Nature’s Pocket: Chewbacca Mask Lady & Stairway to Heaven Lawsuit

it's podcast time welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt it's all a bit hearty so I don't really understand it Luke is that a little s penis damn I accidentally got soap in my urethra multiple nerdgasm your guide to All Things nerdy that time again actually we're actually early this week are we we're not early we're on time well we're on time we last few weeks we've been late the audience listeners wouldn't know that but we have been late the last few weeks Once Again Luke you could have just not said anything and no one would have known I know but I just I I like to share with them they don't care what they we record it they just care that it

comes out when it's supposed to I assume listeners if you do care let us know I mean I don't know why you would that could be an interesting thing to learn yeah learn and then ignore of course CU quite honestly listeners I mean I respect you and I I value you as listeners but if if you start weighing in on like what I do on recording day then I'm just going to have to ignore you like if people start asking me to wear pants this just isn't going to work yeah yeah is it not too cold for nakedness down there I mean down in camera not down there the amount of heers that I have on it's actually quite toasty getting a sweat on some of those hand warmers and just have have them in the pockets yep and I meant like Nature's pocket what what is Nature's pocket

Nature's hand warer sorry what pocket do you have on your body what are we talking you're afraid of the answer M you don't want to know okay just just leave it did you order a new a new butt plug a warming butt plug is that what this is I bet is a warming I'm got to look at that butt plug I have to play the jingle yeah play the jingle MADD why not why not you to sex to news sex to news shopping and um I don't think well the warming up that I found isn't the warming up that I was looking for so you you just mean warming things

up sexually oh no no I bet to actually just have like a pretty much a mini heater Fe your anus I would insert what I found is uh like when you're warming up and it's important to stretch I see you heard it here first folks in in other words Luke just so I'm clear what you found is a slightly smaller or let's say Slimmer butt plug that's for warming yourself up like a taper for your yes exactly but I think there is now a market for selling a heated but plug interesting well with a multiple nerdgasm logo on it obviously of course I wonder if that could be a good idea for some merch yeah oh well we'll look into it well we do have a we do have a friend at who manufactures butt plugs in general now the maker of the um the magic plug I

still can't find it I don't know what I did with it oh man don't worry luk what goes up must come down you didn't put it in a guest and then they left it's possible there's a lot of people here yeah it happens I showed you guys a video uh just before we began cuz you hadn't seen it yet I'm surprised that you guys haven't heard about this cuz it's she's been [ __ ] everywhere and it's actually to me Matt and I think your everywhere is different to our everywhere just quietly I would not have heard of this except it was on all the news websites you know uh maybe a month or so ago and then on a few podcasts people were talking about it as well and I'm talking about the chewbaca lady the the lady with the Chewbacca mom I think they call

her the woman chewbaca mask she's just a woman in a car yeah no I think she is a mom but anyway the she's she's now very very famous for some reason right well because of this reason here 6, 700,000 views yeah that's the reason and that's not even the original the original was on Facebook where it just went viral okay yeah the original has 158 million views I mean just looking in the sidebar here we've got her on the James Cordon show we've got her on Good Morning America yep um it's ridiculous so but I mean that's fine I think making the most of her 15 minutes of fame is is fine except like it's gotten silly now because she has got her own action figure from Hasbro well that's [ __ ]

awesome and I want to know how I get my own action figure well you just have to be is this an official Star Wars actually you know what've we've gone too far into this because I'm assuming that like two3 of the people in this podcast most of our listeners have no idea we're talking about right okay well we'll put the link in the show notes it's a video of if just a woman in her car and she's bought the Chewbacca mask that makes the noise right and it makes mark because I now want one when you move your mouth it makes noises and she puts it on and she just loses it and and just starts laughing hysterically and she can't stop and there is something a little bit endearing in just how much she enjoys the fact that she's got a che that makes a sound a funny video I'm not disputing

that but now like I said she's got her own action figure and it's chew Barker with her head on it well that's not right that's actually completely the wrong way around it's like a 12T tall action figure 12T it's not 12T it's 12 in tall it should be her body with the Chewbacca head that's yeah that's accurate yeah they've dropped the ball so that's that's Hasbro have made that for her and not only that and I thought this was a bit cheeky oh my God it's in the official Star Wars line of toys yeah yes that's what I mean it's it's a bit weird what in the actual [ __ ] not only that she's turned up at the Dallas Fan Expo right which is like a comic you know y uh you know it's an expo and she's charging people 20 bucks for her autograph wow in a booth next to uh Jack

Leon Joffrey from Game of Thrones like she thinks she's on she's one of she's one of them now she thinks I find her slightly less irritating than him but are people paying it though well they must be I mean look some of the proceeds go to charity but uh but that kind of just means that what didn't she kept so good on her because in about a week's time everyone's going to forgotten about her to milk this while you can I just I I agree completely it's just when I saw that she has an action figure like an official Star Wars action figure I was like what world are we living in totes jelly let's be honest that is yeah I I would love to have my own action figure but but also I mean has I wouldn't want to be chewbaca I'd want to be an X-Wing outfit like were they just cashing in on

this as well they're like people will buy this no no this is just a oneoff it's not they're not selling this right this is just hey come with us from free advertising cuz this is AD she's advertising their stuff yeah that's fair they've made her her very own custom action figure was a gift they presented to her yes that is a fair point because I just realized how many of those [ __ ] masks she sold for them no doubt yes so well she's just sold exactly right I think they're sold out everywhere damn thanks to Chewbacca yeah they have chewbaca Mom the thank for that so I can see her yeah take the toys she's also got I find this part a bit crazy she's got $500,000 worth of cash and gifts and college scholarships for

her whole family what people are just that's I find bit crazy I mean look again good honor but yeah [ __ ] world thing I can understand Hasbro going oh man you have sold so many of these on our behalf here's an action figure but what university went well because you wore a mask on the internet and laughed at yourself I think we're going to put all your kids through college yeah she's obvious she's going to pop out some Smart Ones we'll give them all scholarships it' be a crime not to give these kids an education do they need publicity for for colle colleges I don't know what college I don't know it just says college scholarships in the article H for the whole family that's so strange good onor it's a bit Oprah isn't it you

got a college scholarship and you got a college scholarship such a such a weird thing to it's our turn to get a college scholarship it's not that viral videos haven't happened before some of us actually went to college l oh it's not like viral videos haven't happened before but this one just struck me as like a bit over the top she's just getting all this stuff and it's like wait a minute like did she do something that I've not heard about other than just put the mask on and laugh but you know what this goes to show because I seem to recall several years ago uh Star Wars boy using his lightsaber uh ridiculed and bashed so much because of that video that you know a bunch of people decided that they should give him

a bunch of free stuff everyone feels better about themselves and now you can actually just famous cuz you have a mask yeah no one's teasing this woman no I don't think so I think she's doing all right it's not like she was hurt in any way by this I don't think doesn't seem like it no and if she has she's hurt all the way to [ __ ] college cuz it literally happened overnight she posted the video on um Facebook live like she was just live streaming to just her friends and somebody shared it and then it got this got shared to the right people that it it went insane wow like you couldn't reproduce it if you tried it's just one of those weird things that happened and so she had not literally overnight she woke up in the morning and it was like [ __ ] you're you're world

famous well I guess that's how it happens Chewbacca mom not Chewbacca's mom as Luke thought at first when I put the article in there well that's yeah first thing I thought what's Chewbacca's mom's name I can't remember she's in the holiday special no she's not that's his wife oh that's right and his Grand his dad right I not sure if it was his dad or his father-in-law his name's it stin something a waste of time fantastic piece of Cinema lightning in a b again this year they captured lightning in a bottle sure moving on from that we know any other the Star Wars related stuff I mean I don't think we do actually this this they leaked they put out some photos from Rogue one this week that included one photo of a stormtrooper

holding a little Stormtrooper doll which I thought was confusing yet adorable I noticed they said um the the director GTH Edwards came out and said no no we always plan to do the re- shoots yeah well I mean I would expect him to say that but yeah that's fine well you don't expect him to come out going we made an absolutely sh boy did I [ __ ] I had no [ __ ] idea what I was doing I'm surprised they're even going to release this whole [ __ ] I know tell you what instead of watching this go back and watch The Phantom Menace you'll thank me yeah yeah I Thea camera pointed the wrong direction the whole time it's just two hours of my eyeball I love that they still they

still edited that down to 2 hours see what we can oh this is useless they were like well let's edit this we can we can still hear the audio Yeah in some spots if you crop it just right you can see the reflection of what was going on in his eye through the lens and out the viewfinder reflected in his eye yeah yeah yeah I've not used one of those cameras before you probably noticed what they doing old timey they're shooting on film for these well at least they did for uh old timey someone's there cranking it well I mean it's it's a machine cranking it but it's one of the few cranks that happens these days well they did Force awakens was shot like that right that's that's what I mean

that's what I'm trying to say starting with that they're shooting yeah that's interesting they started the middle finger at George Lucas that was with that yeah back to film poor George do recall there was a Star Wars figure with George's head on it yes there was Stormtrooper body George Lucas's head and now I think it was a celebration St celebration exclusive and now he's just looking at this [ __ ] Chewbacca mom going what have I done no he's just making movies for his friends he's just eating noodles in a food CT in Adelaide so weird that he did that I mean I haven't even eaten noodles in a food cord in Adelaide no why would I way too important for that all right so we don't have much more Star Wars news um we have I guess this is followup

from something we disc there some Star Wars news oh is there sorry not real Star Wars new just something I found out a little while ago remember there was meant to be that cartoon series called detours oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah evidently that was done and made and they have all the episodes finished but they're not going to release why cuz it is it [ __ ] don't know huh it was cuz remember they announced that years ago yeah and you can go on YouTube and see the trailer for it and everything and then just never heard anything about it again I think it was at the time where it was being sold right yeah cuz it didn't I remember it didn't I don't think it looked very good it looked like just Robot Chicken but yeah it cuz you could it was them doing

the voices yeah yeah but just animated evidently they did finish it it's just I'm the only person that doesn't get Robot Chicken I don't get it I've seen a couple of them that I thought were funny but in general it's not my favorite I it's it's not even one of those ones where I'm like okay I I you know I get it but I'm just not laughing like I genuinely don't even know where the gag is most of the time I'm like sitting there going [ __ ] missed something the funniest the Star Wars one I liked and because there was that one sketch where it was the guy in the Cantina and then his friend's like he he doesn't like you and he's like well that's not what I said and he goes I don't like you either he goes what are you doing man just calm down These Guys

these guys are all right and then everyone cuts his arm off and he's like Jesus Christ and then it cuts to him at work and they're like well you I'm afraid we're going to have to let you go um if you don't perform your duties and he goes home and his wife leaves him a that was funny and there's also that one where Darth Darth Vader keeps altering the deal and it's just Lando freaking out and we had a deal yeah I am altering the deal he just keeps doing it that made me laugh no actually and there was one other Robot Chicken unrelated to Star Wars where it was this little kid and the and a girl like a boy and a girl sitting there playing action figures and in the boy's imagination they like fly off and they have these adventures and it goes for quite a while they're having

these weird adventures and then it cuts back and he's like lying on the floor convulsing and she's like call an ambulance okay except it's probably that with Seth Green's annoying voice so I just can't get into it yeah well that's fair I just find the episodes are too short they go for like 12 minutes or something and I can't be bothered sitting down for that so short of time I'm not going to sit down if in 12 minutes I have to get back up again the problem with it is it's not funny because it's not long enough yeah or okay it's like that Woody Allen joke about the two old ladies eating dinner in a restaurant and one of them says see the food's really disgusting here and the other one says yes and in such small portions

anyway I don't know what this podcast has become but uh I know all right look we got some followup on something we discussed a while ago about lead Zeppelin uh in case you worried about them I was a jury has decided incredibly worried they did not rip off Stairway to Heaven from another band am I the only one that's a little shocked by that no cuz I do think they had a case there based on what's been happening lately with with the Marvin Gay thing the fact that the the Gay's estate won that case and this guy didn't win this one is baffling to me yeah like I don't understand here's the thing like the fact that this band sued Leed Zeppelin 40 years on and just want some cash well after the guy who actually

wrote and played it had died Marv G is dead as well but what I'm saying is this this is a good sign for the the I'm I'm pleased that this is the outcome considering all the [ __ ] that's been happening I'm happy I'm shocked but I'm happy yeah absolutely I I just thought based on I thought the case against um was it Robin Thick was was weaker than this case like musically like listening to the two pieces of music in this case instance I was like oh they're pretty similar whereas in the other one I was like no not really yeah but not up to me no no it's probably just better lawyers in this case yeah yeah but as the lawyers come out and said I think the jewry knows that no band invented the [ __ ] a minor diminished scale it's like well yeah you know and and they said oh but

we were touring with them when they ripped this off it it doesn't it sounds similar it sounds as similar as any two rock bands who are on tour who probably Jam together every night yeah are going to sound like like my thing you had 40 years yeah to bring this up yeah if you don't do within the first I don't know 10 years well I mean that song was pretty famous oh Stairway to Heaven you probably heard it so the second that song sort of became famous that's your window like that's where it starts where you can start going hold on a second I think we have a jingle for this don't we do we which one something about [ __ ] Luke and I getting the shits at people for suing oh man yeah yeah yeah yeah C [Music]

cases I've never seen har bird man hopefully this will do well stop suing other bands I uh I don't know if we've talked about this before did you know you know the band uh filter I assume uhuh yes you the the song Hey Man Nice Shot it's very famous song spawn uh no I know it from Spawn no that's um that's uh that's a different song um it's the one with the Crystal Method oh trip like I do um Hey Man Nice Shot is the one about Kur Cain it's in it's in a lot of stuff it's in Cable Guy I think okay anyway that's a very famous song um and have you heard of the band Stabbing Westward Dan I assume you heard I have I hate that you assume that I have but I have oh [ __ ] I love staring West I'm not I'm not ashamed to admit it I love them I saw them

live they're great in the Sydney entertainment center they're kind of like gothy kind of alt band from the 90s they're great but but like like non-offensive no radio friendly yeah exactly well they have an album called uh God I believe it's called God it's one of the earlier albums and it's got a song on it the titular song God mhm and if you listen to that song I think you'll find it's exactly the same as Heyman I from filter and a lot some people have said hang on what's going on there and you know it's because the guitarist from filter was also the guitarist in Stabbing Westward and he just he took the song in and showed it to one band and then took it in showed it to the other band as well and they both went yep okay we're

going to go with that one and he was like oh [ __ ] I just didn't say anything about it I guess not and then both came out I mean well that's I thought that was curious too under obl to to mention that he's already in both but if you listen to I you'll be the riff from um Heyman n I'm sure people would be familiar with it listen to a song called God by staring westw I'm sure there actually there's probably a comparison video on YouTube and it's it is literally the same like it's not similar it's the same riff and that's because it's the same guy playing it well here's the thing I mean if you're going to sue Led Zeppelin for stealing your song Right Kansas Joe McCoy should sue for When the Levy

Breaks because he had a song called When the Levy Breaks that had the same CA and the same words and yet if you get Zeppelin 2 it says When the Levy Breaks lyrics and music by Led Zeppelin I assume that guy's probably dead though right well this guy's dead as well oh yeah true you just need a greedy estate maybe that's his mistake he didn't have have greedy children yeah you need a greedy estate and a judge who doesn't really know about mus anything about music exactly well speaking of of court cases and being sued and this moves onto video games which is a good SP to be suits going on this week yeah yes uh well valve is currently being sued interesting um you know can a strike go I do we know how you can get sort of those fancy skins sure that are worth

lots of money for some reason yeah for some reason don't know what it is but they're being used to gamble okay so they're are site set up and yeah they gamble these skins which are some of them worth quite a bit of money what do you mean gamble them I don't actually know what they're gambling I can't find any article if they're gambling on matches or like I bet you I can beat you type of thing oh okay so it's like betting on matches and stuff yeah okay all right cuz and the problem here is mainly that anybody of any age could be doing this yes okay Val taken St so I could go on find a foury old kid playing and go I bet you you're that valuable skin that you've got oh that sounded weird never mind I'm I'm AB Banning in this train of thought I mean I'm not

sure they were concerned about four-year-old kids it's just anyone under the age of 18 yeah yeah is the is the problem because valve have taken a stance of it's nothing to do with us yeah people will do what they will do yeah like this is we just we facilitate the selling of these skins they're over there on that website selling them and betting them where nothing to do with us well this guy's come along and he's put a lawsuit in go look I've lost money as an ed I've lost money as a minor and I don't actually think it's going to go anywhere I wouldn't think so well I mean somebody might say it's up to the parents in this case to um stop their minor children from gambling yeah cuz I mean yeah does that mean Skype is enabling us to gamble like we could I

could call up you know I could say hey kids call me on going to come out and go yeah I've been gabbling underage yeah maybe that's it it's just a trap but though if you ging underage that what are your parents doing while you're on the internet I mean come on you I mean how old are these kids like well what well they're old enough to be able to have credit cards or paypals to be able to pay for this gambling yeah I know but that's I'm not going to I'm not sure what point you're making here well I've have got if I've got 16y old kids I'm not going to sit there and watch them while they're what are you doing what are you doing like I watch a lot of 16y old kids Matt and I watch them I watch them day in day out

but no I know you can't watch what they're doing but you take to me I would be if I had like uh I'd be taking interest in their financial affairs of how why they're going through so much money in their PayPal yeah that's fair if you know about it well yes but there things like that like what this kid we talking about the other week they cut his mother's credit card and yeah spent the $50,000 on PayPal maybe you should keep a bitter eye on that all right I'll keep a better eye on my kids Luke sorry as far as I remember it was your mom's credit card that had happened to Luke so your mom messaged actually and said what are you guys talking about my credit card for wink win and we'll put Luke's Mom's credit card number in the show way yeah she

appreciated the joke so don't gamble your uh your skin when you're if you're underage that's the message if you want gamble if you want just do it responsibly how do I win some young kid skin I don't know Luke's the expert you put a link in the show notes yeah we'll we'll link to CS Go Lounge all right see PL in there and Away you go L knows all about it now another lawsuit we got one more got one this one's a stupid one and I hate this one actually we do we've got another one too but yeah sorry um have you heard about the new game coming out no man's Sky yes looks cool well they've been going through a bit of a lawsuit for the last three years at no one's know about yeah I heard yeah because somebody is

claiming they own the word Sky yes who the [ __ ] well companies do this Sky TV in um England okay not calling it no man Sky TV that's Sky News yeah but yes they believe and that people might confuse their brand with no man's Sky because that's ridiculous yeah cuz I'm looking at no man's sky right now and it's a beautifully rendered science fiction world and I've seen Sky TV and it's not that no no but apparently these lawyers are the same ones who forced Microsoft to change sky drive to one drive so if they got Microsoft to back down these are some good lawyers that's

interest well not good enough cuz they've lost is that true well no they didn't lose what no one won this what they came everybody lost yeah oh they settled they settled no one no one not knows for how much or what the settlement was but they settled so they could use no man's sky that is so [ __ ] so does that mean you can't you well I mean other than if you settle out at court with these [ __ ] you can't use the word sky in a title for anything because of Sky TV that is a bad precedent for just in general Candy Crush computer programs um you got computer games yeah well candy yeah king tried to to trademark candy and they're like [ __ ] off [ __ ] off companies keep trying to do this and I think it's it's dangerous look I understand it to a point I mean if if

your company is called Coca-Cola right and someone comes out with a video game called cocaa and their logos no man's Coca-Cola well no not that because I think that's coca just cocaa and the logo the same then I probably get on the blower and say hey dude [ __ ] cut that out that's that's my brand completely understand it this is whole copyright thing in is they protect your brand yeah no man sky has nothing to do with Sky T like when we had to Sue that guy Sue that stupid British guy over the multiple bird gasm case back in the day [ __ ] we get any cash out of that I heard he was going to settle no he just he sent me a a little package and it was just just like a little bird's nest with some eggs in it oh that's kind of adorable oh that got

through customs he might be setting you up to take a fall o what a lovely PA of tits oh hello I'm just having a little peep out my window I'm Winston winable and if you love bird watching as much as I do and I do you can join me every week for multiple bird GM your destination for all things birdie did you eat the eggs they were delicious you can't go to jail if the evidence is inside of you inside you that is an annoying lawsuit I thought they'd won actually cuz I I would have been very happy if they had a won sucks well I'm glad the game's coming out oh it's a PS4 exclusive for a while yeah it's or or is it PC as well PC as well no Xbox no Xbox ever or just

timed I think it's PS4 exclusive okay I thought it was a timed exclusive I saw the word timed at one point in in this a sentence with it and I was like yeah but Time Magazine is suing for the use of that word so they probably had to No Man's time yeah oh just out of one word out of a sentence out of context in another sentence and you can sue over that freaks me the [ __ ] out yeah I know it's it's scary yeah that's why we need to need to register multiple nerdgasm in all states and territories yeah and then sue everyone else who's using the word nerd yeah like I could honestly understand if this was had sky in a name and it was a game about a television show or a television company or something like that yeah if it was like a a parody of a news thing or something yeah then yes you might

have something going on but this is this space exploration thing yeah no one's getting these two things confused so if I go outside and I'm like oh the sky is nice today a lawyer is going to hand me a summons and say sky TV owns the rights to that yeah stop expressing that sentiment garbage that doesn't B well hope it gets better in the future I do too all right well our final lawsuit for the week then is this uh this one is interesting because we have a had a potential partner in uh in one of the people involved so you want to admit that Matt well I mean we haven't alleged partner alleged partner this article is about those gray Market game code sites uh have you ever seen these Dan you may not have you know how you buy games on Steam buy games on your Xbox and generally you pay full

price you can also go to websites like uh g2a or kinguin is another one and you can purchase codes there um usually cheaper because uh they it's kind of like eBay like anybody can sell their codes on there it's kind of like just a platform that allows other people to sell stuff right so if you for example were to purchase uh The Humble Bundle MH right and and I should note that the Humble Bundle does not um actually support you doing this but but you can you purchase the Humble Bundle you get a bunch of games and you've already got two or three of the games but you get new keys you could go on to one of these websites and you could sell those okay right yeah now that all seems

fine right so far except what's actually happening uh apparently frequently is that people are either using stolen credit cards or just through um various nefarious means getting hold of game codes that are uh obtained you know not the the developers aren't getting paid basically but then these people are getting game codes and they're selling them and there's another example too remember when Fallout 4 was accidentally free the other week did you see that yeah yeah well people apparently Mass grabbed somehow codes for that and started selling them on the website so people bought them and then moft took the game away from them yeah there's certain uh questionable aspects to it but um as a a game developer Alex Nikki

poric yeah there we go that's his name yeah I'm sure that's correct yeah he's the CEO of tiny build and he is threatening to sue them or he's it's all a bit they're kind of threatening back and forth to sue uh g2a the company one of these online trading companies because he's saying that um people are getting keys for their game gravity ghost from somewhere and he doesn't know where it is um and he's not he has not authorized g2a to sell them uh and he's losing money so but see that's the thing like g2a isn't actually selling the game on their behalf they're selling Keys which are sold to them from someone else yeah right I think one of the big things that people are upset with is one of the games out there they um they sold all of these games

legit through their through their all these Keys started then appearing on g2a right and then all the credit cards that were used to buy them were reported stolen right so they lost so everyone got charge backs they got chargebacks yeah but g2a was still able to sell the keys and they still work right so the only people who lose really are the developers are the developers yeah it's not good what I don't understand is why they don't just go we're going to block those keys but here's the thing I mean isn't this the same as eBay being blamed if somebody stole something and then sold it on eBay yes yes that's exactly the same yeah that's why it's well it's a little different because these companies are often run out of China or um uh I think the the people in Poland

from kinguin um and so they're they're not particularly stringent on checking who is selling things whereas I mean you're right you could be any random person on eBay selling things whereas in this actually setting up kind of a shop and in some cases it's quite simple to just go on there and sell sure stuff with no with no checks and I I need to fact correct myself um tiny build did not make gravity ghost that was another developer they made uh tiny build made punch club and the gravity ghost developer um she gives away an extra code with every copy of the game that she sells so she was hoping that people would share it and more people would play it and apparently they all get sold on these websites as well well that's you can't

that's going to happen yeah I know I know it's well the bigger issue that happened recently was um Ubisoft um removed from people's accounts um games that they had purchased through these websites because they said [ __ ] you like we didn't get any money for these so you can't have it and then the people were like yeah but I paid for it so um they've said that they're going to reinstate the ones that they've since removed but the keys have been canceled now so the people will still potentially be ripped off well to me I don't think if if I pay for a game yeah and then I sell it on but then I get judged back I don't feel that key should work anymore I don't have any problem with the developers

shutting that key down right and the person I sold it to should be coming back to me going what the hell yeah sure and it's the same in this case so if um g2a by the these keys from someone who's stolen them and they sell them on but then that the person who's brought them from GTA if they get developer can cancel it g2a should be the one that deal with the well g2a don't sell them on the person who who stole them sells them using g2a as the platform to sell them Oh I thought that g2a was a part of it no no it's actually it's it it is very like eBay like I am like the I use this to sell you my key oh that's the thing and and but not only that the article goes into quite a bit of detail and polygon have done a bunch of follow-ups on this too because they

tried to find out they tried to trace codes back to see where they came from yep and with with help from g2a and some and some other people so they followed them back to okay uh I purchased them from this seller on there and that seller says he purchased it from this other guy who traded it on an online forum for a key for Team Fortress 2 to this guy and then they tried to follow it all the way back back and they said basically some or all of those people were lying because like that's just not where the code came from the the developer confirmed it's a Humble Bundle code so it's yeah it's like this Rabbit Hole of but I mean how do you police this like if if there weren't these websites people would just do it somewhere else right um or they just do it on eBay at

the end of the day um like the same thing happened on eBay if I was to buy something off eBay and then please Rock up my door cuz that was stolen I lose the stolen property and I lose the money right and then I have to try and go through credit cards PayPal to try and get it back that way or go through everyway to try and get it back yeah but I do lose both and I think in this case it should be the same thing you're going onto a website which I would agree with that I think if you don't buy something through the well [ __ ] no cuz if I was on eBay I'd expect eBay to have a certain amount of responsibility for would I well PP payp protects you somewhat and I'm looking at G2 as well and they've got a 100% satisfaction guarantee okay so you're

that's the same as eBay's guarantee is the gta1 so to me it's I think the developers should just go look this was brought on a stolen credit card it's been charged back we're disabling that key I don't think there's any problem with that H well look and the reason that that this was a specific interest is because as I mentioned to you guys before the show um kingin did approach us uh wanting to advertise on well we might I don't know whether we're shooting ourselves in the foot by talking about I don't really care I like to be transparent I don't think you know whatever you're going to know if we start talking about them in in an advertising context so yeah um I just wasn't sure whether whether we should based on all this stuff that's going on

what do you guys reckon I I'm okay with it I would have been fine with it but I don't know if they're going to want to now after we [ __ ] dragged him through the mud did we I think sort of defending them yeah I think we've been pretty fair I mean they know that this is happening they're not I was mentioning it's not maybe they found out on this podcast maybe I me fans of the show money well spent there you go so pop on over there and um get yourself something nice oh wa I did find something you have to buy insurance to be insured yes so it's a g2a shield no no no I'm talking about kinguin well I don't know about kinguin I'm I'm stop promoting G2 they're our competitors all right who's kinguin let me go there yeah kinguin.net winnet I'll join up with them and I'll

buy something all right cuz I really do want a copy of punch Club so not only that you're going to buy the one thing where the developer like [ __ ] them oh I might buy his game from them actually might just wait cuz the steam sales on at the moment yeah it is so i''d be crazy to buy one from a secondhand yeah hand I love how you think it's secondhand it's like it's slightly used a slightly used there's a massive summer sale on it kingin as well right now but look yeah I mean there's some question about these websites I guess you just need to be careful when you use them uh and make sure that the person you're buying from has a very high um satisfaction rating Apparently that is one way that you can protect yourself on there because which that's the same way

eBay started and here's the thing this is New Territory when eBay first started I knew tons of people probably myself included at a certain point that was too skeptical to use it you know what I mean I I needed to see enough other people do it without repercussions before I went okay fine I'll put my credit card details into this cuz now with eBay if I just if I think of something I want I just go on eBay and just buy instantly without a second thought like it's just where I go shopping now so I guess just bear in mind if you use these websites you're not buying from the website you're buying from someone on the internet who might be a [ __ ] with so go in check their feedback like you can click through to the person's page um see the reviews that have been left like

if if this person's got no positive ratings and a thousand negative don't buy from them and if you do well don't come wiin a was in fact don't come WI a was anyway no we don't care no like I know I'm not uh kinguin's got this bio protection as well 30 Bay money back guarantee uh they've got 100% verified sellers so no scams no spam so to me go for it use them um but in saying that I have no problem with the developers coming out later and going look this was stolen from us and canceling the key it is the risk you are sort of still running well that's that's not the best endorsement Luke but no no no what I've got here is go ahead do it you'll be fine unless they revoke the key in which case you won't be fine that's they right I can see right here and it's your fault for

listening to my advice they've got they've kingin is saying that all their sellers are 100% verified yeah I know so you shouldn't be having that anyway yeah I know but the developers are saying otherwise but Ian what can you do I guess the difference is if you if you buy something off of eBay and someone wasn't meant to sell it to you it doesn't just disappear from your house that's true no the thing is it can it's if it's stolen can how can it police aren't going to rock up at your door from something you bought on eBay what are the you have an anote here it sounds like you may may have an anecdote no no I I don't I'm just saying that they would they're not going to rock up for your $5 thing but if you

brought a car they're coming around for wait you can buy a car on EB stolen car off eBay you can buy cars and boats you can buy anything on eBay couldn't buy my dad's love I'm sorry I should laugh yeah he tried but then the police came and took it away someone outbid me that's right his dad was like I didn't authorize that and canceled [Laughter] it he gave it away on some other side oh dear so that's this might be a good time to mention uh some other ways that you you can support us one of which being head to patreon.com nerdgasm to support this podcast for as little as $1 an

episode uh or one of the most you want to jump in and tell us tell everyone how it may or may not be a scam I'm just think I'm just trying to find some keys I can sell [ __ ] hell um one of the best things most helpful things you can do is jump onto iTunes uh and give us a positive rating because that helps raise us through the ranks of podcasts and get more eyeballs and on the on the page and then earballs on the on the show what am I talking about help me out here guys I'm drowning no man I think you're doing fine and I think if either of us were to intervene it would just take away from the atmosphere that you've created okay just go for it all right great so um I yeah hit the iTunes multiple nasm five stars please anything less just don't bother

if you don't like the show just walk away just walk we're not going to force you to listen well we might you mentioned uh the Steam Sale is on Luke that is true I've confirmed that it's so evil have you purchased stuff not yet but there's a few things I'm looking at I have not purchased anything um I don't have a PC so uh the my something needs to be able to run on this old MacBook of mine if I'm going to buy it at this point on Steam there'll be plenty of stuff that you could get there yeah I probably own them all though already see Mac OS what's there there was I noticed there was a Civ Bundle sale Dan if you're if you're looking for more Civ related St I don't know if there's any Civ stuff I don't have yeah me either me either although there is

something we're going to talk about in a little bit there's one thing that I think I might get it's 50% off what's that home world oh yeah not but there's evidently there's a a prequel which is a RTS like a vehicle thing it's not you're not in space I say I don't know what you're talking about okay good well remember how the start of Home World it basically starts off that the the Earth was all fighting sure and then you find the alien artifact and then you all come together I think this is about that battle right before you join forces okay so you're going to Reby the game again to get that or well no no I can buy it separately oh okay I own I've got the

the new home world right I got that as soon as it came out never played it but I own it yeah that's that's how I roll just sitting there waiting for the day that I decide to play a PC game your PC's held together with bits of string at the moment isn't it it pretty much is yeah I think it would die if I tried to play a game on it yeah mine's in the corner waiting to be either I don't know how to sell a PC that's got no hard drives in it and is like 6 years old I think it might just end up in the trash listeners what do I do I haven't bought a PC since the '90s no I can't I can't I don't think I'm going to buy another one no I I can't think of anyone that would buy a six-year-old computer no that's doesn't work well I mean it works it just

doesn't have any hard drives in it cuz I took them out yeah but they'd have to go out and buy extras to yeah make it work and just needs a hard drive listeners the only people I know if you want my computer right in the only people I know who would buy a computer that had to like buy parts and put it in wouldn't be buying a six-year-old computer yeah Fair Point Fair Point all right well speaking of Civ which we were um did you see this article about civilization edu I did see this I thought uh coming out next year sounded like something that would really successfully suck all the fun out of playing Civ I think uh this might have been a bit interesting in history class in high school it's basically a a special um education focused version of the game I

don't know if it's Civ 5 or if it's going to be um Civ 6 when when Civ 6 comes out yeah I wasn't sure about the article either yeah but apparently they've um they've partnered with games for change which is a conference and glass lab whatever that is um and they're going to give students it's a version of Civ where they can U recreate historical events consider and evaluate the geographical ramifications of their economic and technological decisions and to engage in systems thinking and experiment with the Casual correlative relationships good Lord between military technology political and socioeconomic development I mean that just sounds like playing Civ so I was about to say I mean what you've described is Civ the only difference is that in Civ currently I

can do whatever the [ __ ] I want yeah this can you change the outcome whereas now I have to follow along with what actually happened right yeah this doesn't sound like you're really playing so much as you just have to watch what happens well I'm sure it's probably um I mean there's got to be a game to it it's probably just kind of uh you know you can load up scenarios in Civ where it's kind of like preconfigured where you know like say the the American Civil War or something like that you just load up a scenario where that's already set up and it's happening I pulled that example off out of my ass but you can you can do that like you could play the Battle of Hastings yes that's right so I guess this is just a version of Civ that comes with all those things built in and

probably just doesn't let the kids you know play C normal cuz that's not as educational perhaps I mean don't get me wrong I wish that there was a certain amount of authenticity brought to Civ for example like if I'm playing as Julius Caesar I can build an anchor what do you know what I mean and I should only be able to build an anchor what if I'm playing as the Cambodian Empire do you know what I mean like it I I wish it was a bit more uh aligned with who you've decided to play as cuz right now probably mods to do that perhaps but yeah you're right you've got access if you find something first you get it in Civ that's exactly right yeah yeah that's right with wonders and whatnot yeah yeah I mean that is cool because I mean

strategically you can you can experiment um but yeah this this one I assume will be more limited in that sense I think this sounds C fine I probably would have enjoyed this when I was in school well when I was in school I used to play um I played the original of Empires yeah right uh used to play where in the worlders come San Diego oh [ __ ] yeah I did that was in primary school though yeah myga put the [ __ ] out there why isn't there a new Cen San Diego game well there were newer ones and they sucked yeah why I mean that's a put that on iPad or iPhone like that's printing money right and and it's educational well they were good games it's simple I mean the the the the way the game works is is fine you know you've got to catch a criminal follow

them to locations based on actually learning [ __ ] about the world yep and then try and catch them before the time runs out man you uh I think you need to go to the iTunes Store type in kmen San Diego and uh have a little look what's there are they really Comm San Diego games cmen San Diego returns a global Spy game for kids huh well they it's that business idea like what stealing their original idea yep they weren't doing anything with it well no they were Luke that's the point well I guess I know what I'm playing on the train this week I bet it's I bet it's a a shadow watered down version of what we used to love like every come in San Diego and there's also one called spy hunt I assume that's just if just ripped off

the game oh man why is the art in this common San Diego so oh I've got a game I'm going to sell on King we going to buy com San Diego just to sell it [ __ ] they better sponsor us you better sponsor us yeah if I'm going to start selling stuff on you I expect something out of the deal yeah the money you get from just the money I would have thought that's a given someone else is annoyed at Fallout 4 not just me oh for Christ's sake so I'm absolutely loving Fallout 4 and the fact that I've gotten the DLC now is is meaning I can play it all over again and the far Harbor game is really quite good good story very immersive lots lots of side quests all very cool H and then they made me play [ __ ] Minecraft for

3 hours in the middle of it before I could get back to the main [ __ ] game what how do you mean Minecraft game within a game moving [ __ ] blocks around no way to avoid it [ __ ] irritating uh what do you have to do what do like Minecraft well look it basically is you just got to move [ __ ] cubes around in like a little mini game that's you know I mean it's it's kind of fun once you got to do it five times as five levels and by the time I'm up to the fifth like honestly just let me get back to playing [ __ ] Fallout there you go this the one where you can build like the weird machines eventually the no no no no no this is just you're in a computer and this is how the computer behaves and you got to uh you just got to do stuff I don't want

to give anything away I'm being very vague but it was just I hate when games throw in something that is unlike the game you've been playing I mean it's it's all well and good to have like a crazy little moment I mean all the Fallout games have had you know that little Pleasantville sequence and i' already played a psychedelic experience in this little Quest right and I thought that was kind of me done but going in and having me play with blocks in a game that felt completely alien to Fallout I'm just not into that I'm not into it stop it fair enough yeah that is annoying especially yeah if it it brings everything to a halt because you've got to finish this other game like um and look I'm not like games in Bully remember that oh F absolutely absolutely and the fact that

you couldn't progress unless doing it remember that Luke you were here one time playing Bully and and we sat there I mean I think we were we were drinking but you sat there until like 3 in the morning trying to finish some stupid mini game yeah and I did the one with [ __ ] sushi that took me ages yeah yes ridiculous yeah Games should just be the games that they are if that if you know what I mean yeah no I completely agree starting with Fallout 4 but I mean look this was today that I did this so it's not like it's been like a week and I'm still hopping on about it all right this is this is what I've literally been doing just before we recorded this so it's fresh on Fresh in your mind yeah and I'm through it now so hopefully this is the last we'll hear of

it well for bethesda's sake I hope so yeah oh that reminds me I need to check check what if I'm still in the competition andure achievements you don't know I don't know your achievement Streak still going oh hell yeah good stuff even when I was stuck in um Brisbane for work so get kept it going I have my Windows phone with me and what did you play on your windows I can't wait to hear the answer some toy tank game yeah okay you got this toy tank and you you sort of pull it back even in the game it's a toy it's a toy tank yep and you sort of pull it back let it go and then you going to try and drive it down a hill sounds riving um are you just not able to find good games on there is that what this is

or have you played them all no no there are good games on there but it's called p of Geeks see you don't want a good game you want an easy game they'll just give you achievements just to give me a quick achievement yeah something I don't have to get involved in and I can just jump on do two seconds get an achievement log out genius that's what got me to 420 days genius well before we go um I would like to bring back a segment that we've not had on this show for quite a while MH and I'm talking of course about this one how welcome to Indian

news no no no it's India India the country I'm sanjit marari and this is indiaan news it's Indian news that's our most racist jingle by the way I think you think I don't know the [ __ ] crimes was accidentally racist this uh this news from um also fits nicely into James Juan news which I like yes uh we play the jingle mat oh man another jingle yeah happy to Dan happy to this one's quite long it's called in segment I think should have just [ __ ] named him more appropriately here we [Music] go

I really need to learn to make these Jingles I think not only do you need to play all of that but you need to start it back at the beginning and play it because I think out of respect to James ju we should be playing all of his jingle so we haven't played um I I'll play another James one things I would do to James one no no Whitten by one wit by one we by one we have a lot of James onean related Jingles we do and that that's not even all of them no we've got this one as [Music] wellam those two are quite similar anyway the news this week is that The

Conjuring 2 is so terrifying that a 65-year-old man has died while watching it in pretty terrifying wow according to police two persons both native of Andra Pradesh had gone to watch the night show of the newly released horror movie The Conjuring 2 in Shala Cinemas in the town racist beep that sorry I just realized they couldn't pronounce it but don't see the night show if you're squeamish about horror movies no while watching the climax of the movie one of them complained of chest pain and fainted he was rushed to the Old Government hospital where the doctors declared him dead and it gets weirder than that cuz I mean I guess this just happens in India the paramedic staff in the hospital asked the person I assume they mean his friend to take the

body to the government Medical College Hospital on the outskirts of town for postmortem yeah sorry so your friend's dead H so I'm going to need you to take him down to the to the morg unless you don't want a postmortem and then I guess just take him home well on the way there or he he took the body and then vanished with it so police are now asking for anybody who's with any information to please come forward cuz they don't even know who this guy is they didn't think they get any ID or something I guess it's it's a different world over there Luke but still I'm going to give you a dead body can I just get your name yeah my my friends had a heart attack oh he's dead you're gonna have to take him for postmortem all right and then off he goes with him so I I like to think that if you know if

something happened to one of you guys or God forbid something happened to me you would steal my body away what do you want us to do with it whatever you want Luke cuz I've got a few ideas but go on just want to make sure you're cool with it don't I don't know yet do we need a jingle for this no no no no no no jingle just just it's just going to be between me and Matt's dead body okay no more I feel uncomfortable even being here right now well you're say if you're in a different country he could oh my God what was that is that the sound of loop coming in the window what you didn't hear that noise no I heard it oh it was like a crash of some sort like jingling of bells it must have been this has gone weird it's gone weird now what the [ __ ]

are you two talking about there was a there was a noise it wasn't on my end and it wasn't on Luke's I guess so it must have been on yours Dan oh there wasn't like a noise at your house well I guess there must have been beware this is getting creepy maybe it's who's this other person on the call Sanji mccu uh that's it I'm out since when am I the one that's going too far oh I don't know man youve changed him oh what didn't want Luke to be the [ __ ] one taking the moral High Ground all the time that's all for this week thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show if you enjoyed it then please subscribe and it receive episodes automatically we'll see you next time