Lawyering Up: Elon Musk's Twitter Takeover & Henry Cavill Leaves The Witcher

we're all recording now we're all happy yeah well hold on you don't know that we're trying out some new things today listeners hopefully you haven't noticed anything different mhm let us know immediately if you do notice something different cuz that's bad welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All Things nerdy yeah and hopefully you're a patron which means you're listening to this Thursday instead of Friday and then we can fix it before the main crowd comes in or if you're in America Wednesday instead of Thursday oh yeah speaking of which Matt it's your mom's birthday today I'm aware

not tomorrow I know I know today already today mhm thank you though yeah you're welcome cuz that's how it does work though it's her birthday cuz tomorrow wouldn't be her birthday it would be for Matt would be but for her it's not it's not really about Matt at this point too yeah if I wake up tomorrow morning and I go happy birthday she's gone to bed and it's going to be too late yeah and that's it she'll never speak to you again that's exactly right cuz so happy birthday Matt's mom yeah thank you appreciate it so I've been doing a lot reading up a lot of watching a lot of law stuff lately it's been quite intriguing this is the second week in a row that you've mentioned some some legal research that you've been doing now we do have some kind of old segment

where you review court cases and we've got are you sure it's a law but Luke is there something that you want to tell us are you becoming a lawyer honestly I think I would make a great lawyer if it wasn't for the whole thing where you had to like study and pass the bar and all that stuff I'd be a lawyer tomorrow did you watch She-Hulk attorney at law and kind of get bitten by the bug so speak y I've been practicing my twerking what's uh so I don't understand why that's relevant and I don't want to know what what's what's like Jack that you guys play from Japan oh right yeah yeah so if I've learned anything from that it's that if if your client is innocent that's all well and good but you've got to you've

got to find someone who's going down yeah do you watch legal eagle on uh YouTube Luke no you should eagle head eag he doesn't have an eagle head now he has a human head he's a lawyer with a normal head and uh he um he's the guy I said he reviews he well he he lately he does a lot of stuff about um Trump m cuz it's in the you know and then stuff with Twitter and E and stuff which maybe we'll talk about oh yes I've seen but he's funny he's very funny and he he did in the past has done like kind of reactions to he watch scenes from Phoenix W and just react as a lawyer to what's happening and it's very funny cuz he's like well that's that's not you can't do that just introduce evidence in the middle of this is not a documentary surprise yeah

that's it's funny yeah no I have SE his up but no I've been watching like a little little ones like little talk with Mike and stuff who were sort of like they just he covered like the amber the Johnny Depp and Amber herd face and then he just Dre Daryl Brooks and MH yeah I don't know I find it quite interesting um Amber herd has deleted her Twitter more on that later okay I I saw it said Elon Musk took over Twitter and then suddenly Amber Heard was deleted that's certainly what all the headlines said but when you read the articles there's no way he would do that doesn't it certainly seems like her ex-boyfriend took over and suddenly she didn't have an account anymore but as far as I can tell that's not it yeah that's look if if it had

been it would have been her leaving not him deleting it's not just her it's like rats leaving a sinking [ __ ] at this point well I think a lot of people starting to get upset cuz now they're talking about like the Blue Tick you just pay for it well there's more to be upset cost can we get a blue tick on ours $ 12250 a month $8 what eight bucks $8 yeah so so so he took over the other day we don't tweet anything no he officially took over he came in and now he's he's come up with all this crazy stuff where and then apparently first $ 46 billion 46 billion back yeah somebody first he said 20 and everyone was like [ __ ] off and he was like how about oh no and Stephen King was like I'm not paying

20 bucks and then Elon Musk replied to Stephen King said how about $8 and then the announcement was now it's $8 a month I love that and people were saying how well I can just pay $8 month and say I'm Elon Musk for example and I I actually tweeted for the first time in [ __ ] ages and I said that's crazy you must be mistaken surely you would pay the $8 and then you would still have to be verified the way that you what I was it's the same verification process but just with a behind a pay apparently not the I mean and again the problem we have at the moment is that so they they've fired literally half of the staff at Twitter internationally like so why we did say last week it was all a joke he what he's now cleaning 50% of the company he's fired and so now there's all these

documents leaking and people complaining and people saying that no no no anyone can pay for the tick and you can say you're whoever the [ __ ] you want but then well then why would anyone pay for the tick if that's the case like how can we believe anything coming out of the company right now because he's fired everybody like like it's just all it's just a mess I never quite understood that how do you get your tick and does the tick just mean you are a famous person you apply for it you can apply I've applied before I got rejected cuz nobody trying to impersonate me I see it's basically theck is we can change that Mt if you want I can try and impersonate you if you can prove it you I don't know how it is these days it used to be this was quite a while ago

because I have I have a fair few followers on Twitter and so I was like I'll try and get verified and uh and I got knocked back cuz they said now there's no you don't need to be and I was like fine that's fair enough I don't you got the not famous enough letter but the yeah exactly right dear I know other people like as an know from from people that I've interacted with that that they were able to get it because they showed there was a precedent for people impersonating them other other magician magicians oh no magicians are the worst Matt they will try to impersonate you and they will try to S you in half don't don't take them too lightly but now apparently you just have to pay eight bucks and you can say you're anyone you want okay great who do

we want to say we are because change very quickly I'd like to say um Steven King and then come on and say actually I'd like it to be four bucks I mean if Steven King's just the guy who gets to decide I think probably a lot of what we're hearing is not true because people have been fired they're upset they're posting fake [ __ ] like I just don't and and also elon's a [ __ ] troll there's no way this can last right there there there's no way this business can last these people who are being fired aren't probably they're probably hearing things as they're leaving and they don't know the full story about anything they've fired all apparently fired all of the content moderation people all of them it's a [ __ ] who needs them because we got an election next no one

should be blocked post anything does that mean Trump can come back on uh he hasn't de no no he said he he's not going to make a decision about that until they settle exactly what's happening with all that stuff they're firing everyone and ruining all their lives but we can't make a decision where one person can go back apparently not no and he wants to gut their infrastructure costs like their their kind of you know hardware and all that kind of stuff he wants to cut the costs by $1 billion annually okay and I I mean that sounds like a lot of money but Twitter is quite large and I can't see how that's just going to be something I can't say I can't see them just having Superfluous servers and things that don't un maybe this is all part of the plan right so

he's master all this stuff everyone's like [ __ ] you off Twitter don't need those servers anymore then do we true genius wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute shrink your audience is his game plan get if you get rid of all the users you don't need the servers and if all those users are just people like us paying $8 a month for Blue Tick yeah instead of thousands of people not paying a goddamn Cent then maybe it is a viable business plan hear me out his financial advice lawyer Luke I'm I'm I'm excited his purchased it he's now he's L because of all the action finul voice loyal Luke I love the phrasing of that too he's got he's got users leaving he's going to reduce cost and then he's going to try and sell it in a year cuz he's going to go look we're bringing all this

extra avue with us sell he's going to flip it he's doing minor renovations to it we're taking out these walls y yeah um but what's he going to flip it what did he pay for this 4 billion never paid for anything it's going to get more than $40 billion for it I think him saying he'd spend $40 billion on it was initially a joke cuz only he in the world has4 billion to spend on anything he tried so hard to get out of this I can't take anything he says seriously at the moment exactly like he's just [ __ ] around well he might be I don't know what he's doing I mean for all we know this whole thing is just to get back at Amber herd like I wouldn't put that past him he's just trying to drive this [ __ ] company to the ground everybody off yeah yeah he just needs

to it's a bit like Kanye just stop oh God don't I talk about stop I mean look maybe maybe somehow this will work like I'm not I don't know how I don't know you know I don't I don't know maybe this will work maybe Twitter will become the best place on the internet somehow look get rid of all the bots in the spam and then we'll talk and the users like at the moment driving away the users which is not what we want we want you to drive away the crap that's on there well I'll tell you what what do you people who's driving away I guess technically are the people who care about having a check mark which are like celebrities and stuff is he actually driving away everyday people who'll pay so may like maybe he doesn't give a [ __ ] about all these people

complaining you know what if you maybe if you look at like the the celebrities that are on there that got a Blue Tick is that actually bringing Twitter Revenue no I wouldn't think they don't pay for it they don't pay for it they're not bring so Twitter's not getting any but the average user who's going to pay money is going to give Twitter money I don't know I don't know you're the expert on these Financial yeah you're the lawyer and also I'm not even on Twitter so who the [ __ ] knows he's going to flip it I'm telling you it's going to be on the market in two years and maybe will'll buy it yeah patreon.com multiple nasm if you want to buy that's our our top tier just above send us to space is buy us Twitter give us enough money to

buy Twitter $40 billion um speaking of doing a house up and selling it um I watched The Watcher this week oh and I started it day before yesterday and finished it last night um very good um in fact I got one episode from the end last night was like no I'm not coming on and having two weeks in a row us having to not say whether or not we like the entire series um I like this very much I have a feeling I'll forget it even exists very very soon sure I I don't think it's going to be memorable but it was certainly an enjoyable watch um it was a great mystery up until I realized that it was based on a true story that they never solved yes I was about to say it's based on an actual Cold Case that if you look into it is actually terrifying yeah more more

terrifying than the show is in a way too yeah because it's real or and and it was not as you know over the top and kind of in depth as the what happens in the show but and the family actually never moved into the house they were so terrified by the letters that they got and then they actually subletter to somebody else who moved in and got one of the letters but the letter was still to the original owner who didn't live there and never had yeah so so yeah it's I mean I think the ride was worth it to me Heron caval doesn't think so the Watcher yeah we're talking about the Watcher AR we yeah Henry Henry caval is no longer The Watcher yeah he's not Henry caval will not appear in The Watcher you heard that here first fol he

will continue to not appear so I should so I should watch it is what you're saying I think think so yeah no I think so in fact I I started watching it then I thought oh this was probably something I could have watched with h as well you know it's pretty it's it's definitely something that I think everyone can get something out of yeah I'm going to give it a watch next week then this is not I guess it's a little bit of a spoiler but it's all such a big mish mash of random threads that intertwine and and thing and one of the things I really liked in it was he he gets introduced to somebody by the the detective that he hires you know that kind of crazy guy who used to live in the house yes and he meets with him and then he finds out he sees him in a TV commercial mhm and he thinks [ __ ]

it that guy is an actor so he chases hunts him down and confronts him and the guy goes yeah I am an actor you never you never asked me what I did for a living no I also lived in your house also used to live in your house I was like that's [ __ ] awesome yeah but but see that confused me as well because that's something that is indicative of this entire show which is I'm never sure what Clues are Clues and which ones are red herrings even after they seemingly have sold them it's the same thing with only murders in the building you don't know what and that's when the second season I wasn't looking out for as Clues as such cuz in the first season you don't actually get introduced to the murderer until quite some way into the show so there's no point in trying to

focus on what might be clue might not because you don't know now I haven't seen all of season 2 uh just because of reasons of only murders so no spoilers please that's a good that's a good show I think someone got murdered I think the Watcher was I I it felt like what they were try to create create this sense that like every episode you were like oh what the [ __ ] man and it just really even up to the to the end I was just like what the [ __ ] never know we'll never know kind of yeah but not in a not in a annoying way no for me anyway no correct but I don't want to quote Dan Brown of all [ __ ] writers but Dan Brown has

this thing if you make a promise to the audience you have to keep it so if you if you I mean Hitchcock said it I guess when he said if I see a gun in Act One someone better get shot in act two right yeah sure um and I feel this show didn't live up to that it dangled a lot of carrots that didn't pay off into something like who who was that [ __ ] guy who was in his kitchen oh we know he's been in the house we know he's dodgy don't know whether or not he's the guy we've been told about but we do know he's dodgy and guess what we're just not going to explain it okay fine that it's a real life story and it's a cold case but that's a fictitious character you wrote for the show so you can at least finish writing that there's also so it's a bit of a spoiler but then I'm trying

to think of a way there's no spoilers there's no ending it didn't end all right so the cop gave the detective the evidence about that or did he yeah or did he and yeah do they know each other was it and like cuz when they confronted him about it he genuinely like it seemed like had nothing to do with any of this once they wanted you not minute did he or did he not yeah yeah yeah it's there's a lot of that I will watch it next week and I'll let you know no look you're I just realized you're going to hate this because this is just like a Christopher Nolan movie where he's going to have to decide what he thinks is real or not what what happened what is true and also I go to be entertained you tell me what I meant to think this is a little bit of a spoiler to but not really because it's

not but Matt did you like me interpret so at the very end Bobby Carnaval is back standing outside the house watching the house because he's now just obsessed with it because there's something about this house that just makes people obsessed with it and this kind of it's mystery within mystery within mystery and now he's just as obsessed too right yeah that's not what the internet thinks the internet thinks definitively at the last episode and the last scene they showed you that he was The Watcher all along and I'm like no no he's not it's absolutely not it's not possible that he was he didn't know about the house years decades ago yeah which is why I thought it wasn't possible that it was that young kid either because I'm like well hold on hasn't this been going on for

decades this kid's 19 yeah yeah something you you take off from your parents or grandparents I love that too where he's like he's like you put a camera in the room I'm like no I couldn't have been him and he's like no I did put a camera in the room yeah cuz I didn't trust you but that's the other thing I did send that video and I was like oh my God this show yeah but that's but that's the thing that confused me is that they would set up things like Mysteries and then solve them immediately like oh who who put the camera there oh it was me by the way sorry about that and it's like oh okay and then they would set up things they just and then it's like well that is a mystery that's a mystery yeah yeah like that's still a mystery yeah so

anyway good show yeah it was a good show a bit like lost in a way yeah but I think more satisfying cuz it wasn't wasn't like Seasons Seasons long and I kind of got a feeling going into it that it was going to end this way kind of not it was never going to wrap up in a neat little bow cuz it just wasn't that kind of vibe yeah but I don't need a bow but I do need to feel that was worth the ride and I I I think this did land but only just I cuz I think I think you're supposed to feel like they feel the characters yes which I think and I think that worked me f yeah yeah yeah I would agree with that there was one that I watched earlier this year called from uh which at the time I watch because I thought it was nope but it wasn't um full at a word yeah but it

also didn't explain anything by the finale and it's fiction so no excuses sure but it's okay if Christopher Nolan does it yes well he's great when he does anybody else though I I don't know I I reject that because I actually think Christopher Nolan knows and if you know Christopher Nolan and you trust him you can feel you know enough I do not trust him I would not be asking him around to help me move yeah I get you I think when Christopher Nolan writes it there is a there is a thread that goes all the way through it's just that sometimes you lose it the first watch and then maybe you'll pick it up eventually or or maybe you never will but it is there I think whereas with this I'm not sure it is there yeah or

say Damon lindeloff who I love his writing but I don't trust him right because he could be just making it up as he goes because he just makes [ __ ] up cuz that's literally what he did for and he admits it yeah yeah correct well wasn't a case of they just kept wanting more seasons so it's well I guess we better kept right I believe so but I also would L have been better if they stopped after four seasons probably and I think there there's a definite end in there it's like Buffy there's a definite end and then there's more show yeah cuz they were like also you will continue also they admitted if you watch the DVD commentary Lindelof and Abrams admitted that just for the pilot they just threw in Mysteries they had no idea they

because they didn't know if it was going to become a so they didn't make up answers they were just like wouldn't it be cool if what the [ __ ] Shake yeah the tree Shake there's smoke there's a panda what's the panda about yeah I never watched it oh it was very good yeah last very good was did they end up they were already dead or something no no not necessarily I mean if you want to think that sure but no not ask Christopher Nolan what he think yeah I'd sent you guys that video it popped up on again just every now then YouTube reminds me of stuff you know that one that's that a British comedian that does the that skit that's the the moment in a movie when you stop paying attention stop trying figing out what it's about yeah yeah so the plane crashed no it didn't well at

least it not yet yeah it's so that is so funny because it is so accurate yeah absolutely yeah Matt last week you said this was lynchian it is literally lynchian it's just not David lynchian it's Jennifer lynchian oh is that a relative of his it's his daughter are you [ __ ] kidding me I can't believe I didn't look that up okay she didn't direct every episode I think she did three including the finale okay that explains it explains a lot well I hope I hope she does more then cuz I enjoyed this yeah same ah so the the David Lynch for a new generation perhaps I think out there I think she's still older than us too like just before before we start painting her as this like spokeswoman for I say that he's dead but maybe just because his his way

of doing stuff is R out there hers maybe raining in for I think the last thing David Lynch did was Interview a monkey on YouTube so it's a little bit out there I mean my favorite thing he's done is still get a cow to Spook for Laura D's um yeah Oscar nomination please consider Laura D amazing guy is just [ __ ] incredible to me yeah he's great and then his weather reports his daily weather reports it's sunny here in the San Fernando Valley the number of the day he does the number of the day number of the day who was Elmo like Sesame Street yeah what a guy um I watched a really good movie before we just go on for Mysteries and there's no point in me harboring on but um it's for [ __ ] sake I didn't write down what it was called must have been good it was

excellent hold on hold on gu Pier I'm leaving this in what's it's called The Infernal machine oh okay it's called The Infernal machine and it's came out this year and it's about an author reclusive novelist who starts getting harassed by a fan who seems to know a little too much about him oh all right and Luke in the end they tell you what happened they tell you what the ending is but I still I still don't think this is a movie for me I just do you know what you know what Luke should watch Luke should watch Columbo because in colbo they at the beginning happen and then you just watch colbo figure it out the whole thing is dramatic irony while you watch him know who it is and then slowly get that

person to confess yeah it's been a long time since I watched Columbo oh I recommend it often yes I don't you you often recommend it or you recommend watching it often or both both both both yeah I will get to it I've only watched one recently and it was only because it was when I worked out worked out I think you told me that the pilot was directed by Steven Spielberg like preed Spielberg yeah one about the two the two authors yeah and it's very good I I like it very much yeah it's got one of one of my favorite catching him out in a lie kind of conversation that's a lot of Columbo is but yeah it's got a really good yeah it's it's well written that one mat I've told you this before but I'll I'll remind you there's a there's a movie a

German movie from the 80s in English it's called Uh wings of Desire it's by your so here's the list of reasons you should watch this it's vendor movie right it does Nick Cave as himself right oh right it was remade by Nicholas Cage in the '90s but it was terrible and it was called wait Nick Cave is in the German one yes Nick Cave a singer is in the German movie as himself right that's interesting but also I actually didn't know that Peter folk is in it as himself playing Peter folk shooting an episode of lbo in Germany wait and he interacts there's no way you've told me these details before he interacts right with the lead character who is played by the guy who does this in the Hitler videos so if

there was a movie made just for you Matt for that the only director I've told the go [ __ ] himself directed this movie yes yes your friend Vim vendors former friend former colleague is odd that I haven't seen this now you should watch it all of these things combined it think is a little bizarre when I the one time I met Vim venders and was very careful a not to tell him to go [ __ ] himself or B not to tell him that I knew you um I asked him about this and I told him it was my favorite movie and he said thanks it's my favorite mov too I said oh there you go oh I'm like out of the ones you've made or it's just your [ __ ] favorite or is that just if he's kid response over yeah it's my favorite why is this guy talking to me no it was

in a press junk and he knew why I was talking to him that reminds me of opth who always talk about how all music is [ __ ] except theirs in interviews and I can't tell if they're being funny or not damnation by opth is my go-to car music if I'm alone and I have a long drive like if I have to drive out when I drove out to see you the other week yeah I had the damnation album on it's my just go to yeah right I I always opth is funny in a way because I have friends who who are so into metal that they're not into like even if metal bands with clean singing they're like it's a bit gay what is this cold but when it's opth doing like an acoustic album they're like oh it's good the [ __ ] I know like yeah it is but like so weird that you just yeah

okay yeah this is easy listening yeah I mean you're you're right but like I'm so confused about how this is something you like but other stuff is not whatever yeah well it's sort of like Billy pan he thinks his music is the greatest never made a three star album look never no never never and if he doesn't get a three star6 one that's it just got our fault it's our fault one word for yougan one word Zan the whole industry's just got it out for him that's how come's [ __ ] I saw a headline today that said that he's come out and said that Kirt cabain stole his sound and I was I'm not even I'm not even going to read this article I'm not even going to do it uh it's got to be clickbait somewhere new I'm going to get back I didn't mind Smashing Pumpkins I loveash [ __ ]

loved them great it's been a long time since I've listened to them it just popped into my head in fact it's not fair for me to say good they were I I loved them no same for for a period but I don't know if I'd say they were like it's like you know I guess they say it's like when they say don't meet your Idols I think they probably were talking about Billy specifically Billy G or people like that where it's like even the people in Smashing Pumpkins hate Billy Corgan well cuz he was fine until I started hearing his interviews and like especially the last time I really heard was when he was saying like I've never made a three star album and all that that was and so like really I thought you were just a nice guy I like to play music he's just a he walked off stage in

Australia because um he was doing a solo show and people kept saying tonight tonight and he was like if you ask for one more pumpkin song I'm walking off stage there's that video I've talked about this before where he it's a it's a pumpkins show but they're doing the new album and people keep yelling out old songs and he goes we're not playing the the old songs we're playing the new songs if you don't like it you can [ __ ] off and then some guy yells something and he's like come on come up on stage and he pulls literally pulls the guy up on stage he says what did you say and the guy goes I like your old albums better and then Billy cgan just like what what where is your [ __ ] album that you made mate [ __ ] off security kick this guy out it's the [ __ ] is wrong

with you I like if it depends on how you f cuz I know Jeb a little while ago they were s of they were doing two shows back to back one was there here's our first album yeah and then the next show was here's our new Factory would I Fear Factory is not the same scale as any of they're at least they're at least on the Jeb level Matt okay fine but Fe Factory used to do two shows for a while where they would do the new album and then they would do dem manufacture which is the album that made them which I think is a great way to do it the famous in quotes the famous that they are was from that album which like it everyone gets to go here and if you want to go you get tickets to that one if you just want to come see us play you get tickets to this one when I was working at the Sid ENT when the Sid

encent used to exist I saw a lot of artists I wouldn't have normally paid to go and see right like Robbie Williams for example yeah yeah I didn't I didn't pay to see Kanye and it was at the cityy cricket ground but uh it's just cuz our Rich friend Lord Stelly took me uh but um that's right I saw Stewart right one of the best gigs ever right so doesn't have a support band right what he does have is a screen on stage that shows a live feed of him in the dressing room ironing his shirt doing stretches warming up to come out right then he comes out on stage and goes Fu these tickets were expensive I'm not going to play any song you haven't heard this is basically greatest hits of Rod St it in order right here's my

earliest single and then just went through yeah it was amazing yeah mind you he was very old and during the instrumentals of each song he would just leave the stage possibly for a drink of water or a shot of oygen they cut to him on the big screen take but I think the Ben should realize when they get to a certain point that's what they should just be doing like no one wants to hear your new new stuff even it's tough because you can do are exceptions right if you look at a band like Lincoln Park who who arguably changed on every album and I think were always good and not everybody liked all the stuff they did but I think they always they were always good M and and they did all right but some bands it just doesn't work for like and so yeah

it's a tossup between do you just do the same [ __ ] every time cuz that's what people want or do you you know well you got to follow the follow your heart well do you that's the thing I mean I get it too because I I saw the Cure in like 2003 or somewhere like that and then I realized it's been a long long time since the Cure wrote the songs I'm Into You know what I mean like they were 20 years old they've got 20 years worth of albums since then they didn't play anything from standing on the they've got some good songs recent like more recent songs cuz every now and then I'll you say more recent when are you talking about yeah yeah that's fair I don't still at least years ago like they had a new album come out at some point and then you know what it could have

been that long ago but I remember I put it on and it was mostly forgettable but there was one song that I was just kind of like yeah no this captures yeah them I put it to you that that was around 2002 2003 and that's 20 years ago yeah yeah fair enough I think I remember they when they play they were doing the festival tours out here I remember think I think it's from Brisbane for livid or something they should just have always sounded like burn from the crow burn is and we been one of their albums I know yeah and no other song they sing sounds like that there's one or two that that kind of have that same uh vibe to it but there was just something about the layers I know how they have to be able to do it if you're going to try and mix it up and try be a

new band change your band name be someone new yeah I don't know if you guys are into like 70s era folk rock but um I was watching some Neil Young live listen to that I was listening to some Neil Young you guys are aware of Neil Young right of course you've heard of Neil Young um but I was watching some really old clips and there's a there was a a con live gig where he goes U oh now's that time of the night where I piss you all off by playing songs you've never heard because I've only just written them so sorry about that but I've just written these two new songs and then he plays old man and heart of gold which end up becoming his iconic songs for the next like 50 years but there was a time where he was like sorry about this guy I know you just want to

hear the songs from couple years ago yeah you want to hear the big hits well yeah I don't some some people can do it and some people can't The Beatles were good at it m writing songs they were yeah well even changing Across The Years also the Beatles broke up when they were 29 doesn't that make you feel [ __ ] old and like you've never accomplished anything yeah I don't like hearing about thatu up when they were 29 yeah but then again is depressing Ed as a covers band so we haven't even done that yet no no look we should talk about some uh some of the stuff in here and Luke you uh you attempted a segue or or it seemed like you were attempting a segue I may have got confus between the Watcher and

The Witcher yes yeah no that's a good Oh I thought you were making a joke I yeah I thought he was trying to like tie in I tried to play it off as a joke after but actually no I just got confused and I was like that's quite clever and then uh we never followed up on it but yeah hry gav uh he's not only is he not in the Watcher he's also not going to be in The Witcher so I've got I've got two questions season four number one why and number two why do they think we're going to keep watching this this is the the amount of fun we made of him before this show began when we just heard he been cast to be proved wrong Square against it only to have to eat our [ __ ] words when he was geralt and he made this show what it is I'm not saying like the big thing is

I think it's not just that that he's leaving they're not doing anymore they're replacing him and I don't I don't think Li H is bad choice he's going to be bad it just seems It's and I said after season 4 it's not after season 4 it's in season 4 he's not like basically Henry Cav's done now because they've already filmed season three they finished season 3 that's coming out soon and yeah it's just a a so I saw I saw of a video talking about this where they said that they they suspect it's something to do with the fact that Henry caval had said previously that there was a plan to do seven seasons and he'd be up for all of it as long as it's you know all all based on the source material and it was respectful the books he's he loves it he loves it the games

the books all that stuff he's into it and then there was an interview fairly recently with the creative team behind at the showrunner and all that kind of stuff and they said no we don't really like the books and the games and so now the theory is well that's probably why he's leaving m because they've they've decided to go in a different direction you're being waved at you're being very rude by not hold back you are wearing a mandre t-shirt and there's a mandre news there's mandre news if you can believe it I don't know what that means we'll get we'll come back to it but yeah you think they would have sat down and gone like oh you don't like this Direction look we don't want to lose our star let's make him happy I I don't think it's that I think it's

more so he got pulled away for Superman money well that's that's happened too we about that last week right he's going to do Superman some more so maybe and I think and maybe and I think cuz I saw news today as well and so I've got I got a theory that he got pulled away for Superman money James gun has taken over so he's going hey I have you more in and James gun and The Rock aren't entirely happy cuz with each wants yeah the creative differences happening at the moment the rock wants it to the Future to be more Black adom based of course he does come on rather than Superman so but I think from the sounds of it though this is just what I think is that James gun's taken over he's gone hey I want Superman to be front center I need you be here more here's some money

get whip that mustach time you're not going to have time to film The Witcher anymore yeah right could so number one a lot of number one one day a photo will surface of him in the Superman suit with the mustache and and that'll be a day where i'm truly happy cuz I just I want to see that more than anything else um two he has promised that Superman will not be a miserable [ __ ] in the following films he didn't he didn't say those words I bet he would a Superman filled with joy I think is what he said um and that would be nice because while while I want my Batman dark and brooding my Superman I want of not murder Henry you didn't listen to us you're a small screen star stay away from the big spoke in the movies yeah they'll Eat You Alive

in Hollywood yeah I don't know I just thought he was doing I thought he was doing something of his best work in The Witcher and absolutely yeah Witcher Witcher was good uh the rest of the cast is staying oh well actually sorry the the rest of the cast are expected to stay however I did read in an article that uh that's not confirmed either technically so cuz there only maybe you can probably get a it sounds crazy but you can probably get away with replacing him but if you start replacing too much of the cast come back go Who Am what what's happening like who I think it's fairly fair to say that that they're not as easy to lure away as Henry caval like The Witcher is still probably a big you know and if you

years you know Anya shotra and um go play Siri I forgotten her name but but like Yen Siri all those guys like this is still a big vehicle for them so I'd be surprised if they left but yeah some of the others maybe I don't know was that that guy who played uh uh why can't I think of his name um you know the old Witcher his mentor oh yeah the one that should be Mark haml correct that guy he's quite famous isn't he yes he is in Denmark I think he is proba better stuff to do yeah he might have better stuff to do he's in great stuff and in fact if you like him and you like mads melson which I know you do then you should watch an old Danish movie from the '90s called Pusher which is directed by Nicholas finding reffin where both of those dudes are in there

yeah and I like him too mhm great movie Nick why and in fact there's there's three there's three push Pusher one two and three he made Pusher one and then wanted to make some other movie which failed and then he was in such debt for that he's like [ __ ] it I'll do Pusher two but like I just want to make this perfectly clear I'm only doing this for the cash made Pusher two but it was even better than Pusher one right and then got into some other debt and he was like fine I'll make push a three but just to make this perfectly clear again only the money going to phone this in don't give a [ __ ] made an even better movie like they just got better they're an excellent trilog but maybe he should just stop getting

into debt maybe he should keep getting into debt we're reaping reies yeah loan him some money should we stay on The Witcher before we move on cuz there's some Witcher news which I think this is interesting oh yeah yeah yeah so there it's going to be a Witcher this the original Witcher game evidently there's a remake happening I think this is good news because the first Witcher game is it's a great game but my God it is complicated yes it's it's very it's way less accessible than two and three two two is a little bit clunkier than three three they kind of refined it all but I think if you were a fan of three and you went back to play one you'd be like the [ __ ] because like in three it does help to read up on the monsters you're fighting make sure you've got the

right oils but it's not a necessity in the first one if you didn't go in prepared with the right oils and preparation you were going to be murdered yeah and you only know the right oils because you have to go and look at the go to the market find a book seller find one who's got a book about drowners like and then read the book and it'll tell you the oils and then you know and then you know it's not going to be written in your journal or anything you just have to look at the book like so yeah if they were to go back and remake the wit one but yeah just with like the the framework of wicher three I think would be great to go play that story yeah cuz I really enjoyed Witcher one but I think going back to it would be difficult now just because like yeah

it requires you to to do a lot of work that you wouldn't have to do for and also put out there more people played The Witcher 3 than played The Witcher one and two combined yeah yeah Witcher 2 was very good but probably I guess it's been a while I remember watching you play Witcher 2 Matt and thinking this looks excellent I just don't think I've Got The Moxy to get into this yeah it's I mean there're a lot three is even more but again three three is refined cuz everything is a bit simpler way like they learn they learned what's worth making the player do and what isn't kind of like you do like you do read the books to find out what oil are go for Monster but then it's just you you know that information you can just very easily go look up and find it it's not I

have to go read through this book again or try and remember it's here's what you need and you've got yeah cuz in the first one you've got your different swords and you got to switch between the swords but then you've got fighting styles within the swords and you have to choose the fighting style for the it's just lot of stuff to juggle so anyway I mean maybe they'll keep all that who knows but I doubt it they'll probably simplify it I'm I'm hoping for simplification cuz that way I could then get the game throw it on an easy and play it and just enjoy the story cuz I'm at that age in life where I play on easy now oh yeah which one also has something the other games don't have and that is collectible cards when you bang all the women you bone

every time you sleep with a woman in the game get a little colletible card in your inventory with a picture of a with a tits out even at the time that was something that was being questioned at the time when that game originally came out all those years ago it was a good selling point but yeah there were people saying like should this be that's uh that's one up from having a notch on your bed there was a guy I went to college with that had this um he used to wear all these beads on these bead necklaces and wrists and stuff no no no it was just beads just wooden beads but my friend said to him once why do you have all those beads and he's like just without even looking up just didn't even look up from his computer just goes every time I [ __ ] your mom she gives me one

bead I thought you were going to say he had a like one every time he bangs chicken he adds one if that was the case I'm going to go well that's [ __ ] I know that that's a great story your version is actually funnier than what I thought was he was going to say yes um before we go on I'll just very very quickly mandrian pet mandrian the Dutch abstract painter um okay has had a painting hanging in the Museum of Modern Art in New York for 75 years and this week they realized that um it's been hanging upside down really yeah somebody saw an old book and was like hang on I think this upside down see this is why I don't get uh and I'm looking at I'm looking at CU I got link to the article and I'm watch it makes no

difference at all I mean is this just electrical tape it's just electrical tape put on a board that's not art I mean yeah I don't know does it make you feel something makes me feel like people are getting scammed incorrect correct I like it's got this slider it's like yeah all right I mean yeah I mean yeah I I don't I don't get it either but what's the and and but it does oh yeah it's a donkey now makes sense but I love that that I people are probably arguing that oh like that is much better it's like no you didn't [ __ ] notice F you didn't know either it doesn't make a difference yeah

yeah that's funny yeah this why I'm not allowed to go to Art Museums anymore oh I'm allowed will not go with me I I stopped going to when we had friends in uni who would have um exhibitions I stopped going after there was an incident where somebody did some performance art and I had the giggles and I'm I'm not going to say anymore because I want to I don't want to like yeah make fun everybody you're into what you're into but I I and and our friend Carl my our mutual friend Carl thought this was hilarious and I backed into a painting and knocked it off the wall and uh and I had to leave in shame so I was like you know what yeah oh you kned you knocked up I knocked somebody's painting yeah because there was okay so somebody did a song from The Phantom of the

Opera Matt I was there he was kneeling on the floor right and he had a mask on and he was slapping his own knees yeah yeah and I knocked a painting off the wall cuz I was I was trying to back away why don't I remember the painting getting knocked off I was [ __ ] there well and so I I after that I said I should probably not go to these things that is so funny I cannot I cannot not giggle yeah fair fair and I people like that so go for it but it's just gu notop for me at that exact same Gallery exhibition there was a a piece of video art and I I always approach video art with a certain amount of skepticism and and and one of the main reasons is because at this particular Gallery I said uh it was a it

was a man in his underwear in a drain right that was the video art was just continual of him and I said to one of the your uni friends artists people who was who was there with us um why is this art because I'm a videographer professionally and if I was going to do this I'd shoot it nicely well lit and with the camera on a tripod instead of handheld and she said well that's why but that wouldn't be art and I'm like so the whole reason that this is Art is because it's [ __ ] is that is that what we're saying I um so what the the ultimate for me right uh I want to name any names or anybody but you guys will probably know what I'm talking about we had mutual friends who went to

University and then one night we're at home and uh another friend a friend of one of our friends who was also at University came over and she was freaking out because they had an assessment that was due the next day and she hadn't done anything they had to do some art some do some art right oh and they were sitting around chatting and then in the end what they did they just put her in the bath ped a bunch of milk in and this lady this girl was in the bath crying with milk and it was just they just like pull it out of their ass the night before and then the next day at the exhibition everyone was like oh I get yeah it's really really deep and and then yeah and then she was waffling about what me I was like this is

horeshit yeah yeah I mean I guess good on you but like it just like it just made me think I'm just so skeptical about it all now like like I guess it doesn't mean everybody does that but I was like this is is not see I'm I'm I'm a fens on this because I appreciate classical art and the talent that goes into creating that if you're a sculptor and you can sculpt something that looks like a human being that's art if you're a painter and you can paint something that looks like a human being that's art but I also also kind of appreciate the the the rebels who go well is this [ __ ] art and do something abstract as well I get that because that's eliciting a reaction but sitting in a bath of milk I don't see

how that are well what not only that sitting in a bath of milk and I know you were just like what the [ __ ] can I do what do we have we have a bath and some milk yeah like not like it's not like you know when cuz I I like David Lynch right and I I I'm willing to accept that David Lynch when he if he was to film a girl in a b full of milk yeah there's something there for some reason like there's a reason that he felt like that was a he didn't just but would you think the same if you knew that he just phoned it in the night before I mean that would that would disappoint me because I think he doesn't operate that way you know what I mean like seems like there's more going on I don't necessarily understand what he means but he means something like you know what I mean Mark romanic

who directed The Closer video and a whole lot of other CS that's a good video yeah great video um there's an going tell me he just pulled all that out of there ask no no no but there's no but I love that [ __ ] and all his Clips are great but he said once that he said if a broken chair can contain more resonant potential meaning than an intact chair than break the chair yeah okay and I thought that's that's that made sense that sounded good like in terms of art like if cuz the other thing is too that story I've just told about the the bath thing there might be people out there who are like no no no that's that is Art because it came up you know she was struggling she came up with this idea kind of thing and it's like you know what maybe maybe I'm wrong it's just I'm

looking at it the wrong way literally upside yeah Luke what do you think ah look it's if if you like it you like it if you don't you don't that's I think that's that's the main thing really isn't it and and you have to understand some people may not agree with you and that's fine but don't think that you're better than CU you think you understand some person's art I don't get it no not for me keep me away from this stuff I'll knock paintings Off the Wall I like old art like what that's of things yeah Fine Art yeah yeah it's fine it's fine yeah I guess I'll look at some fine art while I drink some fine wine this this see electrical tape on a board that's not art

it's been hanging for 75 years which means it's old does that not convince you I mean I look I went to the to a uh van go exhibit right and I think some of Van Go stuff is good and some of other stuff I'm like oh yeah like a lot of paintings of some flowers yeah you're can like I I see why this is the famous one and no one ever talks about this 10 over here like yeah yeah when we were over in Europe a couple years ago we went went to like the museum that's for him some of it was quite nice and others yeah yeah but some people like it a lot some people like it I don't get why it's so expensive just make a printer just make a copy you're done hang it up I know maybe buy the nft of it all right then send me a photo sorry didn't mean to derail the show and

I I should have put a trigger warning on that yeah you did I think I think that picture is the night we're talking about unless you can tell me that that was not it because that person wasn't there no no definitely could be yeah y also for a trigger warning no I didn't think so of all people I would not care I I knew you wouldn't care but then you reacted like you did and so I thought oh [ __ ] have I cuz normally I I wouldn't do this to Luke put it that way no no I reacted because and if either of you do it to me you're [ __ ] dead because I was like oh telling me I should shut up about something I should read what this message is and then my face ID wouldn't work and then I was [ __ ] around the phone and I'm like I'm ruining the show right now and then I'm going to open

this and it's just just going to be irrelevant cuz I thought and I thought maybe you going to say oh was the you know the person in the tub you were talking about this person or what anyway whatever oh I'm I'm guessing it was you got it you got it Go of course it [ __ ] was yeah yeah yeah as soon as I started talking about it I was like you know what I guess I could be wrong I mean we're not experts it's in the eye of the beholder yeah is it though cuz I've got a problem with that as well right look uh I want to point out before we go that Luke you and any listeners who are interested who have not got access to do so on a switch or a PC will'll be able to play Return to Monkey Island on your

Xbox via Game Pass or your PC via game pass on November 10th which is I I knew this was going to happen as I said a couple we I didn't think it was going to be so quickly yeah it's only been out what a month look at first I was like oh man but then I was like you know what I don't you played it and you enjoyed it I Ron Gilbert money for the games that I pirated when I was a kid although and then I I thought that and then I remember actually no I gave him the money have a certificate yeah I have a certificate that says I'm exempt and in fact I paid him off too and then forgot my login and never got the game and then bought the game again when it came out on Steam so i' I've actually paid for that wor person for login you know this how many email addresses have you lost

over the years and lost accounts to I'm more careful now no no you know what I'm bad at now you know what and you know what it's not my fault because I [ __ ] hate this right hello Internet listen listen to me if I don't have an account and I think I do and I type in an email address and a password tell me that doesn't exist don't just set me up an account with that because I've already got an account and I've put in my wrong email address so now I've got two accounts and depending on what device I'm on I might forget ande in the other one and you'll let me into that too so now I'm buying things on two eBay accounts just tell me that that's not the address I put in there's two things one is they don't want to do that they want you to buy the

thing they don't care whether you get annoyed that you have two accounts there's that but then the other thing is too with the often they won't tell you if if you try and log in they'll say something's not right they won't tell you if it's the username or the password and that's intentional because otherwise people can just hit with email address and figure out who does and does not have password accounts and that kind of stuff so there two things there but I think the main one that you're complaining about is that they don't have a step in between that says that account doesn't exist do you want to create a new one or did you think you had one that's what they but then that's a barrier as far as they're concerned to you spending money

so but no I got you're right [ __ ] annoying but was quite exciting when I saw that this is coming to Game Pass I will get to play it yeah and I'll get achievement for it I've yet to play it too but I I do own it I've gone [ __ ] nuts with I've I've filled my switch I had to start deleting things i' I've become a collector of games like I am on Steam oh yeah well you can just buy you you probably got an old you've probably got sc's in storage so yeah no I definitely do just not on me yeah and then you don't have to delete them from your account you just delete them from the device um just archive them yeah but I have been playing Resident Evil Village and it is excellent oh it's so good yeah so I think last week I'd only played the

demo where and and it and it was great it was it tempted me to buy the entire game and uh it's great and it runs beautifully even though it's on the cloud and it looks I mean I'm probably glad I didn't pay play the Xbox version first because this looks like a perfectly beautiful the fact that it's running on the cloud it probably cuz I'd hate to see what it would look like running on that Hardware but running on the cloud probably allows it to look a lot better and probably doesn't look much different than playing on the Xbox then Cloud versions of the games that's so fascinating yeah right amazing yeah [ __ ] amazing game where how far are you you in I don't want to I don't want to in the village I'm in the

castle the castle I've fought the dude with the axe and I've killed one of the daughters right you've met what's his name the the merchant yeah the big fat dude yeah and time you see him he's just [ __ ] in the house [ __ ] eating and you're like the [ __ ] are you doing here now I want to play it it's so so good Luke I'm going to finish seven today what I love about it seven was good too oh Seven's excellent but seven in fact at this point s is probably better because it's so scary and it's so insula you're just in that one house for so much of the game creeping around trying not to let Hicks see you and Hicks scare me more than monsters do um cuz I grew up in the west but um and you don't want to sque like a little peig yeah correct um but this is great

because it's it touches on the fear of just stealthily creeping around that seven had but with cool monsters and more of a Resident Evil Vibe um and it's in Eastern Europe so it's also got that like super goth feel it's it's really good I will tell you I talked about this on an episode in the past and I will just warn you again that there is a sequence in this game that I almost had to turn it off because I was it disturbs me so much and I think possibly anyway I'll just leave it at that really okay further than where I am yes yeah cool I was I literally I was playing it and then I I I to pause the game the controller I go [ __ ] man do I want to keep doing this tonight you just described my sex life you put the controller down I just

stop and go [ __ ] do I want to keep doing this tonight or do I just want to spit and be done with it that's all for this week thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show if you enjoyed it then please subscribe and item to receive episodes automatically we'll see you next time