Scatological Warfare: Depp v. Heard Courtroom Scandal & Murder Hornets

[Music] welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All Things nerdy this might be a silly question but I think it needs to be asked when did 60 frames per second stop being like a Target and it turned to 120 frames a second cuz that feels like what the new thing is everything's 120 frames I think it might have been around the time that they decided that 8K video was what people wanted as well yeah are you talking video games or you talking film I'm talking video games cuz the new Halo infinite is meant to be like 120 frames per second and um oh that's because the

that's because the graphics are garbage so it's easy to get up to that many frames a second it's funny when watching the Xbox thing I did notice that the video wasn't the greatest the trees all the mountains just sort of disappeared and then came back type of thing and really that's what you going to sell people of were you tripping were you tripping on LSD at that time no they'll just try like show off like the distance and look at the mountains in the background and then the clouds or something or trees just sort of popped in and out of existence look at them real quickly quickly quickly before they disappear yeah they've come out and said like don't worry about that it's still a work in program and that was the monkeyy decided to show

everyone and you know what the internet's like I have no idea at what point anyone decided that any consumer for any media cares about frame rate I remember when this came out a few years ago when Peter Jackson wanted 120 frames for his uh Hobbit movie The Hobbit it's like who whoa who no one no one wants this that was really jarring could could you braid actually even see it I tell you the only I'm I'm convinced that it is better if you're going to watch something in 3D I don't like watching things in 3D so I don't actually care but 100% mm if you're watching a movie in 3D if it's 120 frames it stops that ticking feeling I get in my eyes when the camera moves too fast yeah yeah exactly like I feel like

I can't track it like at the normal speed and it does look better cuz I'm going to be honest I'm okay with 30 frames yeah well it looks like a movie 2 Australia movies movies look like movies like if if you increase this frame rate they don't look like movies anymore they look like TV just because that's what your brain's used to I just have a feeling we're going to see a lot more of 120 frames being the new big thing and I just I don't care and the funny thing is TV only seems like it's higher cuz TV is still 30 frames or 25 frames in in pal regions it's just that they're interlaced so you get every frame twice so it's it's not even 60 frames it just seems like it is so that's doubly the reason why we shouldn't be emulating that now with video games and

film this monitor it does 120 hertz which is 120 frames if the computer can do it and I do it like I've done tests where I I can't play all games in 120 frames but if if there's a game that I can play 120 and I'm playing it for a bit and then I switch it back to something lower like 60 I'm like oh God I'm like oh God like 60 wow that's what I'm saying yeah like uh Divinity original sin I by default it uh it goes into like a slightly lower res and then 120 frames and it looks great and then I was like I bet I could Max the res if I put the frame rate down and I did it and I was like like it jumps so would you prefer but but is that is that your priority

resolution be damned I want this to have no motion I never I wouldn't I wouldn't have said that no but it in this case it actually is because in Divinity you you kind of like Pan the camera around and stuff like that and then the the the jitteriness that I honestly would never have [ __ ] noticed if they hadn't shown me what I was missing like now I can't I guess PRI if you've played it with what feels like absolutely no lag then going back to a slower frame rate must just feel like your controls aren't as sensitive well even my desktop right now everything is in 120 and and the way the mouse cursor moves if I adjust it cuz like I I've done little tests it looks weird to me when I turn it off now which is ridiculous cuz my work laptop is not 120 frames and I don't notice it

on that it's only it's literally just this environment now I've gotten used to it it's so weird I have no idea it's just whatever my monitor computer and Xbox aside it's going to be in that's what it is yeah I don't play around with things well I hooked up my Xbox to this TV and it looked like garbage this uh monitor that's why I can't use my Xbox One on this monitor because it doesn't like the the Xbox is 1080p Max because it's one of the original ones yes cuz you you yeah on this screen it does not look good it's all blurry and weird which is I would never would have thought when 1080p came out I was like this is as good as it's going to need to be ever so many pixels I do have a 4k monitor now and I think that's fine and that's all I need I think I might buy

like another 4k monitor but I don't see I'm not getting an 8K I just yeah but there a lot of money we always said that back in the day you will eventually yeah and the Xbox series XX comes out yeah I'll just refer you back to when you were perfectly satisfied with a 640x 480 14 inet my CRT that used to click when you change resolution don't you remember my um my 1080i widescreen CRT that I certainly do the one that got lugged up three flights almost crushed us to death this must have been that like one month in between the phasing out of 43 TVs and the introduction of flat panel TVs where people worked out they wanted WID screen but they hadn't worked out how to not have a picture tube yet but also the LCDs didn't look as good yet well they

weren't LCDs they were plasma still yeah that's true cuz remember those that Peri where was plasmas and people were going out and getting like loans for $10,000 to get a plasma television and more this this this TV of mine looked beautiful it but it it weighed like honestly I think like 100 like over 100 kilograms I think it was like 120 kilograms oh God it was [ __ ] monster thi it was as thick as it was wide it broke the stand I put had it on for a long time I had to take it off the stand cuz the the stand was starting to like Buckle the thing with CRT is that it was very very kind to lower resolution content that's why I loved about it because you could hook up uh it was the Xbox 360 at the time and it and it that looked gorgeous but then you

could also hook up a Nintendo Entertainment System and that looked normal whereas and even DVD cuz this was before Blu-ray but DVD would have sharp on that you know yeah whereas now it looks garbage which is so strange I remember yeah DVD when it first came out again again how could it get better than this yeah why do we we don't need better yeah I I do you reckon they had this conversation when they [ __ ] put sound on film and then like color on a film George Lucas was famously against recolor or not recoloring against colorizing all the old films cuz it would mess with the Artistic integrity George Lucas said that mind you he's only recolored his own films yeah fair enough yeah okay yeah hey Matt remind me we were watching

behind the scenes of aliens [ __ ] 10 years ago and they said something about the of film stock they used and regretting having used it do you remember the details of that I know yeah he used some I want to say like silver based paint paint film and so it degraded in a way that made it look really [ __ ] weird which is why there was a whole it was an expensive thing to to do the 4K uh transfer of it right uh cuz he chose it's like literally like like two films ever got shot on this really fancy film that did not age well did not live up to the hype yeah aliens I'm sure it would have been sold as this is the thing that's going to last forever

and I have no idea but anyway yeah no I do remember that cuz I was watching I was watching the Blu-ray version the other the other week and was just thinking how good it looked but then remembered that there was something about yeah they took a lot of time and money to to to fix it I think right well they fixed it yeah well I mean that for that film worth it I guess they'll get enough sales of the Blu-ray uh yeah well I'll definitely buy it one way or another um pretty much from now into Infinity as uh I own it on iTunes I believe how long is that going to last you if there's new yeah I own it on Xbox I stopped worrying about that I used to worry about that a lot and I got annoyed

I'm sure we've had conversations on this show about it about me getting annoyed about how they making me re everything I think I'm just accepted it now yeah well I I don't think it happens as much anymore well also I don't I think we don't we don't rewatch old movies as much as we used to no but before it was you had you had VHS then you had the DVD and then you had the like there's more versions of that and then you had Blu-Ray now it's just there a digital version and if you probably go and have look at it it might have new special features that you didn't even know about now yeah also I tend not to collect them now that was a thing there was a very big I mean amongst our group in particular I assume everybody did this

you had a DVD collection yeah which was not a thing with VHS which is why it was always funny that they complained oh oh you know Pires eating into DVD sales like we didn't even have [ __ ] DVD sales two years ago yeah they've complained about piracy for a long time and didn't yeah I I'm saying it's right I'm just saying that like this is not like oh we've always had DVD sales and that's never been as big IND survived made us think it was yeah exactly right cuz you're right Matt I mean like I had a couple of VHS I mean I had a lot of VHS tapes but it was [ __ ] I taped off the Telly like I wasn't going out there and buying things I had I had with the wrong film written on them because you taped over everything and then forgot yeah that's

right this is not Superman 2 this is some softcore porn film I take offs [ __ ] Diary of a cheerleader how many copies do I need of this but you're right but like Not only was DVD important to have every film because if I wanted to watch [ __ ] Underworld part two yeah I need I did I I needed it instantly but also if you came over my house I needed you to know that I liked [ __ ] Underworld part two is myself the good thing about the DD over the VHS so there was no fast forwarding to get past the trailers you could just hit play and it was there and it was always a good quality like it didn't degrade over the amount of times that you watched it it just degraded

when you didn't put it away and it got scratched to the [ __ ] yeah and it degraded once Blu-ray came out and you watched them back going Oh I thought these were perfect they're really not yeah the the bonus features too like I watched a lot of movies with the director's commentary which was another bonus for it I mean cuz that was just marketing that was just here's the reason you should buy a disc instead of renting a tape in some cases they still have it on like iTunes but in a lot of cases you're right it's just missing now which is annoying um that's why there were actually websites where you can download the old director's commentaries that they've abandoned now and I saw there's an interesting case the other day I saw a

video this guy on the internet being angry about evil dead right one of one of our favorite films I think all all of us enjoy that film and the DVD version of it is [ __ ] amazing cuz it's got two commentaries exactly and Bruce cble won an award for that commentary because it was hilarious because they point out all the mistakes and they make fun of everything and it's great because um Talbert is is so serious on his commentary and then uh and then Bruce Campbell's like okay well hopefully you listen to that now now hear the truth about what actually happened yeah U there he is standing in the bushes over there you can see stoned during the filming of this scene yeah that's right so they point out all the mistakes and they make and he makes fun of it uh the

new releases of Evil Dead they've gone back and fixed all the mistakes no so the commentary makes no sense anymore so they've just removed it so if you buy see I there's such thing as too perfect on Blu-ray you don't have any of that cool [ __ ] I like it when they do that though but like here's this version like they put on the different versions so you can still go back and watch yeah sometimes when they make improvements they're not actually for the worst sometimes who do they think watched Evil Dead and was like I wish it wasn't so janky like that's the [ __ ] point of it exactly a a film like evil dead it's meant to look hookie you're meant to know that that full moon was not behind the cabin every time they pointed the camera at it I think the appeal of Evil

Dead was that these kids made that [ __ ] movie with no money and the fact that you can see flaws enhances that because it's like I could do this the appe yes exactly the appeal was they made it and you could too if you had a friends and like smoothed it over and it's like well that's not what it is there is a smooth version of uh Evil Dead it's called The Evil Dead remake watch that I quite like that yeah I do as well it was great rain [ __ ] blood yes [ __ ] hell that was a lot of blood what a movie I wonder watch that again might do that tomorrow saw that at the dendi we did we we saw it together didn't we yeah yeah I couldn't actually that's the first time I've cuz Australia you know kind of didn't show a lot of horror movies in theaters cuz I

don't know we didn't have a go and see them we had a different rating system and so a lot basically if if a movie was a little too intense they just wouldn't show it anywhere they just just wouldn't do it but they're dendy they don't give a [ __ ] dendy has no rules so you know in Singapore um Cinemas can't play irrated films and actually doesn't surprise me there's a couple of independent Cinemas that are that are immune to that so they can play filming like but they have to play the cut versions yeah so they can play the film but they have to remove whatever it was that gave it the R rating but the thing so it defeats the point going exactly the thing I'm looking forward to about coming to act back to Australia the most is rock music

on the radio because here huh the radio is run by the government and they only play nice music yeah right uh get ready for Triple J where there's a lot of swearing now before remember when they used to give like warnings triple [ __ ] J the warnings are sort of gone now but when the last time I was in the last time I was in Australia just for a holiday visiting family and whatnot I noticed that trip M which was the rock station is now broken up into triem classic rock Aussie rock hard rock rock you can choose amazing I pretend I'm young and I listen to Triple J still but I'm starting to get to the point

where they'll have like people interviewing or doing news reports and I don't agree with them anymore I think I've gotten old and I go you're coming out of that very unfair against that you're interviewing especially Triple J because they have a very specific agenda with their yes politics I remember I I never listened to the radio until uh get this was on um Triple M and then I I always used to listen to Triple M and when they cancel get this uh Greg Fleet the comedian was on there and he this is not in the podcast releas of of that episode but he they were just chatting and CG Fleet said something about and unfortunately

the show's been cancelled and Craig Fleet said well that just goes to show triple em a bunch of [ __ ] and then it was and then it was like like [ __ ] ACDC just started playing and then he was not there when they got back from the ad break that's funny and and the reason that is funny is because he is correct Triple M cancel get this because it was side and now yeah I know marsland that's a b a week enough of that um can you cheer me up Matt by giving me a bit of an update about what the [ __ ] Amber herd is doing this week apparently she's [ __ ] the bed

literally there's an article oh so did you guys did we talk about this [ __ ] about oh God this is literally bit confusing honestly after this I don't know where this Amber Her Johnny Depp story can go that I'll want to even hear about it than I do not want to know this much deta about criticizing where each other has defecated around the house and then but it started it started right so they're like putting up she's like in court and she's like here's a photo this is his [ __ ] breakfast and it's like a glass of scotch and three lines of cocaine and then here's a photo of him after his breakfast and then she they putting up in court photos of him [ __ ] passed out on the floor in his underwear and it's like oh my God what

is this yeah and so that's that's the court Johnny Depp living his best life so apparently that's that's what he does most days yeah which is [ __ ] depressing after he's drunk $25,000 worth of wine and then there was a uh his team showed some video of her sister talking about how Amber herd beat the [ __ ] out of her and then the and then they're like if you look at the date stamp this is an occasion where the sister said that Johnny Depp had hit and it's just like oh [ __ ] me this is so gross yeah and yet here I am reading it and now they're uh yes now they're uh apparently discussing um Johnny Depp tried to write Amber herd's name on the floor in Piss uh in response to an argument now I don't know what the argument was about but I have never been

so angry at a partner that I've been like you know what and it wasn't just that he decided to piss on the floor to piss her off he was like I'm writing your name in it bit [ __ ] hell and then uh and then apparently she took a in quotes Whopper poop on the couple's bed yeah I love that she goes you wrote my name in piss and he was like you shot in our bed you [ __ ] the bed you took a big [ __ ] on the bed what the [ __ ] is going on I'm just glad I don't live in this house Depp claims that herd or one of her friends left the feces in the bed herd claims it was one of the dogs like what is this court

case but is he say like that was way too big to be one of those dogs they have big dogs cuz their dogs are pretty small no no no no they have big dogs don't they no pistol and they got little ones yeah Charlie's bigger than really disappoints me that you know the names of their [ __ ] dogs but he smuggled him into Australia they got in trouble yep I I didn't watch I didn't watch that but I did watch um Natalie from Community Channel doing her parody of that where she just took the exact video of them uh apologizing and I'm doing the air quotes because it was a really forced and uninc apology and pretended like she was their speech writer and had actually prompted them to say all this ridiculous stuff it was very much sorry we got busted M yeah we're leaving and after

they did a big [ __ ] on the bed a big [ __ ] on Australia Johnny Depp texted his friend my wife has left a whopp a poo on my bed I'm calling her Amber turd that's a Johnny de texted his friend and then some guy clean up the house so this is after Amber Hood said he pissed her name on the floor they called to testify the cleaner who said it took 12 hours to clean the house but he was quite sure there was no urine there I did not see any signs of urine and I did not smell it as I would have done if someone had urinated around the house what is this no this is a man this is a man who never ever thought he'd have to give expert testimony in a court case and now he is gone I'm going to take this so [ __ ]

seriously guys I I think we need to put this to bed I think we need to report on this no further we keep saying that but then it just gets so much like it's funny but it's also it's not funny like God I don't need to know this much about Johnny Depp's life also I don't want to know this about Johnny Depp yeah I also find it weird that some of the stuff that's coming up that's in the case which I find like has sort of nothing to do with the case yeah I know well other than all this scatological info that we're finding out it's just it's just like let's just [ __ ] embarrass each other in public apparently they've got a lot to be embarrassed about we just remember when we were young and we thought Johnny Deb was so

cool and now I'm like oh God Johnny what is this yeah I thought he was the coolest yeah I think it's one of the things that he probably was at some stage but then he starts to believe his own hype and you get to a stage where no one tells you no I think yeah he's just so rich and famous that his life is just like it's it's like that whole saying where like if a lion could speak English you still wouldn't understand each other like Johnny Depp's life is just not my life he does not live on the same Planet as me exactly oh and the other thing that I thought was really sad is that apparently the his his side is trying to prove that Amber herd has been talking to his old managers who stole all his money and that a lot of this was an attempt to discredit him so that they

couldn't the case against them would yeah be in their favor because they could prove that he was you know like a drunk idiot and then his managers could get away with all the money they pinched cuz that is a thing he did lose a lot of money didn't he he did but that's so so sad that it's just like and he's always admitted he was a drunk idiot yes I mean when him and Winona split she she said she left him because of his [ __ ] drinking habits and to prove that she was incorrect he changed the tattoo that said wiona forever to wo forever so you know I mean this is not a guy with I can see Luke doing something like that this is the funny thing like when you start talking about that I'm not

thinking like that's a silly tattoo I start thinking about what I want to get tattooed next well you could change your tattoos yeah I need another tattoo but the people I was looking to get mine done they're in Melbourne and I'm not going [ __ ] apparently yeah they've gone into like disaster mode right super lockdown now 800m curfew and oh wow that's really okay well I mean CO's really done a number on on Victoria that's for sure um but as we were discussing earlier Matt it's like the USA are determined to prove that Co is nowhere near the worst of the troubles yeah it turns out if you just uh if there's a pandemic you can just pretend there isn't one yeah and and everyone's just willing everyone's just up for that just it's just yeah I I think if I was in America right now

I wouldn't know whether to be more scared of all the people refusing to take precautions against Co all the murder Hornets that are apparently around now what the [ __ ] is a murder Hornet I I'm surprised we didn't talk about this I've been the murder hornets have been around for a while there was a warning back I'm serious there's a warning months ago they said there's a concern that these these are like these giant hornets from Asia somewhere I'm not sure exactly oh don't sorry don't blame us okay no no no somebody they're always from somewhere else aren't they they America I remember when those Africanized bees remember the Africanized bees Matt it was before you were there but there was like bees from Africa oh yeah got to be from the third

world that's that's how you get people scared of them yeah well I mean we'll get to the other stuff that Asia's doing with Tik Tok I guess later on in the show but yeah yeah yeah um i' I've added the photo of the what I was talking about before we started recording of Niagara Falls oh oh oh yeah so I see what you mean the Canadian one also I do like how the Canadian uh the Canadians are wearing red and the Americans wearing blue I do love it that there's just you know one River two countries and just so different yeah it reminds me it reminds me of a I mentioned a book a couple of weeks ago on this podcast um the last days of New Paris and I've become quite enamored with the writings of China maval who's the author of that book and

I just finished one called the city and the city which is about these it's well it's about a murder it's about a woman who's murdered in a city that occupies the exact same geometry as another city I.E there are two cities that occupy the same space but they have different laws and they're at war with each other so okay if you're in this city you're only allowed to see other things that are in your city you're not allowed to see things from the other city and it's a crime it's called breach if you make eye contact with someone who's actually not meant to be in your city you get arrested interesting okay yeah and it's great and this reminds me this reminds me of that so what the picture is you could look at the the the Canadian one has like four people on it mhm and then you

look at the American one and it's just full of people yeah can you get Co when you're on a boat Luke maybe you can't no no maybe you can't get it it stops on weekends if you're on holidays if you're surrounded by water get it yeah or if you're at the hardware store I think as well yeah and we can't blame America for that can we oh there was there was someone here who was complaining about wearing a mask and they for some reason they did a TV interview with her but the reason for it was she actually posted before about wearing a mask how it's good her reason for it not wearing mask now was because she was being told she had to wear one yeah yeah I mean that's the only reason right must be the only Reon I'll do it but I won't do it if you tell me to do it yeah yeah it's the

toddler [ __ ] argument yeah I read I I saw a great thing the other day they're like if people still don't understand why masks are essential here's an analogy if everyone's going around pissing on each each other right and you're both Johny and you're both naked if you're standing in front of a guy and you're both naked and he's pissing you're going to get piss all over you if you're wearing pants you'll get some piss on your pants and some piss on you if you're both wearing pants he's just pissing himself mhm wear masks people it only works if we all do it it's not a big deal I don't understand yeah there's this there is this thing here where it's like a control thing and then people get funny

about it I mean if the government want to control you there's better ways to do it than just say I don't want to see your lips frankly I just don't want to see them but also the Earth's flat so that too have you seen that uh that video of Carl Sean that's been um resurf suring in the last couple of weeks of been proving with a piece of cardboard that the Earth is not flat Luke have you seen that no I haven't seen that one it's Carl s and it's from the original uh Cosmos series that he did back in the 70s and um basically he's quoting a um I think it's an ancient Greek scientist who wanted to know why at the same time of day in two different places the sun can make different shadows I.E Long Shadows in one place and short shadows

in another place and carlan were like well basically it can't unless and he's got this piece of cardboard with two Nails on it and he's outside and they've both got the exact same Shadow right cuz it's just a piece of cardboard and then he just bends it and one of the Shadows just elongates and the other one does the opposite he's like there you go the Earth isn't flat I was watching I was watching a YouTube video recently about and it's a flat earther and he's playing around with um those things that fly that take pictures um Dr drones what drones he's got a drone and he sort of proves that the Earth is round in the video because he Tak a video of the sun setting the sun sets so he goes higher and then you can see the sun again and it sets again and it's all like are you [ __ ]

[ __ ] like it's just what are you trying to prove yeah but he's trying to prove that he was trying to show that oh this CU of the stars move the way they move that the Earth is flat and it's just yeah it's there's just no arguing with these people no you don't but here's the thing you don't even need the Stars to prove that the Earth is not flat he he did it in his own video trying to prove the Earth is flat he proved that it's not that's the thing and honestly I used to think these guys were taking the pier but now I'm not so sure if if you really believe that the world that the world is flat you also have to believe that someone is trying to convince you that it's when it's not and that's an argument I can't even have with you

quite frankly because that's on a whole other level of naive that I just don't know even how to engage on and that's the thing I'm not actually watching Flat Earth videos I'm watching people on the internet talking about Flat Earth videos so I like uh there's a few you're constantly watching creaky creaky Blinder um baly cats they're all these people who go out and they find these names here's sorry to tell you street names of drugs sold in the western suburbs of Sydney you got any they they they show the videos but then they go and this is why it's not true and when you if all you're watching are the people telling you that the Earth is flat it's very easy and I can understand why people start to believe it cuz you get into this Echo chamber I love that

the burden of proof is on us now like we have to just prove it all over again that that's the thing people complain about the YouTube algorithm because it's like oh you're interested in videos that tell you that hor [ __ ] here's 50,000 of them and then you're like well look all these videos say the same thing it must be true that's all well and good if you're only getting your [ __ ] news and your history and your science from YouTube and thr Facebook there as well I read I read a study the other day our studies show that people who only look at Facebook for their news are less like well [ __ ] no [ __ ] yeah I it's not the news yeah well the thing is they're not actually reading the article that's there they read the title which is

clickbait yes but then also it it it it learns oh they like headlines that say that let's show you more of them and then you go oh well everything says that but it's not not only it doesn't even have to learn I I signed up for Syd Morning Herald app the other day because I'm about to go back to Australia and I want to start getting Australian news rather than as news and it was like ask me what topics are you into you into this you into this you into this we only show you stuff you like I'm like that's not the news that's not what the news is for the news you tell me what's important this is supposed to be curated I got to say I I the other day I was looking for information on this this Tik Tok thing that we'll talk about and I went to um like Australian news and I

was like I didn't know any of this stuff was happening like yeah I've actually been cuz some stuff you say and I'm sort of like and the news I get here I'm sort of like I think I know more about what's happening in your country sometimes than what you get because we're reporting on stuff differently yeah absolutely so I got to I got to try and be more careful about that just I mean look I don't I don't watch the news a lot I mostly just get Apple news notifications world news you can't go wrong but they but all the notifications I get I guess are from US News sources and and then they're incredibly biased here like the media here is just so like like split down the middle like you either get all the you know the the left wi news or all the right wi news it's very difficult to get

uh new this is just literally the fact yeah yeah there there is no unbiased news source yeah it's no it's difficult except us obviously yeah of course yeah yeah actually I'm very biased I know so am I I'm joking I'm very extremely I'm incredibly biased but I'm also a Centrist so you know yes yeah same we'll see I you're getting incredibly biased news but I'm neither right nor left leaning so yeah but apparently we're the worst Dan if you listen to either of the side yeah [ __ ] pick a side yeah no I will not pick a side I refuse to have made up my mind before I've heard the facts yeah that's that's the worst thing you can be cist [ __ ] atheist or agnostic like [ __ ] worst mate one I believe this oh now I've got some more

information now My Views are shifting because I now no more it's called educating myself stand for something or stand for nothing it's like when I found out that the gays were trying to get the the bisexuals banned from the Marty gr and it was like what like well you know pick a side mate like they have they want to march in the MRA yeah they want to support you all problem pick aide oh yeah that's what they got yeah they got mad at Ruby Rose yeah oh she just decides what she wants to be I'm I don't probably doesn't work quite like that she wakes up she goes H who am I going to be today yeah and it's totally political too who do I want to piss off yeah yeah so murder Hornets uh

we've been hearing about them since earlier in the year uh because they told us you got to watch out for these if you see these like I genuinely they said if you see these things you got to report them somehow somebody's introduced these giant [ __ ] Hornets that kill all the bees and the bees oh you know the bees are endangered now so it's a thing and uh and so yeah if you see these things is there is there a dollar in that is there a market for us collecting as many bees as we possibly can now you know what I mean I mean do we know how or is this going to be some kind of genocide I actually no they make I actually have thought about keeping bees have you yes I've thought about it and then realized that I'd have to apply for it oh you have to apply for it well no

yeah evid you can like rent bees rent so they're not my bees mate they're a rental you don't do all the caring but you basically just get these bees they're on your property and they go out and do their thing but you're not actually even charged of the whole caring for them part okay so the rspca can't show up and arrest you yeah is this like where you kind of you have a horse that you ride every week and it's your horse but it's not really your horse and it doesn't live at your house it Liv a stable yeah except you can't ride a b well I mean you could D but the rest of you can't say that but I I went to uh I went to a establishment once in mji called the honey Haven I don't know if you guys have been to mji but it's great wi fresh

BR juice well no it's a shop where you can buy all sorts of Honey right and we get in there and we I was pretty interested right and I said to the woman um who had clearly just gotten a job there because she spun around with a blindfold on and pointed somewhere it wasn't because she was a honey Enthusiast sure yeah there were very few of those I said can I can you buy pieces of honeycomb here and she was like yeah here they are and she's holding up like violet crumbles and I'm like no no no not the baking soda extract flavored with honey I mean like pieces of honeycomb and she like looked at me like I was a [ __ ] idiot um and then I tried to kind of pivot that and just be like are the bees like on the Prem mesis like are the bees here like can I see

the bees and she was like bees here no I'm like no I'm just I don't mean in the room I mean I'm I'm just asking if your products are made locally like are they made on the premise she was like maybe there are some bees down the back but way down the back okay fine forget it we get it let me just buy some violet crumble and I'll be out of you here he's like under the under her coat it's just like a giant swarm of bees dressed as a human and like she's like sweating like bees she's got an earpiece in and they're like do not tell him about the Bees No be I don't know why you think they were bees here mate and then you step backwards and suddenly there's a guy in a suit with sunglasses on Sir come with me who told you about the

bees like in Disneyland when you ask about the alligators yeah what what I just asked where they keeping Donald at Disneyland if you see an alligator uh this well okay this is an anecdote obviously but uh there was a story I think it was on Reddit where somebody was with their family at Disneyland Disney World rather the Florida one Florida yeah and yeah and saw an alligator right which is I mean Florida there are alligators there's recently sadly A kid got grabbed from one of the resorts there cuz it's alligator [ __ ] Florida yeah yeah grabbed and killed pulled into a car I believe it was that's right no I believe the kid got killed by an alligator so anyway this families in the park and they saw an

alligator and they're they think they're just kind of hanging out alone is as as alone as you can be in Disneyland standing there there's not like security around them or anything sure and then one of the kids points and goes oh look it's an alligator suddenly [ __ ] team of of men in suits come up and they're like could you come with us and they're like we just you know like we preferred if you didn't see the alligator here's a bunch of free [ __ ] wow so next time we're there we just start talking about alligators the entire time this sounds like my China maval story all over again but they have the tightest [ __ ] security Disney Disney World yeah yeah oh yeah I do want to watch I want to read that I want to read that book a BBC show

uh but read the book instead all right I'm reading a book uh I'm reading um Avery which is the book that Ken Katz the uh district attorney from Wisconsin wrote about Steven Avery the gentleman from making a murderer cuz I how is that it's and point of view it's interesting because well he writes in a he's a little I don't know it's written in a little bit of an irrita so convoluted like the the the the documentary does a very good job of cuz they set it up with the the first wrong wrongful conviction and framed like that it becomes easier to accept some of this other stuff but if you kind of stop and think about it it's pretty [ __ ] outlandish to suggest that

these like you know no offense of any of them are listening but these like small town [ __ ] sheriffs these are not highly trained [ __ ] detectives as far as I'm aware they're not the FBI like that these people conspired to to do all this it seems very outlandish to me like yeah and the the reason behind it is because we did screw up and he went to jail so yes to make it better we will frame him so he goes to jail to avoid the lawsuit but then the other thing is too like like a lot of the so some of them were involved in the in the case where was going to get a payout but they W they didn't have to pay the money yeah like EXA not their money yeah and framing him for this murder doesn't solve the fact that everyone knows he

was wrongfully convicted so I just don't really I don't know it's yeah to me you'd still be able to go to court and sue because that original one was still wrong just because you got done for another one doesn't mean that you weren't but I think the one thing that does make me go I guess maybe is the fact that they did know that it probably was wasn't him and they still convicted him on it so that fact but that happens all the time as exactly because they have to convict somebody like that's just how it works I mean that other Netflix about the guy who just confesses to all these murders so the cops basically just befriended him and went what about this one we could solve that one I guess that was because otherwise the cases just sit there open because

they don't have the resour played Ace Attorney right you know someone has to go down for it yeah I haven't finished it yet but it is interesting I'm I'm going to I'm going to keep reading it despite the some I roll my eyes at a few bits of it and uh and uh but there's there's some interesting facts in there like there things like uh it contains full transcripts of uh voicemails say for example like um Theresa holbach the girl who was murdered left a voicemail for for when she was coming to take photos of the car at the at the Avery property she left a voicemail the version of the voicemail you hear in the sh doc is edited down the full version of it is actually is is more interesting because she says she doesn't know where she's

got to meet up with the person and there's a few little suspicious details where it's like you know cuz she's been there before but she wasn't told where she had to go this time so it's a little they're just kind of little suspicious details that the documentary cut out cuz obviously it makes makes him look a little more suspicious have a more succinct story it's just to to cut out the audience might go why did she not know why did he not why did he try to hide the fact that it was his house basically yeah it's funny when you said uh they're not given the proper training they're not the FBI and all this stuff like this um with the recent troubles in America with police brutality um uh and you know black deaths in custody and police not being really equipped with the training and

and expertise to handle certain extreme situations understand everyone's angry but saw that there's a there's a a new protest I guess you'd call it # defund the police yeah and it's like sorry you think less training is the answer you think less resources is the answer that's not what they're saying they what they want to do is for crimes that don't require a police officer stop sending police officers or not even crimes for situations where that's fine I get that yeah but that's not defunding the police that's these people are saying that the police are given too many resources now some people are are talking about just people saying that what they're actually

trying to say is like don't give all the money to he spread it around so when you have someone that's going out to a noise complaint or someone with mental illness you got someone who's got training for that scenario got a g the police can you do me a favor can you explain this to the people who are using this hashtag who don't understand the Nuance of that hashtag is not going to get all of that in yeah and and I don't know man last year I would have there are people there are people who if you say do you mean get rid of the police they're like yes they will say yes because Anarchy is anarchy yeah so unfortunately it gets confused a lot of they but also flat earthers I'm not joking at all yeah and and to be clear I don't want to I I wasn't you know [ __ ] on

police or sheriff or anything like that when I said God no no sorry I didn't mean to no no no I just I just wanted to clarify like you know like they're doing most of them are doing the best job they can it's yeah no I think you're right and I think violence against people aside and and you know what if they do them then we lump that in there too but I think yes I think most of these people take you know the police force as a job that they can get into without a whole lot of other yeah I'm like I'm not saying lack of training as a slight against police officers I'm saying as a as a on a as a system I feel like they should be getting better training for them as well not just it's sort of weird for for a country that has so many more guns and stuff they have less training

than countries that really don't have that gun culture yeah like Australia England and all of that like they get more training but they don't have to deal with the same things that America is dealing with yeah well just the fact that you can cops can can be restraining somebody in know and kill them and they don't realize that they're doing that like the that that case where they just you know they sit on people right you can't do that you crush them but like they just don't they just don't know that but then also saying that that also does happen in Australia as well of course yeah yeah yeah and and that actually does come back to some of training because when someone is fighting against you they're not playing by the rules and being nice so they are taught through everyone get

this person down try and restrain them it's shitty job it can go wrong it's a it's a tough job and well even in Australia they're taught that you will be spat on you will be assaulted as a police officer that will happen to you and that's just by me in this training session no but I I mean Sam said it that in a way that I really thought was accurate but also beside the point um but certainly accurate when he said no one has the right to not be arrested if you're being arrested you're being arrested and that is oh that's one of those most annoying things you hear so often at moment I do not consent you don't have the [ __ ] consent that works now in in in the real world maybe there is a gray area but in terms terms

of what the law is and your requirements is a if a police officer is arresting you and you are completely innocent of that crime go along with it you'll be out by [ __ ] morning well the problem with that is yeah I know I know it's not that simple but no cuz here there's there's some good evidence to suggest that you know depending on the color of your skin you might not survive being arrested unfortunately and I think people have a have a good reason to be afraid in those circumstances and that might cause them to make the situation worse or or you know what I'm saying so imagine as a oneoff that was to happen to you that you're inconvenience for a night that went away but imagine if that was a regular occurrence right yeah that's that's where I can understand why if you

were black you would be afraid to be arrested to be like I can completely understand that well I think just for driving your car yeah and on the spectrum of of ways you're likely to die that's disproportionately high for them yeah so I think if you're white sure but then but things change unfortunately do you remember when we first started this podcast I don't think we were this political no I don't think the world was alth maybe it's just we got old well I think we were just immune to it back then or we thought we were yeah that's true yeah we lived in Western Sydney we had very specific concerns guys want can we talk about video games or something yeah sure I've played a game this week

I I I I I'm very interested to hear what you think of this game yeah so this is a game that I just flat out was never going to play um but they updated it recently and it was well it wasn't free well I mean itll i' signed up for for cool yeah game pass on Xbox um so you talking about Fallout 76 Fallout 76 which came out and disappointed everyone um how long have you been playing for I've been playing nonstop since Friday and I dropped way at the airport midnight on Friday played all through the night all day yesterday played this morning until I had to go and play tennis with somebody begrudgingly stopped came home and now I'm waiting for this podcast to finish so I can go and play some more the Xbox

is still on I can see the light behind you it is yeah I just turned the TV off so you couldn't see that I was literally playing it right up until recording L doesn't bother I by Xbox is off thank you very much sometimes Discord pops up while in the middle of the show and it's like Luke playing some game playing clicker things CU he's he's just got the controller under the desk he's got the dick troller yeah so I think cuz I've recently started playing 76 again uh because it came out on windows and new achievements so I started playing give it a try I sort of I sort of skipped past a lot of the stuff and I'm just going through emotions to get achievements because oh what else is to me no no no but to me in this game no decision I make will have

any impact on this game at all so no matter what side I choose right that mission is going to be there again tomorrow okay okay I mean like it's and even when you go into an instance and you're going to have a chat with the human characters now what I do and what you do it's different but then we're in the same world and an I'm not an MMO person yeah that's that's way M it's definitely an MMO it's it's it's not Fallout 5 it's Fallout 4 and a half yeah but I'm really enjo power army yet like the old Republic's like that like you got you go to this area and they're like oh we're being overrun by the enemy and then it's like oh you've really helped us but they're still there tomorrow when you come back begging people begging more people to help them of course I get sent

on this Quest today and they're like you're the only one who can help and when I get there there's some other guy there also same I am you know what I mean I'm like I know who sent you mate yeah and then you they told you you were the only one as well what the [ __ ] is going on here it's like the you sh them up and go back and Rob them yeah no I enjoy this it's it's basically fall out four but without a whole lot of really intense conversations and I enjoy it people leave you alone and it is different to the first time where now you actually do talk to people whereas the first time playing it the way you got missions was you would come across a tape or a computer you get it that way or you talk to a robot but I understand that because that is the story though the story is

you got let out of the Vault way too late and everyone's dead so you're coming across things the reason you got let out late is you got drunk from partying too much at the leaving party and you slept in yeah and everyone left but but that makes sense why there's no people there and I kind of like that too I mean it's it's I can understand why get a little lonely if you're not talking to any human beings but when like you get sent on a mission to find somebody and ask them about something and you get there and and there's some old man going well they've been dead since before I was born and you're like oh like there's scope to this that's like really big and I think what this game does well that the other fallouts don't do quite as well is to

show the sheer scope of Life lost like the there are there seem to be way more dead B in this just [ __ ] yes dead bodies which does make sense because you're sort of like one of the first ones to come out so you're part of cleaning up that world for that'll be lived in in another hundred years but even but I'm going to be interested to see what you think of this game in another week if I get bored of it you mean yeah yeah after what Luke does to you yeah yeah well so to see if you can still hold an Xbox controller in a week like is there another update coming out what no I like it I like the combat I like the modifications to the leveling and I like the way that your perks come as bubble gum cards that you got to unwrap I did I didn't mind that I did enjoy

that but I want I but I wanted Fallout 5 yeah but they never they never told you it was going to be that in fact they told you it's not that uh I live in a nice little cottage that I've built myself down by the river you guys should drop by say hello yeah maybe I'll give it a shot yeah that that might be something you like that type of stuff for me I did the missions that taught you how to build [ __ ] and that's all I have like what I had to build to play and I forgot forgot I forgot that you have to do the early missions in order because they're the tutorial cuz I was just like no man I'm off I'm doing stuff I'm find how the [ __ ] do I get wood how the [ __ ] do I get took me a day to figure out how to get wood and then I realized oh tutorial one how to find some [ __ ] wood after I've

already built my my house but that's that's because you were playing like a real Fallout game whereas like I remember playing Fallout 3 where it goes hey go that way and I remember going up I'm going that way and just wandered off yeah what I love about Fallout 3 that none of the others have captured and I know that I think you guys both prefer New Vegas as a game I do right it's your favorite Luke would you be the same still haven't finished it I three is still my favorite and the reason is it's if you can just wander off and you will find a whole [ __ ] world that's got nothing to do with like I mean there side quest in all of them of course but Fallout 3 for me was like you could go down rabbit holes that took you

days to get to the bottom of that had nothing to do with the main quest I think new New Vegas has that but yeah at the the start of it is not as free like you you the area you're in you kind of have to take one of two paths to get out of it so you it does kind of railroad you a bit well was one of the first ones you're not playing like a vault while or leaving it's someone who lives in the world yeah yeah yeah the career mhm just give me five don't get me wrong is a very that's all I want not criticizing and what I liked about it too was that it's a little bit more Ser we're really bad at that yeah also lists can't see that we're high-fiving our cameras no probably if I do this yeah

probably so Matt can you still use Tik Tok or did Trump ban it over the weekend he said he was gonna I don't know so I I stopped using Tik Tok because of the um because of the weird cop your passwords yeah because of that weird [ __ ] it was up to so I deleted it um and then now yeah Trump's talking about issuing an executive order to ban it which I'm not sure if he can but I'm I don't I I mean I think it's how he spins it if he says this is literally Chinese spy wear he probably can well people have been saying that for for a couple of months now yeah that that it's not that it's well I think the problem is that the it's a company based in China based in Beijing and the servers I think are in China which means that whether

they want them to or not the Chinese government can do whatever they want with the data that Tik Tok collects so that's the concern and I mean I guess that's pretty valid concern if you don't want the Chinese government looking at your data so before Trump said he was going to ban it Micosoft was actually looking to buy it yes and so they're saying Tik tok's also talking about selling the US operations to somebody over here and that way it's separated and I guess the servers will be here that's the thing though I don't know there are other companies that people have raised concerns about there's a company called tick tick because I guess if you're a Chinese company you have to have a have name that starts with tick but uh it's a it's like a to-do app and

that's uh owned by a Chinese company but the servers in the US are in the US and they're separate and so they're not M you know that the Chinese government has no theoretically can't touch them so if Tik Tok does it again I could be wrong maybe they actually do have all the servers here and this is a fuss over nothing cuz how the [ __ ] would I know but yeah if they sell it to an an American company maybe that'll solve the problem but I've stopped using it I do have my music on there still though listeners if you're on Tik Tok and you want some music just give brain fit a search I do get money for that so feel free you get money from Tik Tok your Tik

Tok famous oh wow well I think I've made 18 cents so far oo yeah that would actually have to be a a lot of people listening though they if if you use my music on a video so like if when you make a video on Tik Tok you can choose a soundtrack or I think you do the other way around right you can choose a soundtrack and then make a video to go with it I don't know uh and my music is on there and if people use my music in their videos I get money per view so and it' be like 0.000000 one of a cent for every oh yeah I'm sure it's not very much yeah yeah but that's what I'm sound like 18 cents you're actually quite a lot I could probably look up the stats on that uh I'll get back to you now

yeah uh so it's not banned yet but he's saying that he's going to ban it he said he was going to ban it on Saturday yeah yeah he says a lot of things lately he said the other day uh fouchy the you know the the head of the you know the viral [ __ ] whatever the the Doctor Who's the co doctor they've been having a tiff because they fouy keeps contradicting him and they've been he's been getting mad at him and fouchy got invited to throw out the first pitch at a baseball game and then at the same time that was happening Trump was doing a press conference where he said oh actually the Yankees have invited me to do it next month and then the Yankees are like no we haven't no we haven't and now Trump's had to come out and say oh I'm busy I can't I can't do

it I've had to cancel like no you didn't doing it yeah it's funny weird dude you must be the only country in the world who has a president who doesn't want to be president it's so weird he does the weirdest stuff sometimes it baffles me like how are you not embarrassed by this if if [ __ ] Kan how many decisions are he making and tweeting just while he's on the toilet just some of the weird with his finger on the on the nuclear button yeah so weird yes uh out and vote I guess I could I got I got to become a citizen they're raising the price so are they oh yeah I got to go out I got to do it get in on that now then well I mean the social prices already high man um I honestly believe that with the power

that the United States has or claims to have you shouldn't have to be a US citizen to vote for in the US president presidential oh but yeah good Lu changing that any yeah any country that is going to be affected by whatever [ __ ] billionaire lobbyist wants to be it next yeah should have the right to vote but I guarantee the first thing people are going to say if you say you want non-citizens to vote they're going to say oh great so all the [ __ ] immigrants get to vote on what happens in our country well there's a huge percentage of people who live there who are citizens who can't vote yeah well may maybe they should just get a job well no I'm talking about the people who go to jail yeah well maybe they should

just not do a crimes oh you can't vote from jail is that true that's you can't yeah yep that's it you lose your right to vote forever G no yeah mhm that and also if you can't get to a place to vote you can't vote so if you're working class and you've got to be at work well good luck bad luck so it's not like Australia where you have to vote like it's the law to vote and and you can you can not go to work in order to do that because you're required to do it and they can't say yeah they get a public holiday here so that everyone has the day off to vote and there's only one party running it's basically fascism but they still get the day off to vote that's funny yeah no it's you've got to you got to go out of

your way to do and then they want to have to do the mailin voting but everyone's against that because it's they they talk about vot I read an article did I talk about this I literally read an article the other day that I'm like this is not true that said that somebody's cat got sent a [ __ ] registration voter registration thing I like this did not happen and then they they the article they interviewed somebody and they said they said we find this very hard to believe but even if a cat and the cat was dead the cat had died several years ago even if someone's dead cat did get sent a registration form when the cat thead cat sent it in unless they have a driver's license yeah they show up unless they're a human being yes with a [ __ ] valid driver's

license even the driver's license a cat wanders in that's right with if it's got the paperwork mate what are you going to do you know what though it's going to Biden can't people do give animals way too much credit right so um there's a lot of pets in my building right and I guess there must have been some mess outside so the management put up a sign on the door that says no pooping or peeing in the common areas right and Ember herd's like [ __ ] you have you it's my right to poop where I wish Live Free or Die um no so that was up for about a day then the next day when I was walking Charlie I noticed that they' taken the sign off and put it back on down the bottom of the door because obviously someone had said well it's for animals

not humans so it should be down at their ey so yeah where the pets can see it [ __ ] Rous it's still it's it's like half a foot off the ground you're paying attention to it when they after they moved it you and you're on the way out then Charlie turn to you and go oh when did they put this up yeah yeah he's like wait that was for me yeah [ __ ] ridiculous that's all for this week thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show if you enjoyed it then please subscribe and items to receive episodes automatically we'll see you next time