Upside Down Canon: Obi-Wan Kenobi & Johnny Depp Amber Heard Trial

[Music] welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All Things nerdy I'm getting really annoyed with the amount of TV shows that are being released at the moment it's terrible actually it's more so just strange of things I'm upset with have you seen the runtime of their episodes the runtime of their episodes they're all like an hour and a half to 2 hours oh really okay so let's figure this out Matt so they're long episodes does that mean that Luke wants them out one at a time or all at once right one at a time right one at a time cuz yeah well though it's just

they're all evidently they're all going to be quite long and I don't know just with like other shows coming out that I want to watch it's a lot of time shows dedicate to I mean you've mentioned i' forgotten about stranger things until you said it and then obviously I knew OB want had come out haven't had time to watch it yet but what else are you gagging for well by the time I finish well I still going to to watch Twin Peaks yes oh okay well I mean yeah if you want to include things from 1984 on the list sure yeah then yeah you've got you've got almost 40 years worth you could have watched that anytime in the last 30 years but but then like um we've got the um Miss Marvel soon that's true She-Hulk shul Ellie mcul shul

mcve I'll say this the Andor show has a new trailer and it looks pretty good yeah watch um which is unfortunate because I've decided I don't like Star Wars well I thought the trailer looked good too and then I saw this article where the showrunner said the stuff in this show that's going to turn Star Wars cannon upside down people people think they know what happened with certain events based on what read on the internet on Wikipedia this is actually literally what they said based on Wikipedia and that kind of stuff and you're going to find out you're wrong that's not what happened we have just made don't like about the new stuff that it turns everything on it said but I think what he's referring to

is cuz this is going to be set before really the start of the Rebellion type of thing like when they remember in Rogue one they were talking about the factions and like some people were going over the head like going a path like with bombings and stuff like when there were Rebels but no Rebel Alliance yeah I was about to ask the dumbest question go on I was going to ask is this set before Rogue one and then I thought for two seconds about theot of Rogue One spoilers mat spoilers realize that was a stupid question I think it's also going to be because it's going to be a bit darker because you remember he him talking going like I've done some stuff there yeah some terrible I can't wait to see the terrible stuff he's done cuz I can imagine some pretty terrible stuff I

used to hang out with Frank lella at parties yeah that's right no it's set before that Matt it's set around the time of like Jack Nicholson's pool it's that era oh no but I'm looking forward to that I've watched the first two episodes of Obi-Wan yeah do we want to talk about that now I'm going to I'm going to yield the floor to You Luke because you've watched the first two episodes and I've only watched the first 20 minutes of the first episode before turning it off I've watched none of it so okay have you watched all two yeah m a spoiler I've watched it's not it's not a spoiler it's just it went in a direction I never thought about it actually going okay I thought it was basically going to be creepy old man watching a young boy on T

you me we were hoping I knew it wasn't that um Princess Leia what is in it quite a bit Matt there is so much kid acting in this show it is like Caravan of Courage if I had to if I had to find something that this was the closest to in the Star Wars cannon I'd say it was Ewok Adventure Caravan of Courage what the [ __ ] really yeah and that's basically how they get him off planet for the first time is hey you got to go help princess Leo so that's the minor spoiler huh I mean the good part about it is that Jimmy Schmitz is in it and and yeah right it's always good to see him also wasn't the whole point that like you look after her I'll look after

this one and then now it's like don't worry about him leave him there come and help this one cuz I apparently I I didn't know what I signed up for I guess yeah that's right no one did it starts off you know how they've all been been really careful not to directly relate to the prequels they've they've they've sure hinted at it once or twice and some continuity of casting but they've never acknowledged the prequels directly this starts previously on Obi-Wan Kenobi and then just shows a mashup of the prequels yeah I was like oh no well that's why they Hayden Christenson tried to warn us that's probably that's probably exactly he was talking about is like I hope you like if you like the prequels and I and I really hope you did

like the prequels if you worried about spoilers skip ahead a couple of minutes how am I going to do that the other thing I got a big shock about is how am I going to do that Ahad 5 minutes no no just the other thing I got quite a shock at I have to talk about it sorry I have to but obw 10 years later I don't know why princess Le is played by a girl so young when it's meant to be 10 years later she's not a 10 old yeah she's she seems younger but um Obi-Wan didn't know that Darth Vader Anin Skywalker was alive okay he finds out like after 10 years that he's alive and he goes oh now I hadn't gone up to that but but I hope I hope that is his reaction oh yeah and then Al yeah cuz like like he's on tne which is like the ass end of the

universe there's nothing happening there so why would he get news about I'll stop I'll stop you there Luke a lot [ __ ] happens on T I think so far from what I can tell everything happens there just about everything yeah also I learned this week tne is a place in Tunisia how disappointing is that oh wait there's a place in Tunisia called T oh that is disappointing wait was it always called that or did they name it that up because they filmed it no it's got different spelling it's got like you know native tan spelling I guess genius creative genius George Lucas that's right looked at a sign swapped some vowels that's where art comes from uh I big thing is I don't know if I'm

enjoying it you're not you're not Luke you know why cuz it's not very good yeah cuz if you were enjoying it I'm it's not insultingly bad like book of Boba Fett and that's the thing I I went in very negatively to this is so average that it annoys me and I turned it off last night not because I wasn't enjoying it I wasn't but I wasn't not enjoying it but I'm just I don't have the energy to just be [ __ ] about Star Wars you know I just don't I don't want that yeah I will watch every episode as it comes out but yeah I W I wasn't it wasn't like Boba Fett which I really did not like except for the Mandalorian episodes same it was but I went in with it very negatively that this was not going to be good and I got a shock that it wasn't as terrible

as in my head it was going to be but we'll still see we still got I think four more episodes is it it's only six but yeah I really get the feeling that Luke's not really going to be in it that's the impression please Lord make him not be in it please Lord Vader this is the good thing that Kathleen Kennedy's finally realized and come out and they're not going to recast any more of the original character after they've already recast all okay so let's say two people have played lukee now right two people have played Leia now two people have played Han now like [ __ ] half a dozen people have played chewy but that's neither here nor there who's left that she thinks we also don't want to

see uh they've recast Boba Fett twice I think the whole thing of it it wasn't just that she wasn't going to recast I think she was sort of hinting at they're going to start going away from that Skywalker Saga she just meant they're just going to CGI them now like they did with yeah car the problem is the stuff that people aren't liking and or ends up being controversial is all the stuff that's around that Skywalker Saga all the new original stuff like the M which was on its own had a few had a few characters that were sort of Side characters like ahoko and stuff but they were was its own thing people loved it and then it went oh let's do Bob F and it's s of like no stay away from that the Solo movie was pretty average no one really

Raves about it Rogue one people loved like they needed to just go adjacent yeah I agree and I think that's why Andor looks okay and if I like Star Wars which I don't I might check it out but I won't cuz I don't like Star Wars apparently but the thing that scares me now is just what he said about how it's going to turn cannon on its head that's the thing that people aren't liking and I feel like I know so favro was kind of The Man Behind the first season of the Mandalorian which I really enjoyed and then Dave filon I think he did an episode of it and then he started doing more and more stuff and it just seems like maybe that's what I don't like but he's more involved in everything now so that worries Fon he seems like is the Clone Wars that's what I'm saying he

seems like a nice guy but he's he's been in charge of all the he's been in charge of all the stuff I like as far as Star Wars yeah that's right correct yeah yeah he's not our man he's my favor thing done is the episode of Chef show that he was on which is with favro yeah exactly vaguely Star Wars related because they're in the kitchen at Skywalker Ranch but yeah I just don't I don't know is Skywalker Ranch an actual Ranch are there animals there yes yes um I've been to the gate couldn't get in he wouldn't he wouldn't let me Kevin Smith got married the buzzer oh I watched cuz I'm I mean I criticize Luke for watching too much television but I only watch the xfiles now um I mean season 6 and I watched um an episode where they go to Rachel

Nevada and they visit the mailbox which we saw Black Mailbox and they visit the uh little alien they're in there for a while yeah where I had the worst pie in America yeah unbelievable did they adverti it's the wor pie in America in Australia they have like the best pie in Australia pie in the desert like a yeah that's right yeah so we were like what the [ __ ] and Matt was like well all pies are fruit aren't they but then Matt was like do you see any fruit trees around here yeah sorry I in my head I'm thinking meat pie no it's America we don't have that cuz I pie in America is fruit yeah I'm still in Australia so I think it's meat pie apple or cherry or one of the two possibly apple and cherry yeah it was not good but it was it was disgusting like I can't imagine how like

I I've had it and I still can't imagine how you could [ __ ] a pie that badly yeah when we ordered it the guy went out the back and said someone's ordered the pie and they're like [ __ ] why what are we going to do find fruit is there a way we could make cardboard taste slightly like fruit the fruit pie not the sand pie the sand pie I can whip up we've got plenty of that yeah go back and ask him if you meant the sand pie yeah also listeners if you're thinking of going out to Nevada to see Area 51 just be aware there's there's nothing there there nothing to say a mailbox which is I mean it was fun we had a really good day but if if you were going with the expectation of seeing something interesting you're going to

have to make a day of it for yourself really like like we did yeah that's right which we did made absolutely but it was yeah I think if you had high expectations you would have been disappointed the only interesting thing that happened was when a car pulled up and a stranger asked us if we were going up to Area 51 and and it was just because it was another tourist who was also going up there and he just wanted know going going here yeah but of course there was that 1% chance that maybe you know that was a government agent keep an eye on us checking it out yeah yeah yeah no definitely not we're not that's right there's nothing to see up there boys mhm there not it's offense remember when people were planning to go to Area 51 and occupy area

get right that was yeah they can't kill do you have to be # they can't kill all of us and then and then 50 people did turn up and they just had a rave out in the desert it scares me cuz it's possible that people are stupid enough to try it though yeah if it wasn't probably probably if it wasn't so hard to get to so far out in the middle of nowhere according to the X Files right with the documentary series The X Files and bear in mind I'm I'm not at the end I'm only a little bit over halfway cuz it's 10 season I'm in six but this is further than I ever watched when it was on TV but uh when Lance hendri can come in is that that's soon I think uh actually that's a little further on because I'm at the point now

where Millennium was still on air and then they wrap it up cuz that gets canceled and then they they make the last episode of Millennium an episode of The X David wants to go off and do other things that's right and then Lance comes in but in in where I'm at now they've kind of confirmed aliens do not exist and that the American government are perpetuating the aliens exist story to keep people's attention away from what they're really doing which is I don't remember this at all so they're feeding molda and other people like molda little tidbits to keep him kind of blowing the whistle on all everyone say they're doing long that is what they're doing to Tom Delong Tom delong's new trailer is out have you seen this no it's called Monsters of California Monsters of

California and it's exactly what you think it's a movie where some young boy is suddenly LED on to the fact that there's aliens and he has to let everyone know cuz that's what Tom Delong thinks directed by tomong all right yeah y he didn't even get William Eubank who usually does his crazy science fiction videos he's just doing it all himself now Casper van's in it oo yeah so I will watch this yeah of the show that's that's an easy it I mean he doesn't look as good now as he did back in the thing she enjoys him in probably I like Casper V he is good he seems yeah yeah so do I he just likes being in stuff you know he's enthusiastic about things he married a princess and now he's like I just want to be in fun movies yeah he but don't forget he got

divorced from The Princess and that's where he came back to better his attitude and my other favorite is Kean re's attitude where apparently just on set he's just so [ __ ] enthusiastic about being in a movie even though it's like he's done it a million times Kean Reeves just still I love that but especially since Kean Reeves will just do movies that interest him you know what I mean like there was a while where he was just mad into science fiction so he would just do like Johnny monic Matrix just any science if you went to him and was like I've got a science fiction movie as I he like well let's do it yeah man totally I [ __ ] that his bodyguard on one movie turned to him and was like What if I directed a movie and it's just you doing stunts and

it's called John Wick he's like write it up let's do it I mean I love the um we've talked about this before probably the Squarespace ads that he did I love it it's so good so good she throws the laptop in the fire at the end yeah I'm using my own URL but you should use the name of your own company not mine all so good yeah cuz he's also in addition to being just awesome he's awesomely self-aware right like he knows what we think about him yeah and he plays plays to it and it's wonderful and he's but he's genuinely humble in interviews and stuff as well like people go oh you know you were great and this no look a lot of people are involved in making a movie it's not me it's just it's a team effort but then also he does go over bit over the line sometimes

remember in like when the Matrix no no but remember in The Matrix when he was like not we need to do that again and again he perfectionist state where it's like no I want to do that again no no we've got it and he just wanted to keep getting it but I love that enthusiasm too cuz he's like all right we'll do one more take and he's like then you can do two if you can do one you can do two I think you might change your tune on that Luke if you were in a movie with Natalie Portman and there was a scene you had to kiss her I think you might I could do that better wait I could do that better hang on isn't there a story about haen Christensen actually doing that somebody did that didn't they am I making that up I think it's is just a fantasy you had while you were

whacking off that could be [Laughter] true I'm sure it has been something that's sort of been said at in some interview at some stage for someone Natalie Portman needs to keep kissing me that I insist after thaty with the [Laughter] police is she still your number one Luke would you say Matt's Matt's pulled that out because that's an easy that's low hanging fruit for you but is would you say he asked her out so it's an easy yeah I mean that was [ __ ] 25 years ago no know but the heart wants what the heart wants Dan um I don't know he'd be by yeah that's what I'm asking him is he still is he still is he still feeling

like if she'd said yes my life would be totally different I [ __ ] would I'll tell you that no you be very different no it wouldn't Matt because he would have [ __ ] it up somehow on that first date there would be no second date and by the by the day after he'd be back hanging out with us in barington going yeah the only difference would be instead of he would have somehow got into his head that it would be a good move to break up with her and then yeah then yeah yeah to make her want him exactly unless that worked imagine it worked like and to this day Luke still gets [ __ ] calls from Natalie Portman yeah I'd be all right she's looking buff I'd be okay with that in the new Thor

trailer yeah yep kick all our hold you down there'd be nothing you could do oh no stop help Natalie bman got me oh she's inside me I'm whispering frantically for [Laughter] help do we have any Hollywood sexual predator news this week so we got what news Dan so we any Hollywood sexual predator news this week I mean it's a running segment we've got of course we do of course we do I was baffled this week by an article that popped up in my feed cuz I was like what year is this the headline yeah I'd actually thought that it was recycling old news and then

suddenly I realized no the headline molesting people again it just said Kevin spacy charged with sexual assault and I was like yeah we know uh no again obviously in England this time he's uh but he wasn't actually charged last time he was well that's fair cuz I remember cuz it was just it was cuz at the time it was uh the boy the guy who came out said I was 17 at the time I was lying in bed he came up try talk me I said no and then he left and that was like it can I ask a question about this if I remember correctly yeah you could be right Luke so last week and look in Australia we have only one we have we have sexual assault we don't have rape in the first second third degree we

don't have sexual battery or anything like this it's just sexual assault it's it's just you're not allowed to touch anyone who doesn't want you to touch them um I know other countries have very specific um laws like sexual battery with Andy Dick last week um sorry that wasn't the name of the show last we sexual bettering withy dick yeah that pilot did not get picked up but we weren't sure what that meant and I'm not sure what this means because he's been charged with a few counts of sexual assault and one that is I'm quoting causing a person to engage in penetrative sexual activity without consent so that's not penetrating them did he Force someone to [ __ ] him that's that is quite yeah like yeah I mean it could it could be either it it seems

like it's worded so you can't misinterpret it but I don't know what it means like oh we could debate the what the word means that kind of stuff no it's [ __ ] specific you did this yes you did this exact thing that you're not allowed to do yeah right so my question I guess is if you're Kevin spacy and you are known worldwide to be a sexual predator and your career is essentially ruined I thought he's back isn't he in a film now yeah that so that's what I'm was going to say starting to crawl back into your old profession and then you're like [ __ ] I'm just going to m three people no apparently this was in 2005 so this is an old oh okay so this is old this is one 2005 one so he has just he's just been charged apparently but it is stuff

that he's allegedly done in the past so okay I mean that's that is the weird thing is like why people but why people are coming out now and not back then or at the height of it when it when it first came out there must be a different statute of limitations in England as there are in America as well oh it says the decision to charge Spacey follows a review of the evidence gathered by the Metropolitan Police Service in its investigation so I guess they've been following up on it over the years and they've found something that makes them think they can get somewhere with it so but like the 2005 one like that would have been someone over AG I know in Australia there's sort of a stat of limitations except for if it's sort of children and then sort of if you're a

minor you can come out like many years later because you as a kid you sort of learn to repress it and then you may actually only realize what happened yeah when you become old but the one that's 2005 like that's someone over the age of 18 and it was like 18 years ago that just does say he cannot be formally charged until he goes to England again and so he's just never going to go says it's not clear whether he would be extradited uh I don't know how that works where is he now do we know he's probably is he in the US they still in America I think yeah cuz he's he's got no charges pending in the US everything was dropped right yeah he'd have to have some they'd have to have a very very very strong case to be go down the route of extrating him like it have to be like we we know

we've got video evidence to go down that path cuz if yeah that's just what I think I'm still not defending him I'm not saying what he's done he's right or anything has he asked approached you about defending him in court I'd give it a crack I I love that Luke in any context says I'm not defending he felt it was necessary to say that yeah well I just I'm not coming to defense I just sometimes both of you tend to go down a path to say he s a bit more than they have and I just go let's pull it back this is what actually happened no look I I'll tell you what actually happened he quote caused person to engage in penetrative sexual activity without consent allegedly it's all there in black and white allegedly allegedly [ __ ] looks like innocent till proven

guilty it doesn't mean it's with him either no that's what I want to know too did he force one guy to have sex with another guy Are there women involved I doubt it I don't think there's women involved I doubt it gross based on what I know of Kev spy I doubt it yeah he is not interested in women cuz that was sort of the last we sort of really heard of him he went I'm gay and he's done those stupid annual videos around Christmas time he does a little video character yeah and he did one again last year apparently it's like [ __ ] off I didn't watch it I watched the first one as a bit of an eyesa and then I decided not to give him the attention he clearly craves weird he's n but he's another one we talked about last week about how if there's rumors that you're a sexual

predator you probably are cuz when he was in Australia shooting Superman yes we had a friend who was a you know a crew member and was saying that both him and Brian Singer would just get boys brought to the set each day [ __ ] I me I shouldn't say it but I've I've heard I've got I know more than one person who worked on that film and said that so right mhm like my former boss the thing is all you did at the time is you sort of you sort of you sort of you sort of laughed at it and and both those people are you know in a in a kind of subcategory of people who who would know absolutely you know yes but yeah and it's just one of those things it's one of those things like people know about it but nothing happens well unfortunately it was

normal which I'm happily it's Chang it was not worthy enough it's notth it's it's abnormal enough that people whispered about it and said do you know that [ __ ] Brian Singer and [ __ ] Kevin spy have boys brought to the set each dat [ __ ] but not abnormal enough that people go from of course we know that everybody knows that yeah mhm mhm yeah yeah watched a documentary recently on Netflix about some um UK presenter oh Jimmy Sav Jimmy savil and I know that name I I I'd never seen Jimmy savil before and and then when his face came up on the screen in that documentary I was like well he's a

[ __ ] raving [ __ ] pedophile oh everyone was like nobody knew was like look at him because everything he sort of did was like everything he did in the Public's eye was he was helping hospitals raising money like doing all this great stuff but then on the side he'd just basically go to like a a school for troubled children and basically hey I'm going to take these couple little kids out with me for the day and I'll be back later and everyone's just yeah can I check these out for the day it's disgusting and everyone was f with it but it one of those things like there were Whispers but there was no one ever to come out and go no he's done this or it was but

and you can't prosecute on Whispers but Whispers come from somewhere they come from my bedroom while Nellie Portman's having her way with me stop it get off get off I'm getting off I mean get off get me off Steve kougan playing this Jimmy savil guy in a in a movie about this apparently oh I like Steve wow Steve I've seen a documentary I'm done yeah KGAN watch he'll be good G's good but I don't want to watch him molest a bunch of little boys no fair L you were going to argue with that well yes because it was also little girls oh was it I didn't watch the end I was like say gross I mean gross to both but

yeah neither is grosser than the other but you watch and then like [ __ ] off when when they were doing like interviews with him on television like to go like you've never had a girlfriend or anything like this he he s of like SL remarks that you've heard of oh it's like oh stuff that I'd be arrested for like he was basically yeah saying that he's doing stuff that sort of wouldn't be right but it was a joke so everybody when a journalist was said to him like you're just a saint mate you're just you're just out there doing good he's like oh I'm doing some bad too like y only God will be the one that judges me also a court of law [ __ ] told us no he died before it went to court that's a shame mhm basically it all came

to light and then shortly after that he died convenient oh no no no sorry he some stuff had started to comeing out and they had no when he died it was just at the start sort of start of it but he still had this big funeral and everyone was still supportive and then after it all came out which is a terrible that people feel that they're too afraid to come out and that's part of the problem when the whole Hollywood that is the problem people to afraid absolutely because if they come out it can ruin their career ruin their life because there is this perception that this is just just how it works right you got you got something out of it you you want job something out of it and you got and it's like it's just a transaction it's

disgusting which is and I don't want to get back onto the topic of this uh that's the question mark at the heart of this Johnny Depp Amber herd trial right now right because oh what's happening with that Amber herd has been testifying over the last week Johnny was Charming in in his week of testifying and he charming and he made everyone laugh and and it was all nice um seemed very natural admitted to his listen to those recordings yeah see but that's the thing he made you kind of ignore that cuz he was so charming and likable now she feels very rehearsed very stage very coached she doesn't seem very likable um it's it's it's painful to watch her testimony seem incompetent what are they doing you know it's because they're building a

narrative backwards they're saying okay this happened so therefore we need to tell you this story and then Johnny Depp's lawyers who obviously they're more expensive they're better lawyers they're just finding all the faults in it now I really hope she is guilty because if if she's not if she really was abused by Johny Depp and and he and then this is just the absolute epitome of what you've just described Luke which is just this Hollywood male domination I did hear one thing during the trial which sort of leads me believe that there might be some truth out there somewhere and this is something fact is Johnny Jeet will never look at her again like and one of the things he said is she will he will never see she will never see my eyes again oh and that's

recorded and and he's stuck to it and it's just that sort of pettiness that that control like yeah and yeah since that day he has never looked at her and I mean it's true he doesn't look at her that that's abuse it is but then she like there's plenty of evidence of her being a horrible person as well like Bea being horrible to a terrible doing like stuff to his sister and like just just they just seem like I think they're both they're both just ter there's this one argument that I don't like so they've brought in all of Johnny Depp's former girlfriends who have abused me said no he never did anything but I I I have a problem with that because I mean if you if somebody's up for murder you

don't bring in up everybody else they've met and he well he didn't murder me so he mustn't have murdered that person like that's not how it works well I think Kate Moss in particular Amber herd or somebody had testified that that at the very least Amber herd thought that Johnny de pushed Kate Moss down some stairs or something there was some story that was that was produced in court where there was Amber herd thought that this was a true story so they had Kate Moss on and they specifically said to her what happened on this vacation and she said I the the stairs where I slipped it fell down the stairs they said did Johnny push you downstairs he said no he said has he ever pushed you downstairs you said no and she said if he's ever done anything like that has he

ever abused you in any way and she said no it's like well you know that's fairly it seems reasonable to ask her about it you know yeah did they bring in any recent oh I don't know people because well me he was married to Vanessa par for many years and then he left her for Amber herd so I don't know if there was anyone recent they could have asked cuz I just look like that's like Kate Moss that was '90s wasn't it yeah yeah it was I also saw all of his relationships were in the '90s cuz then he was married for a long time the way this was I saw this on YouTube video and the way this was portrayed was that this was a mistake by the by Amber herd's lawyers where they played this clip of an interview with a police officer and they didn't stop the tape when they

meant to and it was this interview with the officer and it went like I said this is just what the YouTube video framed it as was that they continued the interview where the person said oh did you um did you give Amber herd one of the domestic abuse pamphlets and the officer says no I didn't and they said why didn't you give her a pamphlet and she said well because there was no evidence that she was a victim of domestic abuse and we only give them to victims of domestic abuse and then the law is like turn the tape off oh wow I think that might have been the YouTube's were playing down because that tape would have already been heard by both sides and the prosecutors and if they did stop the prosecutors would have

gone Hy and just play the next yeah and they're actually very careful when they are putting in evidence of like it's this Frame to this Frame and then they will say to the opposite side are you okay with just that exerpt or do you want the whole thing entered into evidence so there is a was good for them to hear them to hear that piece and well there's another one SE no further testimony from that witness like the [ __ ] are you doing there's one of Amber Heard there's a video of her testifying in the UK um about uh filing for divorce and and she was like you tried to call Johnny Depp like 20 times in a row on that day and she was like Yeah I wanted him to hear the we were getting divorced from me

rather than from TMZ who I'd already tipped off and then she literally pauses slaps her hand over her mouth cuz cuz she told TM and then quick yeah yeah and then just pretends like she was like fixing her hair but she just like yeah and uh yeah cuz she'd already told TMZ before she had told Johnny de that's what I mean she just how do you tell TMZ first well that's there the whole thing about that video of him you know there's that video of him slamming the cupboards or whatever it was sent to TMZ and the implication is that like she sent it to them like and the extended version she sets up the camera beforehand you can see her doing it and then at the end she gets the camera it's just like it's all just so it's gross they're both I I I think

you're probably terrible but certainly I think he won certainly in the court of public opinion he's one at this point yeah he'll he'll he'll get more movies than he did before when he was a fading star now he's now he's on the rise again everyone loves a comeback yeah yeah yeah but yeah I just don't know even if yeah he's not guilty or whatever it is he still sounds from the recordings and the way he acts talking about literally just about did he hit her seems like he didn't based on seems like he didn't seems he didn't it seems like if he did there'd be actual evidence and not just he I think there's emotional abuse on both sides that yeah un undisputable but that's I mean if you if you're talking about like the Baseline thing which is

that he's suing for defamation because she said he hit him and he lost work and financial benefit from the fact that she said that and he's now proven probably that there's there's very that he did then he's probably going to win and and the terrible thing about that she is she makes it harder for people who are victims yeah but yeah which is why yeah because yeah that she really does but but that's why I hope she is a [ __ ] I hope she is a liar because if she's not then she is an absolute victim of this system I mean she's done herself no favors but yeah that would suck well and the fact that she's been shown to lie like with the the the poop in the bed I just love it I don't know who it was was probably dog I've heard

so many lawyers say amber turd in this trial that I just never thought I'd hear that said out loud did you hear that clip about the the muffins have we talked about the muffin thing what a such a weird muffins yeah so there was like a a therapist that Amber herd went to and they had her on the stand and she can tell she's getting annoyed cuz the her lawyer starts talking about how you're not you know you're not supposed to reveal anything about your clients or whatever and the point of this is that she's trying to prove that this woman told her husband that she was seeing Amber herd and she goes oh can we talk about the muffins and the the therapist's like if we have to and and she said you told your husband Amber herd was coming in that day she's like

no I didn't and she said well you told Amber herd that your husband had got the muffins for her and she goes no I'll tell you this and then can we stop talking about the [ __ ] muffins once I finish this story I asked my husband to get the muffins I get muffins every time someone comes in I was busy I said can you pick up the muffins he picked up the muffins from the bakery he brought them I took them to the office Amber herd said she enjoyed the muffin I said you can thank my husband he picked those up this morning can we stop talking about the muffins now mhm and then and she was like I'm going to have to ask some more questions about the muffins I'm afraid [ __ ] hell wait so the implication is that she was like to a hobby like a dinner that night you know who came into

my office today Amber herd and he was like does she like muffins no yeah it was like no no I guess who's coming tomorrow Amber herd and he was like I'll get her some muffins she'll like I'll I'll get her some [ __ ] muffins cuz Amber herd's known for liking muffins [ __ ] know she loves muffins I know it was so you just is just getting so visibly annoyed like she's a professional [ __ ] woman she's like weop talking about [ __ ] muffins so ridiculous yeah let's stop talking about them let's talk about Ezra Miller oh God relating to the former arrest and it's just new details but evidently when he was being being arrested he became additionally irate because they went sir you need to calm down and um sir is not his preferred pronoun right right and

apparently he went utterly [ __ ] psycho and started yelling that he was going to um get them convicted on hate crimes for using the wrong pronoun I mean look pick your battles mate like I know right yeah well he's also come out and said that he's going to use footage that he took of the arrest um to make nft crypto art so [ __ ] off there's that if I was going to buy any nft and I I wouldn't it might be this one so so we can pretty much confirm he's career is over I just what are they going to do about Flash and to be clear yeah use people's preferred pronouns that's fine but if you're you know if you're a [ __ ] police officer and someone's being belligerent and potentially

dangerous like just don't stress about it too much this seems Seems ridiculous yeah it seems like um there's a hierarchy of um importance doesn't there right yeah you know yeah okay the guy misspoke actually didn't even misspeak he probably didn't even know right and we can we can argue about whether first or whatever how could you have known forget it he's just trying to arrest the guy or sorry she now I'm doing it he's trying to arrest Ezra Miller that's a hate crime yeah I know sorry sorry Luke I've committed trying to arrest them I can't believe in all the years of this podcast no one's committed a hate crime until right now it was you Matt it was you yeah no he's going down to sort of I've been watching a lot of sovereign citizens I saw something about today too

and I I instantly thought of you unfortunately ouch bir because because the because he's the only one person I know that constantly talks about and I saw something I was on on um uh stack overflows a programming website and I saw you know they have other uh ask question sites and one of them is like about legal things and there was one in the side by the just something about does Sovereign citizens have any legal basis for their beliefs and I was like ah so I clicked on it and had a quick scan do they basically the answer they don't they conflate legal terms with Biblical nonsense and and all this other stuff yeah they basically the black's dictionary which is uh it's a dictionary used by law basically understand legal terms it's not the law but they refer to

it and then they also talk about but they they're going away from Sovereign citizens now a new they now Moors or they American state citizens like and they're going out there making their own IDs now and it's just it's I don't understand why they think this stuff works because every single video you watch where people are going I wasn't I wasn't driving a car I was traveling you can't I don't need a driver's license or registration insurance if I'm just traveling it's only if I'm commercial that's a big thing for them because they misunderstood one thing but then all of the videos I've ever seen is they get arrested of course there's no cops going to go oh I'm sorry I didn't realize you

weren't driving this car sir on your way but there was there are so many people that are still trying going down this path I'm sort of like even with all the evidence where these people present their stupid arguments and then get arrested they're like oh one day one day we'll get that just goes to show no that's what I mean that that that's why I find it hard and I used to find it interesting to listen to flat earthers and and and these guys and I don't anymore because I I used to think that there was something I was missing and not not that I might be wrong but just that there was another point of view to be seen but the more I learn about these guys the more I realize there isn't another point of view it's just people who don't understand misunder or are

just contrary Bri nature and just have to be contrarian but it's a little bit like we don't have to talk about this too much because I know everyone I'm sure everybody's heard about going on in Texas this week unfortunately another there been another shooting in an elementary school [ __ ] horrible uh one of the worst ones and but people the the whole oh the solution is more guns like the [ __ ] are you talking saw I saw one Twitter thing where someone put up like how many school shootings have been in America this year and then some people defend it go well that that doesn't means like Sho sh that also includes suicides and just gang shootouts and stuff all like yeah it's it's still just all these other

countries have zero you have 288 that's a lot who cares whether it will stics once we solve the problem let's try and figure it out and later on you can argue about this [ __ ] like yeah and if we go too far we can wind it back but let's just stop but think they they think oh no this is just this it's a slippery slope you know if we who's they and here's the thing right this is what I don't understand this is what I don't understand at the Crux of this right if guns are legal why is shooting people illegal what is the point of a gun if you can't shoot someone so if shooting people is illegal guns should be illegal that's just I don't understand why you need a gun gun you can you can legally shoot someone in America if you if it's

for self they've come property if I give up my gun no one else is going to and then I'm just going to be the guy that gets shot I'm going to be the with no gun that's what I'm saying yeah I'm basically if I give up my gun I'm all I'm I'm giving up I'm putting myself at risk and no one else is going to do it or or you know or if he's got one why why shouldn't I have one like look I mean look that I mean that's not an entirely insane argument I mean I can understand like if someone if you if you rationalize the whole thing out and talk about it sensibly yeah like they basically say like the criminals aren't going to listen to the law they not allowed to have guns so they going to still have guns and it's s like yes unfortunately that will there is a

complicating factor which is this country has so many guns out there more the problem that's the problem is it's already gun so what you need to do is you need to take away the guns and then you need to have a zero tolerance policy on guns like you just need to accept the thing is though you take away the guns that you've you've you you've lost there it's not going to happen yeah but here's the other thing right this is what I don't understand and I know I know the president is not the king and he can't just wave his magic wand and make a if you look on Twitter you wouldn't know that for sure Dan people think that that's right but what I don't understand is why you need the support of the people to make something illegal that should clearly be illegal like if

everyone in America said we want to be able to rape would it be like well our hands are tied rap's legal now no some things are just illegal unfortunately because to change the the Constitution you need that's the problem ex 69th amendment that said you have the right to rape then people would be like sorry 69 I did that on purpose yeah no but that's that that is the problem is that it's you and it's the same problem as the Bible right okay yes this makes perfect sense for the people who lived in the desert 2,000 years ago it doesn't make sense to you now okay so don't take it literally same with the Constitution when America was just 13 [ __ ] States up in the [ __ ] Northeast and and there was a whole bunch of other problems going on and the

King of England was still trying to get his dick in there then yes these these things written down on this old parchment made sense they don't make sense now I'm with you I still like the people who are still saying it's a constitution you can't change contition It's s like but you're arguing about an amendment Second Amendment which is change to the Constitution yeah like how about if we say the Constitution is so great and can never be changed backal so lose your first am be amazing cuz I'm a foreigner still like I mean not in general I can talk in general about it and it's fine but I'm saying like to people who are who really want to get up you up you about it like people who are really passionate about this [ __ ] they're not

going to listen to they wouldn't listen to you no they're going to listen to anyone but I get I have an instant cancel in the I'm from Australia so [ __ ] off yeah what do you know about it yeah yeah but just I just don't you look at things and like people from other country go yeah we don't have shootings here and people come back oh yeah but you've got more stabbings so sort of like yeah but you can't stab 16 have any challenge accept a sorry Matt but you want to challenge that [ __ ] off but then also but then also people have come back and go cuz someone TR threw out a a number to say oh this many people in Australia get stabbed every day and it's sort of like I don't think you I think you made that figure up CU what you're saying is if that many

people get stabbed in Australia each year that means five out of every hundred people are stabbed in Australia every day I've uh I've never been stabbed in Australia and I was quite a long time I've never been stabbed you've been stabbed mhm you're not helping here Luke no no no I I wouldn't be surprised if any of us have been stabbed oh you haven't or you have but okay good I haven't but yeah not to be clear none of us have been stabbed but that means two of our friends have been I was going to say d you stabbed Dave with a pen so that's true are pens on the list is that is that are we're going to ban pens I guarantee you people arguing about this in America are going to put pens and put anything on the list that'll help them I've seen that argument maybe

someone could get stabbed To Kill a Mocking Bird better ban that book but that's the argument that people who Pro like not changing laws that's the argument they come back with is basically like Yeah well yeah people drive drunk so we just ban all cars no yeah it's like yeah the thing is though the this mentality of everyone needs a gun then if anyone's got one everyone needs to have one is the same mentality that they had in the cold war with the mutually assured destruction Russia has nukes we'd better have nukes too and we be have the exact same amount not even more just the same amount so that they know and we know that at any point we could kill each other it's like this whole thing oh the answer is the answer is giving the teachers guns like really

really yeah like you you really think that arm the teachers now for starters I'm thinking of the teachers at my school like can you imagine [ __ ] hell I mean I don't know and then like like I said you said take away the guns right that's that's right but but not only that even just apparently there's a bill in right that's been held up for 10 months cuz apparently this just this is just too much too much that you have to have a background check background check on any gun purchase no that's too far we've got to just sell them to anybody apparently what the [ __ ] like that's too much just check make just check to make sure not a [ __ ] psychopath no yeah it's it's it's for mental health and and for past convictions right yeah it's not just saying you're Jewish we don't want

Jews specific things just it's it's literally just yeah but I guess the problem is that they go a yeah but they'll just say no to usol yeah exactly they'll just start saying no to get the guns out of this out of our hands or whatever like [ __ ] off and can I just say that the the part the the the the the party or the people who are the most vocal about this being a problem are the same people who tried to take over the whole [ __ ] government like just the you know just a couple years ago if you recall it's like you guys tried to do it like yeah and people died yeah Matt if they do go down the path of trying to remove guns you can come stay with me for a little while so what can I bring my gun I assume you would have gotten one by then yes I like guns are you going to

get a little um like cute little gun fora to take to school of course I assume at this point you're home school yeah that's one of the terrible things like kids go to school with bullet proof backpacks [ __ ] me one of the things people were saying too I mean I and I'm like that's kind of irrelevant but the um because we've had the co lockdowns and everything like they like oh how did he even get in there and like you know they oh they shouldn't have let him in they should have just yeah exactly yeah they should have just said no you're not coming in mate and he would have been all right no worries put a mask on a police officer or there was a police officer or something outside who was armed they had the police so there was already this we don't have to talk about it's [ __ ]

horrible so the police were all outside and they said they wouldn't let anybody in and they wouldn't go in they said it's too dangerous so he was in there for about an hour doing oh but I'm not even talking about when he went in like there was already an armed police offic he just yeah and and he just this this before first enter the enter the first time before any of this started that's how this all started called cops and but then got to the school and there was someone there who was armed and he just shot them so like having a gun there didn't stop did you watch that video I sent you the the the Jordan no cuz it's not available in Australia oh is that true and I didn't get and I didn't get around to setting up my VPN to watch it

yeah well it's it's you know Trev you know Trev Jord cler is on the Trevor show he does this whole thing where he's like I'm going to prove that the the answer is a good guy with a gun and he goes to Florida to get his gun license he does a three-page test gets his concealed carry license cuz that's what do I did watch that you SE yeah and then he goes and does that training course where they teach you how to react in a in a situation like that and he just gets shot so well a a person who responsibly with their guns like in their house you've got it locked up it's [ __ ] useless to you but that's the thing at point but but but but surely surely I mean this this kid was what 18 years old right or 17 something like I'm assuming he I'm

assuming he didn't buy the gun I'm assuming it was his dad's gun he brought no he brought them as legal really yep he brought you can and apparently but why why can you exactly well because why it doesn't make any sense I agree can I buy a rocket launch like where where do you draw the line where so where quite why cuz that' be [Laughter] dangerous you can't have no there is he can't have anything automatic but this shows why having gun laws W stop converted semi-automatic one to a fully automatic like but also a semi-automatic they fire very quickly still and actually for why is anyone I never in my whole sem automatic is better than an automatic I've never been in a situation where I was like [ __ ] I wish I had a gun

now I I'm glad I haven't been no but like I can't imagine in my country let's say right I got one cuz I I mean I could right and then someone breaks into my house am I going to shoot somebody I'm probably not I'll be honest I might as well not have one to be honest I'm not going to shoot somebody get by the time you get to your gun safe get it out load it but but but beyond all that I've got to shoot somebody it's too late you don't want to shoot anyone in fact the best thing to do if someone's [ __ ] broken in and wants to [ __ ] steal your [ __ ] jewelry is to just lay on the floor let them take and then [ __ ] call the police when they're gone like everyone in every country in the world and then when that [ __ ] crack addict puts it

in a [ __ ] Hawk Shop you'll get it back 3 weeks later that's like during that um good go with the gun video they talk about one of the guys who's doing the training talks about the fact that it's um I think something like 3% of of of of incidents are solved by some good guy with a gun most of the time if the incident is resolved it's by uh one of the victims on site who doesn't have a gun just talking the guy out of it because yeah yeah turns out you don't have to [ __ ] shoot anybody sometimes I don't want to sound like I'm being factious but surely more guns means more shootings and less guns would mean less shootings I mean that's just how my idiot brain I mean I would think so but again see this is the problem it's

there's like a cultural thing and I don't like I said I just can't get there like I've heard the arguments and I just can't get there but these but people are serious right and they think it's genuinely MH like that that what you they think what you're suggesting is incorrect for some reason and I just can't get there and I don't know whether that's cuz I I didn't grow up here or or in but I know I know people don't think the same either it's just there's something missing I guess it's the same as like if you go to the Middle East and somebody's like no M you just wouldn't understand but women can't [ __ ] show their hair or drive a car they just shouldn't no but I can no but I can if I like I I I know why right it's cuz they they have certain religious beliefs

right and it's like I mean but but here I just don't even know why they think that like like if you yeah where does it come from if someone says oh you know like well it's because we follow Sharia law and I look into it and I go oh okay I mean I get it I guess whereas here I don't even get it like yeah look the only thing I think they can change is the wording in it says a real reg well regulated um militia that's part of they think they might have to take who's regulating it that yeah but that's where that's I think if they went down that path like if you want to own a gun you have to be part of the militia and you have to well but there shouldn't be a militia right we don't want a militia either we definitely don't want a

militia we don't we definitely don't want a private Army I think it comes from the fact they already sort of have like you said there based on the fact that the king of England at one point needed to be overthrown so they've just got this Eng ain't coming back for you I'm sorry you're not the bell of the anymore pisses us off or or becomes Ser we need to be able to do something about and good luck with that if if the American Army go on the Army um well Air Force they they've got bigger guns it's more complicated and then they oh yeah but we have to be people on the on in the Army and in the in the military that would turn against it's like have any I don't know yeah but yeah people think America is greated country

but the these talks about like take and the government everything this is what happens in third world countries yeah yeah and you got to over happed in America it happened in America where it was easier to fight a real army because you could get the same weapons and use the same tactics as a real army and you could steal barrels of gunpowder etc etc you can't do that now no like it doesn't work like they Rock up with their tank oh [ __ ] hell something more fun listen if you want to ride in honestly de say if we have any listeners who have an opinion on this that I mean don't bother paring back you know the kind of Lefty [ __ ] that we all think if you if honestly if you're a second amendment fan let me know why and kind of explain if we if we're wrong about something please like

genuinely I'm genu the where it's hard for us to understand is we we come from Australia where it's not you can still if I wanted to go get a hand gun license I could could own the problem is right you say that you say that and I've seen this on Twitter right people say oh we don't have this problem in Australia and then they go yeah and look what happened to you all during Co because they think you were [ __ ] oppressed thinked no but they think that's true we were safe what we were safe you are safe against your will like okay so but here's the thing no no no you're right but this is what scares people think you were [ __ ] we had an election just now right yes and there who were against election that's yeah yeah that's right but we had there's there's one there's

one word that I'm very wary of on campaign posters and it's a good word it's just in this context I don't trust it the word is freedom right if I if I I won't vote for any party who's trying to give me freedom in that's very unamerican but that but what what is this right the reason we have a government is because you give up certain rights order to have certain privileges rights and privileges are the opposite of one another so okay I I want to give up the right to go around and murdering everyone but I get the privilege of being able to walk down the street without getting murdered it's it's a tradeoff right sure it sounds pretty good I mean it's the same it's the same with anything okay I will give a certain amount of my personal power to

a government so that I don't have to be involved in every decision that's being made I will elect a represent so that so that literally the government don't have to come to me and go can we build a road from Paramount yeah just [ __ ] go ask Al easy just ask him he's got my the reason you have a government I think the people that we're talking about though don't want that they want they'll like no let us just figure it out [ __ ] off government don't get get don't Americans are just all Libertarians they just not all of them that's the thing though not clearly not all of them right because because you know we're so but of them it's get but I also find quite scary in America I find it very strange even with what happened a couple years

ago when Trump was sort of voted out and Biden was in that was very close yeah like which it's to me that's scary that nearly half the country is thinking that way yeah and a lot of it is context of some sort that I'm cuz I don't get it either but I mean there there must be a reason for and like i' I have friends who vote Republican um and they're very sensible and I know you know some of them I you've talked about and I understand their reasons and I disagree but you know that's fine but there are but like the people I'm talking about were not like Trump worshippers or anything like that no but here's the thing but there are people who are like like yeah but I know I know what you're saying M because I know people here who don't vote on the left they vote on the

right but it's because they're more concerned about the economy and stuff like that and I get yeah and some of the other stuff that we don't like is an unfortunate consequence of the fact that that they have to what I don't understand what I don't understand in America is that Trump and the Republicans seem at odds to me Trump does not seem like you he stands for the Republic because and and and the Republicans seem to have the very very top minority and the very very bottom minority and then everyone else in the middle is this kind of Center left but I I I don't understand how one party can represent the rich Elite and people who live in trailer parks you

know what I mean I I just don't understand why they relate to that particular party I over the ones that are more socialist and the the way I've had it explained to me is that the the Republicans see themselves as kind of status quo they don't want to upset the cart they'll just keep things the way they are whereas right the left want to change everything they always about change exactly okay that's actually that that is a really succinct way I understand that and that's the scary word change well in some cases fine the way it is sure like some of it and then I mean we can talk about Ricky ja if you want because uh you know some of that stuff scares people okay well that is that is a good that is

a good segue actually and I would like to to to discuss that although why don't we move that into the Afterparty do you to something fun before we go though cuz I know Luke's a bit down about I do I really do we got a bit we got a bit heavy this episode I apologize super heavy what do you want to talk about Luke I want to talk about Star Wars we talk about Star Wars I like Star Wars Dan doesn't what can we talk about Star Wars yeah but Luke's had to talk about something he doesn't like for 20 minutes so suck it up true you're going to like Ander Ander Ander whatever his name is you're going to like that there is another I'm not sure he's telling me I'm going to like it there is a movie or television show coming at that sort of it sounds like it's going to be a bit

like Caravan courage or an Ewok movie The Skeleton Crew so it's about a group of young kids who get lost and have to sort of make their way home in the which I think just going to be a fun family show saw poster for this yesterday I haven't heard beyond that I'm not sure if it's just show or a movie but yeah it's called Skeleton Crew so it's I'm sort of I don't think I'm the target audience for that but I think I'm going to enjoy that yeah it definitely does I've got some bad news for you though Luke um Disney have officially come out this week and said that Ryan Johnson Trilogy on hold no [ __ ] oh it's official now is it mhm oh

[ __ ] know cuz cuz what this is the first time that Dy have come out and confirmed it since the original yes and they've not even said clearly [ __ ] is they've just said it's it's not our priority like at the moment Ryan's been very busy so uh yeah is he that's why he's he's made knives out and he's thinking about another Knives Out M well no knes out 2 is already out and I think he's also is out 2 out or it's going to be soon but I'm not sure if it's out or very soon but then also evidently he's also going to be making knives out three and four so this is another like I can tell every story through knives out now yeah your Knives Out uh this is just you just reminded me of this and this is this is a stupid thing uh you know I'm I'm I'm kind of a fan of um what's her

name I can't name you know who I'm going to say what's her name I know you mean anad damus yes YouTube has [ __ ] figured that out somehow and every time I open YouTube then the video at the very top left right which I've already watched right and it knows I have it's got little red bar on it is a clip of her doing green screen for a sequence in played run of 2049 where she does like a little dance yeah I've seen that it's it's very cute it's very cute YouTube is like forcing it on me now like they're like you like do you just Des every time you load up YouTube is you go to that you watched I watch every time YouTube have said to you Matt there are no new clips of Ana deas ex watch this again yeah if you must for the 16th time but I it's it every time I I'm going to do it right

now I'm going to open YouTube and I'm going to see is that clip there and look I'm jerking off I'm jerking off right now and it knows YouTube knows okay it's not there right now so all right fine but it'll be back but anyway it just uh just reminded me of that just cuz like today I opened it before this to watch um some of the Star Wars stuff and I was like [ __ ] there she is again click yeah here I am lubing my hand up again it's disgusting yeah so yeah I'm just confirming it Netflix has yeah there's there's definitely going to be a Knives Out Three okay Netflix has already sort I haven't watched Knives Out is it good um you know it's not something we went to the movies it's not a bad movie but

it's not go to the movies to see I don't think put it this way Matt Matt it's the kind of movie you like but this isn't a good one oh really it's got an Dam in it though yeah yeah and if you want to look at her it's perfectly fine I just do that on YouTube she's in a maid's outfit she's in a little Maid um yeah she's a maid sounds good PL sounds good yeah well you want to just watch her cleaning up super cut I can watch just that just her scenes I'm positive there is man I'm positive there is I mean if I was going to watch any mystery I'm actually a bit more excited about um the next Pirro which has been out and I haven't had a chance to watch death on the Nile I'll watch that I liked death on a train

not for me br oh did you hear that um Microsoft turned down Marvel into for making Marvel games really so Mar Marvel actually came to Microsoft when they sort of were trying to get away from EA or Sony and went hey Microsoft you want to make some exclusive games they said no Bill Gates said I'm bus bu he working on this virus and that's why Spider-Man which is evidently a very good game is a Sony exclusive where it could have been an [Music] Xbox cuz I really want to play the Spider-Man game but I can't you know what we should do collectively we should buy one PS5 right can you between us between us we'll buy Star Wars I mean we'll buy

Spider-Man we'll buy last of us we'll buy Uncharted and then we'll just pass it round okay I haven't but I believe cuz I I I have uh the Nvidia cloud gaming thing right and I was looking to see if um what's that Horizon whatever was on there yeah uh and then somebody said apparently there is a Playstation cloud gaming thing so just I haven't looked into it any further but maybe that's something we could put a pin it is it's different though yeah maybe we could split that or something M play some uh I'm not going to play it there's no achievements fair enough called you Bluff no was it a bluff I was very up I want to play it I just never will look let's go over to the Afterparty um all

right we can talk about Ricky ja and I can also tell you about the time my mom met Michael schoer oh I do want to hear about that your mom met Michael shoe marker I do want to hear about that I do want to get in my weekly F1 discussion all right let's go there now so if you want want to come listen to us on the Afterparty which can we please be a bit lighter we've been very heavy and dark this episode and I don't like it and we've made ourselves angry we don't like talking about this either no I know in fact I said we don't have to talk about this for too long and then we talked about it for 20 [ __ ] minutes 40 minutes that's my fault but no it isn't it isn't we've all got very strong opinions it's just all the same opinion so like op if you have

similar opinions go to patreon.com nerdgasm and give us money we can keep talking about this unfortunately we're doing the same thing that the other people do and we're in our own Echo chamber I would love someone to come on and rationally tell me why they should be allowed to kill kids at schools in America I invite you I promise you that's not their [Laughter] perspective arm the children that's all for this week thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show if you enjoyed it then please subscribe and items to receive episodes automatically we'll see you next time