This week we discuss porn, murder, kidnapping, abuse… and Mars. It’s a lot funnier than it sounds, we promise.
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[Music] welcome to multiple nerdgasm your destination for all things nerdy so I hope you all enjoyed our last week throwback episode uh this time we're back for another live episode that's right well well it's live as really live pre-taped and pre-edited where do we get Live Well it's live now but by the time anyone hears it it's not live it's it's not something it's not something we recorded 3 4 years ago no it's no but it will be something we recorded three or four weeks ago by the time people hear it well that's not true still it's as live as we've ever been yeah we've never been more live it was crazy going back and listening to that what we used to sound
like I know sound quality ter all used to be in the same room yeah it's very different when we're in the same room we talk over each other a lot more and we laugh a lot more because we're looking at each other's facial expressions yeah we can't do that now so we just let each other talk and easy to get the one thing yeah and now we're talking over each other now but that's the weird thing we're talking over each other more back then when we could see each other yeah that's because um I think when you're sitting across the table from each other two people can be having a conversation and then two the two other people can kind of continue to talk whereas on Skype you can't do that like no cuz you as as evidenced by the last five minutes as soon as two people
start talking at the same time no one knows what's going on anymore but and then everyone just stops that's right so I think as weird as we thought it was going to be Skype helped a bit except for right now obviously where it's causing problems yeah this is a disaster but other than that it's been great thanks now I know we've got a lot in the spreadsheet here for us to discuss but should we just get into Star Wars sure yeah I mean Dave's not here so I guess we can talk about it all we want so I guess you all saw the trailer yeah I think if anyone listening hasn't seen the trailer then you need to unsubscribe to this podcast like honestly if it's been 2 weeks since that trailer dropped and you haven't watched
it then you're not enough of a nerd to enjoy this podcast so we can't make you stop listening but if you listen from now on you'll know that you're doing so against our Express wishes yeah yeah so there's there's a new Star Wars uh I was actually refreshing the page the apple trailers page a little bit um the day before it came out waiting for it cuz they didn't say what time it was going to come out um and then I ended up watching it first thing in the morning and I was pretty disappointed the first time I watched it I got to say interesting I watched it a few times in quick succession and I got excited by it yeah and I mean that I got excited oh I I see what you're implying there Luke
uh you you got erected y I guess is what you're saying yes yeah interesting yeah uh no I was excited too although not erect um because at my age it's uh you know sometimes it's it's a bit hard to get there but um you do what you can yeah you know um but um you know the over 50s it's just it's just been hard it's been hard to achieve and maintain sorry how old are you if I can segue into something else real quick I I did something today that I haven't done since I was a child right right and that's that I accidentally got soap in my urethra is any have you done that recently it is so incredibly pain not recently neither had I and I I ducked home from work cuz I had a meeting off site and then I ducked home cuz I needed to pick something up and I was like [ __ ]
it I'm going to have a quick shower and I think it was because I was R [ __ ] I'm going to wash inside my P but I think I don't know my technique was off or something but I got soap in my Ure thr and [ __ ] did it hurt how did you get it out just well that's the thing that's the thing how the [ __ ] do you flush out your dick hole I was trying it I was just like my plan after a kind of a failed attempt to to wash it out was to just drink a fuckload for the rest of the day and just spend the rest of the day slowly peeing myself back to health [ __ ] freak well it is a little strange maybe we need to have a docking special edition episode I mean we can't talk about docking without Dave
right yeah I would have I mean we need him well the request specifically was for Dave to do a segment on docking right well that is specific yeah exactly I mean I'm glad people are getting getting interested but you know like I mean we've got a lot of really important things to say about docking too so whoever said that yeah it's a little insensitive okay well I don't want to say who is so yeah well I um I emplore you not to all right fine but yeah it's an official request from a listener so um let's add that to the um 100th episode list yeah all right good point good point all right so back to um R2-D2 on a beach ball yeah yeah yeah that I wasn't too excited about someone was done got a
tattoo of it yep y so that that's uh I just posted that in the show notes yeah I don't know man look here go ahead mat well I think the main problem the first time I saw it was I had some issues with the trailer buffering and I was forced to watch the little Droid soccer ball guy about five times so basically I saw the start where it's just the desert and I was like okay cool that's tne and then the Stormtrooper guy pops up and I was like right I don't know what that's about at all and then cuts the little Droid and then it would freeze and then yeah about five times I had to go g go back to the start cuz it's yeah well that's not ideal look I'll admit it I was I was on board from the start and I was psyched and I loved it and I was
really excited and you know I'm not letting myself get too invested in this because you know like it might just it might be a [ __ ] movie might just be an average movie I don't know yeah you know I did like the the Star Trek reboot I thought that was pretty good if it's if it's even that good I'll be happy and I mean this is like they've only just finished principal photography right and I assume they've been working on some effects in the time being but probably most of that will be done now so what we saw was just a a little taste of what's already been done and I'm sure that's a tiny tiny fragment of of you know what they're working on really yeah we have year and 13 days until we get to see this movie yeah 17th and to clarify I mean I was
disappointed in the trailer I think I was I wanted too much from the trailer and uh I guess well the two things that put me off the most were the little Droid and also the new lightsaber all right well I've got I've got com on that lightsaber made sense to yeah me too in a world where everyone who wields a lifesaber lightsaber eventually gets their hand cut off I think a hilt is a really smart addition well yes except the I mean the way that they get their hands chopped off that we've seen it wouldn't protect against and as far as I can tell when you when two lightsabers hit each other they don't slide they kind of stick so it's I don't know it's I mean my
understanding of or my my observations of lightsabers in the film so far in the do I don't know yeah I don't well I don't see I don't see how it has any use and the other thing is although um Steven colar did a little segment where he he explained around he explained why he thinks this this isn't an issue um but if you look at the way it works it's sticks out from the side so if if another lightsaber did slide down the blade of your lightsaber it would just cut through the handle and his ex you know what I mean like yeah I see what you're saying and he pointed out well the um the blade doesn't come from the the openings on the side it comes from inside it's all part of the same beam and it gets split so the beam the
beam continues inside the metal so the the three prongs are linked and so if you were to cut down through the metal you would just hit lightsaber yeah that's how that's how lasers work yeah I'm sure of it yeah well that except we've also seen lightsabers get chopped in half before so I don't know and you know what it doesn't [ __ ] matter it just I saw it and I went oh I'm not entirely sure they've put that much thought into it no I my first thought was just oh I'm not a lightsaber gimmick I didn't we didn't need that like so I didn't mind it I I don't see in context in context it might be fine it was just a thing that I didn't it didn't need it I don't think and I think to put it to not show a whole lot of anything but to show that I think was a bit I
don't know it might not even look like that this is so early and it's just a teaser not an actual trailer um and might I remind you do you know what for anyone who was disappointed with this teaser because they expected more from it can I tell you what was a great trailer what film had an absolutely stunning fantastic trailer please go ahead The Phantom Menace I know I knew right like that trailer gave me [ __ ] goose bumps every time I watched it yeah and that was like seeing seeing that movie was I don't I've got no metaphor but um you're right I and I did think that as well I remember I was like oh remember when I saw the trailer for The Phantom men I was so excited and H that didn't work out so maybe this is for the best
yeah that's right look I mean here's here's what I took away from from this trailer number one the world of star Star Wars is populated by women and minorities you know which just highlights the differences between making a film in the late 7s and making film in 2014 no problem with that I didn't even notice that but you're right there was that's all that was in the trailer yeah that's right um there's drama even in the photography of this in a way that the prequels didn't have like yeah that shot of the troops in the carrier and that camera's handheld and there's kind of this kind of kinetic energy before they you know I mean it was like a it was like the Normandy Landing or something when that yeah door came down like That's so exciting like I
don't know where they're going or whether they're good guys or bad guys I know nothing about the context but it was just dramatic and exciting and there's nothing like that in the prequels nothing at all yeah yeah agreed I think my favorite scene in that teaser trailer was the x-wings oh yeah and then just that close on the guy's face that just took me straight back to Empire Strikes Back yeah Oscar Isaac's too he's a great actor mhm I did wonder if it just reminds me so much of West Jansen in the Empire it's just and that part just made me I don't know I know I shouldn't be getting excited looking forward to this but I am and I've been let down so many times one other thing one other thing that was a bit I don't know it I was
like I I didn't pick up on that's what it was until later but there's no space in the trailer at all all of the the ships are like so interesting the x-wings are flying above like a a body of water of some kind and then the the Falcon is in the atmosphere of it looks like TN cuz it's sand but that there was no space which I don't know I like would have expected there to be some maybe but I guess it just depends on what they're working on first so one thing I just appear occurred to me and I think it's ABS why they they on tatto yeah that the other thing I don't know just forget it well it's a planet in the middle of might be tat it could just be a desert I mean the way that planets work in the Star Wars universe is that every planet
only has one terrain so if anyone from the Star Wars world ever came to the planet Earth their first thought would be holy [ __ ] this one planet has multiple terrains what is this look this area here is like tne but look it's the forest Moon of Endor over here yeah now look to me this trailer the takeaways from this trailer are look we've got new characters we've got new robots but we've also got ships you'll recognize characters you know that you'll recognize old and new yeah I mean that's what that's what I want I just got one the other thing yeah I wanted to see some of the some of the stars as well that was that was one other thing I wanted I wanted to see I wanted to see what mark will look like
you want to see Carrie fish's old wrinkled body in the slave girl costume no I want to see I want to know what she looks like in this film I was there's a lot of leaked well not leaked there's a bunch of photos of Mark Hamill with a beard with a hood on with like a a robe on and I think most of them are photoshopped but I was expecting a bit of that in the trailer as well and when I didn't get it I was a bit like oh yeah I mean I'm assuming I like what they showed I'm assuming that there's going to be like one scene where whichever the characters are in this movie go somewhere and are greeted by the elderly cast yeah you know and I'm kind of hoping that it's that too because I really don't want this to be K Kingdom
of the Crystal Skull and like old Han Solo is following them everywhere yeah I know what you mean I I'm sure we'll see probably the next trailer will probably W be out in about 6 yeah they say that this they say that the trailer will be out uh is going to premiere in Age of Ultron oh okay so may yes so we've got about 6 months before that trailer and then another six months or so before the film okay well look at least we'll have something to chew on in the meantime yeah and I mean it's okay I I'm I'm aware of I'm self-aware enough to know that I was just expecting more from it and that and I watched it again a couple times afterwards I'm like no it's fine it's just a couple of things that make me go I don't know because of the lightsaber
and the the Droid I don't know seemed a bit prequal to me yeah we'll see I I will I'll give you the Droid no I don't want it I see no point in having a soccer ball drawing yeah I don't I just don't understand why that what is that why is that I it possibly an homage to a great old science fiction movie called Dark Star oh yeah if anyone's seen that where they're actually they're correct where there's a literal beach ball right I'm okay with that only people that have seen Dark Star know what I'm talking about and everyone else is going there's a beach ball and what what what the alien in the movie is played by literally a beach ball right it's CU darkar cuz Dan benon wrote Alien and um yeah the plots are actually very similar
I've heard you see I know a fair bit about darkar I've actually never seen it I should watch it well rather than watching Dark Star you should watch the documentary on Dark Star on the making of it you see pretty much the whole movie right okay uh but it also gives you like a really good insight into how they put it together because it's a student film that they made at Uni right and um they were doing so well that halfway through it the director I think it's is it cronenburg shopped it around to some local cinemas and they bought it kind of like a pre-sale and said yeah we'll play play this once it comes out and here's some money and they use that money to finish it off and make it a bit better a bit longer yeah right Co cool absolute classic but the whole trucker
in space thing that everyone equates to alien is from this too right well yeah okay same rer well sort of if you watch the behind the scenes for alien they um there's a bit of conflicting opinion on the um origins of all the the good bits of alien if you yeah sure absolutely but there's also and I think we may have even talked about on this podcast there's there's an old movie from the early 50s and I think it's called it the creature from Bas or something like that which is the exact plot of alien right like a a ship picks up a distress signal they check out another ship it's abandoned except for an alien creature which then hops onto their ship and then systematically kills the crew one by one and they they even kill it in the last scene by shooting it at the airlock well
I mean that's how you kill stuff in space yeah that's how I do it yeah it's easy way to do it yeah well that's that's how uh that's how they're going to have to do it on their way to Mars hey Luke did they call you did you get the call uh not yet but they're they're probably busy just designing a few things they don't need me there yet well but you you should go into training now though Luke just start yeah going for a run in the morning or you know yourside down on the Seesaw yeah yeah um and please fill the paperwork out this time yeah don't just pay the 30 bucks and leave it at that all right yeah so for those who don't understand what the [ __ ] we're talking about which NASA yeah NASA have announced and I mean I think they've talked about this before but
this is kind of a bit more official um they're sending people to Mars there well they're planning to send people to Mars and there's a timeline uh and um some pretty exciting imagery I found the imagery to be exciting I would agree but you know what's the most exciting part about this for me is that this is NASA this is not some private Enterprise M you know funded by billionaires this is NASA really kicking it up a notch and it's just really inspiring to know that somebody is taking this space exploration seriously again yeah yeah because I mean a lot of people have said oh you know it's all very well for them to say that but NASA's as much as um they say they're crippled by funding they're more crippled by the fact that they need to make all their different
parts relevant within the organization and you know they had a perfectly they've had a perfectly good plan to send people to Mars years ago and and it all just fell fell apart because every division needs to have their say and it's it's there's too much bureaucracy and all this kind of stuff and you know maybe that's true but like they've done so much [ __ ] awesome stuff and it just I don't know I just like who the [ __ ] else is going to do it like you said there's all these private companies and and companies like like SpaceX now they can launch stuff into space like better than anybody ever has before but that's all that they do they don't do anything else so you know that that's good take that away from NASA and let NASA do the the the kind of
groundbreaking sciencey [ __ ] stuff like you know cuz we don't have the technology to do it yet so I think rather than people saying oh you know the private companies will get their first I think personally I think it's more likely that the private companies will take care of the stuff that NASA would have had to worry about before and they can go well here you go build the rockets that get us up there and we'll focus on the the human transport uh like that the Orion vessels the um mhm the new human Transportation vessels and stuff like that like I don't know is anyone else slightly creeped out by the use of the word human in this context I I don't know why I know NASA tweeted we're sending humans to Mars and like not we're sending people to Mars you know
what I mean not we're sending as to Mars we're sending humans to Mars I don't know it's just too I agree it it also it takes away like kind of it's not vague at all they're like they're saying no no humans we're sending humans people can't go oh they mean they just mean another probe or theyan you know they mean whatever no humans right but but humans as opposed to what but I know you mean probes but like humans to me implies What could they send you know what I mean yeah right sending bonobos I think what we really need to we need to have some [ __ ] deadline like they did for getting to the Moon Yeah well yeah no no you're absolutely we're going there by the end of the decade we need that well
the only reason we went to the moon is because we had to beat Russia well sorry America had to beat Russia like and let let's all right America bring throw get out there Australia we want we challenge you to a race tomorrow yeah and the winner I they going to win but the winner will get a Borderlands Tales of Borderlands uh yeah key you want this game get on it buddy that's the competition first first country to make human landing on Mars but I love this picture right so they we'll put this in the show notes they put this image up which is is I mean it's it's propaganda I guess of sorts it's says Journey to Mars with this fancy Mars you know like the Little Star Trek looking a very it's very Star Trek
looking like this is like it's science fiction this image and it's got it says technology exploration science and it's all like Earth with stuff flying over towards Mars and it's got International Space Station um space station launch system uh what we solar electric propulsion asteroid redirect Mission orbiters Landers like uh what does that say that text is too blood Mars transfer spacecraft Mars transfer spacecraft in space habitat that's what it says but those three words Mars transfer spacecraft like that's exciting yeah the fact that they and they've drawn a little picture of it what I'm nervous about is the asteroid redirect Mission yeah so
they're going to the like in um 2020 something they're going to attempt send robots to redirect an asteroid into orbit around the moon so that they can they can then send people up in the new um transport shuttle sh they're going to put asteroids in orbit around the Moon yeah they're going to the biggest and most impressive juggling act the world yeah I know well they did just land a I mean obviously will that be visible from Earth I [ __ ] hope so that would be cool yeah imagine looking up at the moon and seeing these Little Orbits did just land a little thing on a comet which I guess was good practice although I mean yeah yeah so I don't know yeah we don't need to go to it anymore it's also kind of terrifying cuz if it doesn't work the
moon's a lot yeah the moon's not too far away so well I mean it is but it isn't were you worrying they're going to [ __ ] up the moon no they're going to launch it's going to skip past the moon straight into us all right yeah so I don't know but yeah I mean this is this is just cool man man like yeah I don't know there's a little picture of Hubble on there as well we've got it all in there all the cool stuff and um yeah 2030 something they reckon sending they'll send people over not too far away no I mean we might still be alive yeah theoretically yeah you know all going well we'll still be alive well let's hope so we're not going to be that old no that's what I mean but I mean impotent but you know that's true
all going well well stop with the SL yeah I just can't yeah try tobasco sauce tried it oh yeah well there's some probably there's some things in the UK you might not be able to try anymore that's true a whole bunch of sex acts have just been banned in the UK not across the board in pornography but it's pretty funny what's what's up for Banning now but they can't show this in pornography at all you want to hear the list you want to hear the list of things that you're not allowed to watch in the I do and this this this includes things you're now not allowed to buy on DVD and watch On Demand um and here's the list spanking caning whipping penetration by
objects quote associated with violence quite no well that means that's kind of vague and specific at the same time I think it means no Bill Cosby um there's a game called St tro where there's a dildo gun so that's now associated with violence so no dildos is that now physical and verbal abuse uh water sports role playing as non-adults physical restraint humiliation female ejaculation strangulation face sitting and fisting that's interesting the female ejaculation thing is because I mean I I know there's debate over whether what it is and what it isn't um but that's interesting that can be for another podcast but yeah I'm you
know you don't want to go into it they haven't banned male ejaculation no that's what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah I just uh I don't know well like I said I mean some people there as far as I'm aware there's some uh some discussion around what female ejaculation is and whether it's you know a thing or not but uh by me yeah it's interesting that they're taking that stance and just chucking it on the list there yeah that's right it just seemed out of place with a lot of the other things that are on the yeah cuz everything there seems to be about violence or or kind of negative things whereas I don't know I like it it's not just whipping it's aggressive wh yeah that's right so you can't spank you can't cane but you're allowed to whip as long as it's not aggressive yes unless
your whipping transcends into spanking or caning physical or verbal abuse regardless of if consensual well I I assume that that applies to everything because surely it's all consensual well yeah go a good point like only one of them says regardless of consent but I'm I'm assuming that spanking without consent is always been frowned upon surely fisting without consent for example would be yeah yeah yeah it's just an interesting list and I just I mean that one just stands out to me as as odd like they kind of taking a stance when they put that on there you know what I mean yeah yeah oh interesting and so what what is what happens if um if I watch that in the UK well I think it's going to be a matter of um you know DVDs being pulled from
shelves and uh online services being or it just to sell it well I mean there's guidelines about that kind of stuff here that are kind of ignored as well like xrated content is actually banned here in Australia but you can go into a sex shop and buy an XR DVD um right off the shelf but chances are every 6 months that shop will probably be raided by the cops you know so they know it happens but it just continues yeah I know it's it's you are able to buy in the ACT that's why I moved here originally yeah that's right but some things like this role playing as non adults that's been the law here for quite some time yeah you're not to depict you're not allowed to depict pedophilia in porn even if it's over 18s playing
playing that does make sense absolutely yeah um yeah I like this um this dominatrix says I mean why ban face sitting what's so dangerous about it that's probably a bad example it's a out of all the things she could have chosen to get up on her high horse about yeah yeah exactly or High face about uh its power is symbolic Woman On Top unattainable wow sitting on my face slightly more attainable than sitting you know across the room yeah that's right oh I loving this quote from the append from the Independent by um Director Erica last who said we need to rethink what is offensive dangerous and what is in fact normal human nature and
it's like well I mean yeah that's true but I mean I don't know if fisting is just human nature you know what I mean like I I agree with the sentiment but I'm not sure about the specifics of it it's like I have the fist stuff it's [ __ ] human nature human nature you try not fisting obviously we all go home and piss on our wives but we don't want to watch other people do it I mean I want to watch other people piss on my wife but that's only because I've got certain issues that's right that I'm working through I mean physical or verbal abuse I mean that's one thing but consensual who wants to see that yeah yeah oh the final three listed fall under AE the bbfc views as potentially
life endangering okay strangulation face sitting and fisting fisting yeah yeah like if assume there's stuff in your butt that you don't want to break I assume well are we hang on fisting fting what fisting anything I mean I obviously I went there cuz I I don't have F I don't have anything else to be you know before you've ever fisted his butts then that's kind of you go to fisting hle is it you know yeah I I you I work with what I know is the episode called goto fisting hole does it but yeah well I guess it applies to all fisting and um yeah humiliation I mean look what kind of Nanny state do we live in where I can't just relax and unwind at the end of the day by just watching One consensual adult fist another
consent yeah yeah who's humiliated by it yeah and covered in Piss pretending to be a child no I do agree with that one the role playing as not adults because if I'm watching a um you know a pornographic film where um you know say a grown man is having sex with a child I want that child to be a real child and I don't want to be tricked by someone who's over 18 you know what I mean yeah absolutely so I agree with that that's false advertising for anything yeah yeah y well um I don't know uh if any of you listeners have been sorry I I should reord that we start again now some of
the listeners have been more than kind and headed over to the iTunes page to give us a positive review and we really appreciate that um and I don't know just I should probably give you a warning I've taken a a page out of the book of um of some hotels in the UK and I've added to the terms and conditions on our website MH um if someone were to leave as a negative review on iTunes they will be fined several hundred oh it's an interesting that's great okay yeah so how does that work well I mean I I I I got the idea from um from a British Hotel uh the Broadway Hotel uh where Tony and Jen Jenkins stayed one night um they weren't happy with their stay and they took to Trip Advisor and left a review where they
said the hotel was a filthy dirty rotten stinking H H powerful words so yeah I mean not the best review not the best review so they then found that they had been charged um a fee uh on top you know on their credit card um from the hotel because according to the terms and conditions in their booking document it says despite the fact that repeat customers and couples love our hotel your friends and family may not for every bad review left on any website the group organizer will be charged a maximum of £100 per review wow that some I mean um I mean I'm actually they've been told you can't do that now yeah I'm pretty sure just putting something in the teas and sees doesn't mean it just becomes law no the
British that says the hotel has now altered its terms of service after local officials complained um and local politician says our trading standards team became aware of the issue last week as a result we've spoken to the hotel owner and asked for the policy to be removed which has now happened W now my question is this a new policy that I had in place or they been doing this making money of this for a while why why did they feel it was necessary to put that in there and actually I I'll this isn't the first case of this that I've read about either um I think and that's not just a little bit of a bad review that's like like these guys clearly didn't have a good time no that's right they yeah they were obviously um yeah thought the place was a [ __ ] hole yeah um and and I mean it's
obviously worked against the hotel because now everybody knows like this could have just been a a bad review that most people probably wouldn't have seen and not worried about it but now the whole world knows about it because they try to charge the money for it I don't know it's just such a weird thing so and obviously I was joking if you want to leave as a negative review I don't [ __ ] care go on no don't I'll just go please don't yeah good point yeah I'll just flag it as inappropriate you can do that right I can get us banned off iTunes please don't get us banned from iTunes yeah please don't but yeah uh yeah I just this isn't the first um article I've read about hotels doing this I thought it was really interesting
um and hopefully it goes away cuz that's [ __ ] stupid I mean that's really just the kind of business way of saying well [ __ ] you yeah that's right by the way we know it's [ __ ] but if you tell anyone we'll charge you $100 or P1 which is about $200 that's [ __ ] fing a [ __ ] go go on where where are you seg going to now where you go with this did you know I I saw this article the other day oh the other week um and I just didn't know about this Ashton coocher um is a [ __ ] no no he he was dating a girl um and this is actually he was already famous at this time uh I
believe like he he was he was in Hollywood he was acting and everything um so I don't know I don't know why I mean obviously I don't follow his career or all that but this is kind of interesting story U he had a girlfriend who was murdered um and he he went he he was trying to get hold of her and he couldn't so he went ran to her house and like looked in the window and saw what he thought was red wine spilled on the floor and thought ah she just got the shits and you know had a few drinks or whatever or come back later and um yeah it turns out no she'd been murdered and that was her blood Jesus yeah oh yeah like that's [ __ ] up I didn't know that yeah that is [ __ ] up not not just that she'd
been murdered too but stabbed so repeatedly through the neck that her head was almost severed from her body yeah that's hardore oh God yeah I mean does this happen often enough that that we don't don't hear about and I'm not sure why well I mean it did happen often in the sense that it was a uh a serial killer yeah well that's the other thing too there's this serial killer that I didn't know about I mean it wasn't that long ago was it 2001 2001 but bear in mind that he didn't get arrested until 2008 [ __ ] hell and assuming that he killed people before that too and that she wasn't necessarily the first one yeah no that's uh that's a lot of people being killed apparently he was a local handyman and he would just start fixing stuff for people whether they wanted stuff fixed
or not and then uh he'd fix them [ __ ] hell you think this would be a story that we would have heard her 201 did we just completely miss this well I mean like I said I don't follow you know Ashton cooa that closely but you keep saying that but yeah you know an awful lot about him but I know who he is and I mean I mean the story if I I'm sure if I saw this I would have been like Jesus Christ like that's full on yeah and it seems like um like this article is on Gawker and it the way that it's been framed the article is from um the 19th of November this year it seems like nobody knew about this yeah like it it's it kind of I guess was hushed because I mean probably I mean you know really it's it's a sad thing and it's it's horrible it's just I don't know it seems
strange that this serial killer murdering Ashton cooch's girlfriend was a was like went under the radar yeah for for what uh six years she also dated Vin Diesel yeah I mean [ __ ] and jery sister who I have no idea who that is should I know who that is he's in a lot of stuff but he's not really a household name but you'd know him if you saw him okay yeah anyway I just I thought that was really interesting and not only that that led me um I think possibly from the comments on that article led me to another story that apparently I mean this comment a buzzfeed Loop that Matt disappeared into for a night Yeah well yeah um this one this one is
is more questionable but um I like I mean List you can I'll put some links in the show notes and you can Google this and I mean enough people are talking about it I guess like it's an urban legend of if nothing else but apparently allegedly uh once while filming flipper here in Australia Jessica Alba when she was a Teen um was kidnapped after be receiving threatening phone calls and and being harassed by somebody um she was kidnapped from set um went missing for for quite a a while and then was found bound and gagged in the trunk of a car and they never caught the person who who did it now like I said I can't find any news articles or any legit links about it all I can find is a bunch of anecdotal like stories where people say
there is an interview in a magazine where she mentions it it's so weird and in this article that you've sent us that we'll obviously put in the show notes it's just 50 things you didn't know about Jessica Alba I mean and this could be any 50 facts about that was the best source I could find scrolling down that okay so number 11 is in 1994 she landed her oil on a TV show called flipper number 12 Jessica was kidnapped she was found in the trunk of a car then number 13 she also appeared in Beverly Hills 90210 and it's like sorry go back there you you really do need to give me a bit more information on that whose [ __ ] car was she found in like check that out yeah so like I said I couldn't find too much on it if any of listeners have
any more information on that only because I find it interesting actually that um something like that is is not you know kind of more widely reported consider she a big star now you know and considering that fact number 26 is Jessica's nickname ISS yeah who [ __ ] cares about that like yeah go back to the one where they found her tied and gagged in the trunk of someone's car yeah when she was like 14 years old yeah so such a strange story to have literally like no coverage unless it might just be an urban legend maybe it's [ __ ] and the reason that I can't find anything is that that all of the sources just link to each other and like if you look there's Yahoo answers where people say was Jessica Alba really kidnapped and then someone's
like yeah she was like you know she'd still be in my car if it wasn't for you kids yeah so um I don't know some some dodgy Australian may have attempted to abduct Jessica Alba might have saved us from the Fantastic Four films failed now but seriously yeah if anyone knows any more about that I just let us know cuz it would be interesting more hear say you want you want more people that are not involved to weigh on this and in fact actually if you if there are any other interesting celebrity stories like that like send them in cuz I you know we talk about this [ __ ] can I just say though I've I've just followed this up by just going to Yahoo and says is it
true that Jessica RBA has been kidnapped right um and I'm not going to go into detail because I'm I'm just going to make you wait while I sit and read this but just glancing at the second comment starts with the phrase I've been doing some extensive research on Jessica ala for a paper I'm writing in my English class now even without reading ahead what the [ __ ] yeah why are you writing a paper on Jessica Alber at all let alone for your English class and what kind of extensive research are you doing yeah see and I mean I got I got no problem with Jessica I quite like Jessica Alber in certain things like you know she was good in um ID don't the boot of a car I meant Idle Hands I first saw her in and I liked that film um and then
obviously she's gone on to do you know shitty stuff later on but she was cool can I just can I read you the um but I don't want to write a paper about her I don't want to write a paper about it yeah please do so on Yahoo ansers is it true that Jesse Graber was kidnapped it's then got related questions on the side which are um has Jessica Alba gotten uglier um is it true that Jessica Alba slept with people to get her roles in movies oh and what bikini posters should I get Jessica Alba or Shakira oh so these are depressing questions that people need answer if they're the two options Jessica Alba but of course I followed through to What bikini poster should I get Jessica Albert or Shakira here are the answers the order yeah Shakira right Jessica Alba if
I must answer well you must you don't have to um I'm a girl but I think you should go get one of Jessica Alba right then there's I hate bikini posters and then the final response you're posting this in the parenting session a section for parents of adolescence oh Jesus I love Yahoo is that's great see I'd like to do more stuff with Y anwers but I feel like I'm ripping off like maim bam and all those others maybe but I don't care I'm going ahead2 is it true Jessica Alber slip with people get her roles in previous Movies answer number one unlikely she's too good-looking to need to sleep with people to get what she wants uh
right then I'm looking down not true Jessica Alba would never do that then there's this one actresses today don't do the cast Casting Couch thing anymore don't they yeah I'm sure that's true too yeah then there's I hope not considering the crap she stars in Zing all right yeah well obviously she doesn't do it anymore wellow I would think not then there's this one she's a great actress great is in all caps don't believe everything you hear all right and then there's this I don't believe great she's hot what is Jessica Alba I never thought we'd talk about Jessica Alber on this podcast I just
want to say yeah what is she doing now I know that she um she did that staring competition um which was pretty cool I don't know what you're [ __ ] talking about didn't she do a staring competition on webcam with people I thought that was a pretty cool thing for her to do you know who did do a bit of a steering competition lately who's that shy abuff oh my God oh my God all right let's do this play the jingle yeah yeah who says play the jingle now oh yeah yeah um I I guess I'll um give it a go cue the jingle [Music] Maddie that's actually one of my favorite Jingles that I've done done the sh of buff jingle it is a great jingle yeah it was until I remembered uh some
of the older Jingles like dwarf watch yeah that's right oh man there's a I got a folder full of old Jingles we should just do a remember that jingle segment at some point so we can revisit them definitely well why doesn't a 100th episode play yeah in fact you know what 100th episode needs to just be wall toall segments yep all right and we bring back everything we do MIM y we do kundun mhm we do you know everything just everything and we we play all the jingles mhm everything that has a jingle needs to recur so we need to do a Willam defo yeah it's got to be some Willam defo news y there's got to be some Sasquatch news someone's got to have some bu remorse yep yep yeah all right cool well I'll basically I'll go through the
folder work out what Jingles we've got and then we know what we have to do yeah yeah build the episode backwards so who wants to talk about sh yeah please please I think we luk you were you've got quite a bit of backstory here why don't you get it started yeah I don't really have backstory I know says everyone else Shai's come out and said um remember when Shai went a bit nuts and had his that one performance art remember where he just sat in the room and said come in do whatever you want to me he won't speak and he won't do anything he just sit there and take it yep well he's now come out and said that uh during this time he was raped on Valentine's Day yeah here is what he said he said one
woman came in with her boyfriend who was outside the door when this happened whipped my legs for 10 minutes and then stripped my clothing and proceeded to rape me there were hundreds of people in line when she walked out with disbled hair and smudged lipstick disheveled hair sorry oh and then he said that it was especially distressing because was supposed to have a date with his girlfriend later um although I mean I don't I just don't understand like I'm not quite sure why that makes the rap worse that's what I mean like no it would have been all right would been all right to had a date just I I don't really know what to make of this because I thought the whole point of this performance art if you can
call it that um was that people were supposed to do literally anything they wanted to him and he was just going to sit there and cop it like didn't he say like come andit him with me with a crowbar and yeah like and and then I I mean someone else one of the other artists I forget who it was has come out and defended him to say look this actually did happen and when they worked out what was happening they came in to stop it and she ran out and I'm sort of that's leading me to believe that maybe it not so much a rape as uh she was going along with it he then said stop there was a bit of a and then she left which well there's a lot of spec a lot spe yeah I I don't really want to weigh
in on this look I just think we know literally no details and also shab buff I mean it it could also just be not true you know like yeah but it's I mean it's interesting I mean is he really just going to stand there and and be like well I said I wasn't going to move so I guess I I guess I have to [ __ ] her now like I don't know it seems like it's it's not quite the same as you know a horrific rape you know like he could have done something we're on we're on thin ice here even just discussing this I mean if if you swapped genders around we'd be we'd be saying like no that's not on yeah you're right actually and if it
wasn't shy AB buff we'd be saying the same thing too probably no no no but I would I'd still be saying the same thing because even if the genders were swapped right if it was a woman doing the performance art and somebody did that and they just were like wow well I can't do anything no come on like I'm not saying again not saying it's okay I'm just saying that to say that well you know I I said I wasn't going to protest so I couldn't protest doesn't that's not quite right you know what I'm saying like no no no but his attitude is fun it's it's you you don't have to have said no for it to be raped you just have to have not consented I agree like I think no person when they're stripping somebody off who hasn't kind of been into it or whatever is confused at all
about whether or not the person's consenting sure so it doesn't become less rape because he didn't fight back or try to overpower her I agree but in any way that that you know if you get mugged and you don't try to bash the dude it's still a mugging you're right I you're right I'm not I'm not disagree with that at all I'm just saying I it's just very strange that he didn't do something you know what I mean is it though it's [ __ ] sh well and and yeah there you go the thing was already weird to begin with but I've got to say and I don't I don't want to victim blame here but no no no but but Shia is if if you are shy La buff and you say I'm going to [ __ ] put a bag over my head stand in a room and why I want people to come in and do literally whatever they want to
me I'm surprised one person [ __ ] him yeah I mean that's what I would have done just just cause yeah you know what I mean I would have abused that body man cuz [ __ ] him you know yeah [ __ ] you sh I mean yeah if if it if it really happened then that's awful I just it's just very strange here's one thing I find very weird about it he's also said so um news of it sort of traveled through the line and so if news have this traveled through the line we would have heard about it before that's true well this wouldn't be somebody that's coming out a year ler think someone would have mentioned it I don't know I I mean a I'm not even sure I really believe it was shy buff with the with the hood on no people filmed people filmed um yeah people actually took photos you can look
up but wasn't he there for like a week like saying we don't believe it all that he had just come and fill in I don't know maybe like I just don't know how much of this is all still part of the performance art yeah including this article perhaps I don't know purely speculation well did you see what he actually did when he went and met the uh journalist oh yeah he went cuz this was all done via email and then they decided to meet in person but they didn't want to take their sort of relationship they built up online they didn't want to ruin that so they sat in a room with GoPros on their head and stared at each other for an hour didn't say anything yeah he's a weirdo that's for sure and that's the other thing it's not like he's not pressing charges or anything he's just tell he's
just mentioned this now he's just oh by the way uh some chick raped me while I was doing that like he's just he's odd I'll give him that yeah my girlfriend wasn't very happy about it yeah and again like as far as I'm aware it's not he's not looking to sue anybody or press charges or or anything like that he's just it's just something that came up in the interview and he was like oh yeah sorry I didn't mention that like h very strange well I've just I've just clicked on a link called why did they just let shuff's rapist walk away if it loads in time while we're still talking I'll uh no it's not loading forget it forget I even said it no well I want to know I've let you all down I've let you all down [Music] yeah um did you want to talk about
Dragon Age a bit we can talk about it but I haven't played it much um I I haven't actually played it all right well I haven't played it a huge amount I'm enjoying it but I guess we could talk about it later have you got have you got stuff to say Luke I've only played the first 10 minutes and then went I need to give this more time and walked away from it that's exactly what I did I'm going to try and play it over oh I need to give this more time I'm going to walk away well I have a pile of other games I've got Grand Theft Auto 5 which I'm happy I brought that from Target when I did because you can't buy yeah do we want to talk about that I think so banned has it there's
Target no the game still available for sale but Target and Kart have pulled it from their shelves because there was an online petition about it was I don't know glorifying violence against is that just here in Australia or is that worldwide because like point out that in other countries Kmart SES guns it's Australia it's just Australia okay yeah yeah a sex a sex worker start a predition because in the game you can actually have sex with a prostitute kill her and get your money back okay you've been able to do relas in everything of Grand Theft Auto game since G Theft Auto 3 yeah look I mean you know obviously we I would don't encourage people to do that in real life but I mean the game's been on sale for for what like how long yeah over a year
now and no one's and it was just one petition and then now Target's like pulling it off the shelves and then Kmart's doing the same thing just baffles me how this is they've already made their money from I don't understand why this is happening they're not losing money they've made their money from the Xbox One version's out now right so or the the next gen one but really everyone who wanted it everyone who wanted it went out and got it two weeks ago when it came I just I don't know it's just such a strange thing like like why the [ __ ] do they care now it's such a weird decision and what about all the other games I mean it's not the only G it's in a higher resolution now than it's ever been before maybe it's maybe they've only just noticed I think a part of it
came from you can actually play the game in first person now ah and so I haven't tried it yet but you actually can pick up a prostitute in game and have sex with her in first person oh okay and I've been playing Grand Theft Auto since Grand Theft Auto one I still have not tried to hijack a car and kill anyone have you well I mean if you play properly you're supposed to try to avoid that yeah but I always go on little Rampages when I play them I mean that's all I do in them really I don't play the for story cuz it's it doesn't interest me I us no I haven't played it since San Andreas yeah Vice City was really good but San Andreas lost me Vice City is probably my favorite in series yeah I mean I prefer the other Rockstar Games you know like red dead
and that kind of the same gameplay but just kind of better stories I I just don't really care what like inner city [ __ ] are doing yeah crimes and [ __ ] I just don't give a [ __ ] yeah I don't know I'm I'm playing through it again I I was disappointed with red dead that you couldn't [ __ ] Prost there were so many prostitutes in that game I don't mean just generally speaking I think every game you should be able to [ __ ] prostitutes I mean there were prostitutes everywhere like every Pub you went into there was prostitutes no joh Maron was a good family that's true that's true well I mean other people did you know murdered them and and and um slept with them yeah cuz there was a thing about Red Dead in particular where one of the recurring um
events when you go into town uh is some guy will be attempting to murder a prostitute and he like for I don't know he wants his money back or something and then he like stabs her and you can either stand there and watch it or intervene and um people were saying yeah but then well there's there's also the mission where that woman runs away and you've got the option of helping her Escape or hog tiing her and taking her back to her abusive husband I mean no I mean I understand the argument but it's a game set in an era where that happened so yeah I don't you know like yeah obviously I don't think people should be going around and doing that now but they did at the time and that's
when the game is set so I know I do but I don't understand you know like can we not we not one thing to say stop buying these buying these games for your children if you don't want to play violent games just don't buy violent games yeah yeah you're so maladjusted that you can't tell the difference between playing a game in real life then just stay the [ __ ] away from him yeah and if you don't want to see a game you don't want to see women being treated differently don't buy a game that's set you know 100 years ago yeah or 200 years ago whenever the [ __ ] Red Dead said like Yeah Yeah by uh Grand Theft Auto where women are treated with utter respect all right okay all right then uh you make you make a good point there um
I would track my previous statement maybe there is a problem now I don't know it's just yeah but it's but there's as a lot of people are coming at saying it's not that game is not it's not about violence against women it's about violence against everyone it's like that hatred game that that everyone got upset about the trailer saying it's it's oh they it's like you kill blacks you kill whites too you kill everybody like they just yeah you kill everyone in that game I don't think that's a good game and I don't think be released but I don't see is particular I can't wait to play it it looks racist or sexist at all yeah yeah I'm going to kill indiscriminately that's the point of it though I know no like I If your argument was that you know killing
indiscriminately is not something you should make a game about well that's one thing and you can have that opinion that's fine but if you or if the game literally go out and kill blacks or go out and kill women yeah that's pretty [ __ ] but that's not what the game is yeah don't misrepresent the game just to to put people off it like if if you've got a legitimate criticism of the game that's good like you know you're welcome to it I just think you know don't try and make it something it's not it's like it's weird we can't do anything anymore Dan no and like quite honestly now that I'm thinking about it I mean like you know not not that killing women is good but like you kill one woman in a game and
there's newspaper articles everywhere every other game that's ever been invented you kill dozens and hundreds of men yeah yeah I know but there is a I mean again this is proba not a discussion we want to get too deeply into but there is an attitude that um White Men Can't Be oppressed or or you know like um discriminated against because we damn [ __ ] right we can't well that's what I'm saying because we we hold the power in the world you know what I mean so so it's it's not the same thing but then that's a double standard sort of so um but like but also I kind of see where they're coming from so it's confusing and I'm I don't like we to talk about this you know when somebody if somebody puts forward an argument that that women
are being discriminated against and you disagree with them but you can't disagree with them because like you're hating on women even though you just disagree with their argument that kind of thing it's like man I agree with you so much that I'm not even going to weigh in in this conversation CU I know whatever I say will uh it will just not be right yeah yeah let's just let's uh uh let's let's move on there must be something else for us to discuss that we can't get in trouble for uh well I finished um well the only things left in the um spreadsheet is stuff about pedophiles and technology or um Matt finishing the walking dead so I think we should opt for that yeah I um I've finally played through season one of The Walking Dead
the game not the not the TV series I've oh I've given up on the TV series um yeah so have I midseason 3 I think I stopped about midseason that's exactly where I stopped well there you go and that's not where it became boring that's just where I became aware that it wasn't ever going to stop being boring and the same thing happened every season with that it sort of gets to the middle slows down a bit then it picks up at the end and it's just nevering cycle so I just went I don't want to put myself anymore yeah I don't care and I'm kind of happy to not care now like I'm not invested in it so I think I'm just going to stay away um but the game uh the game well the games I guess how depending on how you look at them I played through the whole first season
finally I played through the first three and I finished them off um and I like them have you guys played them no I haven't actually um I've yes I've played through the first one I haven't played the second one but I oh no sorry I got up to episode four I haven't finished episode five well I'm not going to spoil the plot or anything but I'll just talk about few things cuz I you know I talked about the Fable game as well um The Telltale Game um I I'll just I guess I just talk about Telltale Games in general I like them but I feel like they're not they're not really adventure games anymore it's a graphic Noel and it's it's kind of like you know you had Mony
monke yeah it is you had Monkey Island right and then they Telltale got the license to do the sequels to Monkey Island and made adventure games based on Monkey Island and that were adventure games we solved puzzles and you had to find you know the key to open the door and all that kind of jazz and and they were cool and then they did the salmon Max ones and then they were also cool although as everything went along they all got simpler and simpler and simpler and now the Walking Dead I feel like every puzzle in that game was basically oh this car's got no Petrol in it look around oh there's a gas can over there I'll put that in the car okay I sold the puzzle like yeah yeah it's and the thing about it is it's not like with the like the sem Max games where you can travel
to different areas you want you're in this area until you hover your mouth over the spot it's fair it's pretty much on Rails like as far as the puzzles in that go like you've got a li like a very limited scope as far as you know like how how challenged you're going to be as far as unless I'm some kind of [ __ ] Adventure game genius and people do you know in which case I apologize but no I just found but in saying all of this it's still I still eny I did I did I just I just I realized afterwards that I'm like this isn't an adventure game it's just kind of an interactive story really like um which is fine it's just yeah it just no I get annoyed with that I I know what you mean and I'm annoyed with any game that does that like if there's a mission and I've got to
actually do a mission fine but if it's just minial tasks that I have to perform then [ __ ] off just let me progress and apparently I mean I don't like I said I only played through it the once and I haven't looked into this too deeply but I've from what I understand the decisions that you make don't actually make that much difference um because I think it just uh it's just who's who Le so I don't know it's just it's interesting because I mean I'm not sure you could alter the plot much in Monkey Island either though to be fair no no no no no no I'm yeah no I'm not suggesting that I'm just saying that they've taken away the puzzles to make this Interactive story where you can control the story but apparently what they've actually done is created the illusion of you controlling the
story when in actual fact not a whole lot changes but then they've done a pretty good job if that's the case you know because cuz I I it does a really good job of stressing you out when you have to make a decision I found like no no no no like like for example all this stuff's going on then it comes up and it's like like you going to shoot her or not kind of thing and it's like oh [ __ ] like I don't know like what do I do and then and like there there are times where you have to make pretty big decisions and and you've got the little timer I mean you've got like what 10 seconds to decide and yeah it becomes very intense and it really does feel like whether whether it's true or not it does feel like like you're making a big decision I enjoyed it it's just I
realized that it's not really an adventure game no it's it's it's an interactive story yeah and that's fine and I'm I'm wondering if tales of the Borderlands is the same I assume it is cuz that seems to be the way they're going and that's fine as I would like less QuickTime events I don't like those they happened quite a lot in The Walking Dead as well and like I mentioned in Fable I got frustrated by them um but I guess I guess I think they're put sort of putting them in to try and keep that as yeah if people like them then fine like don't listen to me if I'm the only one saying it but I just I could do without them if it's going to be an interactive story I could do without them that because I get relaxed
and I'm enjoying the story and then it's like oh by the way mash the button I'm like oh [ __ ] always comes at a time when I'm not ready for it quickly find the keyboard and yep yeah yeah anyway I recommend them if anyone hasn't played them they they are very good but yeah they're not I don't know they're not adventure games in the strictest sense although actually now that I think about it the the episode where there the train had more Adventure game kind of stuff in it so I don't know maybe it's just the episodes at the later ones I really didn't feel like there was much puzzle solving going on and I was kind of just um walking through a movie and then interacting with the people and then stuff happened it was yeah but still thumbs up I enjoyed it oh and the ending made me
very me very upset so good job guys oh yeah it's good as then you were like really moved yeah yeah it did they did a really good job I thought of um well I think i' I know I've got it on Steam but they've just released episode one and season one and two on the Xbox one so I probably consider getting two on the Xbox One to see how it plays because I'm um interested in how how they do it with the controller and plus achievements yes and I've set myself a goal of hitting 200,000 by the end of the year all right of course you have I have 55,000 more to go getting training by the end of the year reaching for that rainbow that's not long that's that's not long and 55,000 is quite a lot you have to buy a few games oh I've got the games oh okay you just need to plan yeah maybe if you were
single Luke [ __ ] good luck Des Destiny the crew Lego Batman maybe if I was signal I might have to yeah oh um any listeners who I mean it might be too late by the time this is out but [ __ ] Packa tickets are on sale go get them quickly hurry if you haven't got them uh 2015 pack tickets I've got y I got mine Dan and we've only got 11 months until we're there what what do you think we'll see if we can get your media pass and then and then you won't come anyway no I'll come if it's for free you still come down for the weekend what and just hang out outside wait 10 hours for you guys to come out and just watch you go through your show bags and then wave goodbyes you go off to an Afterparty I'm also not invited to I'm out
yeah well yeah if you're um if you haven't got tickets yet and you didn't realize they on sale go get them because yeah they sell it really quickly um and there was a lot of upset over the the the Boston one selling out so quickly because they didn't announce get over it yeah I know they didn't announce the time and then people complain when they do announce the time because the scalpers can prepare and then people complain when they don't announce the time because the scalpers get in there because they've been waiting and I don't know no one's happy ever so yeah on the internet nobody wins exactly no but I've got my tickets so I'm happy but I'm really hoping they don't sell more tickets than they did oh agreed because
I think it was a great amount of people this year it was always busy but never crowded you always got into what you wanted so keep it the same as this year yeah I got into Luke yep um so if anyone wants to come get into me just pick up I just checked um all as of today which is Thursday um all badges are still available so 3 days and individual days are all still available so um but get in because it did sell out I think um this year's did so I'm sure it will eventually that's all for this week thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show if you enjoyed it then please subscribe and item to receive episodes on automatically we'll see you next time