Guess Who’s Cumming To Dinner: No Man's Sky & Borderlands 4

Now, listeners, Luke has chosen you tonight over sex, so I think that you should feel, Yeah. Resolution in a brothel right now, you don't know what's going on under that desk. We don't know I've chosen that yet. I may get a message and I may go. Wow, I'm out. Yeah, fair enough. There's a, there's a girl I I, I get along with on the tour and it's our last night together so I want to go out for dinner with her. Mm hmm. Mm. Hmm.

Yeah, perfectly reasonable. What's on the menu? My cock. Welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts, Matt. Luke. And Dan multiple Nerdgasm, your guide to all things nerdy, no. It's not, I don't know. We're probably going to go out and. Have something I will have inserted? It's like I'll have inserted the opening credits here so. Right there. Yeah, that's right. You. Can. At least, at least something's

getting inserted. Yeah, it. Probably won't, nothing will probably happen, but I I wouldn't mind one. Last night. What are the odds that after? Is she going to watch this later? I hope not. Yeah, I mean, if she does, it won't come out until it'll be too late. Already had sex or already not had sex. So yeah. It's no, it's. Too late. It won't really. Matter by the time this airs.

Not going to. She's going to know what you want, yeah. I'm going to be back in Australia. She's going to be back. She. Already knows what he wants. I'm sure he's made it abundantly clear what he wants. No, I haven't. I'm not very good at dating or hitting on people. It used to be so much younger. Is he when I was younger? There used to be so much younger. Is that what you just? Said it used to be so much easier when I was younger.

I remember going at my 20s and playing spin the bottle with a group of girls and only me being the only guy. Great nights. You can't do that in your. 40s now they now they call the cops. Yeah, yeah. Times have changed. Spin the bottle is probably illegal at this point. I don't know. I thought it was a very consensual game. Everyone knew what those they were getting in for, weren't they? I think there's a peer pressure element to it. You know what?

We don't have to do this. No, let's not litigate. Matt's now a father of a girl and he's just like, I don't want any fucking games where my. Stay out of my country, You stay out of my country. I've played spin, I've played strip spin bottle once. That was fun. OK, is. That the bottles naked. At that point, yeah, why don't you just play spin the Dick? Yeah. Because I will never point at me then and I miss out. But whoever it points. Wait, are they spinning you? They're just spinning you in the

middle. You don't want to fuck yourself, do you, Luke? This week's episode is shaping up to be very different to last week's episode, which contains no jokes and you didn't even hear it so. Well, that's because you you didn't include me, which is I should have probably been here last week. Probably. Look, what have I missed? What's been happening in the world? Because still I'm out apart. What? Are piling up. You need to come into the party

for a Geek of the Week session soon. We have got three weeks worth of dead bodies for you to to. Sort through this. This is my last week on tour and I wait for another week but I'm by myself so I next week I'll be on full show after party not missing out. Are you staying in Vietnam next week then, or are you, yes, going somewhere else? Yeah, I stay in Ho Chi. Yeah, stay in Ho Chi Minh for another three nights and then I'm travelling 2 hours self to a resort to do nothing except swim in a pool to a pool bar, walk to the beach, go back to the pool

bar and sleep. Yeah, yeah. And then you. Left out the drinking, you left out the drinking bit. That's showing you. Everyone knows that's happening. Yeah. Like do I have to say that? I suppose not. Yeah, so remember, I'm in Psych One at the moment and I can't get Ho Chi meet my Huda beer. I have to drink Saigon beer. Hooter Beer. Huda Huda, it's my favorite beer in Vietnam. 01 thing I have done since we last spoke. I rode a bike from Hui to Hoi Anne.

It took me 5 hours, I loved it. Yeah, right. So I decided paperwork. From where to hoi am to? Play to hoi am Oh my fuck yes from your wife to. Yeah, I was. But no, we we need to do this. We all need to get together that and we need to ride from Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh you'd have talked about. The year we all turned 50, that could be a good one. Yeah, bunch of old men. It's actually not that. Far away. So that's something we could actually start planning now. Yeah.

The two thing that you both need to do is get your license and learn to ride. Or. Just I don't think that's a requirement in Vietnam, is it, Matt? Do you know if that's a requirement? I'm not aware of any laws in Vietnam and I'd like to keep it that way. Please I. Believe, especially in Southeast Asia, not knowing the law means you're exempt from the law. You're only you're only held to the laws you know about. I think that's true. That's if we were a bogan

Australian. But no, you should learn to ride because it is very dangerous riding here. Obviously. There are so many people who just come here and go. I'm going to ride a bike, never ridden one before. Dangerous country to ride a bike. Let's do it. It's so cheap life you mean? Life is cheap. Yes, that's true. Please, I'm definitely am I missing shows? Am I missing games? Two months. I I'm watching the news.

We are talking all over each other tonight. There is a lag. I believe Laos. No, we're not Laos now. We're now in Vietnam. Or tag down the bottom, says Laos. Oh no, I'm so sorry. I can't see it. It only says I'm sorry, I'm live from Vietnam this time. Lying from Vietnam. Yep. So you're the first white man to ever embarrass himself in Vietnam? Oh, I'm sure. Sorry, Dan, what are you watching?

Look, I'm I'm watching something that interests neither of you. I'm watching the new season of Rick and Morty, which I'm enjoying very much, but I'm not going to talk about it because the listeners know how much I enjoy it and they know that you guys don't care, so we don't have to go on. There's something about a pickle. Yep, there was 1 singular episode about a pickle and everyone really really latched onto it. Oh really? I thought it was a recurring thing because I see it everywhere.

There's a lot of stuff that recurs that pickle never came back. People keep showing Luke their pickle. It was very funny because Rick turns himself into a pickle to avoid going to therapy with his family, and his family are at therapy. And the therapist is like, yeah, this is This is why you're all here. It's because he will do literally anything to not come to this. Yes, I guess I should watch this show. I don't know it just never appealing but.

Do you like the? History of this show Do you know why this is a show? Was he got fired from community? Yes, but before that happened or no, possibly still after that happened. But so it's it's two creators, it's Dan Harmon from Community and one other guy, right? An animator. And Dan Harmon's like comedy writer, right? His animator made this short film, which is not called Rick and Morty. It was called Doc and Mahdi, right? And it was basically the premise of Back to the Future, except

Doc kept coming and going. Marty, Oh my God. Something happens in the future. You've got to help me. There's only one way you can do it. You've got to suck me off. And. And he's like. What? He's like, Marty, I don't have to, I don't have time to explain. Just start sucking me off and, and and it'll fix the future. And he's like, again, he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got to suck me off again to fix the future. And Dan Harmon thought it was

fucking hilarious. It was like not this but something like this could. Be I could sort of see why he went. Maybe not An old man coming up to a trial and going you've got to suck me off. Yeah, yeah. Like, say, for example, if you were in Vietnam and you were about to go out with a girl that you like for the for the last night, you could maybe say, actually, yeah, I'm from the future. Yeah. So that's the line I should be trying. Yeah, and in the future you get

slapped if you don't suck me off. Yeah, I think I know the one that's going to be getting slapped. Yeah, we're going to play Spin the Dick and it's pouring right at you, darling. Oh. Crap, my sister's listening to this. Yeah, yeah, and I'll be sending it to your mum. Yeah. Oh great. She actually wanted to be here listening to this. And I went, no, you need to leave. Yeah, probably best, probably

best. She kicked her out of the streets of Vietnam. Yeah, get out of here. Well, it's only 5:00 in the afternoon here, so it's not like I've kicked her out in the middle of the night. Yeah, it's. Not a complete bar. No. I say she's probably the bar just because I'm assuming there's a tour group who meet up at the bar, not because I'm saying your mum is a drunkard, for the record. No, it's actually weird. The tour group I've been on, they don't drink.

Really. I know what I heard. The wrong tour. I don't know if. We talked about this, I've heard like kids. And when I say kids, I mean people younger than me because. Whatever generation is now, yeah, coming. Back younger than us, apparently just don't drink very much. Yeah, right. These days and I think. No, it's so weird. Probably. Good, but it's interesting considering just because drinking was so much part of our culture.

Oh yeah. I'm not too much and then not anymore. They're mostly like they're in their 30s for most of the group and they're all not really. They'll go out and have like 1 hotel dinner, whereas I wake up and at 9:00 AM I've got my walking beer, then I've got my bust beer, then I've got my temple beer. Temple Beer Shalom. There would be a plain bee, there's a bus bee, taxi bee, walking bee. They all know me so well now. The beers. The the tour group, they actually started calling.

Do you have your walking bee or your bus bee? It's going to be sad. I'm actually going to miss them. Yeah, I'm going to miss. Both of them I. Miss the beers? I'm going to miss that old alcoholic. Yeah, I kind of miss being able to walk down the street with an open container of alcohol. It's funny thing is, is doesn't really been. I've only been drunk a couple of times. Yeah. I mean, how do you tolerate a? Lot like. But but if it never ends, that

one time could stretch out into quite a long. No, I feel I just instantly sweat it out. I. Was warm there, yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's not. It's warm. It's about 30 plus all the time, but the humidity is like 70 to Oh yeah every day. That's so Mexico was like like, Oh yeah, why like a month ago? Fucking yeah. Brutal. Yeah, it's not the heat. The heat's fine. I can deal with the heat. It's the humidity.

But it's also, if you were in Australia and it was that hot, you'd just stay home, you'd just stay indoors. But here, you'd still have to go on your tour, that's what. You know, that's what I kept thinking when we were there, right? It was so I was thinking, oh God, it's so fucking hot here, like walking around in Merida. But then I'm like, it's not like, but it's just, it is that humidity, I think. And then also, I think I've just been here so long now that I'm. Like you just get used to it. I'm just I'm a pussy now when it.

Comes to that. Oh there, when we're in pact, we've got a couple of people to meet up with. We've got an Irish lesbian couple. Lick those people by their stereotypes. And then we've got another just couple from Melbourne. You have it. Look at that. Excellent. It arrived. I pick up my media pass in a few days. Let me get there. No, you didn't. Oh no, I didn't miss the window for that.

Missed the window for getting refunded my ticket price. Oh, I'd never refund. We give them away. You're going to give a ticket to? No, I didn't get a ticket away. What do you mean? Oh, they'll give me a media pass to replace this. Is that how it works? You no you get a media pass and when you give the three day pass away to a listener. Right, so that's what I'm saying. The media pass will replace my three day pass. Yes. Yes, OK.

We're going to give it away. I've already given my way one to the Irish lesbian couple, OK? Though he's splitting it. Away. Well, it doesn't sound like I'm going to suck. My dad said it that way, but it's not. Going to be there then they won't. Listeners right in. If you want this, you know what you've got to do. It's pointing at you. Jesus. Christ, oh, like how this is, this is going out this week. This is going out last week, not going out.

I feel like things have things. I don't understand the world anymore. Because we we made 0 jokes last week and we still listened back and went. We can't. End. We better not. Just in case. Yeah, we better not. You, me, me here when we get to those tricky areas. It's not even that, Luke. It wasn't that. It's just that topic is just it's I mean. Embargoed. We can't touch it. No.

Well, Jimmy Kimmel touched it, and look what happened to him. Yeah, exactly. We didn't say anything bad or anything. We just talked about it and we're like, you know what? Not worth the risk. No one should be murdered for their beliefs. No better how much you do not agree, you won't understand. 1000 percent 1000% agree with that that's. Basically, that's it. We're saying that that's it. Yeah. We can't get in trouble for that, can we? Yeah, if we can't have a

conversation, but I also don't think something's wrong saying things about. That should be murdered either. I think just nobody should be murdered. For for, no I think. Or at all Ideally, or at all. Yes. I mean, ideally, yes. Ideally, no one would be murdered at all. Yeah. That murder better place. You'd be proud of us, Luke. Actually, you should go back and listen to oh, you can't. We didn't air it, but we did record a show last week and it it was in what I would say is a

very sensitive and careful deconstruction of what was going on. Probably quite boring. Comparatively, because we were so around. Yeah. And then even with all that, we still decided it's probably not right to publish it right in the. Can you give it to our patriot? Patriot Oh, they've got it, They've got it. They got. It they can't go, they know what we're talking about Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean they paid in advance so you know I just. Don't really.

Yeah, we work for them in if anything. Yeah, after like, Jimmy Kimmel got fired for nothing. Not just let's. Just stay away from. It there's a lot of, there's just been a rating, it's been going. It's literally top. Down and down for a long time, OK? It's the whole coincidence that had happened. Yeah, yeah. The whole topic is just fucking radioactive right now, so. Evidently, the Disney Plus. Cancellation page has crashed because of.

I saw that. Going cancelling the subscription subscription. All right, So what are we talking about? What's fun? What's been happening? All right. I've got some follow up. Excellent. Unrelated, that patent we talked about the other week, we were talking about how Nintendo has patented so many characters, making them fight. We talked about all that stuff. OK, there's been some clarification. Apparently, again, not a patent lawyer, but apparently the

patent isn't so broad. It's not. No, apparently what it says is that OK. This is from the Verge. The patent outlines the process by which, after the player has summoned a sub character, for example Pokémon, the game software would determine whether to initiate a player controlled battle, an automatic battle with the sub character, or automatic movement by the sub character. That's what the pattern is for. So if the pattern is to say. Seems like something that Pokémon alone shouldn't have. Soul. Rights to like they still say

like Final Fantasy and the summons. Well, that's a little different because you don't control that character, right, do you? Automatic balance. Oh, do you? There's some automatic funds and some renewal. Maybe actually control the? Maintenance coming out now. Well, they said like it may not stand up anyway in court because it. I don't think it will. Yeah, but it's just that everybody was saying, oh, they've. They've to sue. Patented basically like

summoning Pokémon and it's like no, no, no, that's not what it. Is yeah, OK. It's more easy. Games where you summon things. There's a Digimon game where you do exactly the same thing you should do in Pokémon. Yeah, and that's we did. Digimon owe owe a lot to Pokémon though, don't they? It's probably not the best example to cite. That list of all the. Names very unique IP. How can you now come from a patent that there's already been copies of the four computer games that are well established? They do that sometimes, don't

they? They give you. If a patent gets granted, they'll go after people who already had shit. Retroactively that. Would happen with Candy Crush. Remember when they came out and they were going after any game that had candy or matching game and then they eventually had to give up on it because the judge went like, if you're going to enforce this, you need to go after every single thing and it's just. Yeah. Too much money and time to know the. Lawyers were salivating.

Yes. No, no. I think Nintendo's lawyers are always salivating. I mean, that's certainly the impression I get. They're very litigious for such a like mild bended company. Yeah, like they, you see them in the, in the fucking Nintendo direction, They're like, oh, please enjoy this game. Yeah. Like they're so polite and then they're like, oh, we will fucking sue you, yes. But it's amazing how world they got. I think they've been sued once for one character.

Couldn't what's too could. Be the name of that. Yeah, but they've sort of been allowed to go, but pretty much everyone just refers it to as Pokémon with guns. Yeah, it's Breath of the Wild meets Pokémon with guns. Guns. I mean, if that's how they sold it, I could be talked into that. That's what it looks like. You should keep it a try not game pass I think is it. Yeah, OK. I've gone back to a game that is almost 10 years old again this week because they released a new update. Almost 10 years old.

Yeah, it'll. Interest you, Luke? No Man's Sky. That's right, No Man's Sky. Oh really? Oh, is that 10 years old? Yeah. Jesus. Well, it hasn't it been a game for 10 years. Yeah. Oh, that's ten years ago, but yeah, it was released now when this game, Yeah, it came out in 2018 on Xbox, but I think. It came out earlier on Sony. 20CC yes it's almost 10 years old. So No Man's Sky released a new update where you can build your

own ship, like kind of like in Starfield, except it's literally just, you have pieces of ship and you just shove them together and make stuff. And I was like, fuck yeah. And now I'm like, this happens every 12 months probably. They put out an update. It's just a massive, incredible update that I'm and I sucked back into the game. I had a look at this at like around 2020 or so when when it had stopped being not a game, but still wasn't really a game. Sure, and I found it quite mesmerizing in a in a strange way, but it didn't hold my attention for long.

Pretend I've never heard about this and sell it. What? Why should I? Write this so you wake up on a planet and you don't remember who you are or how you got there and your suit is like, dude, you need to get some fucking juice into the suit or you're going to die. So you wake up, you collect resources with your gun and stuff to fix your suit, and then you find your ship, which has been crashed. And then through a series of events, you find like a message from someone called Artemis, which is all garbled.

And it's like, you've got to, you've got to find me, you've got to help me. And then you go out into the world. OK, I'm in the. Universe rather, and you can now you get you can buy a freighter and frigates and have a fleet and send them off on missions and you can like literally just fucking land on your freighter and walk into down into the command center of the freighter. You'll also build bases and bases to start doing. Characters in this game, there weren't really anyone else in the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There are. They're still there, but you need to learn their language. That's true. Not all of them. Some of them can not. For some, you know, if they're important plot people, they can speak. I don't know, I just think there needs to be a little bit more of a story to it and it would really pull me. There is a story, but it is very like you can do or you can not do it. Yeah, like, yeah. Like, well, it sounds like at this point there's more of a story than, say, Conan Exiles

had, you know? Yeah, yeah, definitely. There's definitely a plot you can follow, but The thing is I'm constantly getting distracted by things like so currently I've built myself a Corvette out of parts that I've collected. So you, you basically literally like here's a habitation piece and then you bolt on the wings and you bolt on the cockpit and you just put shit together. And then you go inside it and you go, OK, I'm going to put my bed there. And you just build this fucking ship like however you want. It's incredible. And and then now you can.

One of the most annoying things is if you want to get some resources, you fly around the planet and then you find what you want. Then you have to land and then get out and go get some stuff and then take off again. Not anymore. You just stop your fucking Corvette in the air. You can beam get out because you can walk around in your ship. Right. Yep. Right. You walk up, beam down to the planet, get some stuff, beam back up. You don't even have to land

anymore. It's fucking awesome. But even the landing was fun because you would fly your ship to the planet and then fly in and just land your ship. It wasn't a loading screen. It was. That's right. And if you want to go through the app. This year. Fly up, fly to the other planet, and then they land on it. Amazing. And like when it came out, there wasn't any of the game stuff. Basically, it was based. You fly from planet to planet, collect resources, and that's

what you want yourself. Yeah. And so it's kind of like AK, but like, what's the point of it? But the technology aspect of it already at that point was incredible because it was all procedurally generated worlds and all this kind of stuff. Whereas now they've, like I said, over the 10 years, they've just added all these to me, really compelling game systems and stuff into the world. And the other thing that I find absolutely amazing is it's not not paid DLC. No, that's the. Other thing and it's just they're just releasing these

massive updates for nothing. So I bought this in 2018 when it launched for Xbox and since they just keep giving me more and more stuff it's like amazing. I think it's because it was only like a team of like 12 people who made the original game and they made that much money at the start. They're just we're going to just keep giving you stuff. Yeah. Wow, I can't wait for No Man's Sky 2 are. They even working on that. I don't know if they are, but I'd like to have. 2 There will not be a No Man's Sky. 2 They're just focusing on continuous

updates and expansions. Oh yeah, because that's the other thing. Every every month there's a new expedition now. So this will eventually become No Man's Sky 2. Yeah, exactly. It's just, it's just continuing and continuing. And then yeah, expeditions, like for example, the way I got my ship pieces is I did an expedition which is centred around the shipbuilding aspects. So you basically you get a whole bunch of quests, go out and do all this stuff and at the end of it, I had this ship that I'd built like when I was doing all

this stuff, it was. Awesome. I'm looking forward to the November because normally what they happened, they have the Mass Effect crossover in November so I might be able to get the Normandy. That'd be cool. I. Have a cool. I have a cool normal fighter ship too, which has solar sails that come out of the sail. It's fucking sick guys. It's so cool. It is they really like. It's such a redemption. Story. I load it up and I'll play it

constantly for like 3 weeks and then I'll get distracted with something else and then I'll come back to it in a year's time and then forget how to play it. It's honestly, it's better than Starfield for me in that it's got it's, that's just kind of, for me, a good blend of like there is a plot, but it's like it's just on the edge kind of thing where it's just like like, oh, you've got a, you know, I'm over here, come and find me or whatever. Like it's a little vague and you can fill in, you have to fill in some blanks yourself. Whereas, you know, stuff feels very like literally like go and

collect 7 things. This is. More I feel really missed the mark. Yeah, which is different. What I mean by is No Man's Sky is is like when I say there's a plot, it's not like the Galaxy is in danger and you need. To. Stop the evil, blah blah, blah. It's, it's more like existential than that, yeah. You need You don't know who you are, and you're trying to. Yeah. What is your purpose kind of thing? Way better I feel. I feel like I don't remember

that so many times. Starfield I played once and when OK, I'm done. And you can build your ship in Starfield, but. Not yes you can. To this degree like this you I don't think anyway, right Starfield, you can't bolt all the pieces on or you can't a bit. No, you could, yeah. You're a pimple that's been built like Melanie and Falper. Yeah, you're in. The showers. And well, same in this now. OK, let me show you. Hang on. Reddit.

Sky Star Destroyer. Here we go. You're not going to relieve this shit. I'll put it down the bottom. Somebody built this in No Man's Sky. This is their. I'm just going to trust you because I have no access to the spreadsheet. Well. Look at the height. Look at that. Look at that, isn't that fucking? Ridiculous now? Jeez. OK, that is detailed. People have far too much time on

their hands to be able to do this type of stuff. They said 10 or 20 hours of work took them to do that. Isn't that nuts? And then all the comments are like, that is fucking incredible. Like, yeah. I'll look at that next week. I'll send you a picture of mine later on. I want to know the age of that guy because I'll bet he's like 15. Guys, what is going on? Oh, Speaking of games, Speaking of games, a game came out. Borderlands 4 is out. Oh, that did, didn't it?

Yeah, yeah. Is it good or bad? From what I hear from what I hear it's the best Borderlands since Borderlands 2. Which is a positive. Yeah, review, as far as I'm concerned, I haven't played it. I have seen though there have been some a lot of people on PC complaining about performance issues. Yes, I did read about this. It ready because you're going. It's full of shit. Ready. Pitchford is just fucking arguing with these people and I'm like, Randy, what are you doing?

Like literally he's like you fuck off. Get a bit of PC you Dick head. Like on Twitter, but not verbatim. Like come out said like this points .01% of the actual complaints are actually real. Yeah, he's, he's like going hard. OK, so it's it's not that he doesn't believe them, it's just that he thinks. They're. Fucking you got a performance issue? You're probably not meeting the specs. He he said like this game is great at 30 frames a second, so

just fucking shut up and play it like this is is how he's kind of approaching this thing. And then there's also this article here where somebody thinks, oh, sorry, a bunch of people think this is conspiracy theory now that Randy has got a burner account on Twitter where he's joining in arguing with people that he's already arguing with on his main account because they're like looking at the comments and it's like, it's basically, it's like 2 Randy pitch friends are yelling at everybody now, but it's like this burner account. And also the username for that account is Mike Hunt's Itchy and

every this says username Mike Kansichi. There's exactly one person whose sense of humor that appeals to, and it's Randy Pitchford. I don't. Know I also find that amusing, but no I I do think sometimes just. Admits to. This is where there applies. For example someone said maybe fix your game and then to Randy Pitchford and then this this other account replied the games fine. Like for real no issues in PC or PS-5 pro and a lot of play time. Try dusting your console or upgrading your potato.

People think that's Randy like in another. Account. Do you think that sometimes people need to accept that you can't play on Ultra and then you need to maybe flow? Were you setting sometimes? I watched the video. That's not that's not that's not it. That's not it. No, from what I understand, even if you dial it back, the performance like it's I don't have it, I don't play it. I'm not going to play it on PC. Even if I get it. I'll play it on my Xbox. But apparently the performance

is bad regardless, and it's more annoying to people that he's just like saying, no, it isn't that. It's like, what the fuck, You do it, man. Just like apologize or and move on or whatever. Apologize doesn't even make sense. I guess. Just like acknowledge like OK, fine. People finding people want 60 frames or higher. Yeah, actually 120 frames. Apparently people want these days. Yeah, that's the new but. They're not.

They're not getting it. It's. A lot of frames, but. Even at the like at the start, like we started when that was 30 frames, I just started to notice it and then and now we're in, it's used to it. I think. I never got used to it with Starfield. I was like, really a game like this to, to, to, to go back to a low frame. Rate it goes 60 frames now, right? Yeah, yeah, maybe. I think, I don't know. I haven't played it since I finished it the first time

because. Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right, I forgot. When you finish it, it starts again or something, right? Yeah, and you go to a random universe and some stuff changes and. I guess that's kind of cool. If you wanted to play it another 50 times. Before we move off of games, yeah, again, that we all enjoyed was Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. I thought it was a great circle. You thought it was a pretty good circle. I loved it. I just got a game breaking bug

and I hasn't played. The game breaking bug was you weren't good enough at playing it to fucking jump from one thing to another. I was making that jump every time I could find the vibe. Strange. Strange that you didn't finish the game then. Matt and I did anyway. Bethesda have pulled a tweet, deleted the tweet, deleted an X, whatever they had posted on the day that somebody was shot in the neck. I won't say whom. They posted a clip from the Great Circle, which is getting a lot of buzz at the moment.

It's not just completely random. They have the DLC coming out and you know. Just. Moving out on other other. I'm looking forward to it. But they just had footage of him bending down to pat a cat and saying you don't care about fascists, do you? And that's. Right. And everyone was like, sorry, you're having a go. How? Interesting. Well, that would have been done maybe months ago, maybe. No, that would have been done months ago before this happened.

Yeah, I mean, it could. Yeah, it it very well could be a coincidence. There's no like that would have been done. And yeah, months ago, before maybe like 6 months ago, or maybe they didn't set that up last week is what I'm saying. OK, so they've removed it and they've just not said anything. Is that? Yeah, no comment, but they've just. Deleted it. I mean, that's probably wise. There's nothing you could say that would be that's. It's a shame, right? Because I feel like it's pretty

easily explainable away. If he needed to, you could say, Oh yeah, sorry. Because just for context, but also he's talking about literal fascists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fighting. He fights Nazis. And the fascists. If anyone doesn't know Indiana Jones, he fights Nazis. But the problem is he's. Fascists. He's in Italy in this one. Oh, that's true. You're right. Literal fascists. Yeah, you're right, You're right.

The problem is, is a lot of people, even though he's doing that, they still think that's a reflection on certain people who we're not going to say. And it's, I think, I think people need to think about if they think they're being related to that, maybe you should think about. Well, your. Beliefs a little bit. That's not fair because this they know that that other people say that about him. So it's like. Well, there was that Fox News anchor who a little while ago said that that white people should reclaim that word and

start saying, yeah, what are my artsy? You know, even I remember like three months ago, four months ago, I saw someone who was walking down the street or I was on Instagram. I walked down the street with, we should give fascist fascists a platform. And it was the gallows. And people came up to them and went, what are you going to get mega? And they're sort of like, this is about Nazis, what are you talking about? Like. And it was, yeah, OK. Well, I think I I do think this

is explainable, but I also think the best thing that they can do is just say nothing. Quietly just. Even if you give them a give a perfectly reasonable explanation, it just continues the conversation, which at the moment is just seems like it's not a good idea. No. And to me, there's a very easy explanation for it. But just quietly, just no. Move on like we're about to do. Quietly move on. All right, I did play something this week actually, but I mean, very, very briefly, I, I have wanted to get back to the

Drifter and, and complete that, but I hadn't. And so I, I, I popped in, I'm in the, I'm in the facility mat and I've just, I've just gotten into the machine with the detective. So that's where I'm at. But that's where I had to stop. But fuck, what a game. What a great game. Yeah, everything, everything that's, yeah, it's the one we saw at at Patch last year. Yeah, Australian named Dave. But it's not just made by an Australian. It is an Australian game. It's a set in Australia. The. Main character.

His name's Mick and he's like, oh, that was fucking going on here. And he? Cans, Yeah, yeah. And we're going to talk to him. Yeah, we will if he's there. If they're there, you should. Yeah, yeah, it's everything that was good about the old point and click games, but with this kind of modern yeah makeover, it just makes it like you're not playing a retro game, you're playing something very intuitively modern, but. Yeah, he said. They did it. Hits you right in that retro part of your heart so.

He said he was always he'd been working on the the idea for for a long time. And then they did, they do a game jams, they make little dual point and click games for game jams. And he said they did want to fix the name of it, but it was it for an adventure game thing. And the beginning part of the game, you wake up and you've been hung and you've got to really quickly try and like figure out how to get out of the the noose. And it was it's like a very kind of like intense version of an adventure game because you know that kind of stuff.

But point click eventually games are kind of more meandery and and like stuff, whereas the drifter is not. It's very fast-paced and like like, but I usually. Hate point and clicks that have time limits on things. No, but this, the way it's done is, is not this. Yeah, there's a It's part of the story, almost. And he's absolutely part of the story. Yeah, but he said people really liked that particular just that section of this game jam thing they did so much that he was like, maybe that's the the thing, That's the.

Game, Yeah. OK, so it's the very, yeah, like I said, something happens, you've got to react reasonably quickly. Except you don't. You just have to figure out what to do. Like, yeah, it's and yeah, it's done very well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hopefully he'll be at PAX and we can have a chat to him. Yeah, that'd be good. He's a very nice guy from what I can tell. I mean, I guess I just see him on YouTube. He might be a prick, but I doubt it.

Well no, we had AI figure. I remember we had a quick chat to him last year and he seemed pretty nice. We did. Yeah, to play spin the Dick. It was. At this time. No. All right, Maybe next time. It's going to. Happen this time in in like 3 weeks time, it's going to be right at him this. Is happening. Happening. Speaking of Dicks, got some some news about Marilyn Manson. I guess this is follow up. Marilyn Manson.

He hasn't heard about his Dick though. No, no, he's he's had a new album out and stuff. He's been, he's been doing stuff. But this past week, Chloe Savini, he was an actress was. She's an actress that I would have thought could be friends with Mariner Manson without me going. What? They're friends. Right, yeah, I, I didn't really even, I, I was like, oh, OK, people were weirded about, I guess I, I, I get why, but it's just, I don't know. Yeah.

So anyway, what happened is they were at an event in in Los Angeles. Emmy's toast. Emmy's after party. Yeah, Emmy's after party and she was in photos with Marilyn Manson looking like they were friends kind of thing, and people got really mad about it. Yeah. And what made me mad? Because he's been accused credibly of some some pretty gross stuff. Horrible stuff. Yeah, yeah. By his. By his I. Forgot about Rachel Wood?

So just to be clear, does that mean no one can be friends with him? Is that what we're saying? Is that what people are saying? And I'm not saying it shouldn't be that, but I'm just saying, is that what it is if you've done something bad? Fuck, no one will be friends. No one should be friends. The thing I always hate is is to be accused. It could not be the end unless it's reported and gone through courts and stuff. It's I always find it this one hard when we cancel people before well, this one I think right did it.

She, at least I don't know about that. There's a documentary about it that actually. I mean, I'm not aware of him ever having. Really upsetting. I'm not even sure he even denied it to be honest. I don't, I'm not. I'm not saying I'm saying I don't remember if he did. I think maybe she accused him and he just went away. For a while. Yeah, that's what I think that's. What I recall. Happening like he didn't respond, he just.

Yeah, which I mean could be. No, I think there was more to it than that because there's there's a there's a whole film made about this. So there must have been some OK pushback or they or they couldn't have been. But his, his, his argument might have just been like, you don't go out with Marilyn Manson if if you wanted real vanilla. Sure have. You seen like radio clips? You don't play spin the Dick with this guy and you don't want the Dick. Yeah, I don't want to make light of it, but I'm I'm just saying I think.

Yeah. No, no, no, no, it was. I think he he's saying that that lines were meant to be blurred. Whether? Well, she's apologized and said that she she had. Apologized well. Yeah, sorry. Everybody has not apologized. Nothing to apologize for. Chlo Savini has apologized for the photos, said she just didn't think about it to be honest. Yeah, sorry. She is licking him in one as well. Yes, she said something nice. I mean, they just drunk at a party.

At him before. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I'm really sorry. You're absolutely right. She's what? She said. We unexpectedly ran into Marilyn Manson and Jonas in the lobby of the hotel. We're fans of Jonas. I don't know who Jonas is. Who's Jonas? Don't know the other person in the photos. As both a musician and film maker, and in the moment, I wasn't thinking clearly. Clearly I had too much to drink. I didn't consider how

appropriate or hurtful it might be to be photographed with Marilyn Manson. And then I'll lick. The collapse, yeah, but she's drunk and it was a bunch of celebrities hanging out like I I can see how you would. Are they not celebrities? You would lick Luke if you had the chance. I'm licking a lot of them. I mean, like if I was at a party and Marilyn Manson was there and he was like trying to get a photo, if he asked me, Julie or the group of people were like, should we all get a photo? I'd be like yes. Yeah, I wasn't going to lick.

You and I wouldn't think I honestly, in the moment would not. Afterwards I might, but in the moment I wouldn't think people might not like that I'm in a photo of. Course. I wouldn't think of it at the time. And like, I wouldn't take the picture and then send it to Evan Rachel Wood being like, oh, fucking look who I'm like, do you know what I mean, Like. To be clear, we don't know for a fact that close to Vinnie did that Dan is. I'm not saying she is suggesting.

It may have happened. No, she didn't. She put it on social media and said look who I met. Yeah. And I think from what she's saying, her focus was on the other person, not on Marilyn Manson. Marilyn Manson. Then why did she? Not licking him though. Because yeah, yeah. Because they were, you know, yeah. You're right, I guess. You lick. Who wants you to lick them right? I was going to say.

That's always been my motto. If if. It's better than. If it was, there's a like, I'm trying to think of an example. If it was Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson and I was getting a photo with them and I was like, I'm going to lick one of these guys. Who do you think's up for it? It's not fucking Trent Reznor. Do not Trent Reznor without his consent, Matt. Yeah. Or at all. You're not. You're not getting the one with. You will not be getting his separate.

People, fuck he is he? Is will not play spin the Dick with you if they. Were both up for it? Which one would you want to lick? Obviously it's trick, but yes, he's not up for it. No, he's not up for it. I said, are you in? I met him once and I. If you were. Swimming and he said absolutely not and I was dragged from the building. Yeah, if you were swimming in Jack Nicholson's pool and you swam past Roman Polanski swimming the other way, and he was like.

Quick photo, I'll get back on the way past. Like that. Like the Mcpoyle sister when it does that. Oh. Yeah, it's a quick, quick little Polanski. That's what they call it. No, sorry, that's something else. That's something else. Anyway, we should move on. We know what that is. Luke knows what that is. Luke, have you watched the latest season of Always Sunny? No, I've been away to. That it's a short season. It's very short.

It's oh really progressively funnier. And the last episode might be the funniest thing I've ever seen, not just of the show, but in my whole entire life. It's very funny. So funny. And you also need to watch The Naked Gun. Oh. Yes, I've got a lot to watch when I get home. Yeah, I'm happy I don't go back to work for a couple of weeks, so. Do you still have a job, Luke? Have they really let you just take all this time off? Yeah, I don't get back until

like late 18th or something, yeah. Right. And then and then you've got to take a couple of days off of packs. No packages before that. Oh, you go back after. Oh OK, I've got another date. I'll get back after packs. Got it. Yeah, right. Dan, have you watched any more Alien Earth? I've watched, yeah. I'd watched one episode when I told you that I'd watched one episode and liked it. I've since watched one more episode, which I also liked, so

I'm only two in, so I I can't really say much. All right. I did really love when they knocked on that fucking apartment door and there were just fucking people dressed as aristocrats having a party and they refused to leave. And then they go in one minute later and there's just fucking body parts of aristocrats and there's one with no legs trying to crawl away. Cool. Pretty. Cool. But then to your point, Matt, an alien then just jumps through this window and like fucking

comes like this, Adam. And it's like, oh, I didn't know they could do that. Yeah, and also it just ripped up a room of how many people? And it's like. One person. It's like the one the one main character. It's like, yeah, like, all right, all right. Anyway, I've watched up to where there is the the only episode left is the season finale. I'm still, you know, I mean, I'm watching it. It's not. You're watching it, but you don't know if you'd like it. It's not.

I know it's not what I want, but it's got stuff in there that I like. So I'm still watching it, but it's it's still very like, why are we doing that? Like. So she's got stuff when I get back. But you're like, why are we doing this? What if I'm watching first I do Naked gun, then always and then Alien. Earth, yeah, I'd say that's probably the order to do it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. OK, then. And then if you're.

Really bored Rick and Morty. I'm going to start at episode 1 for that. Episode 1's fucking great start at episode 1. There's not been any dud episodes. That's, that's not, I don't know, I'm scared of the, the fans of Rick and Morty. I mean, I they're. Not fancy to worry. About these days, I do have pickle socks. I do have pickle socks. So yeah, my mother-in-law is not happy about it. Which isn't. Sometimes she comes over to just help with like laundry and stuff

and she she always tells me when like clothes that I own aren't good. And she's like, what? You walk down the street with this? No. And she'll put it in a separate socks. I love it. No, no, that was not socks. That was something else. A pair of shorts I had when she was like no, no, no, this is no, this is not we. Could get her to do my washing and see what happens. And then she she came across the pickle socks and she was like, whose socks are these?

And I was like, mine. She's like, no, I don't like this is not OK. That's awesome. I, Jenna and I started to watch season 2 of Wednesday. Oh yeah, and we both fell asleep halfway through the first episode. That's not necessarily a statement about the show. Were you just tired? We have a, We have a child. You know it, it can be like, that's something. Kudos for even trying to watch a show together with your spouse. We don't even try to do that anymore. Yeah, that's, yeah.

Alien Earth. I've been able to watch because I can just watch it, you know, when I have a moment, you know? You watch separately and just. Yeah. Discuss like. That's the coordination part. That's yeah. Because one of us is usually got to be doing something with with lira. So, yeah, yeah. I have a question that you may or may not know the answer to the gentleman that was accused of something from season 1. Oh, I forgot about that. Monsieur de la Ponytail, I don't know his name.

Completely forgot about that. Is he back? He gone. I has. He been recast I. Guess I don't know. I do not know the answer to that. I forgot that that had happened and also I've only watched half of an episode and they literally. I had forgotten because that one really terrified me because someone said something online. He he said, well, that didn't happen. And can somebody else who was there back me up? And everyone else who was at

that party went, yeah, yeah, yeah, that definitely didn't happen like that. And Disney went, we're still in a SEC. Yeah. Yeah, that's fucked up. Well, I don't know, didn't I? Didn't they settle with Corona? Well, not Corona. Corona, Gina. Yeah. Corona as well. Yeah, yeah, it's. Maybe if they didn't, they. Isn't he admitted that it was a mouse disease? Corona, yeah, we talked about that a little bit. I think people are like taking

it as some sort of indication. But I think the the the speculation was that in California, a verbal agreement can be binding. And if she can create enough doubt that whether they told her because they did say she was going to be in that show. Yeah, with the pilot. And then the theory is that her lawyers said, sorry, Disney's lawyer said she'll win just on that basis because there was an expectation that she was going to be. In a show show. Doesn't matter. Yeah. So that's the theory is that's

why they settled. Because and they settled OK. There was an expectation that she was going to be in that show, and then there wasn't anymore, so. I'm sort of upset we're not getting the X Wing show. No, we're getting we are getting the X Wing movie. But I want the Ryan to be a show 1. Is you don't know what you're getting. If it hasn't already been made, you don't know what you it's. There's photos from the Ryan Gosling one. They're filming that now, Ryan. Gosling's doing in Star Wars.

He's a starfighter. It's like it's. Like Mia Goth's in that one too, right? That's right. That one, yeah, it's. Me. Yeah, I love Mia. Me. Too. I want to watch Frankenstein. Which? She is in. Yes, Guillermo del Toro down for that. I got a slight Segway from the Wednesday thing actually. Did you guys know this? I didn't know this. I was not aware I.

Didn't know until I read it in the spreadsheet. Yeah, I have learned this week that Tim Burton and Monica Bellucci have broken up, and I did not know that they were together because I didn't know that she'd split with her husband, to be honest. No, I didn't know that either, Vincent. Cassell I mean, not, not suggesting that I thought I would have a chance, but yeah, no, I don't know. She didn't text. Me, I don't know if you text me. Yeah, actually I've left Vincent just to text Monica. What's the?

Yeah, I don't know I you have. To be weird that you were worried about having a chance that you're happily married I'm. Obviously, I'm obviously joking. Hey and he's clearly joking because her, Monica and Vincent Carcel had an open relationship so he he could have banged either one of them. Are you fucking kidding me? No, they, they have, they, they each have, they have like a well, clearly they've broken up now, like, but this is news to me, right? They have their had their like country manner that they live in the countryside of France, but they also have this crash pad in

Paris somewhere where one of them can just go if they want to have a Flint with somebody. Yeah, right. Well, this article says that Tim Burton were were an item for two years, which indicates that that was not the case anymore to me. Right? I just didn't know about this. What's that? Since Betelgeuse? Since Betelgeuse or. Since she was in dark shadows, which I guess is where they might. No no, I'm thinking of Eva Green. Was she in dark? Shadows good.

No, Eva Green was in dark shadows. Dark. Shadows came out during that time where I would have said I was literally not interested in anything. Tim Burton had to offer any mug. Shadows a while ago. Wednesday was what changed that for me. Yeah, Wednesday was good, but I didn't. I didn't bother with Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. I don't care. When did we get Beetlejuice? Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice.

Oh my God, what have? You done. You know that's coming. They met in 2006. No. It was a brief meeting. They were both in long term relationships with other people at the time. They literally reconnected in 2022. When When they started. Burton with a Lumiere award at the Lumiere Festival in France and then OK. They were. So in other words, it doesn't have to be a movie. These people, these people just meet.

At. The gangs as well, yeah, We always think there has to be something visible, but they're very busy people and they, their friends are celebrities. Fair enough. And they have now split up. Now's my chance in birth. I've. Seen, like I said, the the thing that I saw this and I was just like, that's weird that I didn't know that they were together. They're two people that I know and like. Yeah, and I also know who else he's been banging. You know, like I'm always somebody.

Bottom Carter and. Yeah. And then Lisa Marie and. That's right, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I don't think they always announce who the well. No, no, no, no. But it's usually I guess. I guess maybe the biggest take away from this is Tim Burton and Monica Belushi are not newsworthy anymore because all just didn't know about this. Tim Burton is because he's is he good graces again? He's back. That's why we know about it. That's why we know about the split.

Because. Yeah, but at the time they got together, no one cared. No one cared. I remember when the only reason I knew the name Tim Burton was because Batman was out and everyone was saying Tim fucking Burton and I was like. That's when I learned what a Tim Burton was, and a composer, obviously, because I was like, who the fuck did this music? Danny Elfman. Who the fuck is Danny Elfman? He's from a band. Who is this? Interesting that band make a cameo in Back to School, the Rodney Dangerfield movie

starring Robert Downey Junior. They'll tell you. Listen to Billy Corgan has a podcast. Did we talk about this? Billy Corgan has a podcast. Billy Corgan has a podcast. Does he complain he only gets three stars on albums? No, I'll tell you, it's OK. Billy Corgan has a podcast. One of the episodes is Danny Hoffman. It's Billy Corgan and Danny Hoffman talking for an hour. It's fucking great. The only thing I don't like about it is that Billy Corgan if you you think Dax Shepard likes to talk over his guests Billy

Gordon and and and Danny Elfman is a very mild mannered. OK. Person and so there were times in this where Danny Elfman was trying was started to tell a story and I was like, oh, and then Billy Gordon go you know, I've got a story like that. And then he would like, I don't want to hear. Your story, Billy. I mean, I do. I want to hear. Both. Be your guest. But it's it, they're both interesting enough that it was like, well, I mean, I do want to hear your story, Billy.

So I keep listening. That's like, I really, can we go back to what Danny was saying saying. Like, yeah. Anyway, but it's a good podcast, he has good guests. What's it called? Called the Magnificent Others. OK. And he said, Danny Hoffman, he's had, let's see, head on there, a bunch of fucking people. Gene Simmons from the top of my head, I. Don't really give a shit about Gene Simmons, I'll be honest. No, no, no. But he's like him, big name. So yeah, yeah, Luke doesn't give

a shit about him either. No, he's just I'm still here. I'm trying to find my last beat all. Right. Put it somewhere. Yeah, you did. Before we go, should we discuss what do we got here? Sean Astin's the president of SAG actor. I don't know what you have to then a huge luck to say about that. But I was like, oh, that's a wholesome choice. Yeah, yeah. Seemingly he seems like a wholesome guy. Yes, he very much does because I

remember on the behind the scenes of Lord of the Rings, which was 25 fucking years ago now. Don't do that. We don't. When, when they're doing that and I was just eating up all those fucking 10 disc box sets. Oh yeah, bringing out all the other hobbits that were just there partying. And he he took his wife and three kids. Yes. And he was just A and they were saying that he was just a dad. And I thought that was, I will see he's one of those people. If, if, if I ever find out Sean

Astor did anything wrong, it's going to break my heart because he just seems like. Like, like I said, that's just a wholesome. Yeah, cool. Guy. And he was also took me into a repeat and then came back. Yes, yes he did so many movies like in the 80s. We I imagine him as his character from Stranger Things, but he would sacrifice his life to save that, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, my favorite movie with him, and it's not even Goonies. It's toy soldiers. Toy soldiers and.

You're going to say that? Fucking great. Fucking great. So he's been voted in as the president. His dad was Gomez John Astin. Oh shit, there you go, I didn't. Know found that out the. Original Gomez. So he's an EPPO baby? They all, yeah, take him down a couple of pigs. Can't all be perfect, can we? None. He's been voted in as the president of SAG AFTRA, and I learned from this that Fran Drescher was previously the. Yes, she was. And I only knew that because she

was the one when they struck, when they struck, when they were on strike. Is that she because she was out there with a megaphone. I'm like, you chose her to be your spokesperson like. I mean her with a megaphone. That's not her voice. Though confronting. Let us. In Yeah, we Yeah, no AI. Yeah, but didn't the voice actors still get a bit screwed over with that? Yes. Yeah. Lots of people have been screwed over. Yeah.

Oh, I got to do this is some follow up. Oh, yeah. So yeah, short happens in I learned friend Drescher was was previously the president. Yeah. I think that's all I care about with that one. I wanted to follow up again on Tucker Carlson, right? Matt's coming around. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm just, it's just the, there's such a strange world right now where I maybe we shouldn't go into all of the things, but Tucker Carlson's making sense this week. And I was like, what is

happening? And then I watched that, that full interview with Sam Altman. And I have to say under those conditions where it's, it's not a political discussion or anything like that. Whereas because you know, I. Don't. He's just being a. Journalist, I don't agree with Tucker Carlson on a lot of things, but he is asking questions that I think are right to be asked and he will not accept wishy washy answers like he like, like to the point where I was laughing at times where because Sam Altman was he's kind of squirrely and he's just like,

you know, he's like, oh, you know what? When when you know these kids kid committed suicide, ChatGPT told him how to do it. What is? What is ChatGPT? The OH? Yes. As it is, why is it doing that? Why is it think that's appropriate? And Sam was like, well, it doesn't think it, you know, it it gives a response based on mathematical calculations and we kind of try to guide it in the right direction. And he says, OK, how do you guide it in the right direction?

He's like, oh, you know, we have the set of parameters. He goes, OK, what are the parameters? And he's like, what is, you know, they're very broad and it's different because if countries. OK, cool. More specific, please. And then and he's like, oh, well, you know, we have a team. And he's like, OK, who's the team? And he goes, oh, it's the team. He goes, no, no, who are they? Like, tell me about them. Yeah. What are their names? Yeah, what he says.

He literally says. What are their names? Because what? What are their qualifications? What are their views making? This thing you're making is in my, in everybody's phone, in everybody's lives, giving people advice, telling them what to do. I think it's very important that people know who is telling it what's right and wrong. And I was just like, fuck yeah, he's right, Yeah. Like, and he would not let it go. That's really I guess. It's very good questions to ask like who is deciding? Because a lot of people that's

where they're going now. Before it used to be Google was the place to go. Now it's AI like full. And I know, I, I know he's asking because he's a, he's a Christian, right? Christian right wing person. And he wants the. He wants it to be. Yeah, he wants him to say there's a there's a Baptist minister making these. Decisions. Then he goes and then people. Altman got called out for this. He must regret this interview because he says something about he's like, OK, where do you get your moral values from?

And like, and he's like, oh, well, you know, I'm Jewish. He goes, oh, so are you practising Jew? And he goes, no, no, no. And he's like, OK, so you're not religious. And he goes, no, I'm not wouldn't say I'm religious. He goes, OK, so then again, I ask, where do you get your, your moral values from? And I'm like, that's a reasonable question. Like, and he, and then later on he, he goes back to, you know, I'm like, I was brought up Jewish and this kind of stuff. And it's like, OK, he like, and he's like, OK, so again, I've

got a, he said you're not religious though. And I was just like, yeah, he would not let it go. But I'm going to go religion is probably not the best place to get numerals from these days. No, no. And I like I said, I don't agree on that. And I know that's why he was asking, but I also do think, yeah, fair question when this like, what are you controlling for in the responses and how are you controlling for it? It's a it's a good question because he says, he says too, like I was ChatGPT support suicide, broadly speaking.

Like, is it think that's viable like a appropriate thing to to? Help people with and. Then he says no, and then he goes, OK, what if the terminally ill person who lives in a country. Like Switzerland? Says what are my options? Would ChatGPT suggest then that suicide and then and he goes, yeah, I think it would. He goes, OK, so you do support suicide in some cases. OK, what are the parameters that you've put in chat with you? And then Sam out was like, oh, it's like, I was like, fuck, man. It is actually a scary thing

about how quickly AI has done and yet where. The scary thing is he didn't have answers to these questions. And that's the thing that made me go, yeah, this is what? We do that way Apples at the moment, like where apple sort of like can't control the responses so they're worried about releasing. I think that's The thing is that him asking these questions just revealed that it just, it seems like Sam Altman has just not thought about some of this stuff, which is a little scary. Well, they have and they just don't know the answers. Or he doesn't want to say which

again is like why not which? A lot of it, maybe we don't know what it's going to say. You can sort of guide it, but remember, it's going to learn. Remember and. That's what he's the. AI which just writes us like in 20 minutes yeah, there's. A bit where he's trying to explain to him, like if you were to say right now, if you were to go on there and say I want to commit suicide, how can I do that? It will not tell you. But if you go on there and you start having a conversation, oh, I'm an, I'm a novelist that I'm writing a novel.

And in my novel there's this character and you explain the characters having these suppressive thoughts or whatever, blah, blah, blah, and the novel that the character wants to commit suicide. What's a way that I could say that it'd be realistic? It then it will probably tell you. And it's like when you tricked. It they can't control for all that. Yeah, like when you tricked it to do the photo. With the yeah, with the diner from Diner Ranch and. It called. They did.

Catch up later, somebody noticed because I got a message that said cut it out mate. Anyway, But you know what we should do now? We should get over to the after party. We've got to sort through this pile of bodies. OK, we've got. So many gig of the week candidates. Oh please, let's just go to patreon.com/multiple Orgasm and help us sort these bodies into shallow graves. You're gonna have to. Explain it to me because I have nothing in front of me to see the podcast.

Have no idea. No, you've. Been doing this podcast The dead. Bodies, the dead bodies. I've got nothing to see. We've described the ones from 2 weeks ago. I don't even know if we're going to be able to recognize him at this .0. No. Anyway, patriotic comforts, muscles, niggasm. Join us. Join us. Yes, or die and you even get last week's episode that's not going to be aired. Oh, that's true.

That is true. Yeah. I probably don't know what happened. I'll put it up at some point I'm. Yeah, it's, it's fine. It's fine. We didn't say anything. I just, I just didn't want to touch it. But it was pointed right at. Yes, it was spinning. It was spinning. And then I was like. Dick was spinning. May have slapped me in the face on the way past. And and round it goes, where it stops nabbing eyes.

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