PAX Unplugged 2018

[Music] welcome to multiple nerdgasm Welcome to our pxs unplugged episode it's a little bit late and we apologize for that and also I apologize for Jenna's absence she's not well and not able to join us unfortunately however I'm here and James is here and we uh we need to talk about packs unplugged yes yes we have lots to talk about with packs unplugged and for some reason every packs unplugged we have a horrible demo yeah I wasn't feeling this particular thing this year no no and it was it looked so cool so um like I've got the I'm not even going to tell you the name of the game yet but we got it pulled up on the website it's 2017 nominee for the best two-player board game 2017 nominee for the most innovated

board game golden geek nominee International Gamers award finalist 2017 nominee for the best game from a small publisher 2017 Nomine for best two-player game like the thing's nailing it and it was horrible maybe it's us I don't it must be us it can't be us we didn't we didn't demo together we demoed separately oh yeah I know that's true yeah that is true well the game we're talking about is the game that everyone was raving about at packs unplugged uh and it is called fog of love and it is a a dating game where you it's two player uh and you're on a date and you flip cards and you kind of try and I guess form a good match between yourselves or do you or do you like try and meet your personal

goals I guess I wasn't really clear on whether it's Cooperative or not I was just going to be asking you that because like I I I'm not really sure man I don't see this is I think maybe just does yeah this so we played for maybe 20 minutes right I think was about Fair yes um literally had no idea what I was doing the entire time they were running the demo at one point I pick up the stack of cards um and I was like oh what are these for and the woman running the demo goes oh that's how you win the game it's like well you haven't talked about them at all and then she says well it's too complicated so we're not going to show you in the demo yes okay that was this basically mirrors my experience yes yeah so like the part of the game that helps you understand how to play the game

we're not going to show you I wonder the mistake we made was we went on like the last day and so I guess we just they just they were just done with it oh yeah all right that makes sense you think they were just tired of explaining it over and over again we're like maybe maybe I don't although you know thing that happens but yes so fog of love everyone everyone really liked it I I know I just I didn't do it for me at all I actually more accurately I don't think I understood it at all well I'm with you I don't think I understood it um and I'm going to be I'm going to be honest I think personally I'm just moving away from two-player games in general sure yeah um you know when I get a chance to sit down and play games I want to do it with a group of

friends and hang out and have fun and like this this would be a game I sit down and play with my wife but I'm not going to simulate a date with my wife sure well that's what I did that is yeah that is what you did and as usual we had no idea what was going on so just like real life exactly but yeah so that was that was a terrible demo um but we also had I think we had some amazing demos um you walked out with with a game from the con right what you got um uh I got a couple I got two actually I got uh the thing infection at Outpost 31 I almost said 13 but it's not it's 31 which is a game based on the film The Thing by John Carpenter and it's pretty [ __ ] awesome it is it is it was really good I think there's probably the only thing I think that would have made

it better is if they had um like actual pictures of the cast members yes so we played uh Luke gave us the demo he's he works at uh I think Mondo games or uh or maybe even I think Mondo games might just be the publisher but he was he worked on the game and they had a very strange experience demoing the game where a player was very disappointed to learn that there were no pictures or photographs I should say of of uh Kurt Russell in the game at all and then left them a negative review on board game geek on the grounds that there were no pictures of Kurt Russell did not play the game did not demo the game actually got up and walked away from the table when there were no actual photos of Kurt Russell and then felt the privilege that he needed to write a bad

review like as a bit that's pretty funny did do that to someone but then to go and leave a negative review that is very weird and the game was so good yeah it's fun so the the premise of the game is that you're you're part of the team at the at the Arctic station if you haven't seen the film uh you probably should be familiar with the film going in although I guess you don't really need to well no that's you don't need to right cuz Jimmy was playing with us he had never seen the film oh Fair okay the other couple that was playing with us the the girl had never seen the film and they both had a great time they really enjoyed it okay all right well the premise is that you're all at the Arctic station an an Arctic station Outpost 31 uh you discovered a crashed alien spaceship and

the alien has has replaced one of you and you are one of you is is the alien but looks like the human that was replaced and no one else knows who the alien is and and through the game play and the uh scenarios you try to figure out who the the thing is and deal with them and it's it kind of reminded me of uh the resistance but on a much bigger scale yeah like it's the it's the resistance if there was a whole board with rooms and the rooms malfunctioned and then you had to fix the rooms and then you yeah it's it's it's pretty fun no no that's that's a really good way to describe it cuz kind of that that core figuring out who the thing is is resistance style select people to go on a mission does a mission pass or fail but then it's a a strategy of what

missions do go on um and how are you setting that up and then what I really liked about it cuz I love the movie um and I was really nervous that they weren't going to catch the feel of the movie but you you've got it the whole time you've kind of got this nervousness of trying to figure out who is the thing who is the alien and at the very end if you haven't figured out who the alien is and killed him there's a chance for them to win by escaping if they're on the helicopter that leaves the Ice Station that the world's anver like it's done so it was really cool yeah it's fun yeah so I I did purchase it in the end because uh I I I just really wanted to play more I I had a feeling that I was going to like it um but I wanted to play it first yeah you know I it's one of the

things I like about unplugged is that like you can just demo them beforehand like sometimes I see a game I'm like oh that looks really cool and then I get it and it's not so to to be able to try them out and with the designers is [ __ ] awesome awesome no it's it's so cool and then it's not just games like P unplugged is not just about games that came out now right um Jenna got to play the game she's wanted to play since she was what like 5 years old yes and we finally made it happen um they've got a a epic game rental area there uh they they had hundreds of games this year that you can go and check out uh that was probably one of the more exciting Parts but we pulled out 13 dead end Drive MH which is I think Milton Bradley made that back in the'80s yeah and

there's a reboot of it out there now like they they redid the game but we were playing the original um yes someone managed to not break all the pieces yeah they were all there and the game was awesome it was actually a really fun game yeah yeah it's uh it's simple but fun and it's got kind of like mous trap it's got interactive pieces so the premise is that you're all a bunch of potential a to a fortune in a mansion and you control you each control a number of the the characters but you don't really know who who's controlling who and then you want to try and kill people off so that the money ends up shuffling down the line to you and then Escape that's I mean that's the gist of it really but it's got kind of uh you

build the house out of cardboard pieces and plastic pieces and then you actually set off the traps which is which is fun yeah it's like a mouse trap Happ as I mean it's not yeah it's not to the same level as mous trap which you by the time you finish setting up that game you just want to make the Trap work and then put it away but it's it's got that thing where like you know you're putting all the pieces together you're going to watch your school GS and gadgets interact and it's fun just killing people I guess absolutely yeah always yeah no I enjoyed it I uh I never I actually never heard of it uh I guess maybe we didn't have that in Australia but uh that was a fun game and then yeah it's got got re-released so there you go yeah oh I would definitely play that

again yeah it was really good and yeah I guess cuz I remember it as a kid as well I don't ever remember playing it I think for us it was the same thing as as chenna had like our family was never going to get it cuz there there were too many pieces they like they knew we would break it we would lose it we'd play it once and it'd be you'd never be able to play it again y someone's going to swallow a piece of it and then it won't be playable yeah so now that we're um adult children now it's definitely something we can get yeah it's funny how that works yeah it really is so I I bought another game there uh escaton by archon games uh which uh was

kickstarted a while back uh and it's a cult simulator of sorts is that how you would describe it uh you're probably good at you're probably better at describing the kind of game that it is than I am okay let me try so it's got like it's got like a bit bit of a risk aspect to it it's got a bit of okay so take Dominion cross that with um a bit of risk just in in the sense that you're trying to control land and the land your control is going to help give you points right mhm so I kind of looking at that but um The Cult aspect it comes from more of the the Dominion you know deck builder aspect where you're building a deck of of cultist to try and help push your your Darkness onto the world so I do it all the time yeah yeah again like normal

life like that dating game it's like what we do every day just as pack unplugs just mirrors normal life yeah um but yeah escaton was really cool that was a really interesting game um it was fun to play just straight up it was just the theme was really cool the the cards were fantastic I was yeah I was really attracted by the out style it looks kind of like Mike mola's Hellboy kind of stuff yeah uh and obviously that attracted my eye and then I they I learned that it was about attempting to summon you know some old God and running a cult and I was like well I want to play this game now super fun yeah and the repay there's going to be a lot of replayability in that as well um again it's kind of think of dominion uh for those of you who don't do Dominion I

don't know think of something else like Dominion that's not going to help you at all um but because you get to choose what's that Marvel game oh yeah um the one I own uh legendary yes yeah well it's I say Marvel it's they've got one for all of them now they they yeah like pop finals they making them don't they yeah cuz they've got the the same version of that for uh Alien vers Predator they got it for Firefly they've got it for Buffy the Vampire Hunter y not the movie the show yes sorry I have to clarify that I'm a fan of the movie Jenna is a fan of the show well I'm a fan of both you just a fan of Luke Perry I guess I think yeah but maybe I mean I don't know if I like peew Herman I bet I love PeeWee Herman yeah see that's what it is how can you and well the movie's

got RKA so how can you go wrong that's what I'm saying the movie is so anyway sorry okay um but because because it's got the the cultist that you're purchasing essentially right you're going to switch up which ones are down on the playing board so every time you play you can kind of change what that looks like um and allows you to really adjust your strategy on the Fly and have that replayability in there so really fun game really cool game um definitely some PVP action in there it gives you a chance to dirt you know dick over your friends uh which is always important definitely in bold yeah good game it's got an expansion too which um we didn't grabb because we have a habit of grabbing expansion but we have so many [ __ ] games now that we don't need the

expansions if we have a we out a game then then we'll we'll start doing that but yeah we you know what the cons they always have purchased the game with the expansion at at a discount and I always do it and then think oh man like we we have so many games we never get to the expansions I should well I mean between the two of our houses man we have we've been having a game night once a week every week for how how many years now it's uh well it'd be since we since we moved from Australia so two and a bit yeah two and like literally every single week for just over two years and we still have not gone through half the games we own yes right we have infinite games at this point and we keep buying more exactly exactly and you bought a

game unplugged I did actually which I'm super psyched about um yes this is from our boys at smirk and Dagger um mhm those guys are great um and we got to play again with Drew yes Drew we met last year a Pex unplugged he showed his uh Cutthroat Kevin last year yes that was a lot of fun but um yeah so we want to play this game um it looked like it was essentially cthulu mixed with kerplunk uh it's called Tower of Madness and it it has a tower with tentacles coming out of it like like a big tower with tentacles you can't get wrong and a whole bunch of marbles and you pull the tentacles and the marbles drop I mean it is literally cthulu mixed with klun but they never say cthulu so they might not have purchased the rights to that I think cthul is open

open source that's the word uh public domain yeah I thought cthulu was public domain but yeah I'm pretty sure then why didn't they put cthulu well because it's cthulu everything I guess it's maybe it's a bit on the nose at this point to say oh it's cthulu game like there's a million of them I don't know I don't know what whatever it works it was awesome um oh hell yeah so really fun game if you think of if if you've ever played the game Elder Sign um it's similar to that mixed with kplan which basically is talking it's a a dice push your luck game right so you're trying to match dice in order to accomplish a task and if you don't accomplish a task pull the tentacle from the tower some marbles could drop that can make you go mad it could be good for you right like it

could be good or bad in fact if it's really bad it's going to end up being good so it's just it was just a fun game it was actually pretty quick too yeah and it's got some uh you you get like ability cards so you can kind of screw people over uh on their turn and and it's yeah it's it's fast and good and it's it's a good uh high energy almost like like a non-gamer game like you could get someone who's not like super into board games to play it I think well that's exactly why I bought it so I'm always trying to get my wife to play games with me and she hates games um but when I came home and I was likees yeah that's what I said I was like honey you like klunk you like cthulu look they're together and she said yes I'm in so really excited about that um and I

definitely want to thank Drew cuz they they actually pulled one um they weren't running demos at the time when we showed up and he took the time and and brought it out so that we could demo and the one thing I got to say is while we were demo it there were a lot of people stopping by checking out because the game really is gorgeous they did a great job designing it the look The feel so they did a fantastic job all around like you for for those who I mean Google it you literally build a tower and it's got tentacles coming out of it like it's very eye-catching and then um while we were hanging out with them we also went over and we played this weird ass Gingerbread Man game it's called it's got this [ __ ] awesome name roll for

your life candy man it's uh it's like a how do I describe it it's like a frantic it almost reminded me like the franticness of uh of Hungry Hungry Hippos where you're trying to you have to roll dice to see if you can steal the pots of the other gingerbread men like it's a four player I think maximum of four we played with the four of us and drewan and and Aaron showed us how to play and [ __ ] it that was fun that was really fun it was but I think like that hunger Hunger hippos that franticness is definitely there it's you're rolling dice you're trying to match and then you're stealing body parts from other players so it it was it's just fun it's I I would put that down as like a definite game in between

games like you need a break from thinking throw this thing on the table Yeah and steal each other's body parts so yeah big thanks to uh smok and Dagger we really appreciate you taking the time to shows the games Drew and Aaron um yeah we had a really fun time thank you yeah that was awesome guys thank you so much um those were some of the fun chill games now uh we did play one game that you had to think really hard at which I think is why I've lost it every single round I played MH uh Tac from from cheap ass games yeah I was really uh I I got they sent out an email before the show show saying you know oh we're going to have Tac there and I was really interested because I've read um Patrick Roth's books have you have you read his books I've only read one book of his

which makes me feel bad um but it's the adventurers of The Princess and Mr whiffles and which bad book right no it's probably one of the best books I've actually started teaching that in school um oh nice so what like legit yeah like a week ago I got a senior history ethnic studies class I read that book to my senior years we had rug time they all sat down it was awesome rug time nice well Tac is from his uh King killer Chronicles I think it's in the second one it comes up it's like uh they kind of describe it in the book and so I was interested to to actually see what they came up with for actually playing it it's more of a Checkers chess style uh how would you describe it like it looks like a classic game like it's got very simple pieces and a simple board

but it's very I think it's got It's got a lot of depth poent like potentially once you once you learn how to play it I like that play on words it's got depth cuz it's three-dimensional I absolutely meant to uh to go there if you don't know what the game looks like that doesn't help you at all um so yeah it it does it's got that very classic look like a chess like a Checkers um you know it's just two different colored pieces wooden pieces but you can actually stack them on top of each each other mhm think who what would he it's almost like if you took Connect 4 right and you laid it down but then you could stack on top and then you can move those Stacks absolutely and and you can put a block on top that like stops them from

stacking and you can steal other people's pieces in a way yeah so so like take Connect Four but change all of it and you've got tack it's not a good I always feel like it's not I you know when it obviously is the easiest way to describe games is to say oh it's kind of like this mixes with this but then I always feel bad like like um you know like oh you know it's just this and this mixed together like that like you know I feel bad so do I like it's so much more than that like dude T is not Connect 4 Connect 4 is like oh absolutely like all these games like it's just it's just how to find a frame of reference to describe it to people when when we're [ __ ] talking about it on in an audio medium it's like yeah it's tough [ __ ] like really guys if you think of rocks papers

and scissors it's like that but with cards and a board and dice and what was the very first game I don't know I've always actually wondered that um they just they just recently found a board game design in a in a cave somewhere which I forget yeah I keep trying to remember to read the article and then I do stuff and I don't read the article right I don't know I've also got this great book from uh dice tower on uh like Psych ology gaming and stuff which I I want to get through and read but I mean cu the truth is like when you look at the the honest mechanics of games there's only so many actual different mechanics out there sure and so a lot of the games are just how are you combining those different mechanics and how are you theming those mechanics mhm yes so

and that's the only way you can do it really like there's so few that are something new and unique yeah yeah Tac for example right the mechanic and attack is get four in a row right well I mean not even necessarily four in a row but get make a path from one side to the other yeah because the board I think you can choose different board sizes as you as you get better at it so so if you're you know you're making a path from from A to B and a straight A solid path you know where zigs whatever but it's it's very similar to make four in a row make a line make things connection but then it's you know how do they tweak that and and what do they do to make that different and Haack it a really good job of of bringing that and putting it into three dimensions and allowing you to really

play with strategy and make you think hard and I lost every single game yeah I don't think I won a single game either you might you didn't yeah I don't think you won a game but in the time it took you and Jenna to play one game I had lost four okay fair enough so you know I'm just maybe it it's a little above my level I was I was worried that uh because it it had in the book it's described it's the game that kind of everybody plays in in it's like the chess of of the world in the book as I recall someone's probably going to write in and correct me and say that no it's actually only two people play it but but from memory quite a lot of people play attack in in in the wise in wise man's fear I think it's wise man's fear that

it's in the second book and uh so it was kind of like oh I hope it's not [ __ ] because that'll ruin it you know like you know when they trying oh we made the game that they play in that fantasy thing and then it's like oh this game's [ __ ] yeah you get all excited to play this game that exists in this world and it's it's Connect 4 yes but but it's not it's it's actually it's it's very good and it seem I think it it has a lot of depth potentially and uh I think they did a really good job of capturing you know it's strategic and it's but it's also simple and it feels like it would belong in kind of a fantasy lord of the ring style setting because it's not elaborate or you know it's it's not 13 dead end Drive yeah yeah exactly and I mean it's it's got that classic feel

like go chess Malala you know like they're so simple but the strategy is so deep and the only thing it's got It's the the box says and I guess this is the tagline for it it's Tac a beautiful game and that is just so Patrick rothus to me but like it's a little bit pretentious like just a touch of pretentiousness in there yeah but he pulls it off also but also yeah exactly also you be Patrick rothus and you're like no he he's earned it like he's got the the the he he can back that up so yeah if you watch him play D and D you're like oh he he can talk the talk fine you can call fine we'll call it a beautiful game fine well I mean he can he can talk the talk cuz he talks his way into it every

single time one other game that we played that I wasn't super into uh was you've got crabs by uh I guess I guess is the company exploding kittens now it's it's the guy who does the oatmeal uh I guess he does the art for these I don't know what the actual company is yeah it's yeah whoever did exploding kids is it exp I'm goingon to look that up right now yeah I don't know what the company name is because I don't I don't know that they intended it to be a company at the time when they made exploding kittens it was just we're making a board game or card game rather yeah and they I mean they've made quite a few now they've got uh exploding kittens they've got Bears vers kittens and then they Bears vers babies Bears vers babies yeah so you've got crabs

it's kind of like Snap but way more complicated because you've got to collect four of a thing and then you play on two you play on teams and then you've got to come up with a secret way of indicating to your partner that you have for and then they have to call it and the other team can call it as well am I describing that in any way that is understandable I think that was a perfectly accurate way to describe it I don't know if the listeners are going to get it but I got it maybe yeah watch your video maybe and I think it's fine it's just not for me yeah um I don't think it's bad it's just I was like yeah okay I'm I'm GNA go out on a Lim and say it was bad okay I'll I'll take that hard the hate mail if there is any for this um I guess I

just expected more like exploding kittens to me was really fun game um that it had exploding kittens had like this kind of intenseness to it where like it was Goofy it was silly but you were just waiting to pull that explosion yeah um I think exploding kittens is a fun game yeah but so I was expecting that same type of thing and you got crabs was just kind of silly yeah oh and the expansion pack where you have to put the claws the lobster gloves on is that is just dumb like it that I mean it's funny Once like it's not even fun the whole time um yeah so I you know that we with the deck we were playing with had that aspect to it which is like you grab the wild card and if you have a wild card then you

have to wear these crab cloths that the game comes with and when you're wearing the crab cloths you literally can't play the game yeah because you can't hold things yeah which is the whole point of the game like it's funny and goofy but I don't know like I said it's just not for me yeah it Ser I'm a serious gamer I don't care about the interest understand in a [Laughter] [ __ ] H their Booth though was [ __ ] awesome their Booth uh if you wanted to buy something from them they had like the booth was done up like it looked like the box for Bears versus babies where it was all furry and there was like a a window and it was done up like a vending machine except it was just a window and there were humans in there like doing things but they made you push

the buttons anyway and then they would hold up signs that said what they were doing like please wait you know like uh uh dispensing and then they would just throw the stuff at the bottom like you have to hand them the cash through a little slot and then they would throw it at the bottom like a vending machine that was freaking hilarious I didn't even see that oh really yeah someone must have put a video of this up at YouTube so check out yeah look up the the the I guess the exploding kittens booth that PX unplugged 2018 yeah it was like a like I said a fake vending machine with just someone in there pretending that it was a machine it was pretty funny kind of wish I had seen that and you could pay I think you could pay to get like a random item I don't

I'm not quite sure quite sure how it worked whether you had to pay for it or you just got a Bonus like random item and like a woman got a broom and like they would just just some random crap they would dispense it was it was pretty funny like they got a crowd going so those guys know how to do it they really do oh yeah speaking of people who know how to do it I think I know where you're going with this one I'm talking about our friends at Atlas games yep we uh we love hanging out with the guys from Atlas they're [ __ ] awesome and we got to try out we to try out two of the two games actually with at Atlas games and uh and as always I go was to beat Alex from Atlas games we didn't no we didn't this time we got no we didn't

we it was and that that that [ __ ] sucks yeah um but it's okay Alex I know eventually you're going to listen to this I just want you to know I'm putting this out here right now uh on the ride home from PS I designed four different games all about making you lose um within a week win these games Alex you cannot win them you cannot win these games within a week and a half of being home I have one printed and ready to roll [ __ ] off really yeah legit huh we we were going to Jimmy had it with him on uh on Tuesday but I wasn't able s son of a [ __ ] he didn't even say anything he didn't say anything no oh my God you guys could have played Alex can't win that's the name of that game that was

printed Alex just i' known see if I'd known to ask him there's no way Jimmy would lie no he wouldn't Li but I didn't know to ask fck I'll have to tell you next time so listen Alex when I find tun in this game I'm sending it to you the name of the game is Alex can't win we will we will share the game uh when when it is when it is appropriate but we played yeah let's talk about the they showed us yes so uh cogs and commissars uh I guess world domination game of a of sorts you you you're playing as a it's communist robots I guess is the best way to describe them yeah like 1950s communist robots right

and your job is to kind of gain the most followers so that you can uh you can take over the world and every everybody has a different robot uh with with particular skills and you can use that to attract more followers or followers is followers the right word what do you call them in that scenario I don't know a whole lot about communism um you could you could call them followers that would work I mean for this game that that's what works right um cuz it was the the what were the names they had I can't you have the actual game but I think it was like the bis um yes the uh proletariat yes right or peasant I don't remember which uh and then a missing one commas commas oh yeah of course right the yeah the hint was in the name the

whole time yeah it was it's right in the main name um yeah it's it's actually it's a it's a really fun game um yes every robot has uh a slightly different power to it um and then every deck of cards is is tweaked so it was actually really cool is um what Travis was telling us Alex wasn't telling us this Travis was telling us this um sorry it's just my goal in life to throw Alex under the bus as often as possible um that's fair Travis was telling us that like once you start playing the game once you're good at it you actually take the base decks the game comes with and you can start switching it up you can create your own decks um you can do just kind of like a buying type aspect so you can really take the game and get a lot more

replayability out of it by trying to change up how each individual robot is going to play yeah it's like I had a lot of fun with it it's uh it's one of those games way you you really have to screw over your opponents and I always feel awkward doing that at conventions when I'm playing with strangers because I'm socially awkward and I feel like by being a dick to people that I don't know I'm not making any friends so I uh I have trouble with that but I feel like amongst friends I think this would be a lot of fun no no it definitely yeah it's definitely a blast um and that like the the theming of the game is so cool you know like one of the cards is artificial stal intelligence you know they they did an awesome job with this game yeah yeah yeah the Art's beautiful and if you get

the uh the the deluxe edition you get uh The Tokens The the small tokens are worth three one am I talking smallest one going that out the smallest ones are worth one the middle ones are worth three and the big ones are worth five and the the middle one is three times the size of the small one so you can kind of stack them and like it it makes it easier to keep track of how many you have kind of thing yeah no it definitely does it also helps it makes it easier to keep track of how many your opponent has yes when you start important factor they can't hide those commissars from you they do they do that's what propaganda is all about mhm oh yeah and you can play as uh such inspirational leaders as artificial style intelligence simul Lenin or goov brilliant they they really

did a good job man that was such a good game um and then we played another one with them that's I don't even know if it's out yet no it's not it's not and and you know what I don't remember what the [ __ ] name was I was hoping you did no it was it was God's God related yeah the Adas games gods and something something in Gods um mhm Alex is going to [ __ ] nail us for this yeah he really is [ __ ] we you know what I got to look this up um oh I tried I tried the problem is it's not out yet so oh really yeah God damn it did they like put it on their blog maybe I mean look I'll be honest I didn't look that hard but I didn't find it when I looked for it um no there's just some Gloom there's some commas no this is a game that they

just picked up so it's uh it's not available yet it's kind of there I think the game is finalized uh so you can play it but they have it's not in production at all well you know I think it's their fault we don't know the name of it it's not it's definitely not it's it's 100% our fault it's not our fault we don't write anything down cuz if Alex had told us to write the name down cuz he didn't put the information up on the website we would have known you know what the the thing is I bet Jenna knows what it is and she's not here to to help us God damn it she really does too all right well let's talk about the game yeah uh you you are I guess a magic user and your goal is to you can only attack

the person to your left and your goal is to I guess survive until the end and each round you you draw cards and you play cards to gain power uh and play attacks and kind of wear down your opponent's defenses um but also you have to build up defense because the person to your right is going to [ __ ] with you so I was not very good at it was I yeah no both of us atrocious yeah you know who was good at it Alex don't we should probably cut that bit out I don't want to he's going to hear this all right they were they were giving him credit yeah exactly all right you're right right let's rephrase that um you know who was good at that was Jenna yeah and Travis yeah and Travis I

mean Travis is very good at it I bet Travis is probably the best at that I bet he's better than I like I can't think of anyone else who was good at it not a single soul no just uh Jenna and Travis umh and Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy was pretty good and I mean you and I weren't the worst at it but uh anyway we weren't good at it but we weren't the wor there was definitely at least one other person playing that was worse than us some some Unforgettable I don't really remember anyway moving on but yeah know big thanks to Atlas games we love we love hanging out you guys and uh you make some [ __ ] awesome games so yeah you guys really do you make KCK ass games um can't wait to see you at the next con when we get together and hang out again if you haven't played Gloom [ __ ]

check it out it's one of my favorite games if you like storytelling they probably Gloom I mean not problem with Gloom the problem with people is they don't like Gloom sometimes how can you not like Gloom well I think some people don't like improvising and it's kind of like a it kind of is like an improv game in a way with with with prompts the way that I like to play it anyway maybe it's just people don't like playing it with me no I'm like no you [ __ ] tell a story I play it the same way you like the you have to tell a story if you're not telling a story you can't play the card [ __ ] you yeah exactly yeah yeah there was a big change at Pax unplugged this year and I was really worried about it because I really really really like

Chris Perkins as a dungeon master but he's retired from Acquisitions Incorporated and he's been he's been replaced by I mean not that not in a bad this is bad he's been replaced by Jeremy Crawford who's the lead uh rules designer at Wizards of the Coast for Dungeons and Dragons so you know someone qualified but still I I had never seen Jeremy Crawford run a game like that before and I was worried but Jeremy Crawford's [ __ ] awesome he killed it he really did yes and not to you know I I will always love Chris Perkins and Chris Perkins is still one of my favorite dungon Masters he does a [ __ ] amazing job but Jeremy Crawford he [ __ ] nailed it he was funny he was uh he was on the ball he didn't let he didn't let him because there's a danger

that Patrick rothus is going to is going to he's gonna R the whole thing up he's gon to rth fist the whole thing he I feel like he kept him in control pretty well that was good well what I loved is um the one time when rothus really tried right he like really pushed if you ever seen him play he does a thing where he's like oh I'm going to do this thing and I deserve Advantage because and then insert like a five minute spiel about why he deserves Advantage right um Jeremy listened to him and then went with him right saying said yes to the player which is awesome but did it directly in line with the rules of the game and made it truly work based on the rules which was killer so I thought that was really cool it wasn't just I'm going to say yes CU I'm the GM and it

makes the story better but I'm going to say yes because story better also it matches up with the rules that I may or may not be in charge of yes yeah so I like really enjoyed uh because because I love Acquisitions Incorporated it's one of my favorite pots of packs to be honest even even PX East uh which is video game Centric one of my favorite parts of that is Acquisitions Incorporated I've just I've been watching him since P's Prime in 201 I think so when they played with will weaton uh and that was my first exposure to Chris Perkins and uh he will be missed but uh yeah Jeremy Crawford did a [ __ ] great job really enjoyed it some funny stuff happened too that was a great game that was a really good game that was a brand new setting brand new world

yes that was that was fantastic yes he does some good voices and he does he does he's yeah mannerisms and voices and stuff like I I'm into that stuff I think it's it it adds to it and he did a really good job we we always make an effort to go to the penny arcade panels just because I've been a fan of Penny Arcade for so long I know you guys have as well you know even before PS I was I was a fan so we always go to the uh the q&as and the um uh the make a strip uh this year for the maker strip for the first time they they did it's a trial thing where if you donated money to Charles play they would incorporate certain things into the strip like as we were going and I feel like I I don't

know if they made that up on the fly it see like they must have had it prepared because there was a graphic made for the you know for the amount and everything but I guess the point of this was that if you wanted the hot dog fairy to appear you had they wanted to make some lowall at first wasn't it like 500 bucks or something I don't I don't remember I don't think it was 500 was it that low yeah I think it was that low it was like 500 bucks um just to get the hot dog Fair which if you know the hot dog fair is something they traditionally draw in into the panel when they're at cons um but see I don't see how they could not put it in there so they like I mean I what if we had they had made 500 bucks we going to leave the hot dog fairy out of a [ __ ] packs pant I I think they

would have left it out I really do and I'm going to be honest like I'm going to give them credit for it right because what they're trying to raise money for is a really good cause so oh yeah Charles play [ __ ] awesome but um but yeah so they had the super low number uh I think it was like $500 and like by the time they finished announcing how much money they needed to raise in order to get the hot dog fair and they had that money yeah which was then it was upgrade him to a uh Philly cheese steak Ferry for um I think it was five grand in the end was the uh was the goal and which they met so so good stuff I think it's a good way to get people involved I mean I I generally I I mean I give Child's Play uh anyway just because I think it's a really good course for those who don't

know Charles play is the the charity that the guys from P started uh it provides um toys and games for children who are in hospital and uh you know it's it's a shitty place for a kid to be and so it kind of provides them with some entertainment and something to take their mind off whatever the hell it is got him in there so I think it's just a really good cause wait it's not to make a reboot of Child's Play The the 1988 slasher movie with Chucky no they're already doing that Hollywood's paying for that oh this is man I thought that's what they were taking donations for oh [ __ ] oh maybe you can get a refund I guess if you didn't realize I I'll I'll let it go this time all right but at least I feel informed now that it's yeah

sorry actually nonprofit should point that out I guess yeah not to reboot a movie that kills kids yeah it's kind of the opposite I guess yeah kind of the exact opposite uh the Q&A was really good this time too because the for if you don't know about Penny arade then I mean I don't really know why you're listening to this episode uh but um the the Q&A is is Mike and Jerry who founded Penny Arcade answering questions and at this point it's been like when was the first packs like 2009 at least cuz I'm looking over at my DVDs and I have the DVDs from pack 2009 so it's been almost 10 years right possibly has been 10 years or more and they've been asked everything I

think and so the questions this time 2004 2004 according to Wikipedia so maybe it's still 2009 no no no I'm just I just happened to have a DVD of the PS 2009 stuff that I on my shelf that I'm looking at that's so I know it's been at least that but 2004 [ __ ] man it's so long so yeah they've been asked a lot of questions in the q&as and this time was [ __ ] awesome because the questions were so weird like and it was just kind of like really weird and creative stuff like and some of them they just refused to answer because they were just to over the top but it was just like like Sur realist questions like you know would you rather be a this is example cuz I don't remember the specifics but would you would you rather be a hamburger or a hot dog kind of thing like I don't know

it just I found it really interesting really funny and interesting yeah and then um it looks like during the Q&A now half of it is just their staff messing with them oh right like the the phanom of the Opera bit I don't know did that go somewhere that I me I enjoyed it anyway but it went nowhere but I think that's what made it so good it's like yes so they had um they get different colored envelop based on the question that they're going to ask and they had a red envelope which they never had before so they they pull it up and like we don't really know what this is for and they open it they play fan of the Opera music really loud flash the lights and then he reads a question which is posed as if it's coming from the actual Phantom of the Opera from the

Opera Phantom of the Opera um and this happened what three four times yep that we saw I mean happened at other times and uh the last time it just kind of fizzled the Phantom was like all right cool I guess I'm in the wrong place peace and it was over um but the best part was just the confusion on their faces cuz they had no clue this was happening this was a setup they kept looking over their shoulder for somebody to come running on stage dressed as the Phantom of the Opera yeah other than that I mean I had a nice time in Philly I like uh I like Philly is a city Philly gets a bad rap I feel like people often say you know don't get shot but I have so you that's nice not yet not yet no Philly does get not a great rap um but it is great it's got snap Pizza which is

snap Pizza we talk about this last year we must have I think yeah we probably spent like 20 minutes talking about it last year show last year was [ __ ] snap Pizza you went twice this year I did go twice yeah yeah cuz once was not the same day if I recall yeah yeah cuz you guys uh you guys went out to dinner one place that was um so my a couple things going on uh my knee was all messed up this year at pack so I was trying to reduce walking and I had a ton of work to do so I was trying to get that done in the in between time um so the main group went off to dinner far away and I was like I'll just go around the corner and get a burger and I went to The Burger Joint and the line was like 10 people long like I don't want to wait that long so I walked half a mile

to snap Pizza instead cuz cuz that took less time I guess it's so good I don't know totally worth it we did we explored uh we explored a bit more of Philly this time uh than I had before went to some It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia related sites like Patty's Pub the the one that apparently it's based on they claim the pub claims that it's the pub that it's based on so I guess I have to take their word for it and it's called patties so uh yeah had a nice time saw I saw the Liberty Bell again I've seen it once before you know it's a bell it's a big it's a big Bell did they ring the bell it probably said that I didn't stick around yeah I don't know man I'm going to be honest I'm a history teacher and I I don't I don't know it's got a crack in

it yeah okay cool yeah I don't think they ring it anymore yeah you you don't want the crack to get worse yeah yeah that'd be bad then the Liberty Bell would be broken and then there'd be no more Liberty oh [ __ ] that would be bad for America oh is that how it works yeah I'm almostly so no I'm not going to go there I was going to make a joke I was going to make some kind of stupid joke about ter blowing up the Liberty Bell but that's we don't we don't need to go there I mean you can make a stupid joke about Trump being our President and the the [ __ ] that's going on but like that is ever going to happen oh wait never mind yeah exactly most of your listeners are in Australia right uh yeah yeah although we're we're we're spreading out

actually WR in let us know where are you from listeners let us know we got I think we've got a bunch over here now cuz you know we hit these conventions up and harass people yeah that is true but yeah uh I mean Philly is awesome um you guys also went to that that really cool store the um the like weird collectibl store yeah uh odity something Oddities uh it had a bunch of uh dead animals and stuff which is neat and uh gothy weird [ __ ] I enjoyed it it's uh you know kind of like uh there's there's a store here in Providence that's sort of like that but on a much smaller scale uh this one was like it had all you could buy human skulls there like real human skulls for real yeah oh you guys didn't tell me that that's awesome and I was going to I

was going to ask where did you get him from but uh but that's not a question you ask no but the girl was really scary looking and uh and I also I don't think she would have known the answer cuz she just works there I don't know where they get them from but uh I definitely want to make an ashtray out of one at some point even though I don't smoke that that would be the appropriate thing yeah yeah we can use it as a dice roller [ __ ] man that'd be sick dude I want to bring one into school put it on my desk and just like label it students who turn in assignments late that'd be awesome I take one into work and just say people who ask me dumb questions podcast listeners who don't go to patreon.com multiple nerdgasm and and give us

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