OnlyFans Alternative: OnlyFans Porn Ban, Dune Sequel & Sean Lock Tribute

[Music] welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All Things nerdy now last week and I've noticed this a few times you get quite upset not the right word but you find it weird when I haven't seen some particular movies from like the '90s and stuff which are just dark city for instance did I get annoyed that you haven't seen dark city not annoyed but I has come up a few times like how can you not have seen this well that that is unfair dark city I think I don't know that a lot of not that a lot of people have seen it I

think it's not as big as I not as big as it was for me in the '90s yeah but I think I've worked it out cuz there's some stuff yep I've seen that you everyone's seen and other stuff but not not a clue because in the '90s I was in and out of Hospital oh sure so when I was out of Hospital i' have access to going to movies and things like when I'm in hospital you get Hospital television and that's it so that's why I have a reason why I haven't watched some of the great things that you've seen and you find weird and that's why you've seen so many more episodes of Days of Our Lives than I've seen exactly yeah yes yeah so I just I finally worked out why that sometimes happens I don't know why I haven't watched it in like the 30 years since you know I worked on Days of our

Liv why watch it originally was it fun it it was actually yeah it was cuz that would be like a well oiled machine wouldn't it because uh well they're just always making that aren't they it was like taking a worldwi machine and transplanting it into Sydney for a few days of of shooting so it was fine it was fine yeah it was a fun thing one of the most fun things that I did yeah so if you watch Days of Our Lives listeners and you saw an episode where there in I uh I helped I helped shoot that episode if it wasn't for you that episode wouldn't exist that's literally true yeah I helped uh protect Ron Moss from hordes of women at circular Key by um setting up a security barrier were there hordes of women there were hordes of women older women how old were they

kind of giggling about cuz he was he was at the at the barer having a you know being friendly he's a nice guy and he was chatting to them but we were like yeah he gets the uh he gets the older woman doesn't he I mean he's older I think but that's their target audience the people who are watching it every day and yeah I know I know hey I'll take any audience I can get you've got one you're talking to them right now I do ah sorry Watson just scared me she's on my lap and she just just woke herself up and scared me I don't I don't have a baby in here right now you don't have a baby well I don't have a cat anymore either she's left meia just sleeps through the night now oh that's great yeah apparently that's not that common so I think we're a bit lucky

there judging from my experience with children mhm if the first one does that the second one doesn't right so what you're saying is don't have anymore pretty much right well we'll see what happens now imagine we' started a business that just printed money okay without us really having to do much like we don't have to create content or anything like that people go out they do stuff we take a big chunk of their money and that's it right would you then decide to get rid of most of the content that's making you that money I can't imagine that I would your business going forward I can't imagine I would decide that no no okay so that's why theoretical right cuz no one would do that well only fans I'm not sure if you've heard of them or not they've done

just that no I've never heard of only fans so only fans it's a bit like patreon yeah except it's uh why they if you still look at their marketing for it it's still all this it's just a place for Content creators to get together and share their work supposed to be just porn right they've always maintained that but everybody knows it's mostly just porn it's supposedly porn yeah well not from the 1st of December okay so they came out with a notification to say no more yeah basically no more porn you can still do your your naked shoots and stuff like that but no more no more penetration okay okay all right so it's

it's it's specific it's not just no yeah yeah it's just like it's not like Instagram's like no nudity at all or anything like that it is just trying actually didn't I didn't know that I thought they were banning all kind of sexual content so uh yeah it's no from what I read was originally when this came out it may have changed this they Bing stuff like the it look like they'll get trying to get rid of like the coerced sex scenarios and the family scenarios and all that sort of taboo yeah yeah yeah porn stuff but then after seeing more updates it does look like they're going away that there's no porn penetration right going forward I I from what I understand this is I mean basically this is pornhub's fault because of what happened I forget when

last year or whatever there was a court case where uh basically people were saying PornHub you're not checking whether the people on your platform are legally allowed to be doing what they're doing in a in a video on your platform you need to be more diligent about making sure these people are old enough consenting you know all all this this is a revenge porn problem yeah at the time was the second they got any notification about anything about hey this is revenge porn or this wasn't cons or anything like that they did they were taking it down but they go no you need to be doing these checks before you go up and then there was that big call on PornHub where they basically right got rid of a lot of their content but the credit card companies are apparently not that's not

enough for them right is that what the problem is well this is yeah and this is the thing I find weird because yeah this isn't only fans deciding look we don't want to make money anymore no cuz cuz that would be crazy content yeah content creators are already looking to move to other platforms yes basic the problem was is think that's yeah only fans got too it was too successful yeah yep and the banks went look we don't want to be associated with this so yeah going to cut this out which I don't really understand well the what I an article I read said that the the the major issue is that as of uh I think October MasterCard in particular is going to require that a vendor AKA only fans is aware of

exactly everybody who is in the content right has verified the identity of them so every video only fans was uh I thought only fans was uh like you had to basically show verification of your ID and that everybody who appears in the content every but I I thought that was something they already had in place cuz I know with the cam sites that's already a thing where like so I can't even bring my friend on without them going through the verification process I mean this article I read could be incorrect I mean there's I think there's a lot of components to this that we're not privy to all of it cuz you're you're right like I've seen people on Twitter being like why would they just decide to do this I'm like well they wouldn't right so there must be a reason for it or or

several reasons and one one of the ones I've seen Flo is this MasterCard thing because they think Visa will follow suit so but it's basically if questioned you need to present the verification that you performed for any particular piece of content right so if someone says this video is on your platform who are these people in it prove that you verified the identities of everybody who appears in this and then I guess that's just insurmountable for them in theory yeah well that's cuz that's already what happens in has been happening in the porn world for a very long time when people Rock up to a porn shoot they're there and it's hey he's my ID he's you you know the process pretty well by now yeah yeah I'm really good at it and it's basically they go through

all the paperwork and signing like this is this person they're here to do this all the consent forms and that all gets recorded and that all gets recorded somewhere yeah right and so they can go like who was here on this date yeah for this and and that's a lot of with also the sexual transmitted diseases and stuff that they have that there so they can track if anything happens yeah but I think only fans you've got people just recording [ __ ] in their their Lounge rooms or bedrooms he's only yeah that's what it is so who [ __ ] knows who's in these videos well only fans don't that's the problem I think because the other thing is I think they I think they'd be required to to back verify everything that's on there which is like [ __ ] me right and I think and I think that's

where it's like a little bit different because it's not like with Like a Porn they go make a movie they make it and they move off with this the only fan crat is they're posting stuff daily yeah oh sure yeah imagine having to go and verify this video that video that video particular with the pandemic and everything because there's a joke going around now that that uh the as soon as only fans announced this all the understaffed restaurants Across America were like thank [ __ ] for that we get our employees back because well this is what people have been doing the pandemic there was a big spike in people doing only fans especially like even with um people who were already working in strip clubs and stuff yeah can't be there this has got to be saf here right

yeah but yeah so I have heard it is yeah it's coming from the the banks safer and more convenient to be honest to not have to [ __ ] bed to to go to work but with the the banks oh they're just making money for doing nothing there yeah but there's legal there's legal reasons I'm sure like they would do this they had to yeah it's because just what I mean if you wanted to do a legal [ __ ] you you could I guess yeah right no no but but like the only way to stop that from being possible on the platform is to just not have that content on the platform it seems like to me like how how do you police this I don't think you can well it's one of the the things which um in America I think last year no before the

pandemic started there was um a big push and a lot of web pages were shut down for promoting prostiution and escort services and there was a big Crackdown um a lot of the sex workers were coming out going that's not actually going to help and stop what you're trying help what you're trying to stop which is like the sex trafficking and all that stuff all you've done is you've made it unsafe for the people who would choose to do this profession yeah fair cuz sex trafficking and all that that's still going to happen yes right it's be moved to a place where no one is able to monitor anything anymore yeah which I don't know I think a different way to go about this wouldn't be a no let's you can't do it to uh how do we

make sure that this is a safe okay platform like and maybe there's a way to look at automating having checks yeah I mean facial recognition people hate all that stuff though and also also I don't know how I mean presumably only fans has made a lot of money I would guess yes over the last I don't know how long has any fans been around and I have no idea but they make money off this stuff for sure yeah so you think they'd be able to afford some good Tech yeah but look all that's going to happen now is and you're starting to see people are starting to try and jump to whichever platform yeah the problem is though if this is the credit card yeah the same thing's going to happen yeah but it it'll be it'll be the same

thing where it'll sort of fly under the radar for a while everyone will know about and then it'll just get to a certain size where then whoever's Master Card whoever go no we have to shut that down again cuz it's happened with a few platforms this yeah sort of has happened so you're I I get it I get it you're suggesting we start our own only fans alternative that's what you're suggesting yes that's exactly what I'm suggesting and and then when it comes time to uh hey you got to get off the thing we just go and we don't care and just sell the business walk away sell it to who sell it to who hang on a minute it's like that whole thing about when there's a natural disaster and people are like oh they just sell their house and move away sell the house to who oh the amount of money

that I'm sure we're going to make by that stage I don't care I'll sell it for a dollar yeah all right fine yeah we walk away fine we just turn the servers off and leave I think maybe you've shot Us in the foot by announcing this as your opening kind of pitch is that we've to build this platform and as soon as it gets too hard we will walk away come on [Laughter] over I think it could work um yeah yeah I mean I imagine patreon's already I I imagine figured this out somehow patreon's been around a lot longer right and I mean people bailed on patreon although from what I understand only fans has well was reading into this this week it sounds

like only fans has got features that that I I mean I don't fully understand but patreon doesn't I don't I I don't know it seems like it sounds like it's geared towards this kind of stuff where you get tips and things yes it's because that's it started off as basically just a rival the patreon yeah like exact same thing but then when the business started to go this way you make adaption to what your customers want what your content is yeah yeah because I I was like what because we don't I don't I mean patreon doesn't have that as far as I can tell no I I honestly I patreon why they do have they don't have porn on there do they I think they can I think you can do por I think they originally did but then I think there was sort of a Crackdown which sort of

led to the move to only fans to begin with I think there's like the the LW stuff cuz we got flagged because they have some automated system and they picked up just cuz some of the the stuff we had linked to in the show notes and that they said they thought we were 18 plus content and I I was like does that mean cuz we swear sometimes and I actually emailed them and I said hey are we at and they they looked at what basically looked at the show and then came back and said no you're not sorry that's a mistake yeah so they have an automated system I guess that that looks into that I think they allow nudity I don't think they go right um while we l new for creators we push the B up we also have guidelines against finding finding pornographic porn pornography on patreon

okay so and I think that's where that initial move over and that's where only fans got its thing and right probably makes a lot more money than patreon oh yeah almost certainly yeah yeah well not anymore no I mean and I'm sure they didn't want to do this but no cuz as I said said it just is basically printing money for them why would you get rid of your right unless you're presented with legal requirements that you cannot meet yeah which cannot meet sounds like that's that's what's happened they don't think they can keep up with the legal issues yeah all right well so where you going to move your uh your content then I don't know I'm waiting to see where

the Crowd Goes first oh yeah you are a bit of a follower yeah well you don't want to go all in with something where if not the traffic's not there if you're not getting enough people noticing you y that's fair make a lot of money for my only fans yeah I'm sure yeah I also have no idea why I know so much about this stuff nice save Luke nice save the thing is I don't actually don't have an Oly fance account I don't go to it I know Luke does not really post his content on only fans he uses some other platform you won't tell me what it is no well I know one of the things that they do have an only fans they you can lock down what

areas can see it so I could lock down that my only if I was to have an only fans account that you couldn't see it in Rhode Island you'd have to get a VPN to go somewhere else riew my cont I know why you're being so suspicious about this I have account I could make it so that you wouldn't be able to see it moving on what else has been happening you have predicted that Dune is not going to be getting a sequel yes you you've they haven't started it yet yeah and Deni villanu has come out this week and said that he he's feeling positive about it but it is going to depend on the box office of the first one which oh yeah which concerns

me because yeah Dune is I think maybe a bit Niche so it is I also I had a very quick look at this article and there was one thing I found quite strange in It Go on um and this is something I think was a problem with the sequels for Star Wars like for awakens and stuff is he's still writing part too well he is however it's based on a book it's not like it's not like the plot is being made up I I know a whole cloth as he's going along he already knows what's going to happen he's just writing the script yeah I know but I still feel you should have really the entire thing fleshed out before you

go yeah I I just a feeling we'll see uh yeah it's find out in a few weeks I guess and the question is too uh it's launching on HBO Max at the same time which that's and there's I think maybe that doesn't count towards box office so no they'll look at how much money it brings in it's not like how they're going to be paying it this that'll be a financial thing like how much money do we make off this is it worthwhile us giving more money to make a to finish it well he's also announced this week well he he said this week he's excited about part two because um Zenia is going to have a bigger role in it and she's a great actress so that's cool I do I do

like her uh and then he also has said that he wants to make Dune Messiah which is the the sequel book which would make it a Trilogy of movies and I'm like dude should have led with that people love Trilogy yeah I was like dude just hang on just chill out and try just see if you can get the second one made first they might not even let you make two this is where he's got wrong you lead with the trilogy yeah right okay everything's a Trilogy maybe The Hobbit one book that's now a Trilogy I know it didn't even need to be a [ __ ] Trilogy I think he's made a mistake there well he's trying to rectify it now he he's he's trying to sell him on the uh mayy go you're like hey this could be a Trilogy that that might work in his favor now all right let so he should

have come to see me first they could have told him all of this at the start yeah well I'm sure he knows now but screw making it a movie it's uh it's a it's a TV series no it's so much better no he specifically says in this article that he thinks it's a ridiculous Choice he thinks you're ridiculous because he hasn't spoken to me he says Luke Alderson is ridiculous well if he I would have got the second part made let's see what happens with you it says here I watched Luke's rant on his only fans wait a minute what let me do another search for this it doesn't show up every time every time I read I take an item of clothing off I just I've searched I can't find it it's almost like it's locked in Rhode Island somehow no know I just don't have one I

don't know what you're talking about no that's what I mean seen no evidence of one all right never mind top 1% only fans Luke you're the 1% of the 1% top% only fans only fans looks like we were too late again too late to the boat the internet really just came at the wrong time for us we just missed everything no we were around for this we just we were around for it but we were just a wrong age we were at the transitioning age from teenager to adult it's like this it's like I know everything everything that's like popular I just don't quite get like only fans I I don't quite get it right and

maybe if I like know maybe if I had an account and like but I just I just don't quite understand it I mean like I guess there's a pretty simple way for me to to find out and that is to sign up before October or whenever when are they doing this sorry we didn't cover that when is this band happening how long have I got to try and figure out what the [ __ ] only fans is before it goes away I I believe from o October you're not allowed to post any more pornographic content you can still get it on there but from the 1st of December you can't have it on there at all wait so so hang on those months you I you may have got those swapped October

you're not allowed to post any new new pornographic content yes from December has to be removed from the site I thought you said September and I was like I may have like that's a month forgotten the order of the months um do they really matter I mean chronologically they do if you're trying to tell a yeah you know try to schedule things fine I I I want Le people who thinks we should get rid of time zones get rid of dates hang on time zones dates no but time zones we don't need time zones it's too confusing uh yeah well sort of yeah okay but but so imagine we're organizing a time to play a game M and I just say say let's be online at 1:00 a.m. mhm and you go okay I'll be online at 1:00 a.m. I

see we we'd have to get used to the idea that for me 1:00 a.m. theoretically would be in the middle of the day it could be the middle of the day and things like it would be a big adjustment but it we get rid of daylight savings cuz yeah what good is that we should get rid of all of that stuff makes organizing meetings so much easier it's like how would you go you go what time's work start 9:00 a.m. no doesn't no it doesn't I think there would be a period of adjustment where what time works start you got to start at 3:00 a.m. okay and then your work days from 3:00 a.m. to whatever 8 hours is later easy take it take a while but say this will happen overnight but yeah well you wouldn't know it was overnight cuz you wouldn't know what time it would just well night

still happens no no well not anymore it doesn't Luke you've ruined it night wasn't the dependent on what time it is I think you'll find it is I think you'll find it where the suns are fall down I see what you're saying night day happened before we had watches how is the Sun going to know when to go up or down well it actually doesn't go up or down it just goes around and around what around what Luke the Flat Earth no no no yeah so it just goes around in a circle and just circles over the top of us oh all right no that makes sense so so when you see it going down it's not going over the horizon it's just going past your point that you can see and and that's why it's goes to night there and it's light over there all right actual Flat Earth

argument science Welcome to our science podcast there's some video game news from Quake con that's been on this week they accidentally released I think before they even announced this they they already released it but uh Quake is back on everything I think it's on everything now oh on everything now I found it weird that Quake con's still going when they're not really releasing Quake games they have just going through a re-release but when was the last like real Quake game like was it Quake 4 I had to know well I think I think there was a I think that was the last one with campaign I think there was another PC one which was an online death match but it's not like they've been so I just found it weird

that Quake con's still going I think Quake 3 was the last one I played is there a quake four I mean there probably is yeah there is how do I not know that I guess I just was very good yeah I didn't play it obviously the last one I really played I did play Quake four but the last one I really remember playing with Quake 3 Arena oh okay Quake 4 this looks like the Doom 3 engine so this a while back I guess that was nice of him to come out and go hey and because cuz they fall under bethesa don't they yeah it his own by Bethesda now yeah yeah who was owned by Microsoft Quake comes out Game Pass here you go yeah and I'm thinking about going back and playing it and it's got apparently the the original Trent resona soundtrack was not included uh if you bought it recent no

no no it is it is now oh oh awesome I I didn't know this but apparently if you bought it recently like before this version came out you didn't get Trent soundtrack but this one you do yeah music and video games has always has always had that weird relationship like Allan Wake yeah but they so we got Quake on the Xbox and then on PC I think we got uh Quake one two and three oh okay Quake 2 was the first one with the uh 3D card support right remember Dave's [ __ ] 3D effects card the [ __ ] yeah the voodoo yeah yes yes that was the first time I ever saw that in use was Quake 2 and it clicked yeah and I was like oh it's not no moving Parts on it but it

clicked yeah and I was like oh it's it's not blocky and weird looking it looks all smooth and 3D actually if you go back and look at what you sure I'm saying in comparison to what to what it looked like on my computer on on with that video card it looks much better it's not meant to look like this yeah but yeah yeah on Game Pass and also on PC yeah we also got two and three no achievement on those ones unfortunately H so you won't be playing them no which is unfortunate I do like playing games sort of I don't think you do uh I think you like getting achievement one two and Quake three Arena oh maybe I do want to play Quake three Arena I many nights of all of them you can't play that one that's you need other people I have to play with people I'm

saying but I can get my guy who rides the skate or the hoverboard thing yeah that's right there's only one map I'll play is that which one get what it's called the one with all the portals that's up in space Oh no two maps there's one the portals where you go across and then there's also that Tower one where there's that big circle in the middle and then yeah yeah they're the only two maps I know actually I'm gonna have to we should install that and at 1:00 a.m. we all L on and we'll play it all right I wonder if we could just if we just start doing this do you think everyone will follow I mean I don't probably not but maybe people would follow I think it's something that was put out uh quite some years ago that there'd be like an internet time but I don't think it it didn't take

off I don't but it's worth a shot I think if enough people were to buy into it yeah I'll talk to my only [Laughter] fans so the other news coming out of uh Quake con is that I mean shock horror Skyrim's getting another release and it's another paid one this is Skyrim anniversary edition I guess yeah so there's two things that happening so will Skyrim will be getting a Xbox series X update yes so that's Co you can get that for free mhm okay but if you want you can also buy the anniversary edition which comes with everything in the special edition that you probably already own plus fishing plus fishing plus yeah it's got

some stuff that I don't know I think they've looked at the mods community and going this stuff's pretty good let's include this in the game so there will be more in it wait but they're just mods that you could get anyway they're mods that you can just get anyway but the mods if you for someone like me an achievement Hall you put any mod on you can't get any achievements oh but if they're in the game I can go through and play some and some of I don't know what I'm interested to see what they put in because they they are putting in the um there's going to be new quests and bosses and weapons and spells so there might be enough there will be I'm going to buy it just take my money do the good thing isor did you just say did you just say

like is this all new achievements right because you know when a new addition comes out you get the achievements all over again if it yeah if it was just going to be like a his an update the series X upgrade there probably wouldn't be achievements with the anniversary edition there'd have to be new achievements with it right okay so that's why that's the only reason why I would get this the new addition and I think I think they know that they know that you specifically I think they know there are enough people out there that will buy this again and one of the contributing factors will be there's new achievements or trophies yeah it's not it's not something everyone looks at but that's a market for it so why would you not do it

yeah I realized so they released a uh Next Gen update for The Witcher 3 right that came out um I don't think that has yet I think it's coming out later in the year going to be a new see for it all right players Henry Henry speaking of Henry we had hurricane Henry come through on the weekend uh how hell was that cuz I remember you getting warnings and telling us about it and then there was nothing and I didn't think a check on you already I mean it's made a mess in my yard I'll tell you that I used to instead of thinking oh my God I haven't heard from Matt I hope he's okay I just went haven't heard from mat I assume he's fine he tell me otherwise it's fine um it just made a mess there's leaves and branches and [ __ ] everywhere I got to go clean up at

some point except it's still raining so I'm not doing it now is it just sort of normal with the fact that you live in oh this is worse than normal is it more than okay yeah yeah it it made it's come and gone I think so yeah I or you're just in the eye of the storm now maybe but I think we're fine I think we're good it's just Henry's a nice name for it Henry with an i as well for some reason ooh in h n r i not Henry I think they Henry they go M they alternate male to female names for hurricanes don't they I believe do they I think so let me know next to Hurricane what they call it Henry has weakened so I guess I don't know he's it

just doesn't have the stamina apparently not a weakening tropical depression oh he's suffering from depression I'm depressed he's looking at my yard he's like oh I didn't make as big a mess as I thought oh well the other thing that came out this week I forgot to put this in the spreadsheet uh cyber Punk got a huge patch this week and people are complaining are they people piss me off I haven't even looked I don't I don't care what people say so I stopped I didn't I didn't look okay so what happened is they released this big update yes and then they also released some free DLC yes nothing major but like you can change what Johnny looks like new jackets and some a new car just all

three yeah just some some complaining about the yeah people are complaining about the DLC going this isn't very good we want more and they're and they're so of no no the big thing was the big update we gave you this is just some like cherry on the top like here's just some extra stuff but the game runs better well not only that this this update had so it's got so many things in it that when they did they did like a live stream update of it right they and they they featured certain things and there's so much in this update that after the live stream people looked at the release notes for what's in this and they were like why didn't they feature this why didn't they feature this why didn't they feature this it's cuz well they can't feature all of it they don't

have time yeah and like every every person is interested in some specific thing but there's so much in this for example it's got a there's a new um mod like a cyber mod that where you can go invisible look they added a whole new thing right they didn't that's a whole new way to play the game they didn't even mention it yeah you can go you buy a new mod that makes you makes you invisible like something camo um okay so there's a I mean yeah they can't go through huge release don't want them to go through every single update that they people making games you would watch that uh so yeah I guess bottom line is this huge update not the Next Gen update yet so I'm not going to do a replay it made me want to like do a replay but I've got to wait

honestly I'm not going to go back to it not until the Xbox series X upgrades it till there's like the actual DLC that comes out like the his more game and then I'll do the replay but the thing is you didn't you finished everything I didn't intentionally I I what I'm going to do is as soon as the Next Gen update comes out I'm going to start a new game and I'm actually going to do what you did which is play every everything everything yep do everything but the mission well I'll do that as well but I'll do that last yeah last yeah uh there's a couple of those like police missions that weren't hard but they were hard to find out where they started but that's probably going to be fixed now yeah there was just one that there was the entry to it was just

hidden away even when you followed the map it would take you to like a bridge yeah and you go underneath and you can't find where it starts you go above it and it ended up being like a side door down the beach somewhere but they probably fixed that now yeah the only one I had sort of trouble finding there's um mini Map update so when you're driving the mini map zooms out and then puts the car kind of like re recenters so the car's at the bottom so you can see where you're going better which was a common request and uh I the people annoy me people everyone's like oh you know we asked for this eight months ago when the game came out why did it take them so long so because you don't know

how the [ __ ] game works right you've know have you made a game no shut up and because they're like oh moders had this yeah the moders made it and it didn't work properly because the way the game works it streams in the content around you when you're moving around the game world when you're driving right it's got to stream in content really fast so they can't just zoom the mini map out they have to change how much world gets streamed in like it's it's mhm bottom line it's complicated shut up like and now you've got it and it works great so [ __ ] hell although sometime moders do come up some really good stuff did you hear about the modder recently for GTA 5 which he found you know how Grand Theft Auto 5 both versions all version they just took forever to load oh sure

oh I did hear about this yeah yeah and this mod came up and was having a look and went through you've this file that go through and loads everything if you remove that the game loads like in seconds and they gave him 10,000 bucks and they made that update and the game loads so much faster now it's ridiculous how fast well I mean yes because he's thinking outside the box he's not entrenched yeah you don't miss the forest for the trees kind of thing like as a you know software developer that happens and the models do a great thing [Laughter] I could I could load it on my cuz I've got a launch day Xbox one uh that I guess I could if I wanted to still got mine I wanted to punish myself I guess I

could try and play cyber Punk on that see what happens and this is the thing i' I've said quite a lot like sort of sucks that they did make it to go on that older console cuz they spent so much time working on that when they could have been working on making the version that worked good better not the version the old version work yeah cuz we would have had DLC and everything by now uh someone waking up no work Dan asked if no no no it's Dan he asked if we could be flexible on time but he asked after we had already started oh they could have been here if we had have read our messages no well he I mean to be out offense he asked 15 minutes into the show so yeah and he did say he wasn't going to make it so we're good I watched something that you mentioned

last week that watch what did you think I I haven't watched all of it so so no spoilers although I don't know if you could spoil this show but but don't try no you cannot I've been watching brand new cherry flavor which uh is a Netflix show we talked about it bit last week uh yeah it's [ __ ] great it's it's weird as hell it gets weirder and I it has been getting Weir I'm about halfway through I think we've watched four or five episodes and yeah it's [ __ ] weird but I like it yeah yeah I it's it's weird I don't understand it I think I need to watch it again it's got a very David Lynch David Cronenberg Vibe there's a lot of weird body horror [ __ ] and then also some weird David Lynch very like uh it's very

dreamy right it doesn't feel like it's it doesn't feel like it's real it feels like it's you're watching someone's dream almost which is weird cuz when it like first starts it feels just like it's a a girl going to Hollywood to make a dream thing and that's just the tone that I thought it was and then you get into it you go nope yeah you're right because the first episode's fairly straightforward and then till the end and then you go wait what and then what then it gets worse then you have to watch the next one and then it gets worse from there like worse in I don't mean worse I mean worse in the if if you were confused by the end of the first episode you'll be more confused as time goes on yes yeah in a good way I think but I like it yeah it's

good it's good I recommend it if you're into that kind of thing if you're not into well I guess I don't know I was going to say if you're not into like David Lynch you might not like it but then you're not really into David Lynch you liked it yeah but who knows I I like weird stuff and then I don't like popular stuff and then I guess this is not as weird this is not as weird as a Lynch thing maybe but it's got yeah definitely got a lot of weird body horror and uh yeah I think with this because the there's always something happening yeah like it doesn't just he's someone mopping sweeping the floor for 15 minutes yep oh you watched twin Fe the return did you no I haven't I've just

heard about it I knew I would not enjoy that but that's why the story progresses yeah all the time there's something T pigs to return is great go on I'm sorry no I'm just letting you think about twin PE I know how much you love it I do love it I do love it I just don't know why I don't know what it is I don't know what it is that David Lynch does I'm not sure he knows but he just does something where it's like this nonsensical [ __ ] is for some reason he he does it well cuz he has to do it well so people will give him money to do it sure cuz he's able to do it in a way that people are drawn to it I remember if anyone else was to try this go hey I'm going to have this set up and

we're going to have this guy sweeping for 15 minutes and they're going to go no right but he's just like he's like yeah he doesn't explain himself either we watched uh red letter media did a they did originally they did a start Tre trivia and then they did a followup which was a fake out cuz it was like looked like it was going to be more of the same thing but then it was David Lynch trivia and they played this clip where it's this interview with David Lynch where he's like I would say that eraser head is my most spiritual film and then the interview was like oh okay could you elaborate on that and he goes no cool well he's [ __ ] great but why does he have to explain it well he won't and yeah I mean look up 90% of the

interviews when people asking questions about the movies he just won't answer them so and his master class is bizarre it's bizarre brand new cherry flavor I'm really enjoying it yeah yep and yeah and I enjoy it as well and I'm not someone who would normally go for something like this but yeah definitely give watch as while watching it I often thought I wonder why Luke like this yeah I don't maybe it's just the boobs it could be you just like Rosa Salazar it could just be that yeah I don't think it is yeah we didn't like a leader cuz I was watching before that you didn't like a i i l a leader did you yeah you didn't Dan didn't yeah somebody didn't I loved it yeah no that was a great movie I own it you own it I purchased it you own the

rights to a lead well get the sequel made what are you doing I'm just waiting for the right time when is the right time how are you you know when my only fans gets [Laughter] closed uh I watched a documentary as well it's called the case against Adnan Sayed and it came out in 2019 so I'm a little late to the party but it's like a followup to seral okay so did anything happen cuz I remember at the end they were sort of looking at it going back to court maybe or yeah so I mean spoilers it's not really spoilers yeah exactly well as he's still in jail so that didn't work out but this documentary it's interesting right

because it does a good job of following up on serial with more evidence and more I I I I think certainly more evidence that he may have done it no well more evidence that the way they presented it the way that the police said that it happened is probably not true right there's there's there's a lot of evidence that it didn't happen the way that they said and that the people involved lied and that possibly were coerced by the police threatened with drug charges just kind of just some kind of almost kind of scary stuff where it's like basically and I don't mean like it's not see a conspiracy right the way that making a murderer kind of presents this conspiracy of police that I think is a little bit unbelievable ridiculous yeah but in this

case it's it's more that these are busy police officers in a city with a lot of a lot of murders they're pretty sure they know who did it and so they're just trying to wrap things up in a neat little package so I can go work on the next one get a conviction right so I I think it does a good job of of showing that the way that they said that it happened probably didn't but I I don't think it does a good job or or I don't think anything has done a job at all of of trying to show who the [ __ ] did kill her then right it doesn't there's no evidence that anyone else killed her the only suspicious thing really is the fact that that guy who found her body was almost certainly full of [ __ ] about how he found it but they never followed up on it so too too late yeah like not

going to find anyone else now one of the weird things that can happen in America with um police interrogations police are allowed to lie yes to get a confession yeah actually like we know you've done it we've got evidence they've already told us we've got footage shows you were leaving the scene they're allowed to say that to confession yeah yep yeah but because with their idea being right is that if you didn't do it you know that they're lying right because if they say I've got footage of you well you can't have footage of me cuz I didn't do it can you show me I didn't do it so you whereas if you did if you did commit a murder and they said we've got footage of it You' be like oh okay you got me like so I mean I kind of get it but then

it does raise questions in cases where you know like with the West Memphis 3 where they whether intentionally or otherwise intimidate a kid into incriminating themselves like that's not cool no and some I think sometimes police don't know that they're doing that cuz they've just been trained to behave a certain way they don't I mean not saying that I'm [ __ ] smarter than you know I I'm smarter than some of them I think right that's all I'm saying is there's a range of intelligence of people and I think some some people are blunt instruments and they don't necessarily understand what it is that they're doing they've just been trained to do a certain thing and they get results so they misunderstand what's happening that's what that's what I'm

trying to say yeah you're not saying defund the police no I'm saying some police officers are trained to behave in a way and they don't realize that they're coercing confessions out of people cuz they can't see the forest for the trees right that's right well they just don't understand why it works no no they told me do this I did this and they did that so it's all good yeah he said he did it yeah but people lie why would he lie because people are complicated man like yeah he's scared and also you've just been talking and trying to telling he's done it for the last 12 hours while he's had no sleep ex and and he's borderline disabled anyway yeah ad don't say Ed still in prison uh

yep and as one as we thinks he probably because he he he would he would probably be out by now if he said he had done it yeah well they do in this they they do say he doesn't get offered there's a thing called an Alfred plea which is what comes up a lot of the time in these cases where you can you can maintain that you're Innocent but you accept the guilty plea which means that yeah basically you're saying yes they prove they have enough evidence to make a case against me that I can't prove I didn't do it however I'm going to say still that I didn't do it but I will accept that I've been found guilty they didn't even offer him that they just said you have to admit that you did it and we'll give you another four years and you can get out and he said no I'm innocent I

didn't do it so therefore he did not accept but yeah so I mean honestly I no [ __ ] idea whether he did it all it proved is that all it proved is that we don't know as far as I can tell all it proved is that that the way that the police said it happened I don't think it did happen that way I don't think it could have so that's unfortunately with the documentaries and everything they're there to put forward really why they do say they they had to put forward the facts unbiased way they're biased like it's all there to make you watch and get interested and well look at season two of making a murderer right a lot of that stuff is nonsensical like the brain fingerprinting all this kind of stuff

that they did it's just theatric right yeah people eat that stuff up oh [ __ ] I eat it up I get I I watch it and I get annoyed while I'm watching it but I still watch it cuz it's still interesting I will not start watching any of it but the second I walk past Hannah's got one on yeah well I'm there to the end yeah can't walk away from him and that's the problem with these old cases too like I think sometimes like I said police are busy they think they figured out who did it so they ignore evidence and focus on one particular person and then by the time it gets to like what what is it 20 years later and it turns out maybe this guy didn't do it well who did then cuz it's too late cuz we [ __ ] it up cuz we thought this guy did it cuz yeah at some stage they're not trying to

investigate what happened they're trying to investigate to get the conviction for that person cuz there's 10 other murders piling up on their desk and they've just got to get through them cuz they're not incentivized to act it's not like Columbo where they're like focused on one case for like you get one case a week no it doesn't work like that his Baltimore here's five murders that happen today solve them yep yeah and we'll have five more for you tomorrow and solve them is in quotes arrest somebody for these murders is what they're actually saying yeah I just need Phoenix right he'll sort it out yes guilty until proven

innocent oh I bought the new um Ace Attorney Chronicles I haven't played it yet though on the switch it's it's like a prequel to all the Phoenix Right set during the Victorian era oh yeah okay it's going to be sick I can't wait cannot wait I still there's ghosts that help you and can't wait yep yep okay those games are [ __ ] awesome and ridiculous all at the same time but yeah so great makes me laugh the [ __ ] prosecutor just keeping evidence in his pocket so that he just he can just whip it out in the middle of the case and just be like aha you're wrong here's the [ __ ] murder weapon

with the guy's fingerprints on it it's like wait you're you weren't required to enter that into evidence at the start the [ __ ] I still just love the the judge I know you proved that they didn't do it but someone's going to go down for it some prison might as well be you yeah just like real life yeah so you're going to have to pitch me on geek of the week this week I am I've got one to pitch you and then you've got one to pit me cuz I don't know who this person is I probably will once you explain it but I don't know from the name who this person is MH all right well you go first all right and I cuz you've got an article at least in here I could click ontic got a YouTube link

so uh this is slightly old news I didn't know about this until last night and I was literally going to bed and got depressed because I learned that Trevor Moore founder one of the founders of Whitest Kids you know uh died on the 9th of September and he died of an accident in his yard and that's all that's all we know he had an accident 9th of September 9th 9th of August did I say September okay [ __ ] got yeah got Luke's disease you got September on the mind got Luke's disease oh right no so you think maybe it was me that misheard you that could be true what uh oh I I I always find it weird these yeah like an accident yeah he just

died in his yard of an accident what the [ __ ] does that mean but listeners if you don't know the whitest kids you know you what are you talking about what are you doing go on YouTube and Just Google YK UK sorry WK UK and look up some sketches and watch the uh the grapest sketch the grapest uh John Williams would not be made today oh God no no none of none of these very different time yeah the uh the popcorn sketch which is about the uh it's it's actually it's this guy it's Trevor Moore talking about how it would be awesome if uh chicks had balls and then he gets mad when everyone says

that that's a bit gay what's gay about it it's a chick with balls anyway he's dead unfortunately it makes me sad he was a funny guy well the one I have for you this one makes me sad go on it's Shawn lock who is sea lock I'm going to Google in a minute but explain to me first I don't want to I don't want to cheat the thing that most people would know him for now would be 8 out of 10 cats and 8 out of 10 cats does countdown I don't know what that is we've been through this yes and that's what I just remembered I've tried to explain this to you before and yeah it's a British show and he was one of the team captains so it's a it was a panel show but he is

known for doing other things that was he's been he's he was 58 when he died so he's been around for quite some time oh yeah I didn't mention Trevor Mo was 41 he was 58 uh he was friends with Bill Bailey okay I know who that is yep um trying to describe him to me sort of British guy that doesn't help British guy he's dead oh that guy oh Henry the e i yeah I know him um a lot of British comedians are say he's the reason why they got into comedy and he was very funny I don't know who this is you don't know no you don't don't know who this is he's very funny there there's there's a sort of a push now to get a a book that he sort of wrote as a joke for 88 cats printed yeah

okay which is the Tiger goes out in the piss well I forget the actual name of it but I mean I will send you a link I may have seen him on something has he been on um seen would I lie to you has he been on that I probably saw him on that if he was on it if he wasn't on it um I wouldn't have seen him on there b b on Qi I've seen Qi before I don't know if I've seen him on it I may have um Sean Lock basically he's just done eight out of 10 cats since 2005 yeah okay well I'm sorry and then before that it was like seems like would have other stuff it seems like I would have liked you you would have liked him yeah sorry

sorry we never got to uh never got to enjoy each other this is actually a tough I don't I'm just going to give it to both of them the Dual geek of the week Geeks of geek of the week Geeks of the week GE of the week Geeks of the week I mention it I mentioned he was 41 right he was our age yes that's [ __ ] terrifying because you of an accident in your yard like what the [ __ ] does that mean I need to know well I wonder lad do you remember fful letter chainsaw chainsaw don't tell me that I've chainsaw I automatic I automatically go to chainsaw accident yeah like I've seen people have like you know those electric trimmers yes they they've got like the safety switch and then think I've seen people tape that

together so they could reach out one-handed while half holding to ladder I may have done that that's how people die in accident may have done that before so there you go yeah this is a bit of a reality check for me I think what is Sean lockd um lung cancer oh God all right he had cancer uh a long time ago and there's actually a story about how he found out about he had a one night stand after one of his standup GS he caught lung cancer from across no and the girl he was with basically went this is where when he first like with skin cancer many years ago and basically went hey you got this patch on your back that's a bit weird um and he went and got a check that skare say he went never met that woman again but I wow thank you there you go and then he's sort of been a sort

of advocate but for casual sex ever since yep but he he was diagnosed with quite Advanced lung cancer a couple years ago and was one of those things where he just kept working yeah right until the end and just and and yeah like um black panther he was he was he was black panther yeah yeah right like the guy who played the Black Panther chck bman yeah bman who just yeah basically went through all of that yeah all right amazing so all right so they're both Geeks of the week got Sean Lock and both Geeks of the week all right but the dying of the accident does remind of remember that was the actor who played uh check off in the new Star Trek movies yes how he died from an accident I don't

want to talk about that that's so terrifying yeah forgot to put the handbrake on I still think there's more to that because evidently he was coming back from acting class at 400 a.m. based on okay Jesus Christ like you got to be careful you think he was murdered I don't know I'm just saying it's a weird time to be coming home from acting class it's all I'm saying well not if maybe he like you did away with time zones where was it 400 a.m and if he then if that's the case then it's fine I got no more questions yeah now that story was terrifying cuz he got out to check the mail left the handbrake off and then the car and the car he didn't notice an accident yeah [ __ ] me and that's s like the accident there that

just in someone's backyard it's it can happen and yeah we are at that age now where yeah I know I mean if I when I go out I want to go out like Chris Farley there's a guy having a tantrum in an ice cream shop there's a guy I worked with who uh passed away about a month ago driving back from the snow right you hit black ice came off the road gone okay jesz Welcome to our comedy podcast you know here they just call it ice that's not a that's not a joke I said black ice once and then everyone was like it's just ice and I guess it's not a phrase they use here everyone was looking at me like I was a Wido probably not the first time and it won't be the last time but and then like why is it called black ice and I was like I think cuz it's on the road and it

doesn't look like I yeah cuz you can't quite see it and then yeah cuz it's black because of the road I think that's why not cuz it tried to steal my VCR that's all for this week thank you for hope you enjoy the show if you enjoyed it then please subscribe and item to receive episodes automatically we'll see you next time