer. >> Schafer, Tim Schafer. Yeah. Uh

>> He'll find a job somewhere. Yeah. Hopefully he's just running Double Fine as he is. >> He'll create one for himself. He's like, yeah, he's fine. He'll be fine. Um Yeah, so I don't know. This is all mixed bag really, I guess now for Xbox. Like the the big picture stuff for us has been good, but yeah, this this stuff's not good. >> No, but yeah, just I do hurry. They need to I don't know what's happened with games taking so long to make now. >> [laughter] >> There's been a big shift. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like they were able to release GTA 3, San Andreas, Vice City, 4, and 5 in the time it's made it taken them to make 6. Like, what's happening now? >> Well, they're more complicated. People

demand more from them, I guess. And like look at Let me just look at the world, the game world, and everything. It's so much much more complicated. Like >> I don't know. It just seems like a lot longer. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> a good chance It's a good The way it's going, we will never get to play Elder Scrolls 7. >> No, we'll be dead. >> going to take 30 years to make. >> [laughter] >> We'll be uh the Skyrim grandma playing Elder Scrolls 7. If we're if we're around. Um yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean. And then the uh they're not getting cheaper. So >> No. >> Um Although we've talked about this. Technically they're not getting more expensive either, although they are slightly now. People are complaining about it. >> They are complaining, but I've also been

saying for a long time that they shouldn't have been. >> Yeah. Inflation-wise they've never been cheaper. >> Yeah. >> Um >> some of the I think we need need more double A games at that midpoint that are >> Yeah. >> Like the RoboCop games and the Terminator games. Like I find them that midpoint. Like they don't take as long to make. They're not >> Mhm. >> the greatest game ever, but they're not they're fun and they're at a cheaper price point. We need more of that level, I think. >> Yeah, right. >> Instead of just indie or triple A. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But what do I know? I just buy them all. >> Yeah, you buy everything. Don't listen to him. Luke will buy whatever you put out. Uh another interesting Xbox-related thing. Um

They announced that new Gears of War game that I didn't think looked particularly good, but people were just but enjoying it. I don't know what you think of it. >> I'm actually Are you talking about the um Emergence Day one, E-Day coming out? >> yeah. >> I'm actually quite scared about this one because they've actually said this is the longest um story that they've ever had for a Gears of War game. >> Mhm. >> And I felt because I've played them all and some of them they feel like they've gone on far too long. >> Yeah, sure. >> And then they're saying this one's even longer. I'm a bit scared about that. >> Yeah, I don't know. It just didn't look I mean, looked like Gears of War, but I don't know. The map that they showed

or I I I didn't watch the whole thing. There was like a whole presentation about it, but the bits that I saw of it I was like, "Ah, it doesn't look very interesting to me." >> Mhm. >> Uh but I guess maybe I'm not the target audience. That's fine. Uh but the interesting thing about it is that it is a Xbox exclusive now, but they had previously uh had artwork and stuff done that had the PlayStation logo on it. And so everybody was like, "Hang on a minute. >> [laughter] >> When did that happen?" >> Yeah, and I think Sony's actually now a little bit upset with Xbox about this cuz they've gone back on this. I think at their state of play they were meant to have like a Halo gameplay and stuff and at the last minute Sony sort of went PlayStation went Xbox went, "No, you

can't have that. We're not going to show that now." And they're just starting to backtrack on some of the stuff they're showing. >> There's a new Halo game, too, right? >> There's Halo Combat Evolved just remastered in Unreal. >> Yeah, yeah. But isn't there another one that's like Or is it that Halo Combat Evolved has got >> It's got new missions. >> Okay, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. >> You're playing as Sergeant Johnson for the first three missions, yes. Yeah. >> [snorts] >> Interesting. Just a remake of Halo. Otherwise. >> Yeah, it's a remake of Halo apart from three three missions that you sort of a bit of a prequel. >> All right. >> But that's >> I don't know. >> We get that. But I I think it's also we get to a point of

year when no one wants to release anything big. With I think we were coming up with a lot of good games coming out but now everyone's too afraid of Grand Theft Auto. >> Speaking of, some [clears throat] fun news for people who own GTA V on older consoles, PS4 and Xbox One, they've put out free upgrades to the current generation. >> Which is sort of weird. Like has this been something they've been sitting on or have they been actively working on it? Cuz I thought the stuff that was >> Well, isn't there already versions of GTA V for those consoles? Is this just a case of there or am I misunderstanding this? That that these games were only on PS4 and Xbox One and now they've released Xbox Series

X and PlayStation 5 versions or >> No. >> did they just give people a free upgrade? >> They're giving people a free upgrade cuz there was a point where they went with the older consoles like we're not giving you upgrades anymore. Like we're just going to focus on the newer consoles. So >> Okay. So there was already a like an Xbox Series X version of GTA 5. Okay. >> Yeah. >> You would have had to buy it. >> Yes. >> Right. >> So they were focusing on that and then the older versions just weren't getting any new content. >> Okay. >> And now they're saying, "Hey, no. We're going to give you all those upgrades." Which I thought the reason why they stopped doing it was because the older consoles couldn't maybe handle it or but evidently it

could and they just want people to play the game again. >> I But like this doesn't work on the old console. It's just if you have if you bought the game on the old console, you now get the version for the upgrade for the Series X. You know what I'm saying? >> Oh, I thought they were upgrading they were giving you a Oh. >> No, no, no. I'm saying if you own GTA if you have an Xbox Series X but you bought GTA 6 on the Xbox One and you only have that version, they're saying you can have the nice version. >> Okay. No. >> Which you would have had to pay for previously. >> Yeah. I I thought they were cuz I know there was a point where they stopped doing upgrades and stuff for Grand Theft Auto live and stuff and I thought they were

here's here you can have all the upgrades that you missed on the old console. >> No, I don't think so. >> Okay. That's actually quite nice. >> It is, yeah. Uh it's I guess do they want people playing 5 to get hyped up for 6? Maybe that's what it is. They're trying to build up >> so but everyone's already The people who are playing 5 are already playing 5. >> That's what I mean. Yeah. What hype do you need? You've >> Yeah. >> It's like the most hyped game ever. >> Yeah. This is what I'm going to be very interested to see their uh marketing strategy because I keep saying they do not need it. >> No, but you know. >> All they need to do is what done. They've released some trailers which are some of fastest watch trailers ever. >> Yeah. >> And then they need to give a release

date. Their marketing work's done. And then everyone will just talk about it. >> Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. >> So with wasn't it with GTA V like they said they spent hundreds of millions of dollars on marketing for that? >> Probably. Yeah. Yeah, cuz of billboards everywhere. >> Everywhere. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> We'll find We'll see. We've only got what? July, August, September, October. What? 5 months to go. >> I don't care. >> I'm looking forward to it. >> Uh it just doesn't interest me. I'm not going to I'm not going to play it. >> I'm excited. >> I'll play it. >> I tried to play GTA V. Didn't like it. >> game. I don't Yeah, I >> I don't like it. It bores me. I don't know why. It's boring. >> I don't know. I've played through it like five times. >> Really?

>> Mhm. It gets boring on the fifth time. I'll tell you that. >> [laughter] >> It gets boring five minutes into the first time. I don't know what I don't know what it is, man. It just doesn't interest me in the slightest. I can't explain it. >> What What is coming out? >> Clearly I'm wrong cuz everybody loves this stuff, but I just I don't care. I don't know. >> There's got to be some good games coming out soon, though. Well, they're starting to see a lot more slop coming out. >> Yeah. >> Which I buy them all, but >> All the asset flips. >> Yeah. >> I was talking to my friend the other day. He was describing a game he was playing, and I'm like, "That sounds like a [ __ ] asset flip to me." >> [laughter]

>> It was a dig a hole. Have you played Dig a Hole? >> Oh, I love that game. >> Yeah, okay. Yeah, my friend Jimmy was talking about Dig a Hole, and I was like, "That doesn't sound like a real game." >> [laughter] >> But But then as he went on I was like, "Oh, okay. There is like upgrade mechanics and stuff apparently." >> Yep. I I finished that. 100% of it. >> Yeah. And you loved it you said. >> I enjoyed it. There was a cheat for it though which >> You walked that back slightly there. But, okay. There's a cheat for it? >> There's a cheat for it. So, the whole thing is about you dig the hole, you get it all, you sell the all, you upgrade your gear, you dig more, and you got to get to the bottom. Well, there's a certain tile in the game

which if you hit that tile, it gives you like a thousand or ten thousand dollars every time you hit that tile. So, you can just get all the money up front. Buy all the and then you can fly through the game quite quickly. >> Right. All right. >> I did that. >> [laughter] >> It's not cheating though cuz the game lets you do it. That's fine. >> Game lets you do it. They put the They put it in. I just used it. There is one game coming out soon that I'm looking forward to. >> Go on. >> And it's got July is Assassin's Creed Black Flag. >> Oh. Uh and I've played that game. I got an advanced copy 10 years ago. >> [laughter] >> This one might look a little bit different. >> Oh, really? Okay. Uh no, I remember that being very good.

So, uh and and apparently this version of it is excellent. So, I'm interested in that. >> I really enjoyed the sailing. >> Yeah. >> Just the sailing. >> Uh favorite is still uh Odyssey. But, they won't remake that cuz it's not it's not quite long enough. >> Uh have you done all the DLC for it? >> Uh I've done >> of it but it's mostly gets into the supernatural stuff. >> Yeah, I did I did I've done the Cyclops. I've done Medusa. I've done um I think I've done most of that stuff, yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, cuz yeah, it's not yeah, the while it is DLC for it and it is in the game it's >> Oh, yeah. Cuz the main story line is just about your brother or your sister if you play

as Alexios. I don't know why you would though. Uh if you play correctly as Cassandra it's about finding him. Uh right? That's the main plot. And then or Uh but yeah, you're right. The supernatural stuff and the stuff with like Pythagoras and all that DLC. >> That's more of a side quest in the main game. That's more of a side quest in the main game, yeah. >> I did it all at once so it was kind of like hard to tell what was DLC and what wasn't. >> Yeah. >> It's a good game. >> Yeah. Well, the closest you're going to get to a re-release of anything you soon is Black Flag. >> Yeah, okay. I'll check it out. >> We'll play that. >> Pirates. >> Nothing wrong with pirates. >> No. No, I we got some pirate news.

>> We've got pirate news? >> Yeah. >> Pirate news. >> Uh this is apparently an exclusive by Collider this week. Hugh Jackman is starring in Ridley Scott's new adaptation of Treasure Island. Ridley Scott's doing Treasure Island. Uh >> Okay. >> Uh Ridley Scott, I don't know, man. >> Ridley Scott doing Treasure Island? >> Yeah. I mean, this is Ridley Scott is I guess I should still say one of my favorite directors. Although lately it's just like, [ __ ] man. Like hit or miss. >> Yeah, and I just I don't know. I just >> This could be really excellent or it could be one of his duds. >> I'm going to head towards one of his

duds, honestly, cuz this does not really feel like a movie he would make. >> I mean, maybe that's good. >> Like it's definitely not in his wheelhouse when you look at what he's done ever. >> That's fair. I mean, Hugh Jackman said, "I got the script written by Jack Thorne who did Adolescence, which is that TV series everybody loved with that kid. I've never read Treasure Island. I'd never seen Treasure Island. I'd heard of Long John Silver, but I really didn't know anything. I just read the script and I was like, this is genius." So. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, maybe it's just the fact he's never read the book. He was like, "First of all, I like that's got nothing to do with Ridley Scott. It's just

look, maybe, you know?" So, I don't know. >> All right. Well, we'll we'll wait and see, yeah, I guess. We've got a while to wait. >> Oh, yeah. They're not even making it yet. It's just he's read the script. >> just think Ridley Scott and Hugh Jackman are a strange choice for this. >> Yeah. You think he's going to sing and dance in it? >> If he gets his way. >> He's going to have adamantium claws. >> No, they killed him, remember? >> Yeah, they Well, they they brought him back. >> They did, didn't they? >> Ryan Reynolds brought him back. Everybody hates Ryan Reynolds now. Have we talked about this? >> I've sort of seen Yeah, a lot of people have really just

>> Yeah, how do you feel about him? Can we get a Ryan Reynolds update from Luke? >> I haven't seen him do anything fun lately. The movies that he's made. >> Because I think he's hiding. >> [laughter] >> Because of all this stuff with his wife. Every I I I said I I don't know enough about this to be informed. >> No. >> That's the thing. I just know >> Neither do I. >> She did that movie with that director. >> And then really there's something that happened on that set. >> Yeah, something happened. She accused him of being inappropriate, and then it was a whole big thing, and then they uh the the from what I understand Ryan Reynolds and her, Blake Lively, did this big smear campaign. This is

allegedly, right? Also allegedly and also filtered through me a dummy idiot who doesn't know anything. So don't [laughter] don't sue me, all right? This is what I think happened. They did some smear campaign and everybody just [ __ ] hates them. >> Yep. >> Especially her. >> Every Also I think there was a lawsuit cuz apparently there was a character with they went was a lot like whoever the other guy is and they killed him off in Deadpool and it was meant to be a >> There's a lot of like weird petty stuff, it seems like. >> Yeah. >> And then and then now it's like uh you start start seeing these articles about how everybody's just sick of Ryan Reynolds trying to make everything about him. I think we talked about that briefly a while ago.

>> And then but I'm like, oh that's all coming from this stuff. Anyway, point being >> I used to like it cuz he used to go through he make stuff like stuff that was like direct to Netflix type of >> Sure, like Free Guy Man and all that stuff. >> Free Guy Man. Oh, Free Guy Man wasn't. Free Guy Man was was moved up like Red with The Rock. He done Free Guy Man with The Rock and things like that which were just fun movies which I thought. And then Yeah, I haven't heard anything about from him changing his shirt admitting a goal watching Wrexham. That's the last honestly the last thing I heard about him was yeah, he had a wardrobe change while watching the game and missed a goal. >> What is Ryan Reynolds doing these days? Let's see.

>> Must be up to something. >> Oh. He's doing a sailing adventure series with Hugh Jackman. Not Treasure Island. >> [laughter] >> A sailing uh thing. Uh >> Is it just >> Reynolds and his wife Blake Lively have recently been navigating intense public and legal scrutiny surrounding her legal battles with It Ends With Us director Justin Baldoni. >> Okay. >> Reports suggest the couple has been considering a move to the UK to seek a fresh start and escape the domestic tabloid drama while also being closer to Wrexham. >> I'm just going to point out there to escape tabloid drama, the UK's not the best place to [laughter] be. >> [gasps] >> Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, I know, but like maybe people don't care about him as much over there, you know? >> Yeah.

But yeah, I I I just yeah, I just from my feeling, if I was to look at where where in the world is the worst place for tabloids, I'm going to UK. >> You reckon? >> Yeah. >> That might be true, I don't know. America's pretty bad. But yeah. >> No, no, just in my head, just UK's always been worse. Maybe it's just cuz they killed Di. >> Yeah. Well, that was in Paris, yeah. >> Yeah, but that was all the same. People on motorbikes, paparazzi trying to track him down for that one photo. Just leave people alone. >> Yeah. He's still hung up on Princess Diana. >> [laughter] >> Speaking of the UK, >> Yes. >> We've got some UK computer news. >> Ooh. >> And now, we discussed this briefly during the week. >> Mhm. >> Uh as I think we mentioned previously,

YouTuber Christian What's his name? Uh Perifractic. >> Yeah. >> I can't remember his his surname. Uh he has purchased He's the CEO of Commodore. He purchased Commodore. >> It still just blows my mind. >> [laughter] >> Uh hang on. What's his his name? Uh not that it matters, but Christian Simpson. Bought Commodore. He's the CEO of Commodore now. Uh blew everybody's minds. He's like his YouTube content has stopped cuz I guess he's too [ __ ] busy now. So, like all his YouTube content is based just around Commodore stuff. He used to do all the retro recipes, um retro gaming content, all this kind of stuff. Uh I checked, he hasn't done anything like that in ages. I guess unfortunately just doesn't have time now, which is a shame, cuz I really

liked his YouTube content. Um He uh they released the Commodore 64 Ultimate, which is a version of the Commodore 64 computer that's modern, right? And and everyone get five-star reviews, brilliant, okay? This is the best version of this computer from the '80s that you can get, good stuff, right? But where do you go from there? >> Exactly. >> Right? You can't just keep doing that forever. >> No, because the people who say this is awesome, they've already got it. >> Exactly. Yeah, you bought that now. That's the best Commodore 64. >> Yep. >> What else is Commodore going to do? They don't People keep saying they need to do an Amiga. They don't own the rights to Amiga, right? They need to People just get off their backs about that, right?

He doesn't He can't do that. It's not possible. >> Mhm. >> So, what do you do? >> You make an amazing phone. >> You make a flip phone, apparently. And this has been very contentious. >> What really? I'm all in on this phone. >> Really? Okay, cool. All right, good. I'm glad we could talk about it. So, this phone if you watched Retro Recipes, you would know that Perifractic does not like modern phones. He does not like social media. He thinks we're addicted to our phones. He's got videos about different ways that he's tried to like wean himself off social media and use his phone less than be more present, this kind of thing. It's a big a big thing for him. Like he genuinely seems to really care about it, right? >> Yep. >> So, this phone is, I think,

very on brand. It's very Perifractic. It's a flip phone with no social media. >> Yep. >> Um it's Android. It runs Android. >> Well, well, it says it it'll run 99% of Android apps with all the apps. >> not Android. It's uh it's it's a uh Sailfish, [ __ ] whatever it is. Uh Sailfish OS, which is a third-party OS. You're absolutely right. >> Yep. >> It's not Android. It just runs Android apps. Uh and it's blocks at I guess the operating system level social media and browsers. You can't even It doesn't even have a web browser because, and he was asked about this in the comments >> Mhm. >> on the YouTube video, people People have been very harsh on this. Uh he asked about cuz it He said

browsers are just the back door to do all that stuff again. And the whole point of the the whole point of this the ethos of this phone is no, you can't do any of that stuff. It's got uh um but it It's so one of the problems people have is, right, when you try and go off a modern phone, you go to a flip phone, you can't do things that you need to do. >> Mhm. >> [clears throat] >> Because a lot of stuff now assumes that you will have a phone. >> Yes. >> Like so maps uh banking apps uh you know, uh WhatsApp and and messaging in a lot of countries you have to have something like WhatsApp because they don't have SMSs are still [ __ ] expensive apparently around the world. >> Yeah. >> So this still does that stuff.

>> Right, exactly. >> Yep, everyone. >> Yeah. And like that's how we talk on WhatsApp cuz we're in different countries. All right, and so it it still has that stuff. It just doesn't have like Facebook or or Twitter or any of that kind of thing. Um >> The only thing I need to check is is which I know maybe goes a little bit against the social media I want to see if it's got YouTube cuz that's I still use YouTube. >> it doesn't. >> But I bet it doesn't. >> Yeah. You can do that on your computer. I think that's that's the point is that you should be doing that on your computer perhaps or your TV. >> Well, that's fine. I'll just install Audible. >> Yep. Well, hopefully it still allows you to do that. >> Yep. >> But uh yeah, uh it's interesting. It looks very retro intentionally. >> Mhm.

>> Um and it's it's a Commodore flip phone. >> It's a Yeah, it's a smart dumb phone or a dumb smart phone depending on how you want to look at it. >> Mhm. Um the main issue people have had with this, even if you agree that it's a good idea, is that it's quite expensive. And uh he's pointing out in the comments it's still cheaper than what they would say is the equivalent, which is fair. But I think the problem is people are comparing this to the less capable flip phones. The other ones that you know I said like you get a flip phone that can't do anything. >> Yeah. >> This is not that. This is a flip phone that's very capable. It just has very specific things that that that it's not >> Yeah. >> to do. Like they don't want to >> between the both of them. Like it's not

>> Right. And so this is 500 bucks. Uh I think full price is five for a 549 US. I think it's 590 There's been some confusion. Originally it was 50 bucks off if you pre-ordered, now it's 100. So, I don't know if the price reflects correctly. But it's basically everyone's like it's 500 bucks. >> Yeah. >> And then people have said that's insane for what this is. But I don't know. Like I think they're not going to sell [ __ ] billions of these. So, >> No. >> that price point probably reflects realistic ideas about what it costs to to make versus So, how much they're going to sell like >> Look, this isn't going to compete

against Apple or Google or anything for the market share. Like it's >> No. Uh I don't know. I think this is interesting. I'm like I I mean it's not for me. I don't think. >> I'm thinking about it. >> Yeah? [clears throat] Man, I would love it if you did cuz I would love to know what it's like. >> I think it'd would a great phone to travel with. >> Yeah? >> Yeah. This makes my something I'd buy to travel with. Just it's cuz I'm going to guess the battery life will be better. >> Yes. In particular, it doesn't have 5G or anything. It's got It's only 4G because I think the trade-off was well, you don't need it. Cuz 5G is for like massive content streaming, which is this doesn't do. >> Yeah. >> So, it's got 4G

uh which allows the battery life to be infinitely longer. >> Yep. >> Not infinitely. You know what I mean. I'm being hyperbolic. >> [laughter] >> But, still going to be a lot better than yeah. Yeah. I'm joining the wait list. >> Are you? >> I'm doing it. >> Neat. You know what? I'll do it, too. I want to be supportive. >> What [laughter] is it? >> Here's the code. I'm not going to say what the code is. Don't say the code out loud. >> No. >> That would be hilarious. [laughter] Very practical you watching that made me laugh. >> I can use But, I can use this on the at checkout on the 30th of June for a total of $100 off. >> That's very funny. Um >> Well, I'm seriously considering it

though cuz it's available in Australia. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. I I think they would want it internationally, too. I I think this is an This is clearly a niche product. >> Yes. >> Right, clearly. So, wide availability I think would be necessary cuz again, they have to >> It comes in white, silver, >> Yeah. >> beige, Starlight Edition, or the Founders Edition. The Founders Edition is just gold and >> Yeah, people are comparing it to the Trump phone. >> Yeah. >> Unfortunately. Oh, by the way, >> Mhm. >> the Trump phone came out. Uh let's not mix that in with this. >> We'll >> [laughter] >> We'll come We'll come back to that. >> We'll come back to that. Let's go back to that. Cuz I don't want to I don't

want to associate them in any way. This is not I the Trump phone. >> Well, I'm tossing up between the beige and the starlight edition. I'll probably go to the beige actually. >> Yeah, I think. >> Just that classic >> Yeah, it looks like a Commodore 64. >> Yeah. >> Or 64C. >> Yeah. >> Which is my Commodore 64. >> A prototype. So actually still was quite cool. >> I don't know. There I don't hate this as much as some people in the comments do. I said it's been feedback has been like pretty harsh. >> Um >> And like clearly this isn't for everybody, but I don't know. I feel like it deserves deserves a shot. Like >> Yeah. >> I think it's a cool idea. It's very like when I saw it, I guess because I'm familiar with his content, I was like,

"Oh, okay. This is he made a phone for himself. Like >> Mhm. >> [clears throat] >> And >> Yeah. >> like I feel like that's not a bad idea is like you have you have a specific need. There will be others who have that need or want. Like it's not not a bad idea. >> Well, there if you go down and have a look at like a prototype of the phone, he's got like he's comparing to like the other phones out there like light phone three. Like it doesn't come with WhatsApp, ride share, ride share. It doesn't come with battery swaps or anything. >> Mhm. Yeah, the light phone is like a um uh what was it? E ink kind of looking thing. >> Yeah, which is like $300 more expensive than what this Commodore one's going to be. Like >> Yeah. >> What are people complaining about? >> Well, I think

one of the things I was just you know, just don't install Facebook on your on your phone. >> Yeah, but that that that doesn't work. >> Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. I mean >> I and if he was to put it out there and make it the same as it it's going to the price is going to jump up because it's going to have to be 5G. It's going to have to have a Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Otherwise people would be complaining it's too slow and battery doesn't last and things like that. So, there's no way it's going to win, but I think I might buy one. >> All right. Well, I'm that's very interesting. I would love to hear what you think if you do. Uh I wish them the best of success. I people are saying, you know, all the uh Commodores, you know, uh Commodore's gone again. Like, they're

being very negative about it. Um Yeah, I don't know. I hopefully that's not the case. I hope this is as big a success as they need it to be to to do whatever they got. He also said, to be clear, there's other stuff coming. >> Yes. It has to be as well. >> This isn't the This isn't all Commodores got going on. He was very clear about that. So, if this is not for you, fine. >> There's more to come. >> But, again, they can't just make Commodore 64 versions [laughter] forever, right? So, >> Like, if this was all they were going to do, yes, the business is over, but I doubt this is Yeah, this is not what they have planned cuz >> No. They've got more stuff coming. >> I'm interested to see what they've got coming next.

>> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it's called the Call Back. Uh go to commodore.net if you are interested in checking it out. Uh we don't get anything for talking about it. I just like I said, I just I like Petro Fraktik. I wish him the best of luck with this. I'm interested to see where this goes. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> A lot of It's just You just wait and see. >> Yeah. Yes. Um we've got some more video game news we should talk about. We have mentioned before, I believe, that there is the Stop Destroying Video Games European Citizens Initiative, Yes, was an attempt to have the European Commission step in and prevent studios or publishers from

shutting down game servers for games that require them. So basically making games unplayable after people purchase them. Which I think is a noble cause. However, the European Commission has announced they will engage with the industry to work through it, but they cannot propose a legal obligation to keep video games playable. They cannot make it illegal for them to do this. >> See, well, here's the thing. They're not actually They don't actually want them to make it They don't want to make it legal for them to support the game forever. >> Right. >> They just want it to be let people take over. Like let people be able to >> Sure. >> host the servers or games or whatever they need anymore. Don't just Sorry, we're flicking off our servers and you

cannot play this game ever again. >> Well, I think I think what they're saying is they can't or they're not going to for whatever reason step in and make a law that that does anything to do with that. They'll just They'll work with They'll work with them to try and figure it out. But they're not going to make a law >> It's such a shame cuz if it was going to come from anywhere, it was going to be the European Commission. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think people were trying to have them make it illegal. >> Mhm. >> And I think that's this is their saying, "No, we can't do that." >> Can't do that. >> But maybe we can figure something out. >> And I hope that and I think that's all people want is to figure something out. Like they understand I don't think a lot of people that even behind this issue

understand that a company can't just keep pouring money into keep servers up for the three players that are still playing. Like that's >> Yeah, exactly. >> fair on the company. >> business. It's not a >> But they should on the other side hand over like go, "Hey, look, here's the code if you need someone wants to take this over or run with it or do what you want to do to make your own and we'll stay out of your way." type of thing. >> Yeah, cuz people also feel like, "Oh, make it sing make them single player. Make a single player offline mode." It's like, "Yeah, but that takes resources, time and money." Like, they don't have that. Especially if it's the tail end of the game. >> Yeah. >> Like, that's the There's the way they're shutting it down is cuz it's not making

any money. >> Yeah, they're shutting it down cuz no one's playing anymore. The only reason you're worked up about it is cuz you've heard it's going away. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh unfortunate news for those who wanted that. It's not happening. >> Well, hopefully they can still have a that conversation can still lead to something. >> Yeah. >> To a middle ground. >> Yes. Figure something out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We'll wait and see. But, before we move on, we did say we're going to talk about the Trump phone. >> Oh, yeah. Sorry. Good point. Yeah, so somebody got one. Um >> Yeah. >> It's uh it's not very good, I guess. >> No. No, it's just a >> a plastic >> re-skin of something else. >> Yeah, it's a HTC >> Yeah.

>> phone. Not made in America. >> It says it's assembled. >> Yeah, is it >> How much of it is assembled? I reckon >> He was skeptical. He said, "Well, I'll put in the box in America, perhaps." >> [laughter] >> I know. I reckon they may have put the case on. >> Oh, yeah. The plastic case swap. >> The plastic case swap. That that's it. >> Mhm. It's supposed to be gold. It's yellow. Um >> Oh, really? >> Yeah, it's the like he's Yeah, he said it's not cuz he he did a comparison. He's got uh this is I forget the name of the YouTuber. But, he on Amazon you can buy they're like gold plated uh golf balls. And they actually it's actual gold plating and I he said he I think he said he paid like 50 bucks for three of them. And the surface area

of one of those is probably more than the phone because they're round and they've got all the dimples and stuff like that. Like certainly the three of them together it wouldn't have cost more than $50. Whatever it cost them to do the golf balls in theory you could have done that to the phone. It wouldn't have added much to the price. So >> Yeah. A lot of people started thinking that they just were hoping that people would have forgotten about the phone by now. >> [laughter] >> And now they've been oh [ __ ] we actually have to make this now. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I don't think they got the amount of people pre-ordering that they were hoping for. >> No. >> So and this is definitely not the phone that they were promised to begin with.

>> No. No, I don't I mean I don't understand it at all to be honest. >> Well >> like the I don't understand why they made this. I don't understand why people would want this. I just don't understand. It's so strange. >> Trump just wants his name out there. >> I know. I know but Is this like >> if it's good or bad. >> My first thought is and I'm not accusing anybody of anything. I'm just going to say this. My first thought is you know what what country has government [ __ ] issued devices? It's North Korea. >> [laughter] >> I'm just saying. I don't know that I want everybody using a phone provided by the government. >> [laughter] >> Doesn't seem like a good idea to me. >> Well, here's the thing. This wasn't by the government. This is nothing to do

with him being president. >> Yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure. >> It's the same way that the >> My phone is ringing and it's wobbling. Just ignore that. >> It's the same way that was it Trump got donated an airplane, not the government. >> Yes, from the Saudis. Yeah. >> Yes, the Saudis donated a plane to him and after he's done with his presidency then it gets donated to Trump's charity or something. Why does a charity need a 747? >> Yeah, the it's not the not going to go back to the next president or anything. He's going to keep >> That's that's not a bribe at all. That's not That's nothing soft about that. >> No. Everything is fine. >> [laughter] >> Have you done the thing yet? Are you still going to do it? >> I finished the thing. >> What?

>> I have finished it. Would you like to know what the thing is? We're at the end of We're at just about at the end of the episode. I can let you know what the thing was. >> and I didn't notice? >> Yep. >> Did you give out a code? >> I did not give out a code. >> I thought it was going to be something like that. >> No. >> Were you Were you jerking off under the table? >> No. >> No? >> No. So, before we started recording, my gamer score would have been 5,614,088. If I refresh this now, >> You've been playing Xbox this whole time, you son of a [ __ ] I warned you about this. >> [laughter] >> That Xbox should be turned on.

>> Just refreshing just to see what's happened with my gamer score. So, remember the 614. Sorry, there's two games in front of me that are slowing me down. I'm currently being scanned. I'm now >> Scanned? >> Wait for it. Come on. Get yourself scanned. I'm now 5,618,413. >> So, you got achievements while we were playing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, playing. We weren't playing. We were having a recording a [ __ ] podcast. We're professionals. >> I I played two games. >> What? >> For a total of 4,000 gamer score. It was the Summer Seaside Search where I could just turn on the game and hold Y

and it would just go through and get me all these achievements. [laughter] Yeah. And then I opened up the next copy of it and did the same thing all without you noticing. >> Wow. You turned the sound off. I didn't know what you were doing and I was like and I get annoyed with you. >> [laughter] >> I did make sure the sound was off. >> Well done. All right. I had no idea. >> Yep. >> That should not encourage you to do it again though. >> I I No, I just wanted to see if I could get away with it just once. >> All right. Uh my daughter has a gamer has a has a Xbox account now. >> Ooh, we have to become friends. >> She got her first achievement uh and her second achievement. So uh yeah, you'd be very proud.

>> Yeah, she's coming for me. >> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. I'll let I'll let you know what her gamertag is. It's uh I'm not going to announce it on the show, obviously, at the moment. Maybe at some point, but not right now. I'll send it I'll let you know though. But yeah, she's very excited. Now I was excited when she got her first achievement, which was Guess what game it was? >> Bluey? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> And uh you've played the game I assume to get the achievements. You know where you do the floor is lava? >> Yes. >> And it's like a platformer type you got to jump and avoid the floor. And I find it that controls are atrocious in that game because it's like a kid She is [ __ ] good at it. >> [laughter] >> To the point where I was like, "What is happening? How

How are you doing that?" She just burm burm burm burm burm and I'm like, "Fuck. All right." >> She's already out playing you. >> I'd add that, absolutely. Yeah. >> No, I'm keeping I'm keeping an eye. There's another Bluey game out at the moment, but I refuse to spend spend 60 bucks on it. >> What's the new Bluey game? >> Um Let's see. Bluey let's play. No, that's on the App Store. Quest [snorts] for the golden pen. Bluey Quest for the golden pen. >> Mhm. >> [clears throat] >> On the Nintendo Switch. Oh, look at this. Oh, wow. [ __ ] All right. >> It takes about 3 to 4 hours to get 100% of the achievements. >> [laughter] >> I don't care about that.

>> But they're all just for playing in the game, which I quite like. >> Oh, okay. Quest for the golden How much is this on Xbox? Golden pen >> $60 for me. >> $40 for me. >> Um I That's a too much for what it is. That needs to be on sale. >> Yeah, how much of How much game is there here? >> About 3 to 4 hours. >> No, for you, yeah. How much Well, I got to say the other Bluey game has gotten a lot of uh given me a lot of value >> Yeah. >> She's technically played through it three times. Once on Jen's account, once on my account, and now on her own account. >> On hers. >> So. >> But it is a quite scary that it's like $60, but the size is 800 meg. >> [laughter] >> That's no reflection of the value or

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