The Sweet Tang: Captain America Returns & James Cameron vs Matt Damon

Welcome to multiple Nerdgasm with your hosts Matt, Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to. All. Things nerdy. Yeah, that's good, pretty good. I am very very hungover and tired. Yeah. I put Christmas drinks and my God, it's I'm too old for that. Matt, you've been in Iceland Wednesday. I understand. I. Had to restrain myself because, you know, I had to go pick my daughter up after the what, Christmas party so I couldn't go

to nuts. So. But how's Iceland? Great. Amazing. Yeah, Yeah, I recommend it. I mean, yeah. It's cold. Sick as fuck. It was cold. There was more snow here when I got back than there had been in Iceland, but apparently it's not that unusual. OK, snow like you would think, but it was fucking cold. Yes. And very, very expensive. Yeah. Really.

Once you're there, like, I was surprised. I guess I shouldn't have been, but I went to get a mulled wine. While we were. Hanging out at the Christmas markets and they were like he was like that'll be 17,000 krona I think and I was like hi, don't get the conversion on that. So I looked at my phone, I'm like $15 like for a little paper cup and I was like, that seems hell. Wow. And then I googled I. Mean that's a Sydney price right there. Oh, is it? 15 USD.

That's 30 Australian dollars. Almost. So I googled, you know, Reykjavik expensive, and everyone's like, oh, it's fucking expensive because it's a island with like one of the things, not many people and resources and, and stuff like, oh, OK, yeah. So I'm gonna be paying out the arse. Yeah. But still worth it and so easy to get to from here that it's bizarre to me that. Yeah, right. Yeah, You forget because you look at a map and you're like, Nah.

But then you look at a globe and you're like, oh, you're practically touching. It was just a stop on the way to England. Then they are and they said do you want to stay for a bit longer? And I was like, fuck yeah, I'll guess you Iceland so. Yeah, right. It's like a 5 hour flight from here. Oh, incredible. That all. For, for us, our flight from here, we're still in Australia. Yeah, yeah, it's. True. I mean, you could do that the

other way. You used to be sure, America. For us, the starting point is a long way to get there. Once you're there though. But that's why, you know, they've, they've, I think it's pretty much the consensus now that the Vikings got to America before the the Italians did, you know? And it's like, yeah, because they just, they just sailed West to see what was out there. If we keep going, there'll be something. And there was and there was. I got a slight correction for something that I heard Luke say last week.

Sorry, no. No, it's all right. It's all right. You've, you've the, the, the Discord server. I haven't set that up yet, so I'll try to do that this week. Now that now that it's been promised to people. Yeah, that's all right. Yeah. It's coming. Yeah, Yeah. No, it's good because. Luke promises things on air and then you have to just stumble around trying to fix it. I said I was going to do it and I forgot is the truth. And then and then Luke.

And now it's. Calls me out and now. Now I have to do it, but he does. Yeah. There's yourself calling here on some of your other projects. Wow, the roast of Matt Ham. OK. Yeah, we'll be here all day. We do have some some other follow up Matt, last week's episode you you missed, but Bonnie Blue had been up to no good in Indonesia. Saw slash word. I didn't see anything. I didn't see anything. I wasn't there. I wasn't there.

I. Was in Iceland. I suppose I wasn't. That's part of the thing. No one saw anything. The authorities got there early. No proof that they were gonna make a porno, Yeah. Interesting. Oh no, there's. A truth to terror a bunch. Of men. And a camera and. A camera do. You know what she got in trouble for? Because remember seeing her on the back of the Ute the bang bar scene? That's what she got in trouble

for, for not using a vehicle for its intended use because she was standing on the back of it with people. Yeah. And you know what? The fine for that was $20. Or one year in jail. Jesus Christ. You get to choose. Yeah, I'll say this. And again, like people can do what they want. I don't want to slut shame. Whatever you're into, whatever you want to do, that's power to her, whatever, whatever. But when I saw her sitting in the back of that truck that they had hand painted bang bus on,

driving around the streets of Bali, I was like who is the audience for this and why don't you have more sophisticated taste? Yeah. Well, basically it's for barely legal males. That's the role he is. I know that. I know that's how she says it, but it's just some. It's even dirtier when you say it. I don't see the attraction to her either. It's. No, but I mean no whatever. Whatever. No, I don't.

I don't see it either. But yeah, $20 or a year in jail, she paid her $20 and now she's banned from Bali. I I was gonna say, it says here that she's banned from Bali, which, OK, I mean, fairly serious consequences, I suppose you wanna go there, but. I think it's because they knew what the plan was, there was just no evidence for it of course. Oh yeah, yeah, it wasn't like that. Oh sorry, our mistake. It's not coy about this stuff. That would like give us the footage and she's like we haven't started we're.

Gonna come in the country and. Fuck all the boys, hmm? You hadn't got heat like 20 minutes later. I probably would have done 3 or 4. Yeah, at a time. Well, all right. Happy ending. Wink, wink. No, not at the time, I'll correct you there. It's because during the last thousand man gangbang they she only worked out to do them one at a time about halfway through. Up until then, it was just everyone crowded around and trying to just put it in her. About halfway through, somebody

was like, we need a production manager here to actually. She's not good at logistics, Dad. Tell me Body Blue didn't think these things through. Come on mate. Look I think she need like 1054 in 12 hours or something ridiculous. You know what I want to know, you know, there's heaps of guys that were like, oh, it wasn't worth it. I just fucking. I've got only a couple of thrusts in and I didn't even get to finish. How many of them do you reckon finished each other off, back

outside? You know what I mean? We're so revved up. Yeah, you'll. There's only one thing to do know. What happens in prison? That's why body blew. I never been to crying in her. In her interview, she was crying because she couldn't get them all to come because it was just a timing thing. It was just. Sure, Yeah, sure she was. Yeah, yeah. She was just so overwhelmed with sadness. Yeah, there's a tears of disappointment on my own part.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not internal hemorrhaging. Oh man. Still, you definitely want to be one of the first ones. No, I don't don't want to be. Anyone of the 1st. Ones, yeah, but here's the thing. You'd have to go back in time a long way to to be it's it's a it's a long continuous list, you know? Mm. Hmm. I mean, Luke wants to get in there before she figures out that she's got to stop you at a certain point, yeah. But also don't forget Luke.

The first ones were like fucking 8 to 12 guys all going around at OH. That's right, you know. Fight. Yeah, Luke's basically said I don't want to wait until it's one-on-one. I want to go in there when it's like every man for himself, I think. Any one of us is alpha enough to to to, you know, enjoy that experience. Yeah, man, you would have to be so fucking detached. Yeah. From humanity. There's only at least 1000 of them that were that detached

that they could do it. Yeah, at least not for me. What else has been happening this week? I watched some James Bond movies on the plane. You did, yeah. Yeah, I'm still continuing my my watch of of them all. I've watched. I watched both. Timothy Dalton. On films, it is sad that there's only two Timothy Dalton ones. Yeah, I felt I was like, why did he only do 2? And I looked it up, apparently there was a third in progress. But because of legal rights with the films, because there's this

whole, you know, this whole thing about, you know, like never Say never again, there's like, which is technically not an official Bond film because it was Aeon Productions got the rights to Thunderball, but only Thunderball. And so there's like this whole thing where James Bond was kind of split between 2:00. Yeah. And then anything that was in Thunderball is also off the table. They're like Blofeld, for example. Yeah. So it's very. And I think Casino Royale's

rights have been sold separately too, which is why that was never a canonical Bond until Daniel Craig. But there is ATV Special based on it and there is that spoof movie because those rights were up for grabs elsewhere. Righto. OK, I like the spoof movie The best. Do you? Yeah, So there's. OK Well, so there was going to be a third one, but it because of all the legal stuff, it got tied up and Timothy Dolan apparently got the shits and said, Nah, I can't be bothered waiting.

I need to go. Yeah, I want to go get paid somewhere. I want to get some acting, so yeah, he. Royal Shakespeare Company. So that's a shame and he's very good. Was the third movie going to be Goldeneye and they just recast it or was it going to? Be something that would make sense, but I don't know yeah because his movies I'd. Like to have seen his Goldeneye? The two that he's that I can't remember the name of the first one just. Licensed to kill. Oh.

No living daylights. It is Living Daylights. For some reason I kept thinking that's Roger Moore, but no, no, they're very good. And they're much more serious than the Roger Moore ones. They're not completely serious. They still have funny bits. Yeah, like this a bit. Even Living Daylights where the he's got the Aston Martin with all these gadgets, but he's also convinced this woman who's like a Russian defector that he's is that the is that? The one I'm thinking of, yes. Does she play the cello? He doesn't want her to know he's a British agent.

So he's just like, oh, that's weird. What's the what's the car shooting at people? That's very that's a little bit silly. And like, he uses a laser to chop the top off a police car and he goes what he gets. Rust damage is terrible around here. And like, so it's got some silly bits, but overall it's much darker. In turn though, yeah. Especially license to kill. License to Kill. Is this quite Somebody gets put into a pressurized? Yeah, it's got Felix lighting.

It's eaten by a shark. That's right. Yeah, that guy, what's his name, gets put in the pressure thing and like, blows up and blood. Sprays. I remember seeing that when I was quite young and and thinking that was quite. Felicio Del Toro gets thrown into the the mashing machine for the cocaine and it's blood sprays everywhere. Ruining all that coke. Yeah, well they they burnt the place down after that, so yeah. But they are very good. Snort Benicio del Toro. But I also, you just reminded me when you mentioned Casino Royale

that I've been reading the books and they are very good but problematic in certain ways, for example. Gets their existed dishes with all the problematic words still in. There, I, I, that's, we talked about that, right? Yeah. I intentionally tried to find. So Casino Royale doesn't have as much of this. It does have one quote that I wanted to read to you though, because I was reading it and I was like Jesus Christ. Yeah, you gotta wait till he goes to the Caribbean, then it's all.

So he he hooks up with Vespa, right? But as you will recall from the film, the place quite similar. She's technically a double agent. Sorry, spoilers, but but oh, you know. From a book from 1950. Yeah, exactly. So while she is having sex with him, she presumably doesn't actually want to 100% or she's feeling unsure about it. And so there's this line where he says that that he's talking about how like, you know, oh, it's fucking great. But like, yeah, sure, if she was caught into it.

And then there's this line. But that conquest of her body, because of the central privacy in her, would each time have the sweet Tang of rape. Oh. My God, that's like what the. Fuck. Like in other words, it it was, it was, it would have been good anyway, but it was even better because he just thought, yeah, he doesn't want this. What is the sweet Tang of rape and why are you just putting that in there? Ian Fleming? Why are you referring to it that way? Yeah, how is this?

Sweet Tang, I would. Never think to call it that. No, no, a rapist might. Yeah, right. Yeah. But in fact, we would even, we would recontextualize that whole thing by being like, at the time I was having fun, but then I suspected that she wasn't, so it ruined the whole thing for. Me, yeah. Because I kept thinking, oh, I don't, oh, we don't want to do that kind of thing. Yeah. Whereas he's like, oh, this is. Interesting, this is better. I might I might be able to go again actually.

Sorry, a little coughing fit there A. Thousand of my mates in. So that that ain't Casino Royale. And then also in I'm now into Live and Let Die, which is actually the second book, which is, as you'll recall, the one about the kind of voodoo stuff with Tanaka in the in the in the movie, but in this. It's not. Is that the second book? Yes. In public order. Wow, I. Mean it's of it's time. It's just got a lot of the N word, yeah, but it's not used.

It's used casually in a way where I think obviously he's not trying to be racist or anything, he's just using the palace at the time, but it's just very confronting now it's got and sorry the the 2 N words because there's. Yes, the NE and the NI. Correct. Yeah, both of them. Like as in that is just how they describe people. One of those I feel is almost still fine in its historical context. Right, except for the other ones, because I remember when we talked about, I think we talked about this with the, with the,

the rework of the books they removed, they said one of the things they addressed was that he, he mentions unnecessarily at times the race of people, but he does. And so I and reading it, I was just like, yeah, I don't, I didn't need to, didn't need to say it. That way didn't add anything to what was. I've been reading a lot of Graham Greene, who is a contemporary of Fleming and also writes spy fiction and espionage fiction. He does the same thing too. It's like you didn't have to put the N word in front of that

sentence. Correct, he could have just the the man. And I would have gotten by all the context clues that that he was black. Like you've made that abundantly clear without having to pop that little signifier in there. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, but other than that, they are actually very good. Like I can see why they were popular. They're kind of kind of interesting and thrilling. And the and the Felix light of getting eaten by shark is in that book in. Yeah, to live and let die, which

is also interesting to see. Oh, Felix is more than that. They take a train. Yeah. Well, he if he if he doesn't die, he's missing limb. He's got bites at him, so yeah, right. Yeah. And then there's they catch a train down from from New York to Florida. So there's bits in that as if there's still these bits that I'm like, oh, OK, that's in this film. And they've taken that and they've put it in here. And then, yeah, it's just interesting.

Oh that is interesting. I've only read a couple of the books. I have read Casino Royale and I for some reason I randomly read The Man with the Golden Gun. I read that From Russia With Love, but I think they're the only three I've read. I would like to go through them. I watched an interesting movie this week. Sweet Tang. That's not the that's not the name of this podcast. OK, it's not. Not even just Sweet Tang, it's just none of it's going in there. Yeah, Tang is I just it's just a

drink here. I. Did see AI did see a meme? Yeah I remember Tang from the 80s. I saw a meme the other day. What? Not a meme but just something on the Internet. It's all memes now. It's just, they all look like memes. Somebody said. I, I, I read the, the book Jaws that the movie Jaws is based on and they're like the lead guy says faggot in the 1st chapter and she's like, but this is the lead guy. Like what's the shark gonna say?

But I watched a movie called The Carpenter's Son. Oh, I have that ready to watch, but I have not watched it. Look, I loved it, but it's not what you think. And I don't know who this movie's for, right? Because, yes, this can only be described as a horror movie about Jesus as a child. Right, Right. Starring Nicolas Cage. Yeah. OK. All the elements are there and it is that, but it is not some like tongue in cheek. She's hot. It is deadly serious and like

biblically accurate to the infant Gospel of Thomas, which is based on one, she was one of the synoptic gospels like the non canonical gospels, right, right. And it's basically just what would happen if you were a small family back in like fucking 015AD and your little boy was doing magic. Like you'd be like, is this OK or is this really fucked? Like so Nicolas Cage plays Joseph and he's like, don't be doing any of that fucking magic shit. Right? And then and then Mary seems OK with it and he's like, tell me

again who his fucking dad is. Tell me in. My fucking face. And she's like, God, he's like, yeah, you're still going with that. OK, fine. Like it's. But it's fucking great. Like I reckon it's. Sort of a horror movie. I thought it'd be sort of like where he comes back to life and I. Was expecting that presents the resurrection. Yeah, but it is not it is like you would have to understand enough about the Bible to appreciate the detail that

they've put into this movie. Yeah, right. But at the same time. Be open enough to a radical interpretation, yeah, you know, to not be completely offended by it. I'm. Certainly. Open that guy does he up on stage he kills at least one person in this Yeah, there's this awesome bit where someone someone dares him because they're they're kids, right? It's kids. Someone dares him to touch this leper, you know, touch it. Fucking touch it. And he's getting real close.

And and then he does touch it and he gets fucking healed, right? And that's how he realizes he can heal people. But everyone thinks, you know, like, that's not natural, right? But then he works out. He can do it in reverse, and he fucking magics the life out of some guy. Yeah, right. Like, oh God, yeah, he's got to load his power somehow. That's right, Luke. God, yeah. Yeah, your Lord and mine. But it's very good. Nicolas Cage is very good. It's very good.

FKA Twigs, whoever the fuck that is, is very good. FKA twigs? I've heard of that. She's in the Crow remake and this and I think she's a. Musician. Oh yeah, I know her. Very. Odd name, odd lady by the look of it. On a good way. I'll. Have to check that out. Speaking of Nicholas Cage, just, well, we're in in Manchester at the hotel Lira went to bed, obviously because child and on the TV was The Unbearable Weight.

Oh. I still haven't seen that or. Talent, whatever it is that the guy's so fucking good, I've got to. Watch it. The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, something like that. Yeah, I do have to watch that, Yeah. Pedro Pascal is so good in it. Is he? He's so funny, you've got to watch it. Always quite good. I don't think I've ever watched a Pedro Pascal movie and went me. He's like the the head of this like arms cartel and like but

he's like this really mild mannered guy who just wants to make a movie like you got. Oh, he's so. Funny. Cool. Yeah, I was. Read this script that he wants to watch this cage to be in his movie. Did you end up seeing the second Wonder Woman movie, Matt? I know Luke and I saw it, but. No, I did hear that he basically spends half the movie looking like he's just shocked at how bad Gal Gadot is. Like in the movie he's like. Have you seen there's a I've I've seen it on Instagram, but I

think she's a tik toker. But she does. She looks a bit like Gal Gadot, and she's like, what if Gal Gadot was in this video? Harry Potter. Yeah, you're Harry Potter. I mean, it's it's mean, but it's. Oh yeah, but it was dead accurate. It's fucking bang on. Yeah. God, that went down the wrong way. That lime cordial. This is why I drink beer. Never had that problem with beer. I do receive to recall about a

year ago that Luke was like, you know what guys? I'm drinking fucking 10 gin and tonics every night. I'm getting out of shape. I'm going to, I'm going to get healthy. I'm going to start drinking sugar free tonic. Have you, Luke, have you switched to sugar free tonic? I have. OK, good boy. I I drank Hoxton quite a bit when I was in the Cotswolds. Hoxton. Yeah. Jeremy Clarkson's beer. Oh. Yes, because you went there,

didn't you? I did. It's OK. Make some good beer at Hoxton. Go to the brewery. Is it an? Aisle or a lager or a start? What? Is it they make all of this, They make all the companies. They've got Ipas, they've got lagers. The the premium lager I think is their kind of main 1 and it is delicious. Yeah, I drink that a few times. Yeah. And then with the farmer's dog, with those who've seen Clarkson's Farm, we'll know what

that is. It's his kind of pub restaurant. Yeah. It's busy, nice man, it's all his. All the stuff he's got there is very nice and very well done. I. Mean he's got the money, but. Yeah. He's he's also trying to inject money into the town and stuff as well from. Yeah, so we made the restaurant. Show. We had dinner at the restaurant. Sometimes. Everything there, it says the signs up that says everything you're eating was grown in the

area. Or at the very least if we couldn't get it in this area, it's from Britain. There isn't nothing on this menu. There's not from Britain and like outside. So they've got the tent from the Grand Tour is now a shop there. You can go in and they've got like there's like a they sell the beer and they sell all sorts of stuff like Diddly Squat farm merch. I got AI got gin, Diddly Squat Gin. I got we got a bunch of stuff, but there's a like a burger truck out the side of the Grand

Tour tent during the day. So you can get like get like a burger. And there's a big sign that says, can I have ketchup? No, you can't have fucking ketchup. And then underneath it explains they don't make ketchup in Britain. You can't have it, right? It's like, yeah, we own, yeah, only British stuff. It's quite cool. What sauce do they put on a burger? I didn't get a burger because they didn't have a veggie one. It's a good question. Yeah, I guess that was going to

be my next question. HP sauce probably. Oh, HP Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't mind. They're big on vinegar and chips over there, aren't they? Yes, I love vinegar and chips. That's the best. Yeah, I actually used vinegar this week for some cleaning because, you know, I'm just fucking fully domesticated now, but just the smell of it made me want chips. Delicious. No, you. Can't really get them anymore. It's not really chips on offer. No vinegar and chips. Oh, even chips like the the

chips like we used to have as a kid. No, yeah. That don't exist and I don't mean England. There was somewhere here I got chips the other day that. That were good. Oh, it was a pub in we went to lunch at work and there was to like, it's like an Irish pub. And they gave, I got fish and chips and it was actual proper chips, like I would know them, not fries like they usually do. Yeah, right. I put some malt vinegar on the table and I was like, oh fuck yeah. Hello.

Yeah, it was an American. No, it was an Irish pub. Yeah, had a good time. Lyra has told us that she never wants to go to another restaurant. We obviously we're on vacation. Sit there. Quietly. Yeah, so we had to, I mean, that's how you eat when you're on vacation because you can't cook anything, right? And literally the third day we're in Wrexham and we walk in. It's it's in the evening, we walk into a brewery and she walks in and she looks around and she goes, why are we in another restaurant?

Like. Some people start looking over and we're like, what? She she goes, I'm not going to any more restaurants. I will not. And then it's like, all right, honey, just come and stay. 4 year olds ever get to Antrim? And then in the hotel in Manchester, we said, OK, good brush. We've been walking around all day looking at the Christmas markets in Manchester, and she was a trooper. But then she goes, we say, go brush your teeth. So she goes in the bathroom and then we can hear and they're

going, Illyria, come over here. Let's go look at this. Illyria, let's go over there. Look at this over and over again. Why is everybody making me walk all over the place? I'm sick of it. I just want to relax while I want vacation. Amazing, amazing. And so she was just having that conversation with herself. Fucking 4 year old having a rant in the bathroom. It's very fun, there's some interesting teenagers. It's like the last episode of The Jinx. Yes, exactly.

Yeah, left the mic on. Yeah. So so we met to find some more kid friendly stuff for her to do. Obviously. Yeah. Fair, Yeah. Because it's hard. You want to try and pack as much as you can in, but I don't want to. Be bored. It's just very difficult because, like, you know, you're on vacation. And then again, I don't know, kids can be bored by things that shouldn't be boring to them too. Like it's just true.

Yeah, we will go to the library today. And just before we left, HUB was like, I'm just going to get my iPad. And we're like, why? Just like, it's like I watch my iPad in the library. I'm like. Yeah, why are we going to a lot of books? Watch your. IPad when we get back here. We took, yeah, Lyra's frabinet, as she calls it. She knows that tablets are tablets, but hers? It's still called Frabinet because that's what she called it because it was.

Always called. Yeah, and it's just like at some point. She's going to stop you for now. Yeah, it's. Like, yeah, OK, that's Frabinet and all the others are tablets. It's like. Funny. There's been some Avengers doomsday news. This week. The trailer leaked apparently. I haven't seen, did you either you guys see it? No, 'cause the trailer's still not out yet. Anytime it sort of gets put up, it's taken down. Yes, I've never been able to

catch it. Yeah, yeah, there's a bunch of AI ones, but don't be fools. It is out like out out now because it's with in front of the new Avatar movie. MMM, you've got some James Cameron used to. But so, so people have seen it and we've confirmed the main thing, which is, I mean, people are complaining about spoilers because of this, but it's not fucking spoiler. It's in all the trailers and everybody just knows Chris Evans is back, Captain America's back. They have fucking undone all that shit because nobody's watching these movies anymore.

Yeah, just put the cut, put the cast we like back in. Roman Danny Junior's back. He's a different character. But is he back? Let's see how they play it out. Yes. So yeah, sad, honestly, in a way, it's like I'm. Not going to try to see Avatar and tomorrow and. Have you seen the second avatar? I've seen the second one. OK. I haven't seen the second one. I haven't. Wouldn't it's way the first avatar was so bad? I liked it when I first saw it. I haven't really watched it

again since I'm. I think he liked how good it looked. I don't think he liked the. Movie. Yeah, because that's what I remember taking from it. I still remember the. Best description of it was from friend of the podcast Brian Moses, who said he felt like he was getting a massage and the massage was OK, but he could feel the masseuse's erection pressing against him. And it just it. Just ruined it. Yeah, well, we've got some Avatar related news actually, if you want to talk about this.

This made me laugh because. James Cameron. Yeah, so Matt Damon apparently said a few years ago, he claimed in an interview that he had been cast in Avatar as Jake Sully is the lead role, but he turned it down because he was doing a Bourne movie and even though they had offered him 10% of Avatars prophet. Oh wow. He had had to turn it down and and so he always felt like you'd missed out because of that. And then the premise of this article is that James Cameron is is shooting down that. But let me read you what James Cameron said.

And you tell me if this sounds like he's saying this didn't happen or if he's saying in a weird way that it did happen. So he says he was never offered the part. I can't remember if I sent him the script or not. I don't think I did. And then we wound up on a call and he said I'd love to explore doing a movie with you. I have a lot of respect for you as a filmmaker. Avatar sounds intriguing, but I really have to do this Jason Bourne movie. I've agreed to it. It's a direct conflict, so regretfully I have to turn it

down. But he was never offered. There was never there was. We never talked about the character. We never got to that level. It was simply an availability issue. Like what? It doesn't sound like it, James, it sounds like and then and then the next. He says later on he felt compelled to call me personally and tell me he didn't want it to come from his agent. That's an honourable guy. Why would he? Why was it his agent have called you about a thing?

That called you? Yeah, out of the fucking blue. Yeah, so I mean, but that this matters, but it doesn't sound like he wasn't offered that James the way you're. Telling it sounds like yeah. It sounds like he's. Open admitting that you. Are asking him to be in the movie and he called you to say he couldn't do it and you. It feels like he's just an an old rambling man. And he even said, look, I've I love your films. I've always wanted to work with you. I respect you as a director, but I just can't.

It's just the timing. He throws that in there too, He told me. He told me how good I was. He told me was very handsome. And yeah, that's right, he told me if the biggest penis you've I've ever seen. But yeah, it's a very strange. More like he was offered than it wasn't. That's. What I'm saying, even the way he's telling it sounds like obviously more to it than that. We never talked 100. He just called me to tell me he couldn't do it. OK, why? And I respect him for calling me

and telling me in person. Yeah, because otherwise his agent would have had to do it. Why would his agent have had to do that? If he was an office, I had even sent him the script giving him nothing. But yeah, I. Don't remember even sending him the script but anyway he said to me I love the script. Am I? Supposed to call James Cameron every time he makes a movie and say sorry mate I can't do it. Sorry, I wasn't in that movie. I respect you as a film maker, but I just don't have the time. I've got work.

I've got work. In the morning. Yeah, that's very funny. Yeah. And there's another one that I thought he does get up for good, Zynga, I think in this one, which is he was talking about how science fiction films aren't really recognized in the Academy Awards and such because, for example, Denny Villeneuve didn't get best director for Dune, even though largely, but I think people agree those were. There's some of the better films of Yeah. And, And so James Cameron says, you know, Denis Ville, you've made those two magnificent Dune

films. But apparently these films made themselves because he wasn't considered a director, not even by the Directors Guild. It's like, OK, you can play the awards games or you can play the game that I like to play, which is make movies that people actually go to. Yeah. That was a pretty good zinger I'll give him. Enough and not many people. People could say it, but James Cameron can say it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so far. Because honestly, up until Avatar, I've watched anything he

fucking made. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think these Avatar sequels are will test the James Cameron's ability to, I don't think go. To theatre, even the last one did that well. I think I had like a good opening weekend, but I don't think. Enough people who? Don't know. Sure anyone out? I'd forgotten. Like he did have. Was it from Titanic on? Maybe it was before Titanic, but from Titanic? Top grossing film of all time.

Yeah, he just toppled them repeatedly. And so he has does have a track record where he can, yeah, he can say this stuff, but. Yeah. Yeah, and then I've I also see he's claimed something else this week. Is that true? Yeah, James. Cameron he has. He has officially stated that he wrote the script for Point Break that his then wife uncredited him. Oh. And and and went and made the movie with her name, with only her name on it.

And he just kept quiet about it until now. And that's why ex-wife I. Don't know about that. He's got a couple of ex wives. Yeah, he does, yeah. Because he keeps the other Hamilton being. One of them. Yeah, I'll take any of his sloppy seconds, that's for sure. Speaking of Lyndon Hamilton, Stranger Things. Oh she's not? Yes she is. I've only watched the 1st 2 episodes so just watch what you say all. Right, but she's in that. She's in it now, OK.

I've seen her, yeah. I haven't started yet, I might start. That she has an identical twin. I did know that, yeah. I did not know that. Yeah, I found out. This week I just, I, I just saw a picture and it was like Linda Hamilton and her twin. And I was like, oh. Linda Hamilton and Linda Hamilton, Yes, I promised the listeners. When I updated the Patreon, I promised the patrons a new segment. OK. So we could, I don't know if it's going to be good, but did

you want to try out a new segment? Let's. Try it. Definitely try a new segment, yeah. All right. I'm going to call this segment review review. And I love it. What I'd like to do, just for funsies, is take a look at some negative reviews of films that we like and just see how we feel about that, right? So I thought to kick it off, I'd go with an obvious think obvious movie to start and that is Star Wars. A.

New Hope specifically. Great. Yep. Little bit of Star Wars news later, we'll tease that. All right, very good. I won't spend too long on it because I don't know. Yeah. Is this? A contemporary review. The Review. Yes, I want to know when the review came out. Yeah. Yeah, these are contemporary reviews. That's how I thought that would be interesting because obviously we have nostalgia in a way that

people don't when they watch it now. Yeah, when they've just gone to see it. First review What's the point of this movie? Spaceships don't even exist. Actually, they do. Feels very modern. That feels like a like a modern. But don't we have spaceships like, I don't understand, classified like the old shuttles of spaceships? Yeah, What is it? What am I watching? What is this? Wookie. Wookie isn't real. I've never.

Seen a wookie? Why have I not heard about this? What is this documentary? Next review I didn't watch this but I had a really bad day today. I almost fell down the stairs I was so scared. I just definitely laugh. Someone felt the need to post that on the Star? Wars, who's just lonely. You wanted to talk to someone and that's his safe face. Star Wars more like stupid fucking dumb shit movie for butt heads. A good one. My history teacher in middle school made me write a 5 page

essay on how this shit relates to the Roman Empire and I fucking hated it ever since. I didn't like do neither, and I'm only minorly amused by Georgia CGI monster editions in this 2011 revision. Oh wow. OK. If you watch Star Wars you get no pussy. Sorry, he's saying the only thing he liked were the extra bits added in in 2011. He was really mildly interested in those. Yeah, but that was the best part for it. Oh, this one. This one will trigger you

probably. Presumably this is something of a let down after Avenge of the Sith. Perhaps I should have watched these films in order of release. I mean, it's perfectly fine, but is this honestly better than the prequels? Really. Cool, cool. It's not our world anymore. But I could understand watching it that way you go, why did it like it was very difficult because. Everyone suddenly got mustaches. Yes. Yeah, where's all the lightsaber fights and people, Jedi throwing

things at each other? Yeah, Jedi speed that never gets used again all. Right, we'll get into some more serious ones because those are obviously just silly. You know what I found I had to do was you can't look at the one star reviews. They're just trash. You got to go like 3 star if you actually want a. Reasonable. Sort of actual. Somebody who's actually watched the whole. Movie. It might be somewhat interesting, yeah. A New Hope is easily my least

favorite in the franchise. I get that it was influential for its time, but watching it now, it just doesn't hold up. The visuals feel outdated, the pacing is too slow, and the story feels kind of empty. It's a simple hero's journey, but nothing really stands out compared to later movies. The acting is hit or miss. 4 is great. Hamill feels awkward at times. While I respect what it did for cinema, as a movie, it's just not that engaging. What do you guys think about that? It's hard for me to. Agree specifics.

It's hard to pick it apart, really isn't. It it is hard for me to agree, but is that because I saw it in a time when I mean. When that was the greatest thing that had ever been made. I don't understand how you wouldn't be engaged by it, but then I've I watched it a long time. I find it hard really saying it's slow. I think what they mean is just in terms of pacing out the story, it's there's like heaps on Tatooine and then they get off Tatooine and then there's heaps on their way to the death * and then they do the Death

Star and then it's then, then it's the assault at the end. Like it's nothing. Everything just happens very chronologically, this and then this and then this. There's no like the movie. Movie time versus real, real lifetime. But that's what made movies in the 70s. Because one I saw that didn't include either mentioned the the, the the big battle at the end and just how boring that was. Like they were in they liked the movie and then at the last 20 minutes they were just like, I know, right.

But it's just like I guess. Because the trench run let them down. What? Yeah. And I maybe that's because modern action is just so like more genetic stimulating. Yeah. Like whereas I mean at the time this was that, yes. Like, even the battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith, that is like a lot of stuff going on ship blowing up everywhere. Like there's some people like there, yeah. Yeah, it's the only part of Revenge of the Sith I liked.

Was that that one scene? Yeah. Battle of the The opening. I thought, oh, we're on the right track and. Then yeah. It started talking again. Yeah. But yes, so some, some, some critical, it's a critical views of a New Hope. That's great. That's very good. Another one I looked at was Blade Runner. Because. I know people don't like it but. There are people that don't like this and I'll say before we even begin, it is very slow.

I fucking. Love it. It is, but it's very slow it I like that about. It to be slow. Yeah, I like that about it. But I understand if you don't. That's fine. Yeah, all. Right. Reviews of Blade Runner? No offence but literally what the fuck is this about? When you have to start a review with the phrase no offence, no. Offence. I kept falling asleep and then waking up to flashing lights and synth music. I don't know what happened.

I like this one. Apparently everyone in the future is miserable with a great coat. Yeah, like that. We've got nothing bad to say about that review. That review gets 10 out of 10, Yeah. Slowest movie ever and people will continue to talk about it as a cult classic on the same level as Titans like Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones 0 action until the end. Harrison Ford is great and the world is interesting but nothing happens in this movie. It's a 2 hour piss break. Wow.

Yeah, well, so. Yeah, I can sort of understand why. It is a very, very slow movie. Yes, yeah. Takes its time, yeah. Yeah, I think also people forget like. To watch it on it's time, not on your time. Isn't it our whole thing about people wanting to get off Earth? Sure to the. Earth is. Yeah, is. Street like, that's what it is and that's why people want to leave. Yeah, except for the replicas that want to come to Earth to.

They're looking for a cure. Their lives, yeah. So this one I think is interesting and it's got, there's a clue in this one as to to something. So you'll you'll know after decades of hype. What in the heck was that? In light of this, I'm rethinking Scott's filmography. I'm thinking he never had it. I'm thinking there never was. Source. This is such a mess. The questions aren't even deep. It holds up visually more or less, but is absolutely bereft of substance, concept or nuance. What?

Horrendous, inconsistent exposition dumps from a voice over. Terrible editing, especially towards the end. Unreasonably jarring. No characters. Harrison spends the climax of the movie running around without meaning or clarity or saying anything, literally just grunting as he climbs around using his broken fingers. No subtlety, no nuance, and no room for scenes to breathe. Oh, not slow. Enough. So strange. Wow, I. Find that review very strange.

And the yes, the voice over. OK, they watched the theatrical version. Fair enough. It's different. Yeah. And look, if that's the version you saw and you didn't like it, OK, that's not your fault. Like, sure, even Ridley Scott didn't like it. You know what I mean? Like, But we were just lucky that we grew up with the VHS version, which was different. Yes, the. Yeah, the director's cat. Yeah, but just the no. Bereft of substance, concept or nuance, Plain watch.

It again mate yeah, maybe you just didn't get it I. Think, yeah, I don't know. I just don't. Yeah, I don't think you paid attention to what was happening at all. Well. It wasn't that. Might be why, which is fine I guess I just find it. Yeah, I mean, the guy who kept falling asleep, I can understand why he didn't get it. Yeah, exactly. I didn't see enough of it. But like, yeah, no room for the scenes to breathe. It's just densely packed with action.

It's. Way. Too. Way too things happened way too fast. Yeah, he was just looking at that fucking snake scale. Yeah. And I. The close up of the fucking origami Unicorn just didn't hold long enough. I've got one more for you. OK. Citizen Kane. Oh, here we go. Shitizen Kane one staff love it. No, it's a great review. Come on. Yeah, you get a point for the

for the word play here. We go boring, mysterious, underwhelming, dated, disappointing, well made, well shot and overrated. Happy 100. Mysterious. Day, Orson Wells. OK. Yeah, yeah, I know. Such a funny list of boring, mysterious. See, I've never seen Citizen Kane, and I don't think I would like it. Probably not. Yeah. Not you. I don't. Yeah, probably not you.

Boring and mysterious. It's the movie equivalent of reading a book. This one's funny, I think you're telling me you're looking me in the eye and telling me this is supposed to be one of the best movies ever made. Calling it a steaming pile of dog shit left in Arizona heat so it starts to melt and stains the ground covering it in slick dog shit that people keep slipping on. And you slipped on it. And you went to court for your partner of 12 years who just fucking died by a drunk driver. The jury found them guilty and not guilty and your childhood

dog just died. And you not only end up getting pink eye from slipping and falling in the hot dog shit, you break your ankle and cover your rented suit. And steaming dog shit would be a compliment I don't think you like. It so you put a lot of effort into that. Yeah, I quite like it. I'll say this though, it's not my favorite of Orson Welles movies, not by a long shot. It's no Transformers. It's a reasonable. One, it's no Transformers the movie, Yeah. Unicron.

I was hoping I'd feel different about Citizen Kane after not seeing it for a number of years, and although I can certainly still appreciate the technical aspects, the acting, and the craft, I'm just not overly interested in what's going on. The pacing is sluggish and the story isn't engaging enough for me personally. I think it's a reasonable. I mean, that's perfectly fine because it is. It is. It is a slow paced movie again and it's a man's entire life from his birthday. It is an achievement, but he's bored.

Yeah, yeah. And you didn't like it? Fine. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's that's review, review. I just thought that was fun. Yep, 10 out of 10 and the segment is reviewed 10 out of 10 as well. Very good. If you want me to do that again, listeners, yes, let me know. Please, no, I don't care if the listeners want it. I want it all right. I I also have a segment of slickers. What, because it's a Christmas

episode? We forgot to say. Oh. Fuck yeah it is 0. It is too Christmas episode. Merry Christmas listeners. Merry Christmas. Yeah. And you know, we used to do a lot of very, very crisp. We used to lean. Into the Christmas. We haven't you. Lads, you lads everywhere in Iceland, by the way. Oh, I bet there are. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Did you have to miss your Yule party because you were in

Iceland? Or are you going to cram tonight? I'm gonna have to try and have a nap today because it's OK. Yeah, it's tonight, Yeah. I'd have a nap today, but I thought I would read a celebrity Christmas message. This is This is a Christmas message. You're going to sing it like Gal Gadot. No, because it wasn't sung originally. So I want to I want to just do it justice. But this was this celebrity asked his lawyer to present this Christmas message to the world

while he. Joseph Fritzl, you familiar with the Basement Rapist? Can't say that I am. Yes, you are. He locked his daughter in a basement. Oh, and then all of that stuff. Because he'd. Like that sweet tank? Of rape. I remember this. Out of context, yeah. So anyway, he has a Christmas message for all of us. OK, it's going to be hot, hot warming, I think. Yes, yeah. He wishes everyone out there, everyone out there.

So everyone that's us and you, listeners, he wishes everyone out there a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year, 2026. And he hopes, I'm reading this verbatim. And he hopes that by Christmas next year, 2026, he might perhaps also be free. So it was important that he got that message out there. Yeah. I don't think he's. Ever going to be public appeal for like, clemency? What the fuck? I know, right? What's he trying to do? Oh, he said Merry Christmas. Maybe we could let him out.

We were wrong about him. Yeah, I mean, his daughter was locked up for 25 years. Like it has to be at least that long. I think we can all agree it has to be at least that long. Right. Yeah. Like you took away 25 years of her life, you lose 25 years of yours at the start at. The very fucking least. He's what, 90 I think it says here. Yeah, but I love this this if you're looking at this article from the US Sun. Now, I don't know US newspapers, but I, I think this might be a

slightly low class publication because just because of the wording, they don't feel they need to be unbiased. Listen to this. Estrad Wagner, Fritzl's defence lawyer, posted a video holding a small Christmas ornament, saying it was given to her by the incestuous beast during a recent prison visit. Oh, actually, anyway, are we maybe reading it wrong? And when he's saying maybe he'll be out by next Christmas, he means he'll be dead. Oh, maybe. Maybe kick off the weed? We got a lot of cards. Coming up in the Master.

Party, party. So I'm just going to, I'm just going to tease this right now, patreon.com/multiple Orgasm if you want to subscribe to the after party where we, I was about to say review celebrity deaths. I guess that is what we do like. This sort of what we do, yeah. Yeah, and Luke decides who, if any, deserve the coveted title of the week. Yeah, Originally it was just because Neil Armstrong died, so we made him right the week, I think. I think that's how it started. Yeah, it has evolved a lot since it first started.

Yes, actually, I I I seem to recall coining the phrase Geek of the Week without any deaths originally. Because remember that guy who applied for a job at DreamWorks by editing footage of Steven Spielberg answering questions about the Holocaust and then cut in his own questions about working at DreamWorks and and sent that in as his Dream Works auditions? As his resume? Yeah. As his. CCV and not only did he not get a job, but Spielberg personally said that managed to never ever work at any company.

I'm involved. He probably did get a job now, yeah, in the industry. Yeah, yeah. Just notoriety. Before we go to the after party, I want to ask. I know that you've obtained a game, Dan. I want to know, have you played the game yet? Oh, I have. I've been playing it for the last two days. Oh, you're probably further than me at this point. Oh, you've been you popped it on as well. I've got I've got the Silent Hill 2 remake.

Oh yeah, I was very keen for this. No, I'm enjoying it. And like Blade Runner and perhaps Star Wars A New Hope. It's it's a fucking slow burn, but in a way that I'm so grateful for because no games these days allow so little to happen over so long a time. Period. Sure. You know what I mean? And it's not even any. Like, the world is dense, but there's nothing really even to explore. Like, I'm used to having to, like, go over to every box I see and see if it's interactive.

Yeah. It's kind of pointless doing that. You find bits of paper or if you if you want around, but yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I haven't sort of added in anything that's flushed out. It's just the we've just made the graphics better and the controls better. Away you go. No, no, it. Controls are better. Yeah. And it is redone like I'm positive that it is. It's been so long since I played this that I actually, I can't remember what's from this game.

And I've played the first game again since then. And actually I'd forgotten how similar the two games are to one another. Yeah. Yeah, I, when I started playing it, I was like, well, this is just how I remember the game. Yeah. And then I looked up videos of Silent Hill 2 on the PS2 and I was just like, oh God. I meant to do that too because for the same reason I just remember it always looking this good. Yeah, that's yeah. In my mind, that's just what. Because Silent Hill One was like

original PlayStation game. It's about to say PlayStation One, but that's not. Correct. It's. I'm going to look that up now because I bet it looks worse than I'm thinking in my mind even. It probably doesn't like it. I'd like a comparison as well. As for most games. But that's why. Oh God. There's. Oh. Yeah, it looks atrocious. But games from the 80s and first half of the 90s are charming for their rudimentary yeah and feel.

But games from the late 90s and early 2000s have amazing stories. But you there's just something about those fucking low Poly PlayStation One and to. Take for me, there's also the load screens. The load screens, you take all of that ever I mean. Yeah, like that one and two both look rough compared to. That's interesting because like, yeah, like. You hear that horn go off and you go, oh shit. Yeah, the the movie comes out soon. Oh yeah, we'll see how they do with that.

I don't know. They're getting better with transferring stuff from game to TV or movie. Christopher. Gannigan I don't I don't understand how that. Yeah, that's odd, isn't it? How that went so wild the first time I'll be interested in CV. Yes, give him another go. Mean what? It can't be worse. Did you see? Todd Howard has said this week that Fallout 5 will continue on from the Fallout TV. Show. He didn't quite say that. But he's saying it's canonical.

It's canonical, so there's stuff that you know, be before and after. So it's going to be it's in the same world. Right. Which is. But I'd always kind of thought this show was just kind of kind of pick and choose from what's been out there and could recontextualize or what. But but yeah, no. But evidently it's it's Canon. Yeah, right, Because I know New Vegas is in the new season. Yes, I've heard people aren't a big fan of the new season at the moment. Oh, really?

Yeah, I thought people say it was good. I've only seen a couple of reviews and. What's that out fall out Season 2? Well, the only person I know who has seen it said it's. Episode 1's already out. Oh, is it? Yeah, Yeah. But of course, that's just to. Watch Stranger Things. First, people on the Internet. I guess Stranger things fucking release schedule is so annoying like. It's not annoying to me because I haven't even had time to watch all the ones that are out

already. But no, but just the concept of it, right? So they put 4 episodes out. It's it's what, 2-3? And one on Christmas Eve, and one on me. And yeah, and then one on New Year's. Eve yeah, fucking. What is this come? On like. Just if you're gonna do that, just do week to week. Because people are fucking busy. Like what are you doing? Oh, I watch. What are you trying to do with that? It's weird.

Yeah. Yeah, 'cause it doesn't even make sense in trying. To just extend people, how long? They're gonna get new subscribers for. It's not Yeah. It's not like you haven't made them. And you're gonna you finish. It on Christmas Eve, so you have to release it on Christmas morning, like people are busy at Christmas so. You're basically releasing it at the time of year when they're most least likely to have the time to binge it and then everyone's gonna just fucking spoil.

It's just such a weird thing to do. I don't understand. Or you're suggesting people should abandoned their Christmas plans and watch your fucking shows 1 episode. It's a strange thing. It's a really weird thing to do. It is. Weird. I I've. Watched a few episodes of this YouTube channel. I can't remember the name so I can't shout it out. But a guy who analyzes 80s TV specifically sitcoms just generally TV. But he was saying that the the

main reason TV is different now. I mean we we all know this is that TV used to be week to week and and now it's like 1 story for entire season. But he articulated it really well. He said that the reason for that is, is that the chances of you watching episode 1 of something was almost 0, right? Like chances are your friend told you about the last episode he watched and then you watch from the next one and onwards. There's no way to go back. Which is why everything you need to know about the show has to be the opening credits of the show. OK?

Yeah, that does make sense because. Yeah, there's no just take for granted. Whatever. You could just go watch, OK? Yeah, I'll go watch episode 1. Yeah, like. No, no, you'll watch what's on. Yeah, yeah. Which I guess is what. And they played them all out of order and. Whatever. Well, and they get which is indicated, yeah, yeah. They would just play random episodes. Yeah, sometimes, which I think is why they got confused,

whoever it was. That used to program television in the 90s when things did start to transition, like things like The X-Files, where they would play them sometimes out of order, and it was like, no, you're fucking up the mythology here, Firefly. Firefly suffered from that. Too. The worst? Offender for me. Was that great show American Gothic, if you recall that one, that's. Oh, that's right. Yeah. It was a confusing. Mess when they played that so

out of order it it just literally made no. Sense because it was very sequential. I know with Firefly they thought that the first. Episode of first two episodes were a bit too dark, so that's that's why they started with three because it was just one of the funny on Yeah, just like 1. Off yeah, instead of playing the first two, which explained the law. Of the world or anything starting the entire universe. Yeah, yeah. Now, I'll say this, that first episode, it's probably my least favorite episode of that entire

series, but not because it's, but just because after that it really ramps up and gets good. But doesn't mean you should skip that. You should still start at the beginning. Yeah, yeah. Right, so there's one more thing. We can probably squeeze in before we. Finish and I want to talk about this. So it's going to be a remake of Starship Troopers. Oh yeah. Well, I'll stop you there. There's going to be another. Adaptation of the Starship

Troopers book. Yeah, I was getting people saying that. This is going to be interesting because. In the book the Bugs, they. Actually have their own. Spaceships and stuff. They're not just bugs on the planet. And yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm interested to. See if he goes down. That path. Yeah, yes. Interesting. Because it's Neil Blomkamp. Neil Blomkamp, District 9 and other things. But District 9 is very good at

presenting both sides of an alien conflict, which is also the point of Starship Troopers. Yes. Is Robert Heinlein the book, right? Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And then? Yeah, the book is good. It's it is very different. To the movie because yeah, they've in the book, they're in the later movies, they got the power armor and stuff, but they have that the whole time in the yeah, in the book they didn't do like the the Hovens book, they didn't have any of that stuff.

The Hovens movie you want to talk about? Yeah, but the later movies are. Not good, no. Some of them are hard. I don't even. Remember, honestly, two was terrible. I think wasn't 3. Good. I think 3 was better. Because I brought back down what's his face? Because I. Think I remember 2 being. Unwatchable. I brought back Rico. They actually I remember watching. The doc, the commentary.

For Starship troops too. And I went like, we didn't really have the budget to do it, but we decided to make it anyway. And it's sort of like, why don't you just stop? Well, didn't they? Didn't the 4th 1A cartoon? For that exact reason I went to a screening of that. It was quite good actually. OK, there's actually a few different cartoon the. Animated one. Is the best or yeah that? They are the best of the sequels. It's been quite good, yes, Yeah, but.

Nothing beats the original. I was like top off as saying the. Read Journal District 9 was great. Great. Yeah. What's the one with Matt Damon? Elysium. Elysium. That was all right. It was just. OK, Yeah. It wasn't mine. It wasn't as good. It was Chappie. I really liked Chappie. I didn't. Know Chappie, not everyone. Does Matt, have we talked about

this? Have you seen? The documentary about D'antwood made by directed by the daughter of D'antwood. Oh no, Ninja and. Yolani's daughter. Made a documentary about what it was like having parents that are D'antwood. Yeah, it's very strange. I can imagine, right? What the fuck are they? Doing right now. Actually, I can sit in a big pile of money. Yeah, I haven't heard from. D'antwood since. Chappie Yeah, well, I think it started to come out that they.

Were pretty racist and stuff. I know there was a one of. The kids that they adopted went on a YouTube thing and did a big interview about his experience and it wasn't good. So yeah, I think they're just. Very strange. People like, I mean, clearly so I don't know, I think in South Africa. The poor whites are even lower in the food chain than. The poor blacks do you know what? I mean, like, I think there's there's this real old fashioned hierarchy and if you somehow became a millionaire famous jet setting Rockstar from that

subgroup, that must be a bizarre experience. You know what? Watch this. Oh yeah, I'll find the documentary that sounds. Interesting. I just. I mean, I find them interesting. They're very I like them in Mate when they're they're not the best actors, but I liked. Them in it, Yeah. There was one album that came out. With that, I thought was just fucking. Great. You know, like I was just like, yeah, no, they got some good

stuff, yeah. Yeah, it's just that the yeah, there's. A lot of controversy around. Them and they're yes, especially with the yeah, adopting the. Kids with. Disabilities and stuff like that. It's all a bit exploitative because they've done a lot of that I. I went to, yeah, I can say it. I went in Indonesia. In Sumatra, there's. As this factory where we were filming and they all the employees are disabled. And I mean really like little little 1 little hand coming out

of the chest like that kind of disabled. Oh, wow, no legs, just the little hand. I can make it all these things and interviewing the person who owns the factory and saying, yeah, we give these people a chance because no one else would, you know? And it's like, yeah, that might be so. But also from my point of view, this does not look good. Like the optics of this? How much are you paying them? Yeah. Yeah, I. Went to a place like that in. Vietnam and it's sort.

Of the same like they're taking sort of victims of Asian orange and sort of teaching them to sort of they're making sort of artwork and stuff. And why they explained it is they get they get paid while they're there, but they also get 30% of anything that's purchased while they're trying to invest into these people weren't partners. Yeah, just employees, yeah. Yeah. And look, I'm sure they were very grateful that oh. Well, yeah, you know, you know. If you know. I'm sure fucking this is not like if you're going to be this,

Indonesia is the last place you want to be. Yeah, but still I was. I'm able to get work since Total Recall came out. That's. Right with my third titty. We will go to the after party, but we did promise some Star Wars news so I'll just quickly put this in here before we move over. Lucasfilm were being sued by producers who claimed that they and they alone had the rights to reproduce Peter Cushing after his death. And therefore Lucas that's we're in breach of of of that copyright.

I think we can resurrect him. Yeah, yeah. And I think we reported on this one it when it was first came up and but they have they have it's been dismissed. So, Lucas. Cannot be I actually. Got a shock that they just didn't settle. Yeah, I guess they were just standing on. Principle on this because maybe they. Settled. They couldn't do it again in the future and they didn't want to, you know, there could have been some kind of. Yeah, because they were.

Only saying like we lost £250,000, they probably would have spent a lot more on Boys on time on this. So yeah. But yeah, it does set a precedent. That then other people. Can come and go. Hey, we want to see you for it now. Yeah. I think his family weren't happy about it either. But he's. He sold his likeness, didn't he? Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. Yeah, like gentle drones. Sold his voice.

Yeah, that's a weird one. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, on 11 labs which? Is. What I Dick around with sometimes just making Orson Welles say that he's my real dad and stuff like that. You can now license celebrities, shooters and Kane. OK, Yeah. You can license celebrity voices. And I believe. James L Jones is one of them. Really. Yep. OK, we could. So James L.

Jones could redo the intro. To this podcast, yeah, yeah, absolutely can. And not him, but officially him. Yeah. Like, it's not an impersonator. It's the most official voice. Him we're ever going to get to voice. It's possible. Yeah. Anything to do? Anything for any of us. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but also I'm also. Happy that he set. That precedent for book I'll sell my stuff for. People are just going to be crazy when people die and just

start making stuff. Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. It's not that. AI related stuff lately like with. Some game companies, but we don't need to talk about that right now. We could. Next week, I think we'll go to the irrelevant party, talk about who's dead, I think. Good after party. Join us at patreon.com/multiple Nargasm. Join us. Or die. One of us, one of. US Google Gobble.

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