Thanks For Giving: Eli Roth's Thanksgiving & Graham Hancock Debate

recording right now it is happening I'm leing with my hangover and I'm going to Soldier on through by drinking a codral yeah we'll call it codral is that a Picard Breer it is not a Picard Breezer what is it do they still have Picard breezes oh yeah they do this one is called AR going to get rid of their bestseller Crush raspberry flavored raspberry cuz you were with that in Aldi with a with a 19y old girl no I was just in there was buying some stuff and then I saw this went I'm going to drink these Ali sells booze yeah Ali sells great Boos is that a change in Australia I thought you know booze had to be in a separate store it's in a separate section okay like it's in a little Al Cove or at least as he here in CRA it's different in Amro you can actually just

have the alcohol sold in the store cuz the government's like no we just we don't need the normal I need it I need to put out my hand and touch a drink I don't have enough time to go and line up in two lines to buy got a lot of responsibility and I need to be drunk for it yes welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to all things nerdy need to be a to buy my food and alcohol in one go which makes life so much easier cuz bottle shops shut late whereas wwor is open to like midnight well also bottle shops don't open as early as supermarkets no they don't and

wwth does guys I had an experience the other day I don't know how I feel about it I was I've got street parking around this area and a lot of people that work you know kind of in Town Park in my street and the guy who works at the bow shop parked in my street saw me walking the dog and went hey and I was like that's my best customer not a good sign you a worst sign um I went for was like we had work drinks yesterday just for Christmas party um went across the road to the pub I was there with one of my managers like [ __ ] this I want to pay for drinks no no no cuz we had to pay for drinks and we're going out and so I went there got a drink and the B St no be by

name so hi Luke P now I'm here with my manager we just get a [Laughter] schooner there's this great episode of The Sopranos where he goes into this restaurant at lunchtime with his girlfriend and they're like Mr soprano so nice to see you again and then he goes in the same night into the same restaurant with his wife and the same matred goes Mr sopran it's been so long since you're here I actually think I added the accent I think they're just no no no that's exact would been would have been it yeah mug this week multile as a mug I thought about I thought about my nerdgazm mug today actually oh God so there how many people on that mug it's just my multiple n a mug better be on that [ __ ] mug oh [Laughter]

what hilarious wow did you think of that cuz that sounds like a Jen gag to me no excuse me I thought of it have you know she doesn't come up with all my material for me um look I'm just saying something I need we need to talk about now and I need to understand there's another red dwarf remake of what am I missing you're missing pink dwarf and there's more than one pink DF this is the this is the porn parody oh if you've ever wanted to see man on hologram on robot on cat I actually B kind of want to read something cuz they've got the name the best thing about it it's not a fil it's a book yeah oh so it looks like it's done by someone who actually likes the show and

but just wants to be wants to be jerking off while he wants to he makes what yeah okay the year of 2028 2020 2280 the pink dwarf tro Club is in orbit around nemus one of the moons of Saturn the crew of all exotic dancers meet Deb liser who was caught by the manager rumor sucking off customers in private booths you get sent to stasis for the rest of the ship's tour without pay 3 million years later list exactly how I remember that pilot episode where Lista was sucking everyone [ __ ] hell after investigating they find cat a gorgeous feed line humanoid who was involved in ship's pet she seems only friendly but

that doesn't worry Lista but they start to get close list the sces that is hiding a very special secret between her legs it's 19 pages long is I feel like and it's on bit so I could probably try and read this for next week if you want please try and read it cuz I have I'll give it a go I couldn't get through um 50 Shades of Gray This is short so maybe I can get it wouldn't being 19 Pages that's sort of about the size of the episode would be like shot he's right that's a TV half hour there yeah he's like it can't be a page over guys it wouldn't be true to the original Source material oh pink dwarf bite two Titan I

guess that's Kiton but guess well yeah but if they didn't bring in Titan till the second season that's script accurate as well yeah all right I'm going to uh I'm going to have to check this out I guess yeah you're G have I've noticed I've noticed by the same author there's there's Doctor Who Doctor Who series as well um there also a book called pictures of Perfect boys in their natural beauty which is a disturbing title only because it says perfect perfect boys is just creepy what say on the tin yeah excuse me do you have any how do I put this pictures of Perfect boys in the natural habitat I'm sorry so dimmicks don't

carry that kind of stuff yeah we've got pictures of Perfect boys in Alien habitats that's just as good I will take that I'll take that off your hands right now I actually watched some Doctor Who this week um for a roundabout way so I um okay I'll give some followup I watched the first episode of Ludwig which I mentioned last week being Dave Mitchell's uh comedy series where he's a detective uh I liked it very much I liked it very much and I think both of you may enjoy this as well be William Shakespeare thing [ __ ] man it's a could turn away billion times better than that I really made a go with that too because I'm like no I like David Mitchell and I like Shakespeare there's no reason this should suck this

bad upstart Crow right that's got a couple it some three or four English there's enough people in England some must it six episodes a season um but there's it's very it's not laugh out loud funny it's not that kind of Comedy it's just a light British funny mystery mhm right yeah okay um we touched on the plot a little bit last week but basically it didn't really cue me in so basically David Mitchell plays this strange introvert who writes cryptic crosswords for a living and doesn't like to leave his house he has a twin brother who's a detective who goes missing and he needs for reasons in the episode needs to impersonate his brother but then finds out because of his kind of asperges he's

quite a good detective yeah right all right wonder where I can watch this lud right I mean I don't know where I can watch it either Matt if you know what I'm you know what I'm saying but I uh there's an episode where I've only watched one episode there's a part in the episode where it flashes back to them as kids right and because they're outraged they were kids in the80s right he's got a doctor who poster on the wall and I was like [ __ ] ' 80s Doctor Who Sylvester McCoy I know he's literally the doctor that got the show cancelled right after 50 years but that's my doctor who in in a big way as well so I wanted to see if it held it up so I watched also the first episode of and like they're an hour long right I

watched the first episode of the Sylvester McCoy Doctor Who to it's pretty rough it's it's pretty rough my dad met s McCoy did he just had a pub amazing yeah all so he told me yeah so M was like I've met your dad pob yeah and you were like is that true Sylvester I don't believe you a lot of people tell me that [Laughter] yeah I have to figure out where I can watch it but yeah uh I'm definitely it does look like it's streaming here either so yeah I'll have to work something out I worked something out I still been watching the odd would I lie to you clip on YouTube I did I watch some what I like you Clips this week too you mentioned it lastek so good such a good

show and also it's got my listen now I've got to watch uh the road trip with um Steve kugan and Rob Briden oh yes which I think I mean I've seen clips from that too I've Just Seen clips of them doing their Michael Kane Impressions yes no I have seen that but just bear in mind in England it was released as a series and in America it was released as a film so it's longer if you watch the British one sure okay it's just them traveling around yes no I've just realized I've seen it yeah yeah you said the name of it did ring a bell there's a second season I think where they go to Italy or some yeah okay yeah cuz those guys are very funny yeah cuz he's like yeah no Michael Kane talks like this no you're do an old Michel like

this no idea she was 9 years old down keep it down yeah you know what else I watched this week actually I'm only halfway through I'll probably watch the rest tonight I watched we've got to talk about Bill Cosby remember that documentary that came out all that stuff came out it's um it's not as unbiased as I thought it would be because it's a whole lot of throws book at him does it it's a it's a whole lot of people who knew him and like who never molested me well kids who were on the show well that's kind kind of the gist but not not exactly like that but and also other comedians who were in influenced by him and stuff saying how important in their lives he

was and how devastated they were to find out he was a brutal serial rapist well the thing about it is is he used to joke about it like he didn't really hide it and still even throughout this said I did nothing wrong so I gave and have my way with them who hasn't done that right Roman at least mine were fully grown women yeah I could see with especially with the children cuz there was nothing with children that was ever accused so I could see why he they would sort of be like no we worked with him on SEC he was great like he was yeah yeah and a lot of them are saying like we in a weird way we want to separate his work his body of work from his personal life because of

how important it was to see like you know first you know black actor on a sitcom yeah in prime time and all of these things so important to a lot of people and to find out this yeah and a real [ __ ] too by the sounds of it yeah yeah that sucks no but don't forget he is innocent oh that's speak it's true yeah y yep released yeah released Pat it on the back and do what you want mate in France you would be literally be considered Innocent by everybody which is a wild thing remember was that so we can go and hang out with poiny then that documentary about the murder that took place in the the woman was French and they somehow they without the guy who was accused they had the a trial in France and the the guy was like this is

a fast I'm not even involved in that they just and then they found him guilty and then the family they interviewed them afterwards and they said no no no the way it works in France is that he did it so he's guilty he he he did it and then interviews are like yeah but you know you know the evidence is a bit questionable and this this points these other no no no no the judge decided that he did it yeah so he did it and at the end of the day he did have the option to go and defend himself yeah I just thought it was wild that they were just like yes system is they just like no no no he did it yeah not he was found guilty yeah yeah exactly yeah the judge told me he did it sounds a little bit like Phoenix right yes unless you invite someone else you're it but you know what

also sounds like I watch a lot of I watch a lot of YouTube videos of like how the pyramids might have been built and stuff and I'm know I don't mean like aliens I mean like with ramps and stuff right but the thing is Stonehenge and all of that stuff but when ever whenever they come out with a new a better way to do it an easier way they go no it was this way cuz this is easier and it's like they might not have done it the easy way yeah you don't know that yeah yeah you can't say this is the way just because it's the way you thought of helicopter it's so much easier industrial cranes yeah right yeah it's got to be yeah the pyramids are are interesting it's funny to me that people are still like so they're so mysterious in that we just don't know why certain things and

how certain things that it's just this this [ __ ] we'll never know that's what's it's just so fascinating it's like of course there's a like probably mundane obvious explanation for everything but just something like why does the is it the king's chamber that's got the the gaps above it to support it but then there's other ones that don't and then it's just like it's just like why' they do that took them 10,000 years to build it and they just didn't think of it well no I think at the time it's like it's not like they were built a year apart or anything no that's true yeah yeah why do these ones have carvings these ones don't well because there's 5,000 years in between the building of them yeah yeah why don't new headstones here have the little death head on them cuz

we don't put them on there anymore change mate I think we should bring that back though don't you I think so too I can agree right now that if you go first we'll make sure you get a cheeky little death head on yours oh that's right yeah yeah yeah I mean Dave made his promise we'd all [ __ ] his dead corpse so like car putting a little carving on yours is not I've taken of it guys you [ __ ] him to death this is not coffee I don't want to ask you [ __ ] him to death till he ejaculated or that's his blood I'm not sure what you're I'm not yeah I'm with Luke I don't know what you're implying it's best if much like the pyramids it remains mysterious um something that that blew my mind that I watched one the other day

uh you know how the pyramids were covered in so like they're just they're just the stone blocks now but evidently they were covered in some shiny [ __ ] what is it [ __ ] I don't know marble wasn't shiny but it was just it was straight yeah smooth I guess an obsidian thing at the top right they made the walls of Cyro made out of yeah so I assumed that they built the stone bits and then they got diagonal bits and and of the and did one row one row of course they didn't they did a row around of the smooth bit then one row inside of the the stone bricks then just filled it with sand or Rubble or whatever then went in one and did one

more and I'm like yeah of course of course that's like if you were building that out of Lego that's how you'd do it you wouldn't build it to the top and then build the outside you'd do two layers as you went along right right yeah well did they Matt he'll yeah he'll tell you he's uh they've totally they they've gone hard against Flint Dil we don't have to do too much on this but did you see that I did see that and I think that's a bit a bit gross to be honest the way how like just come on it yeah because um he made one mistake and they're like and then call a liar like mate I I don't have every answer on hand he misread it

like he misread one thing about how many boat like sea he's lying about sh he lying about yeah it was just very strange like yeah yeah not not good yeah so they had that big debate on uh on Joe Rogan's for listeners who don't recall Flint dible went on he's an archaeologist he just corre he basically corrected grahe on a bunch of stuff about his Lost Civilization Theory there was a lot of stuff that they talked about like a lot of stuff and he got one fact wrong because he misread a slide I think they even said the slide was correct he just misread it I think I think he just be clear a slide he had prepared and brought along with him yeah yeah he said 3 million instead of 300,000 H that's

all no and then and then yes you're right corrected himself actually afterwards in a in a video that he made afterwards he said yeah sorry I made a mistake on the when I was during the debate but even like for him to have to slide to be correct and then people still like I'm pretty sure the slide was correct spoke like the slide was wrong as well maybe you could go yeah he's just exaggerating and and he he admitted it and he said sorry about that actually not that not that important in the grand scheme of everything we discussed but I did make one mistake and then now they're like well he played fast and loose with the facts didn't he yeah I also love how like Hancock's going on about like big archaeology and like oh this guy he gets to do this and Flint

D's like doesn't I'm on half wages because I'm on a re research scholarship like like I make no money dude but you make more money than we do and he's like honest to God if I found Atlantis I'd be the richest archaeologist in the world because everyone would give me a grant yeah yeah it's not that we just don't we're hiding it it's just it's not there yeah and and that all the things and I mean the main the main problem that gr Hancock seems to have and this is just this is just me is that he doesn't seem to believe that like straight lines can naturally occur basically so he'll see things and he'll be like that must be man-made it looks like something volcanic glass can Harden in like a cascading brick shape like yes it looks very fancy and cool

and if you don't know you might think that looks manmade but talk to a geologist and they'll say No actually that's that's what that looks like like bimin Road and all that the it's the what do you call it the sea the Sandstone it's just formed that way but no looks like a road it's a road must be a road yeah all those Indonesian like volcanoes that have you know like no that's a manmade that's a pyramid it's not it's not yeah it's a lava tube probably yeah yeah what's under there we don't know no one's looked what are they hiding no one's looked cuz we know it's a volcano dismantle a mountain to find out and we can't be bothered it's a volcano we already know why doesn't he go well the problem is he'd have to get permission and like I said he'd have to

destroy a mountain to figure it out like they're not this it's there's very little incentive for anybody to say yeah why M where your mouth is mate yeah fair enough yeah oh fair enough I did one thing that I liked in his followup though was that he admitted that in season one of uh ancient apocalyps he was too oppositional and he focused too much on saying archaeologist wrong just grieving yeah which is literally the reason I didn't like it cuz actually I can handle a whole lot of [ __ ] but it was just his season 2 was way better about that all the way back he would say things like I don't think arist know

about this fine fine say that if you want but don't they're trying to silence me I did like uh one of the guys in season 2 was the you know the M expert um well actually I think he's an incor expert but he knows about both um yeah the guy who was also on Lex fredman I watched I love him he's great because he's way more reasonable like he he believes a couple of like more outlandish things about them which I think are interesting he at least admits there's things we don't know yeah and then but then he's like oh no I don't think it's an ancient civilization like gra does he's like well he was great on Lex Freedman because he basically said I like Graeme Hancock as a person and he's one of the greatest researchers in the world right now in that he looks into

everything and he's got the money his conclusions are just wrong you know makes wild leaps of of reasoning yeah well I think he goes in with conclusions already sorted out in his head like get this I'm going to find a way to get there but he is finding interesting stuff like all the Amazonian glyphs and stuff like that like yeah yeah I mean that that is what this guy says to Lex Freedman as well cuz he's like talking about you know the circles that he found that's probably what you're talking about right the the used liar to find the more of those gphs underneath the the forest cover yeah yes that's right and then Lex Freeman was like oh are there more and he's like are more there's literally thousands more yeah like but we have to vog the the

Amazon to find them more yeah well not now apparently cuz liar can see them that's cool yeah well yeah I've only watched like what the [ __ ] are they doing there that's obviously there were people there but M but it's not like not atlantans I'm going to go out all them here that's the problem is the problem is the word Advanced civilization like it's got It's So loaded and it can lit walk that back or walk it Forward he used to literally say Atlantis I've read his books called cars Atlantis now it's just like no no then you had to build those those circles in the ground but you know what's you know what's more interesting than people with flying cars going around telling people how to build pyramids is a bunch of [ __ ] natives who have no agriculture

who have no pack animals that they can domesticate building their own [ __ ] Mega structures that's interesting yeah it's [ __ ] cool and why' they do it we'll never know we never really know we literally never know something to do yeah they didn't have TV like what is gockley Tepe well we don't really know probably never will yeah so yeah a temple okay that is a very vague and yeah is but is it maybe it's not it's very but probably true if they could see the future they'd be like they're [ __ ] obsessed with your house [Music] mate yeah yeah yeah I knew those Stone pillars generate some one day they were nice weren't they yeah that one of a bird I did they love

it [Music] yeah I need to issue a correction oh actually when you said it last week we all went [ __ ] what yeah but we believed you because you're trustworthy no no apparently not I've just done some some bad math in my head cuz as soon as I I I don't even know what triggered me to to to notice this okay so I said Quantum break must have been technologically impressive because it did the the stuff that I was observing on the 360 it didn't it did on the Xbox one yeah okay and uh which makes sense because I think what my brain did was it came out in 2016 and my I know that that's a console release year and my for some reason my brain went 360 it's not it's when the it's literally the year the Xbox one was released it was launch

tile 20 2009 2010 somewhere around [Music] there yeah look he's think still very good good well no it's hard because it's two release dates for the 360 oh cuz it came out to Australia a year later remember oh oh did we get screwed we didn't get it the same day cuz I remember I used to play a lot of people pull that [ __ ] now we they'd be angry people I used to play a lot of people in Halo 2 and that was the Xbox One and then well not the Xbox Xbox yeah and then I saw them slowly start to drop off with these people I played with because they got a 360 and then oh wow well well they could still come back and play Halo they found better games to play I guess and I never spoke to them again [ __ ] those guys I literally bought

that giant TV that I had to play my 360 with which again should me into the fact that Quantum break was not out then yeah you giant TV you helped me carry up the stairs Dan oh I remember that TV yeah and we had to get it out of that apartment when when we moved as well yeah yeah into the trash because because flat become available this can't be right when did it I it for a while actually I still had that when I lived next door I think in uh new do you remember when flat screens came out and they were Lally $330,000 yeah I had um my the company I worked for in um Sydney the the agency the digital agency he bought up bought these NEC just panels right there were

plasma panels they didn't even have a tuner or anything and you just hooked them up and they were I I think they were like 2030 Grand when he bought them like I know people who went out and got loans to BU FL screen within a year or two he he just gave them out to to stuff like I I that's the TV we had for a long time in or oh yes was that that that that it was beautiful panel that like yeah it was so [ __ ] expensive when you bought them yeah people went out a bit crazy when they first came out and then a few years later you had LCD and they really that's he just he just gave them out cuz he was like oh are useless yeah they're literally worthless yeah I'll say though my current TV I have a Sony Bravia right oh yeah pretty good pretty good brand pretty good TV

when I was a kid I had whatever [ __ ] I don't even I don't even know it probably doesn't exist now right yeah but I used to test the remote control when I was a kid like I was so fascinated how far can I be could I be pointing the could I be in the hallway and pointing it down at my bedroom and would it bounce off yes it was so sensitive it would any anything right now with my Sony braia if I'm not standing directly in front of the TV right if I'm on the lounge and I don't do this with my hand so that it's level with the [ __ ] sensor if I just like this doesn't work really I wonder if that's interference or just we've just yeah lost the technology Civilization I need to correct you again

oh cuz you said Quantum break was an Xbox One launch title did I yes wait what launch title didn't it it came out in 2016 didn't it yep it sure did okay so Xbox 360 was originally released the 22nd of November 2005 we got it in March 2006 360 was 2005 [ __ ] that's a long time ago that's the Xbox One 2013 huh 2013 mhm see and you know the reason that I had the date was cuz I know my original Xbox controller has the year on it cuz I've got that day one but it's in Vermont I look at it guess I could easily have Googled all right so it's 3 years after

the isn't there a bear living in your Vermont house right now [ __ ] there is yeah he's he's up there we got snow up there the captain now oh yeah when does it start snowing where you are um don't know when you my da excited for it though she's got a list of things that we have to do when it starts snowing the other day she's like when snows can we go out and do snow angels and throw snowballs M and make a snowman and drink hot chocolate and I was like yeah yeah do all those things [ __ ] yeah we can definitely definitely I think my daughter thinks the same as I thought when I was a kid which is that snow is just something they put in movies yeah right yeah no obviously we didn't have that at all no I didn't see snow to I

was very late in life I think late in life here is good the amount of snow because I don't have to deal with it too much MH like Vermont gets a lot of snow like right we have a guy who deals with it for is up there whereas here I I have to deal with it myself I don't like it do you salt is that what you do uh you yeah that's what you're supposed to do I generally don't hear cuz no one's coming up here anyway do you put snow tires on no we have all all weather tires we don't have here that it's worth me B you don't need chains yeah uh I have chains just in case yeah cuz if I'm driving to Vermont I might need them but oh okay we did have one occasion where Jenna's car the atlas couldn't get up a hill on the way to Vermont because of the ice mhm and we had to find another

route to get to the house so that as Australians this really blows our minds yes yeah I told you like was it last year or the year before I think it was last year they had like it was literally it was the coldest day or the coldest night in Vermont in uh in I think 100 years or something like that and they had like literally had like a a warning where it was like don't go outside for more than 60 seconds wow and so we all went up for the for the occasion and then just went outside just to see how cold is it it was [ __ ] cold we had a weather warning this week as well cuz it was been to be hotter it's been to be 5 to 10° hot nor this time this year and they saying like we're going to have to put the air con up in the buildings to

deal with it then it rained yeah I say they weren't expecting the rain I was just expecting it to be hot but it's raining now I was just listening to it rain all day while I was in bed I did R all day mhm oh well I've had Thanksgiving this week so oh yeah I you thankful for I was thankful for thankful for you guys and I was thankful for the listeners and Watchers was thankful for you know for a second there I thought someone's giving you watches what's this a new watch no thank for all these watches that I have I'll never I'll never not know what time it is we get up to 16 watches per episode sometimes unless it's Dr disrespect or me and a bikini in which case we get

hundreds it's quite random hundreds are disappointed viewers I watched some movies for the for the Thanksgiving Jenner and I watch did you watch a series of lacy shamb movies I did not unfortunately unfortunately I did not I watched uh a series of Thanksgiving horror movies oh what a specific sub genre well it was Thanksgiving yeah we tried to find uh Jenna found I shouldn't say we she did all the work found uh thanks because it started because we noticed Eli Roth's Thanksgiving was on Netflix so that was that's the the adaptation of his trailer that he did for Grindhouse if you recall okay yeah turned that into a full length movie okay and uh it might be the best movie he's ever done like it's it's [ __ ] ridiculous but it is very it is very

entertaining yeah there's like a I would watch that yeah there's a a Black Friday sale incident bunch of people die and then it's it's like it's kind of set up like I Know What You Did Last Summer there's like a Black Friday sale at a store people get killed and then someone wants revenge it's it's good like it's ridiculous got yeah I would watch this [ __ ] his name it's Patrick Dempsey the guy from gry's Anatomy yeah what it yeah he's in it it's good this is called Thanksgiving right it's just called Thanksgiving yeah what was that one we watched Matt is there one called thanks killing or or something with a turkey with a turkey that's a choma movie yeah the first Thanksgiving turkey comes back from the dead and kills people and then there's

meant to be a sequel but then there's but it's the search for the last sequel yeah there thanks killing three and they refer to thanks killing to which was yes yeah is that set in space or is there also a fourth one the missing sequel is set in space there's just a little clip of it I actually remember that being quite a good movie but it was very funny yeah but we were also very drunk well I was I don't know if anyone else I think with a lot of those like traa esque movies being drunk or high just helps with those ones and watch we also watched um we watched poultrygeist if you recall oh yes which is actually a Lloyd cman I think in my head they're the same movie I couldn't I couldn't tell you what happened in one or the other G to have to watch them

again yeah the cuz I meant to be making the new toxic Adventure evidently that's sort of in limbo a bit now yeah that's the one with um Peter Dinklage yeah I think they but now they just can't see a trailer there trailers just just can't get anyone to release it it's probably should drive down to Queens and just knock on their doorm and ask him yeah sure well well I don't think they they're not making this one not sure he's involved somehow you know he has no he has no call in Hollywood he can call James gun favors that's here's how much he doesn't have a poll Shakespeare's [ __ ] show his last movie oh yeah what happened that was submitted to a film for all at which I was a judge right there you

go um so watch Thanksgiving quite good mhm we watched uh a movie from the 80s called blood Rage which I noticed Ted rayy popped up in at one point oh okay this isie was Sam Ry directing was it usually why Fe yeah well it's that it's it's it's very outrageously like 80s gory like extreme 80s Gore effects and stuff um it's about two twins who they were just at the [ __ ] driving one night is two twins or two people who are twins two people who are twins okay two brothers yeah twin brothers and then just at the drive-in one night one of them goes crazy with an axe and kills somebody but then blames the other one and then the other one goes to a mental institute for 20 for like 20 years or

whatever and then what a plot that ftic escapes escapes on Thanksgiving and that triggers the other brother who's free to go on a killing spree again I think I've seen this it's it's ridiculous but it's quite entertaining Mark SOA oh this guy looks very familiar yeah yeah yeah yeah I think if it's probably the same guy I went oh that guy yeah yeah I mean this it's ridiculous uh but it to watch it's got very very silly overthe top Gore effects and like don't have to tell me twice mans mov ridiculous yeah I would watch that okay yeah that was good and then we watched this movie that apparently Reddit loves and so we were quite excited to watch it

it's called Christy have you heard of this this it's got do you know that girl is it asley Green from um the Twilight movies Ashley Green name yeah that's her name she's a quite famous actress um this is a movie about it's also set on Thanksgiving about a girl who is at college and stays back for Thanksgiving like she doesn't go home and so she's kind of like the only student on this big college campus okay and and then this kind of murderous that's the plot but this kind of murderous cult that kill people for online Kudos right they kill people they they call her christe her name's not christe I think it's Justine in it but they call the Christy means child of Christ or something it's like this weird kind of

relig you know like evil satanic religious thing where they just killing these young women but and then Reddit loves this movie but I and and Jenna also thought it was a bit [ __ ] right like it's um don't piss off ra maybe if you if you've never seen a a horror movie before this and I was impress it's very visually cool okay and very um like the the the scenes it's got some good like tension in scenes and stuff like that but the plot is just like I said just garbage like and like there's like that's there's four four of these bad guys chasing this one girl around a whole college campus where there's only one security guard for some reason and every where she goes they're already

there like you know it's one of those where it's and but which would be fine except the tone of it is not like that you know like you watch Halloween and it's like Michael M is everywhere but like he's a bit Supernatural and it's or Jaws three where they try to escape the shark by going to a different country and the shark beats them there yeah just I don't know anyway Reddit loves this movie and I just couldn't understand why unless unless it's to do with like it it the thing is it's got some very good visual stuff too because the lights keep flickering in the in the in the whole [ __ ] campus why why are the lights flickering like you know what I mean it's one of those it looks cool exactly it does look cool and it's very you know like the

cinematography great but but why why is it doing that anyway I thought that about um that Evil Dead spin-off that came out last year year before oh sure same thing well though I found they they that was Supernatural you know like you could hand light just want to like ghosts want to [ __ ] with your lights do they okay yeah but that gives you it gives you something you can hand wve it with this has nothing like that this is just very very gritty down to earth like very quite like the opening is quite brutal they've killed all these women and this kind of stuff you oh wow and then it's like o the lights are flickering why like how are they doing that yeah no fair you mentioned something that was something that popped into my head this

week too you know you said that Christie means like follower of Christ or whatever right daughter of Christ Christy we all have biblical all threey wrong Christy yeah can't wait for christas but we we all have old testament names right yeah and they mean stuff I don't I don't know what yours means but a new testament name don't they uh I think oh yes you're right you're right um Daniel evidently means God is my judge right L is God that is judged by right now we're westerners and we have names that don't mean anything to us or in our language right but if somebody was called Daniel in the time that also meant something oh how similar was it when you were saying someone's name as

opposed to just saying a sentence like if I got lost and you walked around going God is my judge God is my judge would somebody be like mine too mate he's like no no I'm looking for my friend his name is God is my judge you know like that's weird that's a weird thing to name somebody yeah like at what point that's what I mean means rock or something meaning of I think your name in the Bible is actually meant to be pronounced uh oh gift of God mat Matti yahu or something like that well it's sort of like it just says that Hebrew name mat Yahoo you're welcome comes from comes from like by my lady or something it wasn't yeah right that's so funny baby name meanings oh I'm not a baby so I guess it doesn't mean oh you're true but when you were a baby

when I was a baby it meant that yeah lot of noise we when people go oh my name is pronounced like this in this other language no it's not oh sure yeah Mato is is Italian for Matthew no it's not it's it's a name in Italy yes it's not they don't translate names your name name would there's like if your name was Robert and you went to France I'm sure they'll call you Rober they're just pronouncing it funny yeah timote yeah yeah but yeah I used to Geto because Italian teacher was like oh your name in Italian is BL and I was like no my name is Matthew I know what you mean but but that's not how names work yeah yeah so frustrating yeah other people would go oh my name insists and then they' insist on being when they

go they be no your name doesn't change yeah what's my name in Chinese Matthew yeah exactly yeah they don't have that name it's like yeah yeah that's the the sound that I am called by yeah yeah yeah yeah it's not like Jews go oh mat yaho H yeah I know him yeah right and I'm required to call him Matty Yahoo because I'm Jewish yeah that's right Matthew it's my French French version of my name m m actually I do know oh yeah yeah I know actually and I know bless you actually matu it's in Polish as well I know polish matu I guess we do have that name everywhere well I get and now that I'm you've got me there because it

probably is a different version of the same source sure yeah but that's cuz it's Europe right once you leave Europe the answer is the Roman Empire yeah so yeah yeah um we found out I found out apparently Jenna already knew this um there's some kind of I guess fantasy smut that people are into at the moment that has yans in it which is disappointing because now people might think we've dark kid after it it's like fairy smut is this in that like Romany genre that is massive at the moment yeah yeah I think my local Bookshop has an entire sub like a shelf that's just Romany which is like people that [ __ ] dragons and stuff no I'm not joking and you know

exactly where to look was reading it Theon Dragon [ __ ] book isn't it she's like he's [ __ ] one right now there's this genre too that I think you'd like Matt it's called cozy fantasy I read about this this week which is like um there's one where um I think it's two elves that open a Bookshop or something it's like it's like a it's in a it's in like a Tallen world but it's like no we just bake muffins and stuff why that word annoys me so much it's because everything is described as cozy like it's like a a cozy recipe was a CO recipe is am I cozy when I'm cooking is that what is what's cozy about it I don't understand yeah I actually had to look up I read something was described as a cozy mystery the other day and I

had to look it up and evidently a cozy mystery is when the stakes are low and the people that are trying to solve the mystery are not like the Poli warm okay okay I think it's meant to be that you're cozy while you're reading it you know this you know there anything right pink I'm [ __ ] cozy mate yeah you know what cozy my dick I do have to ask this do you think that rock was pissed off when he was asked to wear a muscle suit I've seen the pictures would that be maybe he asked maybe he was not in great shape so I I I have not I I've followed the rock pissing in j but I haven't followed his physique and apparently he's sized down

which is why he may have done this I mean you can't keep that up forever but the thing is in Moana he's not just muscular he's fat as well like he's just an an immense man and when I I assumed but then when I saw the the yeah the the image he's looks in in incredible shape but you're telling me right now this isn't this is not real this is not real I mean I believe it because I couldn't imagine getting into this but no like he's got like a he's got a six-pack though like yeah he's definitely not a yeah yeah I was surprised that they were making a liveaction Moana because why they just made Moana too why they I don't understand because the guy who he does the voice kind of looks like the character and that is they can laugh all

the way to the bank does he does he look like the character I don't think he does I mean like maybe on like a very you know like superficial way you know what he doesn't really look this is a muscle suit and you know how I know cuz he's wearing cuffs and there weren't any cuffs on the original character you know yeah I don't know I just I don't what do we need probably that movie a good movie yeah is he so this is just a you know like they're live actioning everything it seems too soon or they just got they've gotten threw them up to Moana now and I've just missed all the ones in between but no the tattoo Theory does make a little bit of sense though because imagine having to try and paint those tattoos on every day and they don't they do that all the time this is a

lot yeah yeah they still do that all the time I know they people spend like eight hours in makeup to do movies like but not the rock mate he gets there 8 hours late pisses the jar gives and says good point they're like oh can we pain the money he's not going to show up for that we have to figure out something we're going to slip him into real quick zip it up yeah yeah I guys I think we [ __ ] nailed this yeah yep unreliable he's probably taking this just as seriously as Disney are taking this like here's your money go make the [ __ ] movie it already is a movie it's a recent movie yes I just don't understand why we need all these but and in particular this one

I can see why they would like they want to dig up because that um snow white one's coming out soon that everyone's confused about no they can't do it what Snow White no oh they've already done it mate people confused about know man people have I don't know they might just pull this they might just put this in the bin with all the the bad press it's gotten yeah cuz there's they're seven magical creatures not dwares they're just magical creatures and then she gets sexually assaulted and then uh the oh yeah her and sleeping beauty I suppose but then they already do Sleeping Beauty oh they did Maleficent but then they the people are confused because I'm trying to be polite about this because you've got galado as the

evil queen and then the girl who is Snow White it's like yeah and she's just je that she's hot yeah yeah it's like I don't think galado is worried about her she's not losing any sleep off to her yeah I've seen the photos I don't all there's no yeah there's no no need to worry that's a girl who could walk by herself woods and not have to worry that she's going to get raped that's all I'm going to say I wouldn't get that far but oh hang on that sounds bad I wouldn't go I wouldn't go into the woods is what I'm saying dny D I'll stop you there mate I'm not going to follow her into the woods but if I can catch up with her before I was in the woods and she was in the woods the

woods and I had six little mates with me little magical creatures um but I think no no no cuz Disney kept tying himself in knots right so remember that remember that Snow White movie that came out with uh Ian McShan as as one of the and they had they they cast dwarves and then they cast Hollywood actors and super their faces on the dwares was that the one with was it the one with Christian Stewart yeah I think so yeah I think so I think I think that was even a rert Sanders movie I think that was the one where he slept with Christian Stewart even though he was married to adris Ross's sister yeah right yeah okay guys I think Dan I think we're wrong they released a new trailer for this movie

today did they okay so it is it's coming but I remember Dinklage Dinklage got [ __ ] furious online and was like how dare you cast dwarves and then superimpose over their faces with non dwarves other guys going shut up like we're getting work we're not all you yeah correct that's right but I think that's why for this one they were like let's just not do anything like no no dwarves Snow White and cuz it's not called Snow White and the Seven Dwarves is it Snow White you think that's what pckage wanted at the end except fine we just won't hire anybody no no that's not what I meant yeah yeah and then Snow White in the seven heer ding glitches we'll just use the computer to generate them oh that's not what I meant

yeah yeah we'll just ask AI if it knows what a dwarf is yeah I bet it does oh they got seven fingers people are not liking the comments on this are not nice well they're evil but they're not this like I said like I was saying there's just a series of things people been annoyed about and now it's like it's got it's too G Rachel Zig Zigler real life villain that's just no white I don't know what she's done there's some about her being say whatever arrogant aggressive thing she wants even against Disney and Neil so evidently she's done something the only thing I know that she's done is that she criticized the original 1930s Snow White cuz she she

said it was misogynistic and and etc etc and that this one is not evidently this one is a bit more girl powery let's be honest there's only one star in snow in Snow White movie Galo I did like what that first one say galado real life Snow White I don't know about that no I mean galado I like her but I don't know about [Music] that she's not a great actress let's be honest no she is beautiful though she's beautiful yeah yeah that's why she's famous Yeah well yeah I me a model right she was yeah yeah and in the Army yeah yeah you know what SE Israeli Army I don't think she was probably even the hottest chick in the Israeli arm I've seen I've seen those those like I

mean yeah obviously they just picked the hot ones for those but there's enough there's enough of them though that they can pick from yeah but when when everybody has to be in the Army all wom in the arm so it's like yeah of course there are the H the hotties are in there too so are the agos it's not going to show you them um yeah I watched so I was just going to say just before we move off the only one of those liveaction remakes I saw was the Aladdin remake MH I haven't seen that guy Richie directs Will Smith stars as the Gen that's right I forg forgot about that one of the worst movies I've ever seen but they kept making them they took everything and just focused on all the bad bits

like it's like I don't know it's really oh I didn't see the Beauty and the Beast one it was all right they liking beauty Beast Aladin Beauty and the Beast one was controversial because there was a gay kiss in it but I don't even remember that cuz it was just just I guess just two people kissed and I wasn't really amongst a bunch of other people being happy so yeah I remember like in Star Wars yeah no that was more like they cut to a random shot like you know the one in Star Wars felt very like inserted as a thing whereas this was just happening M nothing was inserted no but the the Star Wars one it was like things were happening and then they stopped to show you that to show you that it was a montage of people

embracing yeah but it what I'm saying I don't like the movie but I'll just you know I don't mean to say it was it wasn't like Po was just like we've got a storm that hold on what's going on over there cut with pen anyway anyway saying no but the of the Beast one was [ __ ] movie in the I guess anyway I don't remember maybe it was was it men or women what the whole thing about making the male villain gay or something not the male villain the the the what's he gu Josh Gad character um yeah what's his name the guy who sings a song about G lefu Leu Leu Leu it's French yeah I don't remember anyway I movie did so but but just are you

telling me that Gaston and lafu kiss in this no no no no no no Gaston would never do that right so it's just gay because Josh Gad plays him and he's a gay man so that character I don't even know if he's the character that has the gay kiss I don't I don't remember maybe they stop again and he's like sorry what's going on over here and just hand lesbians from Star Wars almost what's happening down the [ __ ] beasts hanging on the side of the castle what's that apparently there's this whole kind of subculture of women up men too mainly but I've only seen women do it online I triy to only watch women do it try as I might um who believe and this is in the

cartoon not in the live action film but who believe that the Beast was hotter when he was a beast than when he turned and that that thing that there's a shot of uh Belle when he's transforming where she's like bewildered by it yeah but they reckon that that's disappointment that I didn't know that was going to happen you smaller as well now it's less Barbed there's only one Bas and that's Ron pman be only one Beast for Luke yeah Linda Hamilton was the was Bell or whatever the B equivalent character I know her name in that show probably um I've got Star Wars yeah he was like women would write me fan letters I want you and he's like I'm abusing her you know

that yeah his character I'm not saying Ron Perman I'm abusing L Hamilton she would not stand that is one woman who would not stand for it I reckon even pman she'd just be like I'll punch you in the [ __ ] dick mate have you seen Terminator 2 I will [ __ ] you up I certainly have yeah what a change have we ever talked about that the transformation between to one and two yeah yeah I know but they I mean it does start with her [ __ ] I know right but she must have been like I'm going to [ __ ] Action Hero great character development she goes from this kind of you know young yeah you know [ __ ] waitress waitress yeah to a [ __ ] military trained like command who knows

about the future like about it is she does sleep around a lot to get a lot of information and training [ __ ] that I feel implied in it jeez like she did [ __ ] a guy from the future her son's best friend do you think when they would when they were doing it when kyl Ree and her were doing it do you think halfway through he went oh [ __ ] I'm his dad you think he realized halfway through and then he went ah whatever yeah I'm in here now if Matt if you were [ __ ] any of your friends moms halfway through you'd be like does this make me his dad no but like literally yeah I know yeah who the original dad then

it'll be that post-nut Clarity when it comes to him yeah yeah yeah he wakes up in the middle of the night like oh [ __ ] yeah he's in the fridge getting drinking milk out of the coton like wait a minute but then he's like but he sent me here yeah did he know I'm just following orders did he know I was going to [ __ ] up wait he did know did he must he does he does know he does know when he was like you go back in time wink meet my mom wink I are you winking save my mom yeah you save a real good mate save her from virginity yeah and a Terminator virgin and a Terminator yeah yeah um I watched another movie this week because the other night I could not find something to watch and I started like

three different movies and turned them off I just could not find something to watch and I was like I literally started Googling what a good comedies I wanted to I just and it was all like these movies with Will Ferell I'm like no internet don't Amigos easy so stripe was on my short list right cuz I was trying to think of what movies have I already watched but not for a long time that I legitimately find funny and one popped into my head do you remember Danny this is my brain talking to me when you were 15 and the funniest movie ever made was National ampon loaded weapon one oh yeah and I was like I was talking about that the other week that was a good so I on was it Not only was it as funny it was way

funnier cuz now I get the [ __ ] jokes there are so many jokes in that movie that I never got before um I was just laughing at the dumb [ __ ] before now I get to laugh at that and all the in jokes Charlie Sheen's in it right his brother right in real life there's jokes about that John loveits is saying to him have you seen Hot Shots and he's like yes seen Hot Shots he's like do you think it's weird that Charlie Sheen's in Hot Shots and now you're doing this he's like they've got nothing to do with each other like there's so much meta jokes in there there's so many [ __ ] it's so good [ __ ] the lead [ __ ] character that's not a West Affairs is Samuel L Jackson I don't think I knew that at the time because I'd never seen him in anything no we were talking about um Tim

Curry yeah recently with some friends and I said have you seen loaded weapon when he's uh his girls just that Shatner's right hand man William Shatner I didn't even remember that and then I looked up I was like who else is in that it's I know it's amilio Estes and then I was like oh [ __ ] it's yes Sam Jackson so M the cast is incredible like and the cameos [ __ ] Bruce Willis makes a cameo really all right it is legit good I'm add that to my homework yeah I might need to watch this as well don't come back to meot is very funny too yeah I might watch that next actually oh we've got some not hot shots but yeah got some in the after party well let's go over there we've we've exed see some Star Wars news first well this is just quick this is just real

quick um somebody who's who beat us to the uh realizing that Star Wars is [ __ ] um apparently Deni Vu saw Return of the Jedi in 1983 and went they've jumped the shark I'm out yeah right I call [ __ ] and he he has no interest in Star Wars since then he said a Strikes Back is one of the greatest movies ever made and then he went and saw return the J and he went this is for kids but the thing is about Return of the Jedi cuz he's right but he's also wrong because half of Return of the Jedi is just as hardcore as Empire Strikes Back anything not on Endor hard cool like all the stuff with Vader and lug it's amazing the emperor stuff and like that [ __ ] is so good that entire opening sequens with Jabba is so good it's it's only the Ewoks that let

that movie down yeah and all because he made chwaca tooo good too good it was me to be a forest full of walkies originally that's right it was yeah right according to the stories that came out after where he had everything played out yeah no I bet it was just like do you remember the um Phantom Menace behind the scenes where all these artists are just drawing [ __ ] and he's got a little smiley face he just goes around stamping it on the ones he likes and then I'll put that in the script when I write it when I come up with better start writing the script I bet somebody said we want to sell some [ __ ] teddy bears and he was like give him a spear

then well yes that's why apparently didn't he was asked would you do Star Wars and he went no I would not he's French that's why and he does he kind of talks like this no that right it's French Canadian so you could say that that was nuanced yeah yeah yeah uh yeah I'd watch one of his Star Wars movies [ __ ] yeah well because from the sounds of it he'd make exactly the kind of Star Wars movie we want but he won't do it because he just knows they won't let him but with a lightsaber just go and superimpose some lightsabers into Dune and redo the score okay I might believe him now I I orig thought go calling [ __ ] cuz I thought I didn't not realize how old he was how old is he he's born in 67 oh

okay yeah okay so basically he was a decent age for seeing the first Star Wars movie when it came out then the sequel going that's even better and then the third one when he was basically by 20 by then going actually no this not that good yeah so like I I thought he might have been like a bit younger when it came out and gone no there's no way you would have okay all right well we believe him then but now let's go to the after party what's the after party where we're going to keep talking for another 10 15 20 half an hour 30 40 50 60 Minutes 3 hours there's no there's no limits in the after if you like this and you want more of it go to patreon.com multiple nerdgasm for uh for free you can sign up and get episodes delivered to You video and audio versions in your inbox for a

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it was just me I thought it was my pocketcast app so I deleted it assuming that when I reinstalled it it would just remember me [ __ ] didn't and then I had to remember all the podcasts I listened to yeah that sucks anyway so hopefully that's resolved the the solution was I turned that feature off and back on again and then like as in l I was at Thanksgiving at family's place and I I was like how can I try and fix this now and I just ticked the box and unticked and ticked the box and then it showed up so turning on and off it's a it's a system that works yeah yeah yeah so sorry about that everybody all right to normal hopefully now I'm turned on let's go to the after party and see if I get turned off again let's find out that's all for this week thank you

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