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Luke is single handedly keeping the Xbox 360 alive! This week we discuss Alan Wake, GTA 6, Madonna, Trump, Driverless Racing, Furiosa and a lot more!

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sort I dwarfing something yesterday what was that oh yeah yeah I'll talk about it later on the show all right let's start oh that can't be the opener bigot welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All Things nerdy so as you know I've got on a bit of an Xbox 360 kick lately um I did something stupid

yesterday I brought 36 no I brought Lego Batman 3 Beyond goth B on dis all right okay playing it why is that stupid it sounds like something you would do yeah that does was enjoying it I had my Xbox 360 vertical I managed to knock it over and scratch the [ __ ] out of the disc oh how' you you knock the disc got scratched while inside the machine or you knocked the machine onto a disc which hadly I was enjoying it and it just and so I had to go out today and buy another copy of it I was enjoy you scratched it that mention yeah and you incredibly loud in a way that will annoy you when you hear this okay so I'm just mentioning it to you cuz oh you bought another copy brought another

copy wow Jesus I now have two copies it was okay it costy five buck you have you have two cases yeah yeah it did just this perfect ring and yeah where did you get them from um there's a secondhand games place called um CeX oh yeah just went online and went do you have this and I went yes and I picked it up I got like six games for like 19 bucks all right for the Xbox 360 yeah yes I say that's all right yeah there's a reason for that I must say though I'm also playing Xbox 360 game at the moment but I'm playing it on my current Xbox but I'm playing Fallout New Vegas which is [ __ ] great yeah I put it on for a on a whim and now I'm legitimately playing it like it's so

good uh and I mean the slight slightly vintage style to the graphics is hardly a hindrance at this point really um yeah it's just so [ __ ] good and I can't bring myself to go back and watch the show CU I'm just playing the game now it's it's the game is so much better than the show you're living the show I'm in there I'm in there but I must say I do get a little nostalgic because you get all of like even your signing and stuff when you play an Xbox 360 game MH is is the old signin animation and stuff it's very cool I'm getting very nostalgic for 15 years ago the olden days so old well is it's what is it

three generations ago but it's not old enough that you can't still get games for $5 so that that's right that's interesting right but it hasn't quite gotten there I got some games oh no no no no depends on the game there are some games cuz I also got Sherlock Holmes Versus Jack the Ripper that was $22 oh um the reason why I got that is because I unlocked achievements in ages ago but never finished it so I wanted to go and get all the achievements in that but there are some games that are like $50 to $100 it just depends on the game just Lego Batman just I don't know if there's lots of copies out there or I think it just Rarity when you said Lego Batman 3 I was like I don't know which [ __ ] game that is I didn't know there was a two so right yeah is there this is

a this is a naive question maybe but was there a Lego Batman movie yeah two of them actually the there was he was in The Lego Movie and then there was also a spin-off Lego bman it was just about Batman I've not seen any of the Lego movies yeah it all right yeah kind of how I feel there's also a ton of just Lego movies out there that aren't like the big Blockbuster ones but oh sure of Star Wars ones and they okay independent Lego movies they're amusing a24 they're ridiculous but Lego people killing and [ __ ] each other playing this actually may bit upset because there's no new Lego games on the horizon and

that's Alex Garland's Lego where all the Lego men turn against each other and just [ __ ] start murdering each other they just they just turn against the women Matt they just turn against the women his last movie was literally just called men it was just about how we're all really dangerous well his new one have you seen his at the trailer for his new one I [ __ ] have mate it looks good yeah yeah looks all right no I'm looking forward to it too close to home for me well literally oh sure literally yeah yeah I felt men was a little too close to home for me and I don't even abuse women seen men I should it was very good no no no it's the least the least goodove me to abuse some women yeah no that's if that's the way you're going to paint me Alex garet I'll just

abuse women then fine the last I'll be the monster you want me to be and I'm going to be annoyed if it wasn't him because I in my head that it was him was devs that was him right was that somebody else no that was yeah okay yeah okay that was great and that was so good that it annoyed me because I'm like I'm never going to see anything oh no of course that was definitely him because the girl from that was the girl in XM yes yes definitely but they they' made one of the most attractive women in the world the least attractive you could possibly make someone and I just don't know how they did it yeah yeah it's the power of directing what be making making beautiful woman let's do it again but

hideous do it like a boy would do it I I played a game uh an Xbox 360 game technically I'm not playing the Xbox 360 version of it we talked about how I finished Allan Wake I've now finished one of the DLCs and I'm okay started on the other one Luke um I just want to mention that you were overselling it when I when you said we could do it in one gaming session your gaming sessions are clearly much longer than mine yes I think we knew that anyway yeah yeah but I just wanted to confirm it took me three sessions I guess to finish the first DLC I'll say this I'm probably not going to play the second and I'm probably not going to finish the first because by the time I was just out in the woods shining my torch and shooting

uh fing Shadow People I thought to myself this is this is why I didn't want to go back and play the first game again quite a jump up in difficulty yeah yeah like I I played it on easy as well and it like was no noticeably harder just more enemies more cruel with the uh like they'll literally just emerge like right next to you sure and and stuff like not the part of the game I wanted more of no I didn't want more of the silly tedious combat that's not what I wanted it does include things that so I haven't played two but I know certain things about two because I know I saw this I haven't watched it but I have queued up a GDC talk about it I want to watch when I when I have played it and things you've mentioned and things I've absorbed through media yeah

and there are certain things that are in Allan Wake 2 that I've now seen in the DLC that weren't in the main game yeah because and I don't know if this is the dark place is not mentioned in the main game but it is in the DLC yes they mention oh here I am in the dark place he also has a conversation with Thomas Zayn and I didn't realize that they had been so explicit about Thomas Z in the first game because in the second game they are very explicit very yes he just got his dick out yeah well not that kind of [Laughter] explicit okay well yeah I found the first one I mean yeah it wasn't as fun as the game the main game but I'm like well [ __ ] it I'm I'm here doing it and if I don't do them now I will never ever

play once I stop and I start playing two or something else that's it going to be your pallet cleanser yet um I maybe I also installed fallat New Vegas and I also I don't know why something maybe because I saw another one of the newer ones on sale on the home screen or something like that something triggered my memory of how much I enjoyed ghost reak on wildlands yes I did not expect you were going to say that sure and I I I didn't think you I didn't think you would uh so I installed that and maybe I'll have a cheeky little go of that yeah that game was really fun for some reason yeah I loved riding around on the bikes for

some reason I just enjoyed that the gear on the bike get a helicopter murder people then ride off again speaking of riding around in vehicles this is a segue but Luke did you see the um the guy who got a w rap done on his uh cyber truck no if there was anything that was going to convince you to get on that waiting list that never G to come waiting list maybe this would be it well yeah I think they've already announced they're not coming to Australia oh really yeah they said don't I've never I've still not seen one in person I know that there are some in R Island but seen one okay yeah I don't I've seen people in general are now [ __ ] as as a as

common as a Holden Commodore yeah like I think I think think it's just because like the orders are just they're now just starting to all the people who ordered years ago they're finally here and they're just and lots of wise you know the really the chunky one lots of them I find them quite ugly to be honest I think the y or all of them no the why in general but I mean soor the Y specifically but in general I'm not like if I going to buy an EV it wouldn't be a Tesla it would be a Tesla now I think no there's two there's a lot of there's better options now yeah the poar which is what Volvo call their EV range are the most beautiful car I've ever seen in my [ __ ] life I saw a bunch of those in Scotland actually so I bet there are

hell lot cheaper in Europe colors that they have available in like everyone I saw I was like oh that's a cool color yeah and like they've got a gray like a powder finish that's just [ __ ] it's not matte it's but it's not gloss either it's just I know what you mean there was like a Bluey like a like a dark blue like all everyone I saw I was just like that's that color even the the Plain White and the wraparound LED lights of the back it looks like a spaceship from the 80s yeah they're cool I think everyone wanted to begin with because that they were the first they were the first that was good and then everyone else is sort of caught up and Tesla sort of dropped back quite a lot I don't think they really yeah and musk didn't help out by ruining his own public

Persona yeah I yeah a lot there's a lot of um car brands that I see now that when when I remember you know when we were growing up there were Brands like say hunde or kia people would turn their nose up at like oh you know like you know like Korean cars or whatever [ __ ] beautiful cars the new car I remember seeing the headlights for one and going oh what's that a [ __ ] Kia what growing up get a Japanese car or an Australian car everything else could hold like a Honda or a or a toyot otherwise everything else was [ __ ] yeah but there's a guy who parks next to me at the gym with this [ __ ] sleek black sedan that's got no badges on it uh it's

just all blacked out and I had to peer in through the window and look at the badge on the steering wheel to even figure out what it is and it's one of those Kia I think it's called the Stinger uh yeah right and it's just [ __ ] beautiful to behold yeah the headlights on them like catch my eye all the time I go I oh [ __ ] those things look great yeah yeah very cool yeah lots of good options now I mean I don't think those are electric actually are they some of them are they they do they do have they do have an EV range but even their even their fuel based like their EVS sorry EVS their SU s like if you forced to get a family car like even the Sportage which used to be the ugliest thing the late model Sportage is really cool

looking like they've completely revamped it the only thing I'm sad about is I'm probably never going to get get like a new manual car ever again they just not thing I'll have to fake it I'll have to fake it for the electrics yeah well do you know you know the Supra that came out the 2023 Supra didn't come out as a manual it was Auto only now if you're buying a Supra what's the point yeah the people that are buying Supras don't want Auto or maybe they do now a lan Evo like don't Lan Evo Auto why bother who's gonna buy that think well it's like the um was it one of the muscle cars was it Mustang or something did the EV but they still put the [ __ ] engine sound through a speaker yeah it's fake yeah I think you can shift and it just goes yeah nothing's happening not doing

anything yeah well well since we're talking about cars let's stick with car let's go to car racing I want to hear you talked about car racing for a little Matt did you um did you watch did you watch uh uh Monaco you know I did you know I did I wasn't sure if you did that's why I didn't M we normally don't yeah we normally talk about it pretty quick but we didn't but that was a happy day for yeah yeah happy happy day for yeah for you and for Char for yeah in his hometown and for Ferrari won the Monaco Grand Prix for the first time but they might be at a job soon is what you're saying Luke well drivers I don't know maybe evidently they now D I mean the reports are this was boring which doesn't surprise me oh was it just everything was just so good

I thought it was going to be it was well it's just not like the same and I can understand so what this is these are autonomous it's called the uh the Abu Dhabi autonomous Racing League and these are um I mean they're not Formula 1 cars they're super perform because I assume these are all electric um which is moving towards shape as a formul they look yeah and they're not um the other thing they said is to the it's not not don't mistake this is like AI or anything it's it's more just like um big autonomous vehicles with cameras it's hard to explain people I guess people don't really understand the difference like they're not smart they can react to things but within certain parameters it's not like able to you know think a you know I've got to finish this lap you

know faster oh I'm coming up behind what just it's literally just reacting I'll let I'll let my my teammate go ahead so that I can yeah right yeah I'll crash into him that's of Monaco humor for you I thought it would actually be like they were racing not just so they would be trying to push and not I mean they are racing they just don't know they're racing yeah it's yeah so I don't know but and like I said from all reports it was um it was interesting in a way but I mean it's a b bit boring and because the human in there is part of the appeal for me anyway right because it's about human reaction time and the and yeah obviously but but um the um you know like the g-forces they have to deal with it's all very like there's a whole aspect of it that just doesn't exist and a danger

like it's a dangerous sport yes yes when they crash it's like oh [ __ ] like that a couple years ago when Joe slid upside down into the [ __ ] barriers it's just a it's element that's just missing when there's no yeah for some reason in my head when I saw this in article I think it was going to be like a lot more like CL its computers and they'll be taking more risks so you'd be getting more out of it and sure maybe more accidents because they are pushing to try and I think what they need to do is add back in cool robots as the drivers you know SAS robots to drive these things and that do press afterwards yes that would be yeah yeah I'm going to smash that [ __ ] to smiing yeah yeah cuz that's another thing that's good about Formula

1 is because they're so [ __ ] like high on adrenaline they're always funny afterwards when they talk to them yeah like it's a whole other like aspect of it that I find amusing uh yeah so I don't know this seems cool like this is cool no doubt but it's just not like I don't think this is going to be like a spectator sport or anything I think the phrase they don't know they racing I don't know why that just stuck in my mind Matt because obviously machines don't know they're doing anything like my washing machine doesn't know it's washing my clothes does it or does it right but these are the questions that I feel like going start coming optimizing with AI which makes me off every time I every time I turn mine on it goes optimizing with AI I'm like the [ __ ] does that mean

turn the water on I follow this futurist on uh I saw him at a conference once [ __ ] decades ago I've been following ever since but he posted something earlier today that just said this is last chance to buy a computer that isn't going to be learning from you with AI yeah yeah because Apple's about to announce a bunch of stuff at WWDC no doubt they just part with open AI so no I think with this racing I think once it is AI I think it'll be more interesting yeah and I do think I think you're right Dan if it was like a it had personalities if they gave them personalities that would like change everything speaking of personalities I faces little faces on them even just little like LCD screens with faces that would be good yeah cuz that's that'll remind me of like video

games in the 80s when you're racing like a futuristic thing and you get the dri talking robot that's coming at you and yeah get that yeah you know what you're right this and and they should be making this more like say wipe out 2096 then you know what I mean like there if this is all electric anyway have [ __ ] boosters and stuff on the road that when you drive over them it like shoots you at Double speed and stuff well they have boosters for the E that's why they need to do more of formula yeah Formula E annoys me yeah like you come up to a corner and if you take a corner like a particular way instead of taking like a Best Line you might take it outside line and because you took the outside line it gives you a booster that you can then use later in the

race mix it up see that kind of stuff is cool but then they also do dumb [ __ ] where like they get fan boost where the the driver who gets the most engagement on social media gets like a little boost they can use and I'm like that's [ __ ] that's so that's ridiculous I just can't believe that that made it past like some boardroom like what it's a terrible idea in my opinion like the boardroom is where dumb ideas like that are given birth Matt that's that's exactly that's not a sport for me it means contest yeah for me they're not taking that sport actually serious yet themselves to having the fans can that's do that yeah well that's why I was reading up on it and I was like I don't want to watch it it doesn't it's lost me now it's not you know yeah the whole idea of getting

everywhere else like going that different line to mix that up it's not just everyone doing the same thing that's gaining them for skill yeah gaining them for skill or risk I think is cool like you take a risk you do a you do the not optimal thing yep you get a reward fine but I think doing it in it getting it from something that has nothing to do with the race are you stupid just because you what I take it back don't make it more like wipe out make it more like Wacky Races if you recall that game Mutley no no not you remember wacky no wacky Wheels not Wacky Races the C wacky Wheels remember the Dos game wacky Wheels where you you could you could collect Chipmunks and you could do oil spills and stuff it was basically Mario

Kart but before Mario Cart oh yeah it says here too that they um because people were asking can you can humans race these things like against them I mean there's no oh I see right like and so apparently they've done that as like a like a like a test thing there was like a Lamborghini hypercar driver Daniel Kat he raced alongside one of these things um but it was very controlled because they said it could just [ __ ] crash into you so if they if they've typed in win at any cost yeah exactly yeah it's not like a suddenly the driver of that car is being used as a battery to power his engine usually you can assume unless it's Nicholas

latifi that another driver is not going to Swerve into you randomly we can still stick with the racing and just go onto stealing cars now sure who's been stealing cars well Grand Theft Auto six oh sure yeah so we the we know when it's coming out but I don't think it's officially been announced yet it's coming out next year M think it was in part of their like earnings call or whatever that Financial thing they've gone it's happening here yes but there was a question about the thing that amused me about this was the CEO of Take 2 Strauss zelnick was asked when is it coming to PC yeah right and this is this was his answer right I'm just going to read this for batim well the lack of an announcement

is not something that could be set in stone as near as I could tell because the only thing that happens after the lack of an announcement is an announcement I suppose or a continuing lack of an announcement I guess that could happen too it doesn't seem to me that either would be set in stone but Rockstar has an approach to platforms which we've seen before and they will make more announcements in due time I do believe that the right strategy for our business is to be where the consumer is and historically what this company has done is address consumers any where they are on any platform that makes sense over time okay yeah you know what stra you need to go out there and you need to confuse this [ __ ] out of there so the [ __ ] he he he know that's

one of the things he knows it's happens but he's not allowed to say anything yeah that's say that just yeah that's that's him trying to like not answer question hon guys I I can't say they've done it with everything since Grand Theft 4 so funny I think three as well like releases on Console they don't say anything about the PC release then a year later it's now it's coming to PC it's yeah how it's work could have just said we're not ready to announce anything yeah it's just that that whole Spiel was just so weird oh yeah he just said like no comment yeah yeah I mean he basically did just in a thousand words don't worry at no point was there not going to be another [ __ ] Grand Theft Auto just wait and we'll tell when it's coming out I do

love this though the only thing that happens after the lack of an announcement is an announcement I suppose or of an announcement I guess I am looking forward to it because I remember when the leak came out like the graphics that were not the the graphics looked amazing it just looked played like crap but it looks like they're going to be pushing these consoles to the limit which is what they do yeah I I mean I just I just gave up on these games a long time ago GTA I will admit yes they do look very impressive and it's a shame like them because they're I'm just not 25 anymore yeah I mean Red Dead Redemption 2 I enjoyed and then still didn't keep playing it's yeah GTA 5 GTA I feel like

I played a lot of five lost interest too like I loved Vice City and I loved the play the play style of San Andreas but I hated the character and I hated every character I was interacting with and I think that's my problem with the GTA is just I'm like okay another [ __ ] hanging out with other [ __ ] like just not interested well that's the problem like you're playing a criminal they're not going to have a nice guy criminal that's not how that works yeah it's true I suppose well it's yeah just not for us I suppose yeah a tortured riter in his own I know yeah yeah using cups of coffee as an energy boost I'm going to play the crap out of it when it comes out actually the

game I'm actually looking forward to with they finally just announced finally is Test Drive Unlimited the new test drive limited which I think it's set in a I forget where it's set this time the last ones was set like on a Hawaii Island which was like a one to one representation of it oh really and there chest solid Crown which is coming out and I don't know the test drive games are fun it's just driving they were always fun I like the um forsa Horizon games I think they're amongst my favorite driving games CU like yeah and they set because they're set in places particularly I like there was one that was in like Scotland which I likeed because it's not accurate but there's like places I know yeah like no you you drive down that Main Street you

go I've I've walked down this street yeah yeah I've walked it's not accurate but it's familiar is there one said in penth there is not recognize that but I think I was watching um I was watching welcome to rexam and there was a bit where they say it's the mayor of rexam saying that like how how the things the the the morale in the town has improved because people would used to say I'm from outside Chester if they were from reom and now they say from RE from outside rexam when they're from Chester kind of thing to Jenna I said oh that's like when when we always used to say oh we're from Western sydne syney no one wanted to say we were from penth penth yeah it's true yeah from Western Sydney oh New Town sure sure no I think you might like the test

drive un limited because it is more that a little bit arcadey as well not it's like Motorsport which is race B rules typ of thing I've got um Gran Turismo whatever number it is seven I've got to play on my PS5 cuz I've got the VR that was fun it's just setting that up is a it's I have such limited time to play games that setting all that up is like a barrier at this point because I if I could settle in for like a few hours I'd do it but but yeah you don't want to but having to spend like you're losing like 20 minutes I put it on I take off do something and then yeah exactly it's not yeah it's a whole

thing yeah also um did you have you I'm assuming you've played the new Formula One game for this year Luke I have it's the same game yeah yeah that's what I thought different slightly different drivers that you wouldn't give a [ __ ] same drivers just in different teams yeah I just yeah yeah oh yeah right the good thing is I I never actually buy them cuz I you got subscrition subscriptions so I'll it comes like a 5 hour free trial so I'll use the five hour free trial get and then I uninstall it and then I'll wait for it to come to the subcription service time I don't know they're just they're the same game they get a bit boring yeah I'm sure that's why I do like those like forer Horizons those bit more arcadey where you can just Ram a car and

it's fine not I'm going to ram a car and now I'm getting a Black Flag stupid black FL love that game Black Flag have you seen that um this weekend they're trying to do uh free there's a free Xbox weekend for Skull and Bones CU you know that game everybody forgot away yeah I just oh like quadruple a game quadruple a like I still don't know how they went like people like Black Flag where you you're a pirate you s around a boat you get off the boat you fight and you storm and go we're going to make that game but multiplayer but so you can't get off the boat it's just

Assassin's Creed that you wish were over go back to being an assassin we made a game of that then game of that Dan what flavor of V are you drinking that's a v um it is this is the pineapple and watermelon this is the refresh series do do you have these we don't have V oh sure so if we do this refresh series there's a green apple there's uh pineapple and then there's this watermelon and there's no there's no calories in this there's no no calories in this oh perfect I'm old same yeah so these by the Dozen I still just stick with the blue v yeah I drink um Coke Zero and uh I guess it's not zero but the root beer with no sugar and I drink yeah my fridge is full of that stuff now yeah yeah wouldn't have caught me dead

drinking that 20 years ago but now years ago whenever you got the zero it all tasted horrible it tastes different but now they've sort of perfected it well that and it didn't matter if I drank him or I didn't drink him I was still skinny that is not the case anymore that's right one false move and you're back in your old pants again you hit 30 and it's just no there's no more just drink [ __ ] sick of this yeah right well let's talk about something fun then let's talk about how I don't know let's talk about Home Alone 2 why don't know because I've seen I saw Home Alone on Netflix and there was uh no one in it that I recognized other than mccy gin Luke's been fooled by my fake description of what this article is because very funny this this article is

uh is about star of Home Alone 2 Donald Trump and his uh his conviction on 34 charges so I guess he's going to be running your country from prison then is it because I imagine the people who would vote for him don't give a [ __ ] that he's in jail like they've proved this they he actually might that's like that could happen apparently there is no law that says he can't do that he can't run and get elected and be the president from prison he can't pardon himself from these crimes because these are State crimes but he can be the president while he's serving his time for them but he couldn't actually [ __ ] crazy he couldn't actually do the job though and I'm I'm not whether whether you believe this is a whatever you believe about this right

just the fact that somebody could be in prison and be the president is but I'm saying is [ __ ] insane I'm not making any comment one way the other now if you said if you said to me did you know that in North Korea their [ __ ] president is in prison I'll be like yeah only in North Korea yeah or America apparently yeah I sometimes go on to Twitter or X whatever you call it these days and I saw like this and it was just all the comments I saw were just people going out like still supporting him like it's so back up because actually so what is he what has he done what is what has he done this is this paid off for something right correct yeah this using State funds I guess not using State funds but I mean it's still illegal to do that I think it's illegal to pay off porn stars

falsifying business record to I I I think I'm not a lawyer and I'm certainly not an expert on any of this but I think what he did was paid her off through the company not nothing to do with being president or anything like that yeah this was I think before he was the president um so I I I wasn't following this Fifi falsified business records to hide the fact that he had paid off this woman yeah so what did he pay her off for him he was married and he just didn't want her to say that they' slept together I don't know that it was even to do with why come out didn't want to come out that he had SE porn star when he was running for president yeah I think that's basically what it was what everyone knew he was doing that [ __ ] yeah but he mind blown this is like it

reminds me of there's a video about Billy Mitchell and um Carl jobs that came out this week like why is Billy Mitchell bothering with all this stuff because he can't help himself he just has to like it's like narc Mitchell this week we will get into after this oh should talk about about Billy Mitchell news but it reminds me of that where it's like why why would you do this all you're doing is like causing problems you're right some people just can't can't stay away help themselves if he didn't pay her off and the story came out it still it wouldn't have hurt him the people him I assume he bangs porn stars I assume he exclusively bangs porn stars he just grabs surely this is worse than that having come out yeah surely and people still don't give a [ __ ] like

I mean not everybody and you know there's people saying online like oh surely now people aren't going to vote for a convicted felon but know course the reason because a lot of people think this is just a political stunt they don't think it's anything to do with that they think they're just going after and for anything they can to try and stop him from running I mean and it's like it's what they did with uh Al Capone they put him in prison for tax evasion yeah Wesley SN would be for tax evasion so at the end of the day interesting point were still all guilty of those seeds yeah yeah yeah yeah they they didn't pin false charges on anybody yeah yeah yeah so anyway is he gonna go to prison like has the sentencing is uh

July July sentencing so who knows why do they do that can't they just decide on the day or does it just need a lot more process than I and apparently not it'll be interesting because so the judge doesn't like him apparently and from what I saw like again I'm not a lawyer I'm certainly not an expert from what I've seen normally um people probably wouldn't go to jail for this like he might get like house arrest or something so maybe he'll be if he gets elected running the country Mar exact on house arrest in his house like that would be a holiday for a normal person so who knows but then again maybe if only Jeffrey Epstein had had that option yeah I'd like to go back to my house that's where all my oh I mean I mean you I'll just yeah um is anyone want to give me a

hand no one will know yeah um just pop your name down here on this uh guest book while you're coming happened to all the stuff they found in his Brownstone remember there was a story about Jeffrey Epstein's Brownstone that that's just means a house in New York basically oh his his like townhous in New York I thought found a bunch of documents and everyone was getting excited about what's in the documents and then kind of been that good now the feds have just got them sitting on them yeah wait for somebody to do something do we want to talk about Billy Mitchell now well hold on before we move away from uh before we move away from court case news unless Billy Mitchell all right then let's go straight there yeah so uh Carl put out a

video this week that the court date has finally been set it's happening in September and he was also putting out the question like are you going to settle like everyone else settles because a lot of in America there's been a lot of just settling and he's gone doesn't have a whole lot of cash no well the reason why you settled in America is whether you win or lose you don't really have to pay the others court costs that's why it's cheaper to settle that's why you Cas just settle because at a certain point if they can Outlast you there's nothing you can do because if you can't afford to keep paying the lawyer you're [ __ ] y right like even if you're right [ __ ] in Australia it's different so if KL wins the judge could go well you not going to pay his court costs so there's

no incentive for Carl to settle at all no in fact quite the opposite at this point he's so far in it's it would be foolish of him not to just go ahead at this point Y and I think I think Billy's starting to work that out cuz Billy's been the one that's been prolonging this and dragging it out but I think he didn't realize that in Australia out of it he can't back out now either because then he has to pay the cost now it's too late so but I think Billy was just think in America where you just keep dragging it out and then you settle because in Australia it's different so I think he didn't realize this I think he's now realizing he's screwed one of the things Kyle was saying is that it's it's it's bad for him because his his argument apparently against his argument is that

Kyle um ruined his reputation yes by making all these videos except the videos was making were about Billy Mitchell's attempts to sue other people like Twin Galaxies for ruin and so basically his his whole argument is that how could I have ruined his reputation by making videos about a man whose reputation was ruined yeah it was already ruined that's what my videos were about and and here's the evidence he was suing all these other people for ruining his reputation which is what my videos were about yeah so I really don't see how Billy Mitchell's going to win no besides which Twin Galaxies were always Billy Mitchell's biggest supporters like you know like without them he was nobody he still nobody right well I think yeah the second like like Twin Galaxies were

sold I think that's where it all like you didn't have them in your corner anymore than they were they gave him way too much publicity back in the day to begin with he caused all this himself he could have just walked away and no one would have done except he he he Sues and he does stuff and then they go well [ __ ] you and they're like we take your scores off cheater yeah like just shut the [ __ ] up and none of this would have happened you could have just like gone your Merry way no one would have known you cheated whether you if you cheated whatever you could have just walked away and like the thing I love is this is the first time he's actually going to have like the big loss cuz everyone else has settled just because it just got too expensive to go away this time he's actually hopefully

he's outlasted people and then now he's [ __ ] up yeah this one he's going to lose there's still a chance he could win but I don't see how but there's never zero possibility I'd be amazed if he does I mean although to be fair I am a kyl jobs fan yes and I am um I mean maybe there's some aspect of this that Carl's leaving out yes that doubt it but it would have come by now look the reason why I'm also looking forward to this be because I am a KL jobs fan and and as he saying the video like he's not doing the stuff that wants to do at the moment because his life is up by this lawsuit and that's why most of the stuff he does there around that I'm hoping for that to be finished so he can start doing other stuff that we can watch and enjoy because I enjoy his

other stuff that's not around Billy Mitchell me correct me if I'm wrong didn't has he had cancer Carl recently he's had like all sorts of stuff going on I possibly I don't know let's invite him on oh I would [ __ ] love to talk to him he's a [ __ ] cool dude yeah see Brisbane yeah okay yeah he did he had uh he had like a tumor or something removed from his face cancerous tumor or something like that like I he's just had a lot going on and like for this this whole lawsuit thing is I can't imagine one thing I found out I found out quite awesome is Notch actually was helping him fund the LW cases yeah that's good that's where

that's where he's got the uh a lot well and he had a very good go fund me too because he is like he's a loved member of The Gaming Community it's not like he's just some some fool he's got a lot of support but yeah Notch chipped in too which is good he's got and the thing like he's not like even though he's raised a lot of money I think Billy's come out to try and say that he's raised all his money that he he's he's not getting any money out of that money he's raised oh yeah going to La oh yeah yeah I thought it was interesting that he mentioned Notch specifically only because Notch is a little bit poisoned after you know some of the online drama with him so and actually like I was like oh I appreciate that he said it anyway you know Notch is funding some of this

like because you could have just not mentioned it yeah in such a long time that's why it sort of stood out when he actually mentioned it but I'm guessing that he actually probably donated quite a bit well he I said he can afford it I think well yeah what he got billion for Minecraft mhm yeah and then was miserable y hated it hated four billion split up with his fiance and realized he couldn't trust anybody anymore because how do you make friends when you can't tell if there some just wants something from you I mean it sounds like boohoo but like that is pretty [ __ ] well no you hear all the time like people win Lotto and then everyone comes out of the Woodworks and

yeah goes hey yeah me the story I think I'd deal with it I think I'd be able to deal with it4 billion I'd have no friends you're my only friends now anyway so what do I care I've always told work like if I win if I have to win lot yeah we are your friends Danny don't you forget that I winck not tell anyone I would wait for the check to clear and then you'll never see me again someone um well that's what you said to Hannah the work didn't someone win a court case to um to say that they I don't know if it was an America or Australia I think it might have been in America because there is a law where if you win the lottery it's got to be publicly announced and this person want to say I don't want people to know no they didn't

win it it was in the UK Australia and they won and they fight to go like we don't want to do it and they've gone well no you can't part of yeah because you winning Is Us in that there are winners oh that's a good point yeah and also they I think they eventually took the money but they didn't get the money for like four years while they trying to fight this to go I don't want to know which I could sort of understand but then that's why as I said like from work you'll just never see me again but it's not like you earned that money you you got that money for free essentially in a [ __ ] game of chance and part of which is that you have to go and accept your big novelty check and get a picture taken like if you don't want to go

through that don't buy the ticket if someone I know you anybody one of you guys anybody won the lotto I wouldn't [ __ ] know I don't know who won the lotto like yeah how would I know how would you find out yeah exactly yeah if I won the lotto you you wouldn't know like I mean I tell you yeah no no no but un yeah you're right unless we happen to read the [ __ ] the Rhode Island times exactly nobody does and that's why I it's quite a weird sort of lawsuit to go after cuz like who's sitting there who's winning the lotto every week I would willing to bet if I won the lotto nobody in my life would know until unless told them or you where they even announce that [ __ ] like I know that they do announce it but how much does somebody have to

win before you before it's okay to start asking them for your cut of their money too you know what I mean like that's gross like I assume that the three of us earn comparable is money from our jobs right like if one of us was earning hundreds of thousands of dollars more than the others like good on them I've not noticed any status symbols that I you know like the Ferrari park outside your house or whatever but like even if you did even if you just got a real photo of I got me sure that but if just say you got a really good job that paid that much money I wouldn't be like oh you got a good job where's my like where's your really good job Danny like I just don't know where people get off yeah I could never going out and going you want you've got this money so

now I get something because you it's a wrong yeah when I was I mean kid it's personality thing I guess I would never do that but no no my when I was about 10 my dad when he moved from our house moved into like a granny flat behind this mansion in some really Posh suburb somewhere and I naively said to him like I should try to make friends with everyone and he goes why do you think rich people give out money to their friends like and I was like oh yeah guess not like knowing rich people doesn't mean you're a rich person it can open some yeah exactly that's what I was going to say yeah doesn't especially they're not going to give you anything but it might lead to might lead to a job that's not what I meant I just somehow

you'd end up with cash no no no you right you right [ __ ] him yeah [ __ ] all those Rich [ __ ] where's my money um you're not the only person suing anybody though uh Mitchell I don't know why I'm addressing him directly oh he listens he listens watches sure um someone I I I had to laugh someone suing Madonna you know mad you're aware of Madonna yeah familiar with what's the one thing you know what's the one thing you know yeah Jesus's M mother Mary um suing Madonna because he went to see one of her concerts found it to be a little too sexual for his tastes um was it recently or like it was years ago when she was do it it was [Laughter]

1987 You could argue Maybe You could argue in 1987 that you you didn't know I didn't realize that the lyrics of Like a Prayer were about giving a [ __ ] but I think now 40 years as I was staring at at the Sydney entertainment center jerking off sure but I didn't know why um but he's suing her um because he feels he was shown pornography without consent huh um was there pornography there were topless women women women that's the name of this episode topless winning make a note of that there were topless there were topless women um simulating sex acts on stage as

part of the show but just to be clear at a Madonna concert like if there's one thing I knew from from age five onwards was that Madonna was a bit sexual you know yes yes like she hit I've been at shows where girls have gotten up out of the crowd and got the kid off on stage too I wasn't complaining maybe I should see not at Madonna but this is yeah no that's true I've not been to a madon multiple other show I mean mostly I guess I I see metal and rock bands but yeah yeah that's you see tits at shows often I guess that's my point some I I used to go to shows hoping to see tits who's like yeah if I'm being honest yeah which one of these is gonna get their tits out today guess it's me everyone is it you is it

you come on please let it be you darling but see this is one of those yes I did know I was saying that out loud this is Miss Madonna this is one of those things it's La it's a suing In America which could quite possibly end with just a settlement to go away but it's also class action which I think it's like let's leaving the door open yeah come on who's with me you saw the titson you yeah and you hated they yeah you you liked them yeah is that what that emotion was I think I don't I'm pretty sure she's got a good defense like you know I'm Madonna and you came to a Madonna show mhm I I mean presumably tickets were 18

plus I mean oh she's been sued multiple times over this tour apparently oh so maybe this tour is just really explicit yeah subjecting the fans to pornography without warning of course this is on Fox News yeah no warning H look I'm going to say I don't need warning get out put no I don't sorry care you don't need warning for Madonna or anyone get their tits out I'm quite happy you just you want to get them out you be you yeah it doesn't certainly doesn't bother me um yeah can mean you imagine being bothered oh oh put those away yeah yeah no no but I'm each to their own I suppose but I guess make let this be a lesson maybe those concerts

aren't for you mate yeah lesson learned maybe if in the year 2024 you're going to see a Madonna show and getting offended by it maybe live music in general just isn't your thing I'm going to see Han Zimmer later this year and if he wants to get his tits out good on him yeah I'm not gonna complain you'll be getting your tits out for it I'll have my shirt off shoulders I love you hands h incept my [Laughter] ass okay no no wait I want to break this down so that would be him inside you but then DiCaprio or someone else presumably inside him yeah is there a gay porn parody of inception and that's the dick inside an

ass inside a dick and it's funny the the further you are the slower Everything feels that's right and he goes he stops saying that stop it's off footing that's the off footing part St I can't enjoy this with you doing that I don't know if you know this but I've also got to concentrate on the guy I'm [ __ ] you don't see me going at him do you yeah yeah and then that guy in the front there he just wants his dad to be proud of him that's why we're doing this it took me a second to realize what the [ __ ] you meant by that yeah I know

I'm sorry Brains it's good inen Inception yeah not a matam specific comment oh do we end on that or do we keep going there's where can you go from there other than a teasy Afterparty and just say it's where we talk about the stuff we can't talk about the M show so imagine what you get after that that's what Han Zimmer said I would like to see hans's zimo form [ __ ] great show last time this time I expect it to be just as good except maybe better because I'll get to hear some of the Dune soundtracks last time I saw him was before Dune go [ __ ] it here's an oldie video

kill the Radio Star does he no no he didn't do that he opened with um Driving Miss Daisy last time oh sweet were you gonna go see him uh TD Garden up in in Boston Boston um was Danny elfman's birthday yesterday I saw speak composers yeah happy birthday he's obviously not uh you know his his his troubles didn't go anywhere I'm talking about the you say not cancelled enough to not have a birthday no no no yeah no no no I mean yeah that didn't seem to have gone any anywh so no just I haven't heard any more about it but yeah yeah happy birthday I I would like to see him live as well he

does Coachella uh I'm not going to Coachella you're not going to Coachella don't go to Coachella I'll lose respect for you if you go to Coachella I want to see John Williams while I can if you know what I mean I get invited every year very quickly mat yeah I know there's an at the Hollywood Bowl every year and I get invited to it and it's just it's always everything is [ __ ] last minute cuz that's just how these things happen um and I'm not in La where you know yeah where you could just take people are exactly it's an effort there it's if I don't do it soon I'm never going to be able to so I'm thinking I just need to have it in the pocket ready to go at any point yeah can you take a guest yes we're going to get a oh a

guess I thought you meant a take a guess a guess oh we're to predict for joh Williams they are cheap tickets to America at the moment oh oh so let me know and I mean look I'll let you I'll I'll check when the last one was they're annual so presumably around the same time and yes I can take a guest so I'll let you know because I I'd love to go see him I'd love to hear all right that live with him all right and I'll get my tits out who did the furiosa schore did that Tom hulkenberg AKA junky XL junky XL yeah I've heard that's not good I don't know if it's not good but no one's going to see it I've heard it's very good which is why I'm confused why's going to see it but then I don't

think anyone's going to the movies any lowest Labor Day weekend since Garfield 30 years ago since they tricked Bill Mario and then tricked him into the [Laughter] sequel I want to go see Furious I'm probably gonna go on Tuesday the Stars Al line I'm super because I've heard it's good I've heard it's good too yeah I think people just aren't going to the moves anymore like um I think like Fall Guy I think I saw a some like this movie cost this and made this much an opening weekend yeah not competing against anything just there's no other I do like him and I've heard it's a like a kind of an Acy yeah but just no one going to the movies on the seen at the movies I ignored it oh

is it it's not I don't know it didn't look that good to me see you and you're right but everyone went to see [ __ ] Oppenheimer everyone went to see Barbie everyone went to see Dune that that's that was an interesting thing I reckon Oppenheimer I fu loved Oppenheimer but I feel like it got a lot of it won a lot because of that whole freebies yeah yeah yeah like he got [ __ ] lucky with that yeah yeah like people who were like oh I'm gonna go see both I'm gonna do the bimer thing who would never have seen Oppenheimer like look I liked Oppenheimer but was my least favorite of his films I think maybe not completely least but about this I [ __ ] loved it but yeah no I mean I I liked it very much but I'd watched tenet again before I watched it

again watch again we've talked about this I did watch tenet again but it was plan and I fell asleep halfway through yeah I [ __ ] love it it's so good the only thing that annoys me about it is that I'm like this should have been a series where's all the other stuff now like don't just hint that there's other stuff happening [ __ ] show me yeah need to do a Nolan movie I watch Series this week was worth mentioning um and I also watched a very good movie last night but uh let's talk about that in the Afterparty because we're out of time here what's the Afterparty Dan the Afterparty is uh if you want the second half of the show basically another uh another another 10 20 minutes of of talk uh

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