Pub-Desking: Death Stranding 2, GTA VI Trailer & Toxic Avenger Unrated

Australians are recording and it appears the witnesses have spoken. We're going to be opening up our Minecraft world to the Witnesses. Welcome to Multiple Nerdgasm with your hosts Matt, Luke and Dan. Multiple Nerdgasm, Your guide to all things nerdy. Yeah. So I had one contact me directly. Matt's had a couple contact him. I don't know if you've had any additional contacts yourself. I haven't. Actually seems. Like.

Playing. I need to get back into it though, but I do need to tell people. You've had at least one strip mine because there's some big holes in the ground. Yes, that that used to be completely flat, flat. And if you actually look at the other side of where it is, there's like a little jagged edges that what I turned that shrip mine into, that was like a little Canyon that was about two peaks spaces wide that just went down. And I just turned that into a shrip mine. But then the slime, the slime

started appearing and it was, you couldn't mine it anymore. It was quite depressing. Let me know if you find any fucking iron ore. I'm I'm looking for iron ore. I'm looking like a like a motherfucker. I can't find any. I promise I will be getting back into it, especially now we've got Witnesses, but I do need to let them all know when playing vanilla. There's no mods, there's no creative, it's all claws to get me to play. I still need to be able to get achievements. Yeah, it's funny because when I

see people online just posting pictures of their games, I'm like, that's no Minecraft I recognize. No, it's. The Minecraft we're playing still more or less reminds me of the Minecraft we played ten years ago. Yes, there's just some more things that have been added, but nothing, we're still just mining and building stuff. I forgot two things. I forgot how tranquil it was. When you're just the music's playing and you're just wandering around, you're on the beach punching sand or whatever you're doing.

It's very tranquil. I also forgot how fucking addictive it is. Like I just lost hours. Just that's true mine because I just go in. I just try and find stuff. I'd go back, I'd put it back in, I'd try and like melt the iron down, give it to everyone. Did you go back every time, like every night? Yeah, yeah. Yep. Because I didn't want to. Lose once yeah, once I got away with staying in a mine overnight like I I was just like, I guess I was just luckily safe, but every other.

Time the mind you. Can not only. Lose track of time because the monsters are there no matter what. Yeah, Oh yeah, man, I found a cave. I was out in the day and I found a cave and went in and there were fucking monsters in there. I was like, oh, this. I don't remember this from the game when we were playing just. The second there's no light, there can be monsters. I also don't remember it being quite so difficult to get rid of the monsters during the day. Yes, I kind of remember just daytime came out.

They all started to explode. Now it's like if they're under a tree. I'm fucking safe here mate. You come, just wait for you. You walk near this tree, I'm coming at you. Just walk a little bit closer. Yeah, yeah, but be close enough to bits of your house so the bits of your house blow up too. Need to expand the fences out I think. Yes, that's right. That's what I'm trying to do. Very frustrating, but I've got putting pretty nice house near Matt's pretty nice house, and I've got a little little cubby on the other side.

Did you do another mine? Because there's another big hole far away and I didn't know whether that was you doing something on purpose or just a big cave in. Sometimes there are mines where I've just been that may have been where I've come out because I'll just go down mine and I don't go back the same way, so I'll just mine out. Well, there's a little, there's a little cubby over near that. So if you ever do need shelter, you can. You can. Hide it so I know that one of the times I was mining up and then I had to abandon that

tunnel because it started to flood because I dug up under the ocean. I tried to flood something and found it difficult because I tried to dig a Moat around my house and I find water. I don't want to sound flat earthy but water just didn't find its own level. Like I had to keep digging down on an incline for it to keep moving. In that you got to work out, you got to work out how to get a source block so you can do your own source block. But I don't know how that works either. Even when we did play Minecraft

10 years ago, we weren't particularly great at it. No, but I remember it was easier to like you could just pick up a bucket and go and get water and pour it anywhere you want it now. Well, I mean, maybe it's that easy still, I don't know because I don't have any fucking metal to make my bucket out. I will get you some metal like. I'm in the stone. I'm literally living in the Stone Age. I'm still annoyed I haven't come back in since there was the catastrophe where I lost all that diamond and iron and gold. It's just, it's too depressing.

Yeah. Walking around like a for. Sure. Iron diamond armour, it's going to be blinged up and. Oh man, I'd feel I'd I'd have to start playing completely differently if I had diamond armor. I'd have to be start playing very very cautiously compared to how I play now. Oh no, that's the whole idea. You're meant to be that little bit stronger. Just don't jump into lava. Yeah, yeah, I knew this would happen too. And I held out coming into this Minecraft because I saw you and

Matt had gone in there and I knew you were having fun and I was feeling FOMO. But at the same time, I wanted to finish Resident Evil first because I knew if I got sidetracked from that. You can't go back to us and. Go back to it. Because even if you did go back, you'd be what was I doing? What are the controls again? But I didn't. I didn't get there in time. And now, not only have I started playing Minecraft, but I've also started playing Oblivion. That I cannot stop playing Oblivion at the moment. It's just too beautiful.

It's I even love how you can just because I'm, I'm, I am speed running it a little bit like just using fast travel everywhere because fast travel is open from the start, which is great. Right. Yeah. So I'm just jumping between towns like I'm already head of the thieves Guild. No, I'm finishing the thieves Guild. I'm I'm part of. I'm head of the dark Brotherhood and I am the arch mage. So now I'm working on becoming, oh, I'm also the champion of the fighting arena, and now I'm

going to become head of the Thieves Guild. I think contests the combat isn't quite as good maybe as Skyrim's combat, which was it to be expected, but quite honestly just about everything else is as good, maybe even better, better than Skyrim. Yep, not loving it. I know Matt's loving it. Matt's not here, by the way. Matt. I hate Matt here. Matt at the moment. I think he's at Gay Pride USA is. He is that where he is? He's at PAX West. No, PAX East, Yeah, where I want

to be. He's having fun. It's a big pax too. They do a lot of stuff, a lot of more corporate stuff there as well. It's not all you know, but yeah, I'm, I'm having a bit of FOMO. Looking at this because they don't, yeah, they have a bit more there because they don't have to fly as much out as when you're coming to Australia, and Australia's a long way from every. And their local, yeah, they've got a bigger local scene as well, so yeah. Yeah, but yeah, so that's where Matt is.

I hate him because he's having fun at PAX and I love PAX but we're going in October and he's going to miss out so. That's right. Although he's welcome to come, I keep telling him he's he's more than welcome. Please come, it'll be fun, yeah. Yeah, you got your badges. No, I won't get the badges for ages. No, but you've purchased. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely day one, get a three day pass. Yeah, I got it. Then hopefully we'll get media passes, but I'd never, I'd never go yes I will get them. But when I do get them ready

passes, then I'll give my three day pass away to a listener. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. Yeah. Matt. Yeah. When Matt said during the week that Oblivion was better than Skyrim, I was like, OK, settle down, boy, settle down. But fuck me right from the start. We'll see, you know. I have a few. I don't think it's the fact that's better. I think it's just the fact that it's something different. Yeah.

Like we've played Skyrim how many times it's. Almost like this is Elder Scrolls 6 because we played Skyrim for so long so many times. And we've repurchased it so many times. And you replay it. You know how it starts, you know what you're doing. This, I don't quite remember it. Same, same. And I remember some things about it that it'll not what I'm doing. I must have played it completely differently before. But yeah, I there's been a few times where I've had to go.

How did I do this again? And back then when this came out, there was no quick Internet search for how what this was. Oh yeah, a few times where I've just got a bit lost. Hold on, where am I going? What was I meant to do? Yeah, I'll say this too. I like, I like fantasy novels, right? And you know, sword and sorcery, all of that stuff. I read a lot of that stuff and I like it when they do films in that genre. But honestly, there's not many good ones. Yeah, there's Lord of the Rings, there's the first Conan movie,

there's one or two others. But really, I mean, there's some so bad it's good, like Beastmaster, which I love, but I'm not going to say it's a good movie. But games is where that genre fucking lives. Yes, because I'm not with movies, television, I don't, I don't do fantasy. I don't really get it. It's Dragons and magic like the closest I get. It's like the Discworld TV movies. That's because I like Discworld, and I think that's more comedy than fantasy. Yeah, I should go back and watch

a few of those actually. It's been a long time. I enjoy them, I pop them on every now and again. Yeah, and even Witcher, I love the first season and I just, I just got bored after that. And isn't there, there's the third season's out and 4th is yeah, that is like. Out 4th is yeah, coming soon I. Guess I dropped out of halfway in season 2. Maybe I'll go back. Maybe I'll go back. And it wasn't because I didn't like it. No, it was fine. It's just season 1 was fucking compelling.

And I still say they had to do one thing to fix season 1 and have what type what what what period it was what year like am I in the future of the past because that got confused let. Me know it was it. Yeah, yeah. Agree. Agree. I mean, it blew my mind once I realized that's what was happening. Yeah. Then I was lost. I was like, well, hold on. Well, I don't know anything now. And I still still say she was hotter before. Yeah.

Unfortunately transformed. 100% Speaking of hot women. And look, I hate to bring this up. I hate to bring this up because I don't like objectifying women. I don't like judging women on their looks. But I've got to say we've talked about Sidney Sweeney in the past on this podcast, right? And the whole Internet. Sidney Sweeney, Sidney Sweeney, I finally saw her, finally know who Sidney Sweeney is because I was with people and we watched some dumb movie she was in which is set in Australia and was fucking garbage. But what my main take away was I

don't find her precious slightest bit attractive. Yeah, I'm going to. That's fine. I I don't get it. Perfectly good actress and I'm sure she's a lovely woman, but really like the the internet's going fucking crazy. Well, is it OK? Is it the other thing though? Because a lot of famous actresses don't have, I'm objectified, don't have the biggest breasts. No, I know. Yeah, I'm reluctant to say this too, but it must just be the tits, right? Yeah, because that's the the

thing that that I think anyone focuses on when they do show stuff at these. And again, like, I hate even having to bring this up. I hate even bringing it up, but I just don't understand it. Like I said, she may go on to become my favorite actress. I'm not ruling that out. She's she's she was perfectly good in the. Film, but she just doesn't do anything for you. Yeah, maybe I'm just out of touch. We're definitely out of touch that, I mean, I'm not getting anywhere close to touching her. Well, truly out of touch.

Yeah, the other. Thing but also the other thing is it's like how old is she? Like maybe you're just tastes are starting to get to an option. Maybe if I saw her mum I'd be like, oh. Yeah, Oh. That that is definitely that's that's could well be a factor. Something hit me today. We could move into like a senior's retirement home in 10 years. Yeah, it's so funny because my mother-in-law is, is is really. Which you really should be considering moving into. Yeah.

And she's putting up one hell of a fight. And my own grandmother put up the same fight. Fucking take me. Take me. I'm ready to go. I'm ready. Let me go there. I can just. If I've got access to a fucking electrical port and I can plug in my TV, my laptop and my Xbox. Computer Xbox, like frigging, and then you're going to cook and clean for me, Yeah. I'll ring a little bell, you bring me a cup of tea. I'm ready now. Yeah, I'll still go to work.

I'm still fine with that. But yeah, you just do it from your. Mate, I could, I could do it from there. I wouldn't even have to leave the ground. Like, yeah, so I think, I think that's the thing you need to do earlier rather than later. I also I also thought we mentioned before recording my wife has been in Argentina this last week for work. As you do and. She she visited the grave of Juan and Eva Peron and I was like, oh, OK, that's nice. And is that, is it a nice grave? She said, yeah, it's beautiful.

And they're side by side. And I'm like, should we start thinking about like buying a plot? Like, you know what I mean? Like. Well, have you had the decision? Are you being buried? Are you being cremated? The. Conversations that need to start happening, you know? Yeah, I've got a little man. Yeah. Well, with that we've done, we've done that when when she was born, we did proper wheels and that was. They and me and Harper are going to have so much fun once we take

you 2 out. That's right. Yeah. Speaking of of body image, building on from the Sydney Sweeney but changing direction, did you see this British pop star male pop star that posted a before and after fitness picture online this week? No. OK, so I don't know his name, so it it it might lose its validity, but and in fact, he didn't do it. His personal trainer put it on and said, look at this transformation. And basically in the first one, he's standing there with what

you would call a dad bod, but what I would identify as being definitely more in shape than I am. You know what I mean? Like just good, good muscle and you know. Probably good starting point. Yeah, good starting point and the next one ripped as fuck. 6 full 6 pack everything you know, starved starved of moisture anyway and. They're trying to say this is after one training session, no? No, no, no, no. Nothing the the the trainer put it on and he was like, you know, after six months or a year or however long it was, Look at

these results, right? And all of these guys are commenting fuck yeah, bro, go for it. You look so good, right? And all these women are conscious anything shame. You look pretty good before. I'm not interested. Right. Well, that sort of proves the point that you're doing it for other men. Right. And we've talked about that before, but here's The funny thing, it 'cause you can and I'm fucking, I'll put it in the show notes because I wish I could remember his name.

But below the comments that the women are making, the men are arguing back. Why are you lying about this? You obviously prefer the RIP, so why? Why can't you just admit it now? And they're like, what would I have to gain from lying? On on like yeah, this post like I'm I'm just giving my personal opinion. I prefer you. I prefer you put before pics. Yeah, yeah. And when I looked at it, I mean, I had a different reaction because I was like, well, even in the before pics, he's still in better shape than I.

Like you want to get to the before pics. I would, I would aspire to that. And the other one, I mean, if I ever found myself in the position of that, I'd just throw out all my shirts right in the bin that day and be like, forget it. You're you're everyone topless from then on. Yeah, exactly. So I couldn't even dream of it. But just the fact that men just don't believe it when women say no, no, we just want you to look healthy. Yeah, we will tell you what you think is good. Yeah, that's right.

Exactly. Yeah, Yeah, it'll feed your opinion to. You. About. Us. That's lovely. Still hate the Internet I'll. Fucking loathe the Internet. But I can't get away without it. No, we wouldn't have this show without it and we wouldn't. We could. We could still record it and then we could just play it back for a select few people that came around our. House like when we used to film stuff. Yeah, we have the VHS that you'd

pass around. Yeah, my favorite part about filming those was not even that it was before you that we'd film it and we'd be so excited. We'd go back to someone's house and just watch what we just filmed out of, you know, just just unedited laugh. Laugh at our takes. That was the fun part. That was the really fun part for me. Yep, I missed that. And then I just, I just love. The thing I really loved is that all of our stories have videos. Like there's such back story and all this stuff that we just completely ignore.

Yeah, yeah. We really didn't make them for viewers, did we? We make, we just. Made them vacuum ourselves, which I see is one of my favourites. Yeah, there's a whole elaborate story how he's escaped from the city and it's a futuristic city and he doesn't matter. Nothing. No. In fact, we don't even say it's a science fiction. No, the fact that he's like escaped from this futuristic city back into the wilderness, it's like people are like, did he just go to the western

suburbs? Is that what this is about? But it was so great. Yeah, it was and they rolled in for his clothes, which which can happen in the Western. Suburbs or. At least could back. In A and he deserves it then. Yeah, you should. That's nice. And Jason Anderson needed to die. Yeah, in every, in every film we made. Yes, right. What should we do next? Are you still playing Death Stranding? Did you complete Death

Stranding? No, I I need to go back to it though I've I've got to the same point on 2 playthroughs of one on Windows 1 on Xbox, but I still I want to go back and finish it, but it's. Is there a particular reason you're stopped at that exact point? Is it a difficult point or is? It it's not difficult, it's just I played the game wrong. I played the game trying to deliver everything and you can't play it that way. OK, OK. So I do recommend when you do start playing it, don't try to excuse me, backtrack and pick up

every single piece and get you don't need to. OK, OK, Will I instinctively know which things I can ignore or? Yes. OK. And you, it's one thing I quite like about the world sort of grows a bit around you because it interacts with like other people in the world. So it's not multiplayer, but you'll be able to use other players stuff. OK, OK. So you might put down like a ladder to get across a river or climb up somewhere. And then as you play along

further, you might see other people's ladders are now there and. Right. And that's interesting. It's interesting. And you give them you give them a thumbs up. Yeah. Thank you. That's great, That's great. There is a sequel coming. Yes. Coming this year I believe. Which sort of came from nowhere. But suddenly people that are beta testing it have starting putting their reviews out and what's shocked me is that part of this is set in Australia.

It is. Yes. Did not know that because the first one is basically you travelling across America. Right. So I don't know if the whole game or just part of the game, but people were like, man, future Australia is fucking bleak. And I'm like, oh shit, yeah. OK, I'm more, to be honest to play this one. You can go into the Outback now and and pretty much see this. Yeah, it's very, it's pretty Mad Max once you get out of the cities. The problem is I don't know when

we'll get to play it. Yeah. Because it's going to be PlayStation Five first. Of course, and in Australia, giant pole, the capped mountain in the middle of WA. I just got back from there. Blocking you from progressing across the country. Yeah, so at the moment it's only coming to PlayStation Five. I got a shock when it just randomly released last year on Windows and came with achievements and everything and then they just released on the Xbox. So it will come. I think it'll probably will

probably have to wait a year or so though. Sure. Sure, you rescue a kangaroo from a Bush fire. Now that's not quite what you lied to, Skip and Smith. No. I lied and said I rescued a koala. That's pretty close though. I did just have a quick look. One of the biggest reveals, one that's largely been kept hidden today, is that the game is largely takes place in Australia. Largely takes place in Australia. That's fucking right.

Yeah, I reckon I should have a Fallout set in Australia. Definitely, yeah. I mean, the Mad Max game was basically Fallout. Yeah, Australia with cars. I wouldn't make another Mad Max game. I enjoyed that game. I enjoyed it too, I really did. Yeah. I like going around building up the car and trying to get your car and driving it around it's. Yeah, it's like all instead of, you know, be getting pieces of armour for your own outfit, Yes, you're just getting it for your car. And you're trying to save up

money and scrap to upgrade your engine and armour and. No, and and it was one of the next two driving games I'm actually not bad at. Because there's nothing you can really run into. Crash into yeah. Well, no, it didn't do well at the time. I think it had did well later. Right, but I got the. The the. Steel. What do they call that? The box that's made out of it looks like it's made out of metal. That when they used to do physical copies of things

anyway, the special special edition box of that. Oh, you should steal tin. Steal tin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Back when you used to go and get the special edition games. Back when you actually used to have to pre-order games because you weren't guaranteed getting it day one if you didn't. That's right. I know. Oh, so yeah, Speaking of just the fact that that games are digital now, right? So I wanted to buy Mario Kart. Yes I figured my daughter's probably old enough to play Mario Kart now and I bought 2

little joy con steering wheels. Just the handheld ones, not the not the desk mounted ones. And they were super cheap. 15 bucks for two. Yep, Mario Kart is fucking $80.00 and I was. Thinking. Well, I don't have to buy #8 I'll just buy #7 fuck it, I'll buy number six. No, you can't. They're gone. The only way you can get them is if you buy the the that's an. Old physical copy and I couldn't find them anywhere. Yep, Nintendo aren't great with no. You bought a new one.

Yeah, don't worry about the old one. And I was like, I get it, you know, I do get it, I understand, I won't be too angry about it. And I've already had $80.00 worth of fun, so who cares, right? Yeah, but it's the same thing. Like when you get the Switch to, you're going to be buying the same games you've already purchased. Just. Yeah, what Nintendo do they're good at. Yeah, but I'm pretty good at holding off on stuff like that. Xbox I always want the the newest console straight away but

Switch I think my current Switch will do me for a little while longer. Yes. Yep, especially with who's playing it mostly. Yeah, well, man, it's funny though, I had to, had to. And I, I guess driving isn't instinctual for kids, even though they watch the parents drive because I the first lap she did of Mario Kart, I'm like, do you think turning the steering wheel makes your car go faster? And she's like, yeah, I'm like, right, that's not it. And that's why you're not doing well.

Just just turn it when you want to turn the car. She's like. Oh, I remember, I forget who it was. We had this buggy thing like it was a full beach buggy car. I had my I feel so my nephew or my niece on my lap and steering it and they could get it like I turned. So I turned the wheel and I want to go straight. So I stopped turning. No, you need to turn back. Got to keep. Turning. Yeah, like you got to get the wheel straight to you. That's not just because you

stopped turning. Class stopped turning. Yeah. Funny. Yeah. But they were young and. Yeah, and actually once it clicks in them, they're they're fine they. Pick it up quickly. Yeah. But yeah, we went. Remember, we had to go through all the tutorials when we were young. Now we're hate them. They still need them. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And yeah, these things are just intuitive to us now too.

Yeah. And I was thinking about the other day, you know, we talk about tank controls, like for example, you know, we talked already about Resident Evil, but also every, every game from PS1 era. Basically with your silent heels and all of that, you had to turn to face a certain direction, then you could press forward. It occurred to me recently that kind of actually is still what you do. It's just that you've got 2 sticks, so you can do it simultaneously. You can still only go the direction you're facing.

I think it's just a little bit more of the sticks. It's easier to do because. You could do, yeah. And you could. Do both at the same time. But where's it right? All D paddles? No, I have to turn. Especially since he would react and just keep trying to run but like no I'm not towards him. What are you doing and? Then you run back between screens and oh. Yeah, I mean, that was that was the worst. I mean, it looked cool. It looked fucking cool. It.

Did, but why was? It impractical. No, I can't. I don't think I'm going back. I need to go and play Resident Evil 2 and 3 because I've got there I really. Liked Resident Evil 1 and I forgot how much of what I liked about Resident Evil was there from the very start. Like you love the terrible voice acting? No, I mean there's hardly any voice acting in it. Even in the remake that's still really bad. I don't know why they didn't fix that completely. I think there's still suddenly

the charm of that. I mean, it is right. It's, it's Japanese voice actors talking like they think Americans talk, Yes, and but just, but you're on your own for 99% of that game, just fucking walking around in the dark. And there's things that you find early on in the game that don't pay off for much, much later. You think you're finally out of that mansion and then you've got to go back in. But this time you can open. You've got a different key that can open the rest of the doors like it's it's really good. The design of that game is fucking incredible.

The limited ammunition, like sometimes you might have a lot and you go, no, I'm going to hold on to it because I don't know what's coming next and. Yeah. Just done so well. Oh, the the fact that you can only save as the typewriters, but also only if you've got ink for your typewriter. That would not fly today in a game. No, but it makes it thrill. And you can't drop items. So if you've got a full itinerary and you see something you need, you can't drop something. If it's bullets, trying to use

it or shoot them all out. Or yeah, or you've got to try to use it or take it back to a safe room and put it in your stash and. Then come back for it. I don't remember that. That would be terrifying. Yep. No, they definitely will not fly today. I I think if a new game came out today, I don't think it'll fly with me. I'd be. I don't have time yet. But I don't know. Fucking charming. Pretty good. But I remember, like, President

Evil Two. Yeah. Because you did the two sort of playthroughs, you sort of had to decide when to leave stuff. Yeah, You took everything on your second playthrough. There's nothing there. That's right. Yeah, that's right. So good. And then they got not so good, and then they got really good again. I'm glad they're good again. Sort of same universe, same story, but not. Yeah, yeah. I don't really understand what's happening anymore, but they're

still saying it's the umbrella call. Yeah. Umbrella doing it all, but what are they doing? Why? Harvesting your DNA for stuff and yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and it's not just zombies now, it's all sorts of fucking things. Yes, there's sort of zombies, they're sort of human, but not. And they can talk, and right you go away, Cat. You mentioned before still going to work while you're living in an old folks home and I pointed out they still work from home.

Have you heard of pub desking? Because this is now a thing in the UK, no pubs are offering. You pay a fee, it's £15 apparently and you can sit in the pub all day, you can use their Wi-Fi, you get a lunch, beers are on you whenever you want. And you can quite a good deal. It's certainly it's less than a Wework, that's for sure. Yeah, I I don't, I did not see a problem with this at all. And I think it just should take off over the world. Not be trusted with this you. You are not allowed to participate. But why not just?

In general, generally speaking, I think this is a good idea. Because why not? Pubs are normally quiet during the day. Yes, that's right. Yeah. I'll have like this peak periods of lunch and yeah stuff but. You know, and you might be tempted to be like, I might just go play the pokies for 15 minutes. Well. Remember, they don't have pokies there. Yeah, they've got the fruities. That's true. That's true. A bit like a poker machine, but

not. But they'll only have like one or two they don't have in Australia. Like we've got the pokey room. Whole room? Yeah, yeah. Or in my local club, a whole floor. But somehow it's still a smoking floor. Yeah, I guess they figure people won't leave if they're allowed to smoke. There. But The thing is, they're not allowed to smoke inside. They have set it up somehow that it's technically outside. But it's not.

Yeah, funny. And I don't know how to get away with it now because they're just becoming more and more rooms. And I don't know how you can justify like if it rains, no water's getting in at all. No, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If I'm not getting water, it rains. I'm. I'm not outside. Yes. I Speaking of smoking, I was in Perth and I was meeting up with friends from Singapore and in Singapore cigarettes are still 9 bucks a packet right? So smoking is as popular there now as it always.

Was and it was 50 plus. Indonesia, Indonesia, everywhere around it, they're $1.00 packet, $2.00 packets. How do you think they're smoking here? Well, so I warned him. I said look, listen, I've seen cigarette packets approaching the $50 mark, all right? So just bear that in mind. And I think you're allowed to bring 2 packets into the country, one open, one unopened. Right. And they're like, OK, so they were, they were, they were expecting the $50. They came back $75.00 for a pack of 20 fives.

What? Marlboros $75 Oh. My God. Remember how much we used to smoke? Imagine if we had to pay $75.00 I. Smoke. I used to smoke 2 packets a day. That's $150.00. When I started smoking I would get change from a $50 note for a carton which is 8 packets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember one time I went to a pub to see a band and I was broke. At the time I was student. I had a dollar coin on me, so I put the dollar coin in a pokey.

I won $10 and I took that out and I was able to buy an expensive packet of smokes at the venue from a cigarette machine. Wow, yeah. So I dread to see how much they would cost. Yeah, I haven't even seen a cigarette machine because you maybe they're banned now because. No, no, they're still, I've seen them around. Don't look at them, but they're still at like in poking machine rooms and stuff like that where they want you to. Don't go too far away from here. Yeah, yeah. 75.

Dollars $75. Pack of 25 what is that? I'm trying to do that. Yeah. What is that? Because I remember like it used to be a dollar a dart. And and but that was a lot like because we. Used, that was. Yeah, that's you. Yeah, it's $3 each canal. Jesus, that you're just setting on fire and it goes away. But God, I would smoke tomorrow if I could afford it. No I I lit a citronella can I I cooked pizzas outside tonight in my BBQ because I bought a pizza stone so I essentially.

Because it's not cold for some reason, even though we're, yeah, we're about to hit winter. Oh yeah, I know. I'm fucking. It's perfect. It's perfect right now I'm loving it. But I'd like the citronella candle. Keep your bugs away. Put the lighter in my pocket. Later on, I put my hand in my pocket and I felt the lighter and all those memories started flipping back. Like just feeling the lighter in your pocket, remembering. Just take it. Oh, Yep, it'll be the first

thing you did, the second you got in the car, the second you got out of a car. Like the first thing you did whenever you got anywhere was light up. First thing you did when you got to a train station. First thing you did when you got off the. Train. If you had asked me how long it took to walk from my house to the Warrington County shops, I would have said 3 cigarettes. Yep. That's how when I was working, that's how long I judged my break. Yeah.

Like a quick, the quick morning tea, that's two smokes. And then your lunch you got like if depending on if you're eating lunch or not, you've got three to four. Like, that's just, yeah. Yeah. Well, oh. Man, we were really playing fast and loose with our health though, weren't we? But as I. Can't say we didn't know it was just. Oh, we all knew I I still say you only get cancer once and I'm still so I think I would be fine. Hopefully that is the case for

all our sakes. What that I took the cancer hit for everyone. No that you can. Only get it once, once you've had. Enough cancer in my family as well, so if you don't get it again and no one in my family. Gets it again. I'll be fine with that because that sucks, but yeah, we just didn't care. No, we didn't care. Hell, I started smoking at a canteen event. That's so. Hilariously ironic. Yep, that's where I started smoking.

I actually started smoking because I remember the exact moment I started smoking and it was out of spite. It was because you, me, Dave and Gareth now, sorry listeners, we're getting so specific now. Went outside. I, I left school the final year, did it somewhere else and so was AWOL and they came back and you were all smokers at some, some point during that time, you'd all become smokers. And we went outside and he's all lit up. And Dave was the only one who had a packet. So he he took one, he gave one of, he gave one to you.

And they turned to me and goes, I'm not even going to bother offering one to you. And I'm like, think again because fuck you. Don't you assume I'm not? A list offer. Yes, give me the opportunity to turn it down. If you'd offered, maybe, I'd never would have. Started you probably. Would have started out of Smite. I've been thinking about how much money you spent over the years that's just you just set on fire. Yeah, but it wasn't $75 a packet. No, no, like I quit.

I think when I quit it was like $15 a pack. Like I didn't get to yeah, too much higher after that. I'd I don't know how how could people afford $75.00 because. I remember when I came back to Australia 2020 during COVID, I was, I'd technically quit, but I'd still like to keep a pack in the house and they were $25 and I was like $25 for 25. Cigarettes is a lot of money, but it's rocketed since. Then yes. So just stop smoking everyone. Actually, they keep smoking. It goes to taxes that pay for services. Actually, it's really just

paying for them to go to hospital. It's a lot of tax. But it's also paying for us to go to hospital, so. It's not a tax, it's excise, OK, Just like a tax. I don't know how it works. No, but yeah, I just, I'm jealous of people who can do it. But I know if I was to I'd be straight back to two packs a day and that's just not feasible. Certainly not now, no. Yeah. And also at our age, I just don't think our bodies could take that anymore. No, literally just breathing tar for when you're young you can

get away with a lot. Yep. But look, let's get away from the cost of smoking it out. It's terrible for your health. Yeah, yeah, well, just while we're computer game heavy episode, but that's OK. Yes, in GTA6 we've discussed the release date changing last week and since then they dropped another trailer. They went. Sorry about that, but have a trailer. Now I famously don't really enjoy the Gtas and I haven't been excited about one for a while, and I'm not going to say I'm excited about this, but

after looking at the trailer I can see where the hype is coming. From yes like if this is what it's looking like now and this is just meant to be playing on an Xbox PlayStation like it's not yeah high in PC and they've said it's. Roughly 5050 cutscenes and in game in this trailer. I know a lot of people were complaining. Oh hey, it's not gameplay and stuff and sort of like. Apparently 50% of it is. No, if you actually if you look at GTA5, the cutscenes didn't really just we're just gameplay just.

Yeah, I I I appreciate when games just do their cutscenes in the same style as. The game, yeah. And game just looks beautiful. I just, it's amazing what they're seeing. Where the guys carrying the six pack of of beer and you can see it swirling in the bottles like it's such an amazing detail. And I think that's why it's sort of taking another year. Yeah, fine, keep working on it. I'm going to play it. I'm not going to pay 120 bucks for it when it comes out, but yeah I'll pay $70.00 for it in a year after. That once it goes on sale I will

be spending 120 on it and I'll let you know. Yeah, I'll say this. One thing I don't like about the GTA is, and this is just me personally, I don't like organized crime. I'm just not interested in it. You know what I mean? I've seen The Godfather. I liked that. Yeah. I just don't watch a lot of mob movies. I just, I don't like that culture. But this looks like it's just a bunch of couple of junkies trying to fucking get by. I could I could maybe get into

this. Yeah, like they're just a couple of people. They're Yeah, not the greatest. Yeah. Out there just committing crime, just a Bonnie and Clyde type of thing. And it's not really. I'm much more likely to play that. Yeah. Mind you, that's it. Mafia. Old world, Old country. Oh yes, looks. Pretty good. That looks pretty good. Have you seen that? Forward to that as well.

I just, I like those Mafia game. I like, I like these games. I just enjoy them. This one looks great if listeners if you haven't seen it, it looks like it's set in like old Sicily, like turn of the century Sicily. Yes, rifles in the back of open top all time. And we might actually get a release date for that soon now because GTA 5-6 is gone. We're not releasing now. Yeah, yeah. Don't do it. Going to take a sigh of relief and put their games out. Yeah, because like Mafia, that's would have been direct

competition with GTA6. Like it's the same open world stuff and it would lose. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's been and scheduled for release August 8th. Oh. There you go. And it's almost June, so that's actually not. That's not that far away at all. Excellent. I will be buying that day one as well. And if remember, if the Internet hadn't complained at the start of the Xbox One I could have, then I could lend you that copy

as. Soon as you had finished with it, Yeah. That's why we can't have nice things. Because that's thing like they've said, you'll be able to sell your games and learn your games. The only caveat is your console had to connect to the Internet once a day just to check your licenses. Don't you fucking dare look at my license. So funny. I just I just I just as far. As I know my Xbox is connected to the Internet at all times. Yes.

Like why was that a deal? Yeah. I think at the time there was like DDoS attacks, DDoS attacks happening, and people would supply that would have trouble, But it wasn't like they were having trouble for days. They might be a few hours where something was happening and when you'd log back on and you can play, it would check your license. Yeah, yeah. Like it does now, except now we can't share it. Yeah, yeah. It was going to be like a book. Like you couldn't both play it at once.

Yep. So if you had loaned it to me, only I could play it. When I loaned it back to you, only you could play it. And like if you bought the game from, it wasn't even going to work with purchase discs. So you could buy the disc, the license will be on that disc. You put it, put it in, you would install the game. That license is now there. You could not didn't have to worry about putting the disk in the plate anymore. But if you gave that disk to someone else, that license would go with that disk. So you wouldn't be able to like

also going to be great. Yeah, that's a well thought out system. Isn't it Bring that back. Yeah. Because then I could start lending out some of these games I buy. Yeah. Well, maybe start selling it. Reminds me of when Napster got sued by Metallica back in like 2002 or whatever that was. And, and they're like, we're not, we're not breaking any laws. It says here that you can, if you buy ACD, you're actually allowed to copy it for your own personal use and share it with

close personal friends. It says it right there. And we just allow people to share this music with millions and millions of their closest personal friends. Not quite. Good try, yes, but I remember when Lars was done. We need to go into everyone's house to get their computers and that's, yeah, their work. It was, it was a very large thing to say yes. I mean, they did wait. They they won the lawsuit. They won the lawsuit, but I don't think he quite understood what the lawsuit was or how they won it.

Was. Yeah, yeah. Excuse me, because I think he thought he was going to be able to suit everyone who'd done it, not just. Yeah, What have you seen? Now that remember a little while ago, I forget what the movie was. There was a movie that came out and the studios were going to sue people in Australia for it. The party, right, Yes. And the judges can't like do not send out any letters until we work it out. Because when I went to court, it's like you're asking for a lot of money.

They download like a $40 movie. Like where are you getting this figure from? And he said, so don't send anything out. What we're doing is they sent a letter out. He went, well, just to throw this out to court then. So, so because it's also not the person downloading it that is the person that's pirating, it's the person who's making it available. That's right, although if they're not making any money for it, you could also argue that it's not piracy in that strict sense either. It's not like you go to Thailand

and you you buy a disk. Yes, and someone's making money. That's piracy, right? Yeah, but I think the problem is is because they still went ahead and sent out letters and were asking, I think they've made it harder for them to try and bring it back around to do what they did. Anyone else? Did you see that class action lawsuit for Apple with the Is it Siri or the AI? Whatever the fuck. That is, Oh yes. Apparently you've got a certain amount of if you're in America and you've you've purchased something during that period,

you can. Join it, cash in. Yeah. The well, the The thing is with those class action lawsuits, you might get a few dollars. The lawyers are going to make and the people who started are going to make a ton of money. You'll get a couple of dollars. You might, if it's easier to sign up, do it, but you're not going to make. And also when the update comes out in a year it it'll update on your phone you'll get just calm the fuck down. Like they basically didn't do it because it wasn't ready. Yeah.

And so they basically got look so if. You bought a phone only because of that feature? Like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, I still, I don't use the AI on my phone. I don't. I have only just I still don't use Siri because here's garbage. I've started using. I've actually started using chat ChatGPT more than I use Google Now for just querying things because I find it, it, it, it's a better filter when it. But Google's AI is quite good now too. You know the first.

The first answer is always the AI answer. Well, Google's still the only one that understands my spelling. We'll see. I've started using the speech. Just pick it up, hold the thing and just go. What, what is, what is 148 grams of flour in teaspoons? And it'll tell you, you know. Well, I actually, I'm using, I'm using the copilot a lot and I'm starting to like that and I'm going actually going to the thing I saw that they've got a thing coming up in Canberra to go and sort of get a hands on. It's going to be, I think it's

going to be interesting. That would be interesting. Going to have a bit of play with it, speak with Microsoft people you're. Not saying anything specific. Are you allowed to use copilot at work? Sort of. OK. Are you trialing it? Is that the sort of Yeah, OK, because I they've recently blocked everything. Yes. And yes, I want to experiment more than I'm currently allowed to. Yeah. The problem is you have, and

this is at a lot of people's workplaces is they don't understand that you can't share everything with it because. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless you get it set up correctly and you have information stored where you want it stored. If you're just using the public version available and you're putting stuff in, you're putting stuff in that's now available to everyone. That's right. And most users don't understand that because it's just because you'll put that in there doesn't mean it's only going to use that for you.

They'll take that information to learn. Yeah, yeah, that's right. But I the, the possibilities, man, I, because I, I work in a design studio and the, I was chatting with guys that work in the public sector design and they basically teach ChatGPT, their brand guide and then route it through Canva. And they use, they design through text prompts. You know, they'll say give me three options of how a corporate cover might look like and it will always be on brand because it. Instead of you're printing. What?

Yeah, this is This is how the basic stuff. And then you go and. Make it into the filters we're giving you. Essentially, yeah. There's some incredible it's. So easy and quick. It's it's scary. Yeah, so there's one thing ChatGPT has changed recently you're not allowed to do. And when I tell you what it is, you're going to say we'll do, and what were you trying to do? But I'll explain right. So were you trying to make it racist? No, no, you can no longer ask ChatGPT to generate realistic

pictures of children. I'm just thinking that's a good that's not there. I can understand why I wasn't there at the start, but then because you're not thinking, you're not thinking about the terrible people out there. Yeah. So what I was specifically trying to do, I have, you know, a handful of pictures of me as a kid, not too many. I don't have any pictures of me using my old computer, playing on my old consoles or any stuff that relates to like the stuff we talk about. Right. Yeah.

And I had this brain wave that I would just feed it in a few pictures of me as a kid and say, recreate some false 1980s pictures of this kid in a bedroom playing the SNES. That would be great. That would just give me so much joy to look at. And it's like, no, you're pervert. No, who is this kid? Because it's a minority that ruin it for everyone. Like you have those few people that just. Do horrible stuff. I googled it and evidently, yeah, it was fine for a while. If you if you'd had that idea

earlier on, you could have done it and but then. People abused it. Somebody abused it. Yeah, Yeah. And yeah, in church UP want nothing to do with that. Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah. In fact, you can't even like everyone's making cartoons of themselves and stuff. It'll do that. But if you give it a, there are third party apps that can do it that clearly don't have the same practices and standards. But if you ask ChatGPT make a picture of me doing this, it'll say I can make a picture of a

person who resembles this person doing that. No. But will be changing enough that it's not that person. You want to hear one of the horrible trends that's happening on only fans at the moment? What do I do? I want to. Hear It's nothing to do with children, but and it's probably not the models themselves. You know how there's like modelling agencies and managers that go do stuff. So what they're doing here, taking the models, they're putting a down filter face on them and they're trying to

market it that way as well. Like just because I have Down syndrome doesn't mean I'm not nasty. And all this stuff to try and get, and it's posting these things like social media to try and get people to go to their only fans accounts really. In a million years, I couldn't have predicted that that's what you were going to say. Fuck, hell I saw Mosh Critical put a video out on it today. What for that? Are there people out there going I just want women with Down syndrome? I don't know but there's even one that's like.

So there's definitely like only 6 known cases of like Down syndrome, like a. An actual person. With dwarfism. Oh, sure. And but what there's now claiming that they're now the 7th so they can go to their only fans page. Dwarf with Down syndrome, what's her name? I didn't get any names, but yeah, it's just, that's why seems to be working, because it's not just one person who's done it, it's led to a lot of people doing it. Like, are you on Instagram still?

I know you're not big social media and I'm less and. Less I've sort of gone off it because it's not pictures anymore. No, no, it's all memes and ads now. But I also like just because you fit the bill you get, you get like these I guess influences, for lack of a better term, push towards you. And I've noticed that neurodivergent IE autistic people and now like a trend on like only fans and stuff too like. The amount of people who have faked that as well. Bet.

But for some reason, and I can understand that because it's so fucking trendy right now to say that you're autistic. I'm autistic, I'm fucking taking off my clothes. Like why do you? Why does it need to be autistic? If you want to see tits, just go and look at tits mate. Tits. Tits are fine. They don't. Sydney Sweeney's putting them out there on the big screen for you. Yeah, yeah, but that's just we, I don't get it like but yeah, there must be a market for it. And I don't know if you do have

Down syndrome, maybe start an only fans account because. Yeah, maybe. I mean, that's a market. Who knew? Who knew? No, I didn't. I didn't know. I don't go on only fans though. Neither do I, but I also don't go on any other site going sexy Down syndrome girls. I don't really go on any site looking for sexy anything. I could find it without looking for it. Yeah, I also think we're too old. I think if we were younger and had more free time, maybe that's

what we'd be doing. I think we did a bit more of that. You know, Matt used to have his Tumblr of just girls that look like Pixies, so maybe. This is, well, I think when we really had that stage of trying to find that stuff, it was back when it was dial up, he said. If they would just load slowly and then you got to wait. Yeah. Did I download a good picture or not? Because. Yeah. Like because always for top. Up breasts, Why are you loading from the ponytail?

Yes, like I need to if I wasted my time because all I had was a text description of this. There was no thumbnail, no. That's right. Yeah. Video. What are you talking about? There's no such thing as video on the Internet. No. You know when that serves around when we're doing that, like it'll take like 5 to 10 minutes to download a song. Yes. Oh yeah. I used to put like 10. I used to line up 10 songs to download, then go to bed, bed.

And in the morning three or four of them would have downloaded properly, a couple of them would have been corrupted and given my computer a virus. And then the two would just stuck at like 98% because no one was seeding. Yep. You don't know how good you got at people. Actually, we don't have other people listening to us. No, we don't. We don't. But I always do think too, like I'm constantly annoyed at my television right now because it's it's I mean, my TV is a computer, right?

And it's a, it's a computer that's on the Internet and it takes computer TV shows from the Internet and plays them at will with very little restriction. And yet I get so annoyed when it doesn't work right. And I didn't get annoyed at my fucking 14 inch CRTS television that I used to have when I was a kid with only four channels. 4 channels just with ads that you can't it. Wasn't good if the ad you just put up with them. Yeah, there was. Yeah, there was no, there was no getting angry. That's just what. Television was like the picture

would never quite be perfect on one channel and but if you moved it and wrecked the other 3 so you lived with that one. Exactly. You just knew that ABC was going to be in black and white because if you moved that thing, channel 79 and 10 would be fucked and they were the important ones. Yes, God. All right, let's move on. We're just stuck an old big. Oh yeah, well, here's another old man thing. But we're we're we're getting close to moving over to the after party. So before we do, I did want to say that the Toxic Avenger, did

you see the teaser trailer for this that came out this week? It didn't give anything away, but what we did get was the news that it is unrateable. The what is it? MPAA have refused to classify this film. Right. Oh, and really? Yeah. So it doesn't mean it can't be released. It just means that it limits where it where it can be. Yeah, it's like getting a cinema release. Yeah, that's right. But it was Australia released. Aware, yeah, they've deemed it

unreleasable. Not safe for market, right? I want to see this. Because it contains ultraviolent toxic content, mutant nudity, splatter, monster corps, and piss play. I'm so happy they are releasing it because this has been. Yeah. Sort of been hiatus on the chopping block for quite some time, I know. And I want to see it because I want to understand why Peter Tinklage agreed to do this. But don't get me wrong, I would agree to do it. I would love to be in a Troma movie.

I don't know why an established. Well, that's the whole thing that is wants to be in one officially a Troma movie, is it? But that's, well, I didn't think so. But this teaser trailer, which again, it doesn't give anything away, it looks extremely poor. But we've yeah, like with this platter laughter monster court like this is that's Truma. Yeah. I thought it was going to be like a dialed back version of. Yeah, I mean, it's even worded like tremor, right? You know what I mean? Like it's like like how they would would have said punk rock

bandits, toxic sludge explosion mops. All right, I mean, I will be seeing this movie. Yeah, me too. But probably not in cinema see though, because I don't think this. I love this. Yeah. Ever been a non rated movie in Australian theatres? No that I can in. Fact, a lot of theaters won't even play R rated movies. Yeah, like a like. A lot of I think that's changed a bit now. Yeah, maybe it was like Deadpools and.

R True. Yeah. When I worked at the Hayden Multiplex, if something was rated R, it just would not be played at our cinema. This was this was just as MA was coming in too. So just before MA came in, it was basically if it was M, it was fine. If it was R, forget it. Yep. But yes, no, this is going to be a great, I hope it's going to be a great movie because I like the talking avenger. Same like I grew up watching this. Probably should not have been

watching this. Definitely shouldn't and they but they marketed to kids. It was an R rated movie and they made a spin off cartoon of it. Yes, I. Had action figures from it. I've got the action figures. Oh. Sweet. But even with it wasn't sex. No, it was just. Kind of like violence. There was never nudity or anything. It was. I mean, there was. Some it was heavily hinted at. Work walking around. Yeah, it was sexy ladies and

stuff, but I mean, there was. Even in the sequel, I mean it was like he gets his blonde girlfriend and. Blind girl, Yeah. She could she like short dress and everything but it was never nude and there was a big like sex scene but you didn't see anything like it was all. But what gave it the AH was just violence and blood. Yeah, yeah, I might go washy original again. Yeah, I might too. Was it the second one or the third one where they went to Japan? I remember liking that one. I only found out recently that

the second and the third one were meant to be one movie. Oh, they were meant to be 1 movie but they actually ended up filming so much that they had to split it out because they just kept filming. That's a. Great cheap way to have two movies for the price of 1. Yeah, but also, it's not like they're making a ton of money either. No, no. Very popular in the cult world. Yes, you know. We all knew about it. We all rented it. Yes man. And I got into like, I remember

once I went and rented Tromeo and Juliet. Yes. James Gunn. Directly James Gunn. Boy, he was famous. Because he wrote that, I think. Yeah, but the guy behind the big, huge fat guy behind the counter at the video store was like, do you like Trima? I'm like, yes. He's like, great. I like Trima too. Let's fucking talk about Trima, you know, and it's just now this guy's my friend. We both like Trima. And he'll let me rate rent any R rated movie now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Locally so. Video source did not care. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen them look other people back, but I think I used to go in enough that they were just, you know, you know, and I. Think also I think they knew our parents too, like this community, you know what I mean? I'm like, I know your dad is like. Yeah. I'll ask him. Next time, yeah, you got some just random kid that's come in and or when your parents have been here, they've only let you

get G movies like when your parents are here, they're letting you get this, so you're fine. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Oh, fuck my my mum cared. But my mum wasn't the one who drove me to the video store, My dad the one who took me to the video store, and he had no limits. But even if we look at like we spoke about a few weeks ago, I think like RoboCop, like with that traumatized us a little bit like with the acid of the getting splattered by the truck and stuff. We should not have watched back then, but.

No, no any. And like when before I moved to Penrith, when I lived, when just in Warragamba, we didn't have a video store. We had a petrol station that had some tapes that you could rent and it they did not give a shit about things. But also, I don't even know if these had ratings on them because these were all like martial arts movies from the Philippines and shit like these were low quality schlock. And my dad was like, take what you want. The the at my petrol station video shop it was, I can't remember the price but you got

them in groups of 10 so they would give you a box. God. Shit, 10 tapes and you could just wander around, fill the box with 10 tapes, take it up one week there's. Your yeah that they were not giving you real movies. They were. That was dodgy as hell. Great movies, fucking ninja movies and shit that I just fucking loved sword fight movies and. Yeah, if you're getting the box just 10 at a gut time that they're they're not worried about, they're not worried about if these are real or not.

No, and I wasn't worried and for some reason my dad wasn't. But look, we've come to the end of the main show I think, so we should get a head up to after play soon. But still, if you do want to be join our Minecraft server, reach out. I don't know if we're just open to everyone or you need to be on the Patreon as well, but spot us on the Patreon at least, yeah? Please, maybe we should. Maybe we should say it's just the the lowest tier, the one doll. It's here in the. Patreon One Doll 2 will get you on Minecraft.

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