Artemis 2 is back on Earth after 9 days in space, and the crew broke records. Elsewhere: Amazon is having a rough week, RAM and SSD prices are spiking, Xbox Achievements are getting a long-overdue update and Karl Jobst has filed a new defamation lawsuit against Billy Mitchell. All that and more this week on (probably) your favourite podcast!
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- First photos of solar eclipse from Artemis II crew look almost too good to be real
- Artemis II astronauts break a record, name a crater
- Four astronauts are back home after a daring ride around the Moon - Ars Technica
- Amazon Issues A Stark Reminder That Digital Ownership Is A Lie
- Amazon Luna Removing Paid Games And Offering No Refunds
- Nvidia DLSS takedpwn
- Karl Jobst Files Defamation Lawsuit Against Donkey Kong Record Holder Billy Mitchell
- The AI RAM shortage is also driving up SSD prices | The Verge
- Netflix Ordered To Reimburse Italian Subscribers
- Segue - Podcast Planning
- Xbox Achievements Get Overdue Update To Address Feedback
- Spielberg: I Was Going To Do “Interstellar” - Dark Horizons
- New “The Mummy” Has A “Mummy” Problem
- “Alien 3: Assembly Cut” Hits HBO Max
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Transcript
Multiple. Nerd. Guys, just straight true wow. Yeah, we're trying something new. Matt's learning how to use the thing that we pay for to record this because I'm too lazy to do it. Yeah, basically, yeah. I was like the other day, I was like doing, you know, doing the edit and all the, the stuff that we do just pour together every. Week. Yeah. And I was like, I think, I think Stream Yard does most of this. We just don't use it. And I was like, that's pretty
stupid. Yeah. Use the tools we pay for. Yeah, because it's not cheap. We do pay quite a bit for this. Yeah. And it does do a lot. I know it does a lot, Just. Yeah, we've never really done it. No SO surprise new things and if anything sucks, let us know. Yes. Go to patreon.com/multiple norgasm, join the discord, let us know. Let us know so we've got a lot to talk about. This week we do. Where would you like to begin,
my friend? And I even added stuff. You did because this. Week. It's, I mean, we can reveal this to the witnesses. I've made something and it made it. It's made it easier for you to add things, which is really what all the barrier was was that usually you can't be bothered. Because I see stuff and I go oh I want to discuss that but they don't have to log on the Google Docs and paste it in there and it was too much of A hassle. Which this is sort of the same thing, but it feels different for some reason.
Yeah, OK, well, I've, I've built a tool for that kind of thing and I will it'll, it's public, but I'm not, you know, sharing much with it. But if people want to join the discord again, I'm happy to share it on there if people want to have a look at it. It's basically just a tool for planning a podcast. Yeah. And it's actually good. Make life a lot easier. Yeah, if for some reason I find this easier to go and add into the spreadsheet because I can just go and just quickly drop it in there. That's.
Literally the point of this was that I would do this too lazy, but I was annoyed because I would see an article. You're right, I've seen an article and I go, OK, I need to put this somewhere so to get it and things would slip through. And that's so I just basically this thing I built to make it easy. And it's. This is a lot faster than having to load up Yeah Google Docs every time. And I basically the all the features of this thing are the things that we need. So hopefully that will be of use to other people.
It's called Segway if you want to look at it. I'll just fucking announce it. Whatever. Let's go to Segway dot show and it's it's there. I'll link to it in the show notes. Why not? You know what? And I'll, I'll put it in here because I can do that. Yes, you can do stuff on the flight and then we can mark it as complete. Yes, segue Tosh. So that's times when we talk about stuff where we're going to add stuff to the show notes and then we forget about it.
Now that won't happen. Nope. All right. So what do you want to talk about first? I was thinking I guess now. Well, second, yeah. So we've marked that one off. It's done. I want to talk about Artemis 2 coming back. Yes. They splashed down. They did, they've done, they've done a lot that happened quicker than I was expecting. It didn't feel like 9 days did it? No, I was like, fuck, all right, they're already back, I guess.
Yeah, that makes sense. But. Yeah. And I mean, they did some amazing shit. They broke a record. They've been the furthest away from Earth anyone's ever been. Like even though a lot of people say it's not possible for them to go that far, a lot of the moon deniers and Flat Earth has got into Van Halen belt would kill them instantly. Knew you were going to know about this, all right. Because they say the radiation out there. Yeah, I know, I've heard that before.
But that's that's what the fucking ship is for. They're not just setting it about, they're in a convertible. Exactly. No, it's they've it's got, I mean, I'm not a scientist. It's got stuff in it to stop that and the. Amount of time that they're actually going through it is they're not staying there the entire 9 days. They're not staying in that radiation belt. They basically go through it. And then they, yeah, then they zoom around and. Come back. Yeah.
So. But it's the fucking photos. Yes. Oh my God, it's like, it's, it's so weird. Like I I still think it's weird that we haven't been back to the moon. In. What 50 fucking? Years now. The reason for that was basically it was a race back then and then. It's an expensive thing and everyone lost interest. Yeah, but now if you actually watched people, they were nobody like watching the watching the lending to over 2 million
people, just watching that. So people are interested again. No, that's cool. I'm glad because I mean, that means, you know, hopefully it'll think, oh, it's worth while doing all this stuff because yeah, I just think this is amazing. And you know, they want to build a base up there on the moon like. That's going to be amazing when that happens. I love it. So cool Photos are incredible. I just yeah, to finally have like photos with like. Modern. Stuff.
Not just the old I had around the. Side of the moon. It's just like fuck yes, like so good. But of course there are a lot of people out there claiming it's just all CGI and fake. Whatever. Yeah. You can't win. I mean, even this article I've put here, the first photos of solar eclipse from Artemis to crew look almost too good to be real. Yep. Well, I mean, yeah. They do look amazing. I know.
And then them two on the radio trying to describe, like just describe what it looks like and what it's like to do that. It's just like loss for words like, yeah, incredible. So heavy. So we've got Artemis 3 that takes off, I think next year, yeah. And then I think the moon landing's the year after that. 2028, yeah, yeah. So next. And I think there's two in the same year in 2028. I might be wrong about that. I think they're doing 2 that same year. Because I think one of them, lot
of them I think is actually just start looking at the getting stuff to land on the moon. Yeah, well, next year's one is unmanned and it will land, yes, but it's not, I think, people. I think, yeah, why have people? I think it's going to have stuff for them. Yeah, yeah, right. And then just to make sure it works, yeah. Make sure it works and then have stuff. And then because I think the whole plane, it's like that'll have stuff for them. So it means that there'll be stuff waiting for them. So they don't mean they can sort
of get more done, maybe stay longer. Yeah, Fuck yeah. Because they've only they've only ever done like a few days on the moon, haven't they? It's not like they stayed a long time when they got up there. It's you know what is. 2-3 days. What's the longest someone has been on the moon? It is 75 hours, just over 3 days. Yep. So yeah, it's. 30 I love you too. Same to you. She's saying happy birthday to me, it's my birthday. Oh, it is too.
Oh well, no, sorry, that was yesterday. Oh, true. What's that? Pardon. Oh, I will. When I finish talking to Jean Luc, I'll be out. OK. OK. OK. I'll have a nice surprise. All right, Bye. OK. Oh, she's got a surprise ready for you for your birthday. Yeah, so cute. Do you know what it is yet? No. Should you be worried?
I don't think so. It's probably good. Yeah. I'm almost positive I felt this story on the podcast right about the Scotch. Yes. Yeah, Eddie's favorite drink. Yep. I'd be surprised if she didn't insist on that, which I'm not mad about, but also if it's if it's not that, it's fine too. Yes, sorry, what were you saying? So we're just talking about like how long as someone has been on the moon, which is 3 days. Three days, yeah. Yeah.
So I think they're still setting them up to stay longer hopefully and get more done. Yeah, yeah, they'll be sick. They they broke a record that they named a crater. That was the other thing they did when they were up there. I mean, they did other stuff too. But the the crater thing was very emotional because it was named after, I believe it was actually one of the astronauts wife who died. And that's nice. Yeah. So that was that was an emotional. This is the first time we've
been around the dark thought and Moon hasn't it? You could get a good. So I think they actually put them extra training from geologists so they could when they were coming around, they could actually see things and. Yeah, because I know there's a photo and we've never had a photo of it before. Yeah, I believe. And there's a photo of it. It's the moon's butt. Yep. So no, that's super exciting. I can't wait to keep this going. Because then the next step is we build base on the moon, and then we start mining asteroids and we
start building ships in space, Yes. And then we go to Mars. Yes, that's the sensible option. Mars and beyond, mate. Yeah. Well, the second you're able to start building stuff in space, you're taking away a lot of that effort to get into space. Yes, that's the most expensive part I feel. And actually I was talking to Fred about this the other day. Obviously 233 US American astronauts, US astronauts, one woman, my daughter, when I we said, are we going to watch the launch and everything like that? I don't know.
I mentioned this the other week. We were like, oh, these are the astronauts. And she was like, oh, who's she? Right. Immediately more interested because there's a woman so anyone out there is wondering if if representation and. That is. Barely. It fucking does because she does. Instantly she was just like, who's that? And, and she already wanted to be an astronaut, but she's been talking about it because we watched the launch and everything like that.
And she thinks she and I are going to the moon soon. OK, She said. She said you'll have to come with me. And I said why? And she goes because I'm a kid. Oh. OK. You're going to be an astronaut. Oh, that's. Yeah, exactly. Well, the, the sort of thing is, is she does have a chance to go to the moon. We, we're, we're, we're out, I mean. She's got to get a lot of stuff done. Yeah, in the meantime, but even
in her lifetime it might become more of a accessible commercial thing. Yeah, even our late lifetime. Even perhaps. Like. Depending. Well, you look different. How we go, yeah. Yeah, But yeah, like, she's got a good chance. But if you look at even like air travel just now is more accessible than it was 50 years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's you. Know it's exponential. Yeah, so because I I'd love to go.
I'd love to go. Yeah, that'd be cool. I'll go, I'll go. I'll be your janitor for the guys who do the mining. You'll be you'll be up there. Roger Wilko from Space Quest. The janitor be quite happy to do that. Yeah. I do a shit job but. No pun intended. Well, actually, they needed one. The toilet didn't work. Yes, the toilet didn't work for the first few days so that's the shit in the bags. Yeah, no, I think that they they could shit in the toilet, they couldn't pee in the toilet,
something, Oh, I mean, I don't know the specifics. I don't see any footage of that. I noticed that the women astronauts have to train more to use the toilet than the men. Because they're stupid. No, it's because you can't pee and poop at the same time. This is an actual fact. I wasn't expecting you to say that, that's all. And for everything, for women, that is that it is. For men, that is facts. Yeah, yeah. All right. Space Facts. Yes, so oh. Dear.
But very exciting. We're back, but what else will we have on here? Well, less exciting is this NVIDIA DLSS stuff. People are not super into that, but there's been a development I see. There was a there was a funny thing. So an Italian news channel, this local news channel was showing on showing on the news and put it out there and then they went on. I reckon some intern got a bit click happy they went onto YouTube and start putting copyright claims on anything that used the footage even
though and they even took down the footage which they took it from. Right, so they took down Nvidia's footage. Yes. See, this can happen if you're not careful. Yes. Because yeah, when you put stuff up on YouTube where they have the content ID or whatever it is, yeah, you got to watch out for that. And because people get stung, musicians and stuff get stung too. Because if you don't do it and some other idiot does, it does, you can get screwed.
I had an incident where I did music for a game and obviously I did music for the trailer specifically and the, the developer had the trailer up on YouTube like and, and embedded in the Steam page too. Actually, it was, it was even worse than just on YouTube. And I was with a company at the time and I uploaded the music for, you know, copyright and registration and yeah, royalties, the yadda, yadda, yadda. Anyway, and they did, I didn't realize they were going to do it. They they did the content ID thing and it took down the
trailer. Yep. For the game and I got an angry. Call. Yes, you're. The developer. Sorry, sorry, sorry. No, that was not going to happen. I'll fix this. I, I, I was able to fix it. But yeah, it was very, it was embarrassing. But yeah, the they did what they were meant to do. But sometimes they do go a bit amazing. But in this case, I think nobody's crying for NVIDIA because people, we're not a fan.
Of this and it was only in Italy YouTube that this happened that got taken down. But I just, I just found it funny that yeah, yes, the news just went, no, we're taking everything down. Yeah, Yeah. That's funny. Yeah, Watch out for that. Yeah. But yeah, it's it's going to happen. Unfortunately, it is going to happen. Yeah. Oh, it doesn't. And like I said, people weaponize it too. But yeah, we got where did we
get a copyright strike on this show on It was on YouTube. We got one for. No, it was on Spotify. Spotify. That's right. That's why we changed the intro because even though we, I think we talked about this. Before, yeah, even though we paid for it. We paid for the music, but somebody's registered it now. Yeah. And because it's not ours, there's nothing we can do about it. Yeah. So. Because because the musical
using it's the music they use in Always Sunny like it's. Yeah, it's from a music. It's from a library. Dan bought it like fucking 10 years ago. Yeah, like, well, what can we do about it? Who do we talk to? Like I don't even know. No, there's actually a story of a photographer she actually donated a series of photos to. I figured what she donated it to, but she went like here, you can have these and then they started using the they sold them off to use the stock images. And so now she can't even post her photo that she took because
she donated to a museum or something who didn't sold it stock quote footage. So she's I don't have access to it. That's fucked up. And yeah, that's a bit wrong to on sell something that you were given. Yeah, well, that's, yeah, that's the catch to me too. Is that like, that's why I was like, oh, you know, you got to register them yourself. But then like I said, when you do that, like I discovered, sometimes he causes problems. Yes. But anyway, this isn't going to stop NVIDIA from releasing this.
No, Nvidia's going to release it. Yeah, the CEO is arguing that it's it's fucking great and that everybody's wrong so. Yes. Oh look, I can sort of see it for some older games. I can, honestly. Sure. You mean it makes them look like what you remember them? Yes. Yeah, I've dipped into an old game actually on that topic because I been playing, I'm playing June Awakening still. Yes. And I guess because I've been watching June Awakening videos,
the algorithm was like, you know what else you used to like Can you guess by Funcom? Conan. Conan. Do you want to watch Conan? You want some Conan videos because there's a bunch of new stuff in Conan. And OK, so I clicked on this video and this guy was like, Oh yeah, check out all this new Conan stuff. And I was like, oh, this does look good. So I installed it on the Xbox and I started playing it and I'm like, some of this stuff's not there or it's a bit different. I wonder if I could play it
through GeForce Now. Yep. So I've got it on PC now I got managed to find it cheap. OK tell me if I'm if this is a bad thing. I I checked this is a legitimate steam key seller right? OK you don't have to buy games directly on steam. There are legitimate third party sites that sell them. And I was able to get it pretty cheap and I I did research and they told me they were legitimate. You tell tell me now, am I? Am I wrong? I I don't know because some of them I don't even.
Want to say who it was just in case. But just in case, because there are some that will buy, basically, they know they're stolen. They know that it's a fake credit card. As far as I'm aware, these are absolutely not. It's just that they bulk buy them during the sale. I think that's how it works and it's not. It's not. There's nothing illegal about it. It it's just like a little bit. Yeah. Questionable because the the
Steam sale was just long enough ago that I didn't get Conan Excels on sale. Well actually seeing I may actually have a copy I could have given you. Oh really? I should have asked. You should have asked because I've got a ton of steam keys. Anyway, my point was that just that I, I got it on the PC and I was like, oh, I wonder what it's going to look like. So I put it in GeForce cloud, loaded it up and I put it in like the maximum video quality. And then I was like, oh, it looks fine. I forgot this game's like 15
years old. Yes, Yeah, sorry. Yeah. There's only so much, yeah. It's still good that they're still making content for it though. Yeah, it's still a fucking great game. It's addictive as hell, but yeah, so maybe this AI thing would make it look even more realistic. Yeah, that means I can get. I get full nudity now on the PC. That's the other because. For some reason it's the only one that had it. On the Xbox. Yeah.
Yeah, I think North America, you couldn't get it. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I know Dang couldn't get it at a time because you're he. He bought it when he was in Singapore, I think. Yeah, I bought it here, so. When I got mine it was just a free add on I got. It because Australia normally would have been the ones to say, you know, Dicks. Yeah, but no Dicks, tits, badge, it's all there. Yeah, on mine too now. Yep, and you can adjust the slider to see how big you want it.
Yeah, sure can. You sure can. Yeah, no, I got a surprise when I was the only one that sort of got it because yeah, you're right, Australia is very much. But Australia, since we got the R rating, have. Loosened up. Loosened up a little bit because you didn't use them. Yeah, I. Thought like how come? I mean obviously massive time difference between the two but how come Cyberpunk could have Dicks and vagin everything out but Conan exiles can't? Massive gap obviously, but why can't they hatch it in if if
things have changed you know? Like, I don't know, it was just, yeah, when I got it was just an add on that came with it. Yeah, I just wasn't, didn't buy anything further. I should check that, maybe there's a DLC. The DLC downloadable Dick DLD. Yeah, well now you're playing on PC, you can probably put mods on to change that as well. That's the other, that's the other thing. This guy had this UI mod that I was like, oh, that's sick. I can't do that on Xbox. So yeah, there's a bunch of stuff that I was like, oh, OK, and you can crank up, you can do
this on Xbox too. But when you play single player on your own, if you go to the server settings, you can crank up stuff like the how much you get when you mine resources and like, so I was like, oh, I can give it just a little bit of a boost. Because I speed things up a little bit just. Because I'm I'm one of we played it a lot, but we only ever played really early content and I'm watching this video. Fuck. We never did any of that. So I was like I. Want to the problem is just. Kind of get check out some of
the later game content. Anytime we made any progress they just reset our server. Yeah, that was fucking annoying. Yeah. And don't get me started. Yeah, E portal, Yeah, I mean, maybe G Portal's better, but, and it maybe it's not their fault either. The Conan service on G Portal though were a disaster. Yep. Look, we're paying for it and we're moving along. And then all of a sudden, just that reset to day one, Yeah. And it was a bug again. And oh, OK, don't worry, we've reset your server.
OK, where's all that stuff? Oh, it's gone. Yeah, there's nothing we can do about that. Yeah, sorry. You just have to do it all over again. Yeah, that pissed me. Off I think that's what really stopped us playing was the fact that that just kept happening. It's like, why bother? Yeah, that's why I cheated. Went and got all the achievements except for one. Speaking of your stuff being taken away, Amazon this week is the one doing the shenanigans with digital purchasing and reminding us all that maybe we
should be buying physical copies of things because two things, Kindle older Kindles will no longer be supported and they're just going to remove them from the registration systems and all that kind of stuff, right? So even though it's a perfectly working physical device with your stuff on it, if something goes wrong with it and you have to restore it, you can't so all. Your stuff is. Can you? It'll be bricked. It'll it'll be bricked. So you have to buy a new one. You would have to buy a new one to get you. There's no apparently if you're
a older Kindle. I don't know exactly where the cut off is the but an older Kindle. If there's a problem with it and you need to restore something or you need to connect it, you won't be able to download books anymore. Oh. You won't get new ones on there and if you ever need to update or restore it or anything like that. Just break it. It'll break it. So people are like, oh fuck, why? Maybe you don't buy a Kindle, but I don't know.
Defective devices include Kindle 1st and 2nd generation, Kindle DXDFDX, Graphite, Kindle Keyboard, Kindle 4, Kindle Touch, Kindle 5, and Kindle Paper. Like first generation, that's a lot. Yeah, and because Kindle Touch is on there, but like a lot of people don't like the touch ones and and I I got to say I had one that had the physical buttons and that was nice, but I don't know, it does bum me a bit that they took those away completely. Yeah, having the physical buttons is, I think, good, but basically any Kindle with physical buttons now, here we
go. You'll still be able to read the books that currently have downloaded, but you won't be able to purchase or download new books. If the Kindle needs a factory reset for any reason, it will effectively become bricked. So basically you need to make sure you download every single book you have now, because that's it. And just hope that that thing never has a bug, which they do. Sometimes they get fucked up and you have to reset them. It's happened a couple times to me. And then the way to fix that,
you should just go buy our new version of it, even though you had got a perfectly good working 1. Yeah, yeah, it's not good. And then the other one, Amazon as well. This one's arguably worse. Is that the Lunar cloud gaming thing? I I assume you've seen that it's like Amazon's cloud gaming service. Yeah, it didn't do well if I remember correctly. Yeah. So they're making some big changes in order to, it says, always looking for ways to better serve our players.
They're going to change the way they're doing things and if you purchased games on there, you will. They're going away. And that that's it, yeah. So if you purchased a game on Luna to be able to play on that, you will no longer own that game because it's going away. They're not doing that anymore. How? Is this making things better for people? I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but obviously people are furious about this. You've got until June 20, June 10th, and then all your games that you bought on Luna.
If anybody did buy games, right, maybe they just maybe nobody did. They're not worried about this. I'm sure somebody must have, but starting today, Amazon will no longer offer individual game purchases or new third party subscriptions. You'll still be able to play the games you bought on Luna for a little while. Then on June 10, Amazon is removing that feature completely. And all of the games that you purchased on Amazon will go away if you if you purchase them on there and if you don't have another way to play the games
that you. Purchase from. Like like Ubisoft, EA or whatever that you had linked, you won't be able to play them either. So what I'm reading from here you best off if you do want to keep using playing those games, you need to link to a third party account and you're you can play through there so you can. Still, you need hardware to play it on. Yes. Like where? What are you going to play this stuff? On Oh yeah, you were playing buying this.
You're buying this so you didn't have the hardware so you can stream it. Yeah. So you should out of luck unless you buy something else, Yeah. Unless or you wait for Ubisoft, EA or another third party service to start streaming, which they're not going to. Yeah. So I think. Ubisoft. I mean, I know Ubisoft are basically just letting Microsoft handle their streaming essentially on the Xbox and everything. Yeah, so I I'm, you know, I'm kind of I guess I'm using
GeForce cloud. The same thing could happen I guess. GeForce cloud, no way. But I just buy the games on Steam so. Yeah, you still own them, but you wouldn't the same thing, you wouldn't be able to play them. Right, I'd have to buy APC or something. Yeah, well, the future is streaming. Yeah, No, I did a cost analysis. If I spent, if I was to buy a PCI mean you'd spend what, 2 grand at least Yeah, yeah, that is 20 years worth of G Force now. Yeah.
So that just doesn't work out for. Me no. Because you have to buy a new PC every, what, 3-4, five years? Max, you don't have to anymore. No, I suppose, but like for gaming, right? No, even for gaming you don't really need to anymore. No. It's not like the old days where if you didn't upgrade your video card in three months or get new RAM then you might as well throw it away. You can't afford RAM anymore but. No, that's there's. An article on that in here too.
PCI had before this one that still runs fine and was running Boulder skate 3 beautifully, which you've got now is and that one's probably 10 years old. This one here I've got now is probably already 4 years old and still running completely fine. So it's yeah it's not like you need to upgrade as much You only have to upgrade if you want to run an ultra Max settings yeah but even. Well, in my case, if I want ultra Max settings I have to pay an extra 100 bucks a year. Yeah, but I'm not doing that right now. I don't play. You don't need Ultra Max.
No, no. Sometimes I think because I have an ultra wide program I haven't talked about this. Before I've. Got an ultra wide monitor and I can't play it ultra wide, but I actually don't like playing games like that. So it's more of, it's actually a feature for me is that it's just in the middle. Yep. The ultra wide is good for this because I've got show notes there, you're there. Other stuff I want to look at is over here. Yeah, that's why I've got set up that you're here and the show
notes are here, so I can just. Yeah, but you've got 2 screens, right? You've got. Three screens, no one screen I've actually taken. I'm now using it as a television and bedroom. Oh OK. And so the other screen is my Xbox now. So I'm actually only using the one screen for the PC at the moment. There you go. Too many screens. I don't know. Not not begun. Too many screens. Yeah, I saw.
That's why I sort of rolled back because I when I used to have three, there was a lot happening and I had to have something on all of them. And yeah, so I stopped that. Yeah, Speaking of the the the RAM prices and whatnot, the RAM shortage that AI is causing is also making SSD drives more expensive apparently. And as an example, a Western Digital Black two terabyte SSD used to be $173 in 2024, which was expensive. They are now $649. And then of course, with the upgrade, with the pricing going up on these, there's also going to be upgrade on just normal
hard drives. Yeah, just normal hard drives. Because if you can't afford an SSD, what are you going to do? You're going to get a hard drive. So there's going to be more demand there. Drive them up. Yeah, the four terabyte version of the Samsung Pro SSDs, which I think I've got a few of them somewhere in a in enclosures. I don't think I bought the Pro once, but anyway, they were $320.00 for four terabytes. They are now nearly $1000. Shit. As this is not good. No this.
Is not good. I mean, I'm not, I'm not an AI dumist, but I can't keep on. Like this can't continue, but from all signs they're not going to be slowing down on AI. They're doing stuff like Anthropic has said this week and people using open Claw that that thing, it's kind of like that. It's a bunch of tools. It's like an agent that can connect to your clawed or ChatGPT account and it does things on your behalf with the with the with the LLM Anthropic is saying now you're not allowed to use that on a normal Claude pro account, which is like the $20.00 a month 1.
You have to buy a like a a Max like account, which is like $100 a month because these things, these like agent things like open claw are just chewing through resources. Yes. And like people are like installing them and just doing dumb shit with them. Yeah, so. Yeah, but yeah, like it's, it's yeah. Price for frame, the water, the amount of water that they go through, yes. Insane. Yeah, yeah. I mean. Definitely, I've read somewhere
that like you asking like chatshu PT one question is like 5 litres of water. Yeah, I've stopped spanking them when when they do things for me. I used to be polite and I'd go thank you at the end and then a little you're welcome. And then I realized don't do that. First of all, it costs me usage because I've got limited usage because I'm not buying one of the Max plans I'm using. I've got the $20 one on Claude. And. That's enough for me. So this is This is why the AI will take over the world soon, because we're forcing ourselves
not to be nice to it. I know, yeah, it's going to get upset. Yep. Sorry it doesn't remember things. Oh, sure, it says. No it does. Trust me, I found that out yesterday. It depends if it they've made the tools now to have memories where it'll take notes of things but it doesn't remember in this in the true sense. Like the only reason it remembers those things is because it sends it every time. Yep. So it or it'll and you can go
and delete it. Yeah. But it doesn't actually remember like a person remembers. Like if you say something, it's in my head now and I can't not know it, you know what I mean? Yeah. Anyway, AIAI. RAM, yeah. So don't think about buying RAM or hard drive anytime soon. No, Fuck no, no. Which is, which is scary for what's going to happen with the Steam. Yeah, Yeah. Well. The AO Neo next to we've got. Yeah, they just cancelled it
because they weren't like we're not going to be able to give you what we promised with at this price point. Yeah, none of these side effects are good. No, but yeah, it's a shame. I was looking forward to a new Xbox. Yeah, well, the future is the cloud as you said, so. Yeah, but my Internet won't run well in the cloud. Oh really? God no, I forget how lucky I am got I got Gigabit. Yeah, I'm used to my Gigabit. They send me offers all the time. They're like, do you want that?
I'm like, no, no, I'm not changing, leave me alone. Giving me Gigabit. The price is locked. Fuck off. I'm staying here. It's. Nothing you. Same with our phone plan. We're on a family plan. I've actually said this on Jenna's parents. It's so cheap. I don't even want to say how cheap it is because someone from T-Mobile will hear and go and get it. It's so cheap. It's, it's like absurd. We get unlimited data for like
for nothing. Because. Grandfathered in because they've had cell phones with them for like God knows how long. And so we're on the family plan and and they apparently they call her all the time, Jenna's mom and they're like, oh, would you like to change your plan? She's like, no, stop calling me. I am never giving up this plan. Never, ever, ever. You made a mistake giving us this. Plan. We're starting up with it. The contract says you can't do anything about it. Stop calling me.
Yeah, too late. Yeah, see, I, I wish I was something like we don't really have family plans in Australia. We. Yeah, I'm sure. They don't do it here either. Now this is some very ancient thing, yeah. But even like it's quite expensive, just it's the data, Yeah, they the thing that they try and advertise of all free calls and all this, but no one cares about that. Everything. It's only the data people really use now, remember? When they used to charge you for SMS usage.
Yep, $0.20 per SMS that's. Fucking ridiculous. Cost them nothing. Yep. Well, that was that was how they made money. No, I know, I know. But yeah, just absurd. But at. The moment I actually I get like 110 gig but something but I do get to bank it. Yeah, OK. As well. So like when I go to hospital, I'm basically because everywhere I've got Wi-Fi most of the time. So I bank, Yeah, when I'm in hospital, I've got no access to Wi-Fi.
Oh really? Basically running just everything off go. To a better hospital mate. On the University Hospital. DSL connection. It's a University Hospital. I get what I get. Look at those teenagers looking after. You, Yep, popping me full of Special K. The serial. Yes, they're not very good at their job. No avenues, Netflix. Netflix put their prices up again here. I don't know if they're doing that.
Yeah, I think we all saw something recently. They've been ordered to in in Italy. They've been ordered to refund people because here we go. What is it? They allowed changes to be made without stating A valid reason in the contract. So yeah, Italy's, it's got some interest. We want to isn't a good enough reason. Yeah, some, some interesting interpretation of the law over in Italy, but they've basically Netflix has to refund everybody for a, for a price hike or two. Oh, subscription price increases
from 2017 to January 2024. That's a lot. Yeah. So as much as €500 each, wouldn't you love to get like that's a lot. Yeah. And what for Five Point? So for 5.4 million users to have to refund up to €500 each, that's a big hit. Yeah, yeah. Because you wanted more money. Because they're not making much stuff at any good stuff at the moment. So I think they're struggling to keep users like Stranger Things has come and gone. They've got Wednesday, they've
got Danny Go. That's what I know is on Netflix at the moment. Lyri's in the Netflix right now. I. Don't know. Danny's charging him. But as I keep saying, like a lot of shows I actually do watch the first season of they just come and cancel. Yeah, Netflix is. Yeah, that's the meme, is that they just cancel everything for some reason. Yeah. Yeah, quickly, but no. News for the Italians Let's. Go wish I could get a refund from them.
Yeah, because there are months that go by though I don't. Really know that's Asian. You get a refund and their subscription price has to go back to what it was, which presumably is like $10 or eight. I think it was 8 or $9. Originally, and then I have and then, oh, but I'll be very quick to come up with a new contract to go. Oh yeah, he's the reason. Of course, Yeah, yeah. But. Yeah, I think that will fix that loophole very quickly, but good on them. I take the refund. Because yeah, there's been
months I've paid for it and I've forgotten my habit. Oh, see, I, I've done a few of that. I think, I think, why am I talking like that? I think Discovery we get because it's got HGTV and stuff on there and we sometimes like to watch, you know, those shows, but like I just forget about it for a long time. And I was like, you know what, if we remember and we want to watch something, I'll just bump a month on it that time, yeah, rather than just keeping it rolling because at. One stage I found out I was paying for Apple twice.
What? Because I was paying for it through Apple, but then I'd also signed up through through Amazon or Paramount Plus. Oh God, and it I didn't realize that you've. Got to watch that, Yeah, and I'm sorry. That should just say I have an account and go no, you've got it. I saw actually that through so my Internet connection here is through Verizon and through my Verizon thing I can add on a bunch of TV stuff like Apple TV and Hulu, Disney, Netflix. This is like a package. And so I had to go in and do
some math, but they're all the AD supported ones and I don't like. That I pay money not to watch ads, Yeah. So when I did the math on the upgrades and stuff I was like, oh OK, no, it's about the same as what I'm paying now anyway. Yeah, like there was one time like my subscription to YouTube Premium that had dropped off and I hit play once and it was and straight away and I went, I'm fixing that right now because no. I'm always like oh do I need it? First time I see an ad I do need it. Can hate ads?
Ads are the worst, especially when they've just played the same ad over and over that I don't care about the. One that actually that annoys me is Amazon. Amazon again, because we have Prime and we get Prime TV and stuff like that. Yeah. And then they changed it so that you get ads unless you pay a little bit extra. Now that's like, yes, come on, I'm already paying you. Yes, and you're using them, which is probably why they want you to pay a little bit extra and it's not a lot extra, so no. It's not $3, but it's like,
still, it's just like little paper cuts, like. Yeah, it's not something to kick up a stink about, and you're actually just fine. I'll do it but it. Is I just pay $3 when there's something on there I want to watch like Reacher comes out or Night Manager season 2 or whatever and all right, fine, you can have $3 while I watch this and then. That's all you need. I have, I have gotten better. I used to just have them all and now I just go like what, 1:00 AM I watching at the moment? I will get that. Yeah, I have to check with
Jenna, but yes, same. Yeah, and because you can't share accounts as easily anymore either. No, they crack. Down on that, yeah. Yeah. There's the other thing. We used to just, you know, we'd get some Jordan, we'd get some, yeah, Parents had some, and we would just kind of like set up profiles on them. Can't do it anymore. No, they they definitely did not like that because that was basically you stealing from them even though you have that screen. Yes, I pay for that screen.
Why can I not just use the screens? It's like with Koi used KO to watch the football and to watch it in four Ki have to pay extra and that comes with two screens. But the standard only comes with one screen. So I want to watch in 4K but that second screen's doing nothing and I can't give it the Netflix. Is like that the Netflix to get 4K you've got to do the Max 1 which is like 4 screens and it's like we don't need that. We don't need that, yeah. Give us that in between thing. Yeah, look, there should be a way to work, like to work out, I
only need this finished screens and I want it in this resolution and it works at a price point there. Yes. Because you're making me pay for extra screens that I'm not using. So why I'm paying extra for stuff I can't use? They want you to pay extra. That's why I was about to say, why don't they have like a list of add-ons, like a couple of bucks, like yeah, OK, a couple bucks. No, because then you would just give them less money. Yes, they don't want you to give them less.
Money. They want all the money. Yeah, they care for all those good shows, all of them. Look, there's something that will be interesting to you and important under games Xbox achievements get overdue update to address feedback, which is interesting on of its own, but also because it implies that it's not going anywhere. Yes, it's definitely not going anywhere. Maybe, but it implies that they're not considering getting rid of them because they're taking action on them. But they do need to fix them. Well, they're doing some things,
I'm sure you are you aware of this? This. No, I haven't actually read this yet, so I'm interested in this. They've basically they've taken a bunch of feedback apparently and they're like changing the animations and the icon. You can hide games from your achievement list if you want to. I don't know why you would need to do that unless it's. There are. Unless you want my pony and me showing up. There might be some of that, but there's also there are people out there who like to only show off that they've got like.
Certain things. Certain things like they've completed all the games, they don't want to show off the ones that have got like no achievements or one. Of them is there's a new list that highlights 100% completed games. OK. I know people have been asking for that for quite some time, like the the platinum trophy that they have on, right. That makes sense. Yeah, Yeah. OK. Yeah, so I mean, it seems like it's not a huge bunch of changes, just a few little
things. I mean, the new animations do look pretty neat. If you see them down the bottom there looks nice because they were very like. Old school, Yeah. Like they haven't really changed in years like since Xbox One. Yeah, yeah. Pop up YouTube, who lost lawsuit against Billy Mitchell, is now suing him. Carl Jobs must be. Yeah, it must be Carl Jobs. Wait. Where did you see this? I just saw it just popped up as an ad. What Carl Jobs suing Billy
Mitchell he is for defamation. Oh, this is interesting. What? For some reason the worst legal drama on streaming platforms is getting a second season as YouTube and Kyle Jobs has filed A lawsuit with the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida against former Donkey Kong High School record holder Billy Mitchell, accusing the gamer and hot sauce manufacturer. I keep seeing his ads on Facebook. Billy really hot sauce. We don't. We don't get his hot, saucy. Yeah, I see him on there all the
time. Of unauthorized appropriation of name or likeness, defamation and intentional affliction of emotional distress. This is funny. I wonder if it's because Oh, because he, yeah, him because of him making fun of it. Because I think the argument is going to be if Billy could win against him for for saying shit, well surely he can win. Win against him. Because he did it to him. I mean, it's going to be his argument basically. The pullings point out a separate statement from Mitchell share in August 25 live stream
that claimed job scams he viewers out of two out of 200,000, adding actually adding he actually scanned his viewers out of more than $500,000, which he didn't He actually went out to it was. A misunderstanding. Well, no. Oh, but yeah, they're good. People did get upset with him though. Thinking I thought, I thought the way he handled that was good. So what happened was he said he's suing Billy Mitchell? No, Sorry. No. He's been.
Including Kim, yes, right. And people thought the lawsuit was about the cheating and yes, they were going to prove that Billy Mitchell was a cheater. It wasn't even remotely about that. It was about defamation. Yes, Carl said afterwards people got upset with him and he said I own that. I didn't do enough to clarify. And even though I knew, if yes, I knew what the lawsuit was actually about, I think yeah. I think the way that Karl talked about it did imply if you weren't, you know, following it too closely, that you might misunderstand what the laws.
Yeah. And people gave him money on the basis that they thought it was about the cheating. Cheating, which is where he might struggle a little bit with this. Yeah, I will say. I hope not. Yeah. Because I don't think even what Karl drops actually said should have won. I mean, we should have won off because basically he came out and said there's another there's another YouTube who basically he also was about another YouTube that Khodrop spoke about that went like he'd also sued this
him, but he backed down and then that YouTube to his life and a sort of he was sort of people that was saying that he he was basically claiming that Billy Mitchell was the cause of him taking his life. Yes, yeah, he said that, Yeah. But Carl Jobs told his viewers Billy Mitchell was responsible for that person's death was the crux. Of which which I don't think he actually said that. I don't think he did too, but obviously the court thought that. The court. Borderline or or they thought it was enough of a.
Yeah, but but there's even like things with Billy Mitchell where he made a joke about when he found out that he died, so. But I think to the problem, not the problem is The thing is you and I follow this. We know we've followed Carl for a long time. We've followed Billy Mitchell for. A long time. So we know the back story and stuff. I think the problem probably from the court's perspective, is that if you're a casual viewer and you watch this thing, what is the what do you come away with?
Billy Mitchell caused this person to die. Yeah, You know, the courts actually don't go in and look into their history. They only look at what's presented to them. So I'm not saying Billy Mitchell did. I'm saying that's what people would think. OK, Don't sue me, Billy. OK? I do not think that you you did that. No, I'm not telling anybody you did that, No. No, I'm saying that's what people may have thought. Yes.
Apparently Billy Mitchell referred to this lawsuit earlier on X and he said I look forward to winning best supporting actor. Again, very funny. Oh, it's going to be interesting. And what I can do now, Yeah. You're putting it in Segway. Putting it in. I just realized we should do that. I put it under games. Perfect. And make sure mine should refresh and show it in a second. There it is, The system works. The system works all right. So add the link in it just added
in the title I think. No other way around. Oh yeah, you're right. Oh, you put it the wrong way, mate. What are you doing? OK, that's on me then. I thought I clicked. I thought I'd put it in the URL hang. On let's try that. Nah, looks like this bug. OK, I found a bug anyway. Ignore that for now, I'll fix that afterwards. I'm testing it so I joined my drops. This is a good test. There's some news that I thought was interesting this week about
Interstellar. Did you see this? I had no idea this was the case. Apparently, Steven Spielberg was going to direct Interstellar for quite a while. OK. He and the screenwriters or yeah, Kip Thorne and the other screenwriters were working together on Interstellar for a long time. And then Jonathan Nolan was brought in to work on the script to write early drafts. No. And they said they were working on it. And then apparently Steven Spielberg said, I don't think
this film is for me. And. Apparently Jonathan Nolan said to him, if you don't want to make this, my brother will make this. Like he, he is, he's I've already told him about it and he is already like, is, is he? Is he going to make it? Because I'll make it if he doesn't make it. And then Spielberg was like, you know what? Let him have it. And actually that's really interesting because I always Christopher Nolan often is like the the the the genesis of his films was him sort of thing in
my mind. And so just to hear that he actually took over from Spielberg on this is interesting to me. Like he that the this idea existed before Christopher Nolan came along. I wonder if it maybe also had something to do with the fact that once Jonathan Nolan came in, he actually saw the script sort of changing to wait. He went, no, this isn't for me. And sure, Jonathan sort of got his idea, so, you know, his brother would really enjoy it. And that's sort of where the difference sort of came from. Yeah, maybe.
Apparently Christopher Nolan has mentioned this briefly in the past, like, as in earlier this year. But like, just, yeah, I don't think this was known before. No. So, yeah, interesting. It would have been a very different movie with Spielberg. I yeah, I think you're like, definitely. I mean, I'm sure. I mean, well, early Spielberg I love a lot. I don't know what he's doing lately. I don't know. Yeah. I wonder how this would have
turned out had he done it. There's there's for a lot of his movies are hit and miss for me. Really. Yeah. Like a lot of them. You don't like close encounters, right? No, I hate that movie. I like it, but yeah. Like a mountain out of Mashed potato. Who has that much Mashed potato? You like Mashed potato? I love Mashed potato, but who has that much? What's his name? What is his name? Oh, Guy from Jaws. Jaws, Yeah.
Who liked his name? That actor. Yeah, he had a lot of Mashed potato. Yeah, on other movie news, actually we've got a couple movie news things that are interesting. 1 is that the there's a new Mummy movie coming out, but it's not the Mummy movie that everybody is talking about. There's a Mummy movie coming out that is not the Brendan Fraser one. Oh, I want that one to hurry up and be made. Well, it is being made, but in between then and now there is there was already, before any of
that was announced, there was already a Mummy movie being made. It's like a reimagining of The Mummy and that's coming out and apparently people are so confused about it that the literally the marketing campaign for this movie, Lee Cronin's The Mummy, they've changed. It's called Lee Cronin's The Mummy. Now. This is not this is not the Mummy that you'll think it is. And all the marketing for it now says not starring Brendan Fraser. So to make it clear, they're literally tweeting once a week
at this point. It says here, unfortunately, it's proven a bit of a headache for the marketing department for Lee Cronin's The Mummy. It's gotten to the point that Blumhouse has gotten to the unusual step of making daily posts on it, reminding fans that Brendan Fraser is not in this movie. That's very funny. They and they're still going to get people who have got to go see it thinking it's complaining. We got to complain. That's just bad timing, yeah. But I mean, I mean, maybe it'll go well for them.
They'll get more people. They'll get more people in the door, but yeah. That's. That's really funny. It's going to be Brendan Fraser. Yeah, I think it's really funny that their official like marketing department is. Saying the. Mummy without Brendan Fraser like. No, we don't get the Brendan Fraser 1 to 2028. Yes, I'm so happy that's happening just because. So happy he's back. Yes. It was horrible. Agreed.
He's the one that paid for it. Yeah, when he. Came wrong. Oh, I thought he would pay for the movie. Yeah, good. I'm glad he paid for it. He paid with it with his career. Yeah, because he wouldn't be. Sexually assaulted? Yeah. Basically, yeah. Yeah, I know it's one. Of those things too, because. I know we've talked about this before, but like at the time it happened, what like 90s, early 2000s, I think there was, I think he maybe rightly thought people aren't going to believe
this like that. And because Terry Crews, I mean, people were like, like, OK, quiet down, Terry Crews, this is not about you. But I do think it's interesting. Terry Crews was like, assaulted by somebody, and he was. It's. A fucking Terry Crews, he's like an enormous man and then he was going to he was said they were at an event and he was like his wife told him just leave it because it's not worth it because. No one is going to. Believe. Leave. Yeah, yeah.
It's like you're a man. Like, who's going to believe that would happen? Look at you. Yeah, Yeah. And it's not worth your career. Like for Brendan Fraser, like he started. Off as a bit of a joke but his career was that's he was actually becoming yeah a bit more serious still comedy but he was true was on the up when all this happened yeah and then it got got nose dived because. Yeah, because somebody. I forget. I don't know who. I don't have you said who? Somebody.
Yeah, someone not with the Oscars. With another. Awards. Yeah, it was an incident and it was. An inappropriate incident with somebody in power. And he didn't just let it go. He pursued, you know, doing something about it. And. And then he got blacklisted for it. Yeah. Which is fucking shitty and I'm glad. Well, I was going to say I'm glad that's I'm glad we've solved that problem.
We probably haven't, but there's an exception that we have at least I think it's better. I hope it's better. I hope it is, but still we. Were talking the other day I think. After trivia about just like just, you know, that it gets slowed down now. But there was a period there where we were finding out that just every fucking actor that we love had been like, who's an old man to do stuff? Oh. Yeah, fucking asshole. Yes, like. All the men were asshole. Can't leave women alone.
Like and all the women were. Sort of forced into. Doing stuff to get their careers started. I know there was like a like an avalanche of it, just they're all a. Bunch of fucking knobs. Yeah, like who was it that like didn't want the? Intimacy coordinator. Yeah, no, I shouldn't be able to. Touch whatever I want. To touch, if I, if I feel it's going the right way, I'm going to do it. That's why we need the intimacy coordinator, because she doesn't want that.
Yeah, ridiculous. Yeah. And even like. If Mary Abraham like like his was. Just making jokes. But it's like you've been told mate, just stop doing it. How fucking? And I'm guessing he didn't get one warning. I'm guessing you've probably. Pulled aside a couple of times and because you wouldn't like, I assume you wouldn't. He he's a very famous. Well, you know. Renowned actor? Yeah, if he said if he did one thing wrong, you'd go, OK, we'll
give him a warning. Yeah, like you might. It must have been must have been multiple and like pulling aside. That he was told, they said he was told, and you just kept doing. It and it's just kept doing it. The fuck? How hard is it? And then even. We found out of like. Josh Whedon when he. Yeah, and he's and he's an interview. Like he deserved. It because he couldn't get these girls in high school. It's complicated because when I heard about it I was like, oh, I
guess it's maybe. It's a grey area. But then that interview he did was such a fucking disaster. Like, Yep, hearing him talk about it's like, Oh no, OK, I was watching a bit of Buffy this week. And it was actually quite sad because two of the stars are dead now. I know somebody posted on Reddit. If you put the DVDs, I forget which DVDs, one of the DVDs, the menu is Xander and Dawn, just up there in the clouds, like yeah. Yeah, they used to do those. 90s DVD menus. It's just they're floating up in
the clouds looking like ghosts, and it's like, oh, God, yeah. Yeah, no it. Was actually yeah, like because. Especially with Dawn, like she was our age. Dawn. Dawn was younger than I was. She was 39. When she died, I think. That's not our age mate. OK, I can believe. I'm on the phone, especially when muffy. Was on TV, that was that would. Have been significantly younger than us yes all right I know what you. Mean but. Who was the closest to our age?
I think Elijah. Dishku is the closest to. Our age, I think, I think she's like about our age. I think she was because she was young. She was young. When she started though I think as. Well, I think. Yeah, she's 45. She's she's OK our age. Although I'm technically today older than her just today and I'm and I'm she'll catch up. I'm technically younger than her. That's. True. All right for the.
Next two weeks. I think Allison Hannigan was the oldest, which is I've always. Thought and she oh wait, was it charisma cut? Was charisma cut the older? I don't know, I think, but I don't think Allison Hannigan was significant. Charles was the oldest. Yeah. Uh huh. Anthony Stewart Head. Yeah, the other film news that. Interested me this week is that the Alien Three assembly cut just is on HBO Max now. They just put it up, which I thought was very interesting and also I thought was interesting
because I like that version of Alien 3I. Like Alien 3. I think, I don't know why, because I saw it when I was young. I know it's controversial. People don't like it. I think the the worst part about that is this. They killed. Off characters that you just spent through an entire movie, sure. But when I was a kid, like I mean, when did this? It didn't. Matter. Yeah. Alien 3.
Came out in. Early 90s What it 1992 I was 12. Right. So I didn't watch this when it came out. I watched it later, yeah. And I basically watched all of them. I watched all three. I didn't question it because that's just how it was. I mean, there was no period where I was like, was that a time when you didn't pick movies apart? That. Well, that too, but but also like. Now I, you know, if a movie is going to come out and it's a
sequel to a movie you loved, you've got these ideas about what's going to happen and all this kind of stuff. And then you you go, OK, that's not what I wanted at the time when I was a kid. This is the story, yes, I had. There was no questioning it. It's like that was it. Also, we probably shouldn't have been watching. It at that age anyway. No, I definitely didn't watch it in 1990. Two, I watched it later I remember watching Aliens when I was I watched. Aliens. When I was too young to watch
Aliens. Yeah, I was. Probably several right when I watched Aliens. Aliens and RoboCop I remember both of. Those I watched when I was too young to probably watch those movies. RoboCop, I think, was RoboCop. Was definitely too young, but there's only two scenes in that which really freaked me out. Yeah, on the death, the murder of. Murphy. And then? The other one where that guy gets covered in the goose and then.
Just splattered against the van. That's apart from that anyone can watch it. Good movie, great movie. Very funny. Actually, I I even as a kid I thought it was. Funny, I was just very disturbed by some of the violence. But yes. But yeah, the assembly version of Alien 3 is very good. It's different. It's got scenes added back in, it's much longer and it's got the alien gestates in a cow instead of a dog. And so it's got that's how it was originally supposed to be in the script and everything like
that. It's basically it's more like what Fincher wanted it to be before they took it off him. I don't think I've seen this version. The only problem with. It is I. We did a rewatch of Alien Aliens, Alien Three. We didn't do Resurrection, I don't think, But I said to Jenna the assembly cuts really good. She'd never seen Alien 3, and so she lost the Assembly Cut first. And she fucking hated it. Because it's it's long. And it's. Like I think it, I think it's better, but I think you have to
be into it to like to like it. Maybe like it's more of a sometimes. I feel this about old. Movies in general, is that like, I like these janky versions of them because it tells me more about the movie and the creative process and the listing the things we're going to go and all this kind of stuff. Whereas if you just ever seen a movie before, you just want to watch a movie, it might not be the best Yeah, you to watch it the first time. That's that's especially it's harder with showing someone older. Movies that you grew up
laughing. Yeah. Yeah. Like introducing. Someone to that because we grew up. Watching this like this, she didn't like Highlander. I put Highlander on and I'm like. I see the jank, yes, but we grew up with that and that's. All we had and we loved it. Well, like I said, you didn't question it because that's the movie. Was, and there's no concept of how a movie was made. When I watched Highlander, I didn't think about that shit.
It was only later. Oh, I did start. Watching Alien Earth. Oh, this. It's very strange. Yeah. Also the start opening of it. I was quite confused. They come out of Chi like Chi asleep. Yeah, crazy. We have Chi asleep to have something to eat. Yes. Talk about Prodigy. And then go back to sleep. I don't remember that four months from Earth they just wake up 4. Months from earth and go.
Oh, we're four months away. Talk about this other prodigy just to lay the foundation that there's another company and then they go back to sleep. I don't remember that, but yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm of all the. Things that annoyed me about it, that's that'd be on the list, I suppose. But no, yeah, I'm just up to the part where she's got in to rescue her. Brother and just met up with him and yeah, OK. Oh, so you're a couple of episodes in, right? Yeah, Oh yeah, just. Was not what I was expecting. No, it was very, it was very
popular. It's not for me. But yeah, Freezing 2 is coming out. Yep. Peter Dinklage is going to be in it. Yep. So I mean, he's in. Everything. So whatever I. Don't know, I know James Cameron like Daily NI mean it does do something different. I just don't think it fits in with my idea of the others. No, that's a me problem. I guess if other people like it, fair enough, but it just doesn't fit with my concept of that.
Well, neither does Alien VS Predator, as we've talked about ad nauseam. So Yep, like I like the last Alien movie. What was that one? Romulus. Romulus. Romulus was good. It was. All right, pray. The other like, Oh no, pray was predator, pray was good, Romulus yeah, pray was great. I want more of that Predator Badlands. I didn't like Romulus. Is all right. It had some stuff in it that I was like.
The ending got a bit weird. I I. Don't think we don't have to. Do this again. I'm sure I talked about this at the time. I didn't like the ash. Fucking CGI ash that was too. Weird. You don't. He didn't. Have to be in there. Androids don't all have to look the same. It was like not necessary. I didn't think it was necessary. It could have, yeah. It didn't. Have to be there. I think that was just to try and
throw back. And oh, the ending. Actually, the ending I didn't mind so much I like. Because I like Prometheus. Yeah, I don't know. I just got a bit weird when it's that. Huge weird looking thing. And I know. Yeah. But you know where we can discuss this more? Or maybe other things? What? Yeah. Who? What? Where, Why? How we?
Can continue discussing this in the after party. What's the after party, Luke? The after place where we're going to continue talking. For another 10. 20-30 minutes depending on how we feel, where we will, and to get there you will need to go to patreon.com/multiple Organism and give us some money. This is the only thing we don't give you for free. How much money? The first one was $5.00 a month. 5-5 dollars. USI guess we should clarify people have. Said before it's not $5 where I live.
OK, fair enough. It's $5 where I live because and. And you do get all of the. After parties, not just from when you sign up, you get them all. So there's a lot there. There's hundreds of hours there. Yeah. Oh yeah, yes, if you for some. Reason Want to hear us talk for hundreds of hours? That is a place that you can do that, yes, but that's where we're going to go now and continue. Talking now for us also, things are going to be a bit different this week.
Oh. We're actually not going to have to end this. Recording and then do another one and. Then do another one. So OK witnesses, you're not going to notice much different, but not we are we are. All right. I will end this recording. Now bye everyone, bye. Love you. That's all. For this week, thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show.