The Fresh Handprints of Bel Air: The Oscars Slap & Bruce Willis Retires

someone is mowing my front lawn and it is driving me crazy because you're emasculated by the fact that someone else is mowing your lawn wait is that euphemism welcome to multiple nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All Things nerdy it's not usually is it your wife no who is it I don't know and that's what the part that show oh wait is this one of those situations where you let it go for so long that someone was like I'm [ __ ] sick of this I saw no I am mowing that [ __ ] lawn I I I mowed my long quite a lot I was trying to look after it it still sounds like we're talking about his dick go

on had to stop but someone's just well I didn't like grow get too long that I'm going to go mow it is they've kept mowing it to keep it at that normal but I don't know who it is or when they're doing it oh so you think it's somebody who knew that you had surgery perhaps and is doing a nice thing but you don't know who it is I don't know who it is I can't say thank you is there one house on your street that's like super neat and like that person just wants to live on a neat Street at any cost and will mow any lawn cuz also I put it to you you said you said oh it wasn't that long but I don't know if you're not that long as everybody else's not that long no no I used to mow my lawn like at least once a week yeah at least once a week okay I

mean that's pretty ambitious for for a lawn Matt when was the last time you mowed your lawn well it's winter so you don't mow your lawn in winter here cuz it doesn't grow oh but it's one of the best things about living here is that the does not grow and probably next month I'll have to start again I even went out and brought like an edge of things cuz they start to look after the edges better and I was looking after my lawn well it's not really a lawn it's more that Medium strip at the front of the house the landing strip okay so it's not your property so it might be the council that's mowing it well no it's one of those stupid things it's not your property but the council does nothing to look after it and you have to look after it I find it funny where the council

draw their lines literally because there's a lot of council property around my place a lot of parks and things and they're obviously all done by separate councils or separate divisions within the one Council because they will just mow to a certain arbitrary point and stop and then several weeks later somebody else will mow the rest of it yep like that's not my problem welcome to multiple grass gather yeah so is somebody mowing all of your lawn or just the just the council strip we've only got the medium Shir at the front like we don't actually have a front yard imagine that that' be frustrating or you don't have a lawn you will need a mower though cuz we're going to need you to mow the council property outside your house that you are not allowed to like erect any

structures on or when I move here I've gone hey I'm like I'll give my lawn M to my sister because hey I'm not going to need it because I live in a townhouse I've got shr maybe it's your sister that's been mowing on your lawn then someone else have mow a lawn out the front nope it's still my job our driveway is very long and it's it's kind of woods and so the power lines come up kind of parallel to it and then cross at one point and then up to the house but I noticed that the trees were getting a little close to the power lines and I thought I better do something about that so I called a few places and then arranged some quotes and filled in a couple forms on websites to get quotes as well that but nobody ever really came out or anything like that and then one

day I came home from work and the trees had been trimmed back and I was like okay I was like that's weird cuz Luke's sister was out there yeah I guess so and so then it honestly it took 6 months to find out who it was because I called the the electricity company they said no we wouldn't do that and they said you need to call call the um the your city your local city council and I so I called them and they said no that's a state road you need to call the state I was like fine so I called the state and they said no we don't do that you need to call the power company and honestly it honestly went for 6 months and in the end it was the power company but wow but I actually I don't know I guess probably it was cuz eventually someone said yes that was us but then why do I believe

her over all the other people I spoke to but did they send you a bill cuz I've actually had that happened before when power companies come out and go like look this is getting close you got to cut that yeah and that's that's up to me to cuz they said oh you know it's it's near the road I'm like it's not near the road it's like 100 met from my house to the road through the trees and they they've and and I said and to be honest they made a bit of a [ __ ] mess last time like I'm not it's fine I say and how close to your house did they have to get like right up towards your house no no no cuz so like there's a the woods end and then there's a gap so maybe they just for some reason think the driveway is is a road is a road and not drive maybe Matt calls the road coming up to

his house his driveway actually I was going to say there's a point where it gets to uh the end of the driveway and then the power lines actually go underground the rest of the way up to my house maybe that's they just they just think that that's when that's the line that's now your property and your driveway is it your driveway if you come out and you see a couple of electrical guys having a picnic on what you think is your front la yeah that's right apparently I don't own all that land no but cuz they like what's the problem I'm like there's no problem I just want to know who is coming onto my like property and doing this do I have to pay you oh that's the most American thing you've ever said man but there's just on my [ __ ] property but it's just odd right it's like I'm

back here I'm like think I'm in privacy but someone's coming and trimming the trees like someone cuts Luke's lawn every [ __ ] week for a month and he's just like I'll mention it on the podcast but I'm not going to do anything to actually try to figure out who it is Matt does investigative journalism for months well what happens if they like [ __ ] something up like I don't know I just I just wanted to know who's doing it I just want to know who's doing it I'm just cuz and that's the thing it is weird that someone just comes along and just does it yeah yeah go for it if I'm not paying for it go ahead but yeah anyway but if you [ __ ] it up I want to know who to play that's right yeah if one of them falls on my car who do I call I just really wanted to say

Ghostbusters Just then you can say it go on it's too late now yeah the moment's gone I'll edit it in to make you sound like you said it right on time one of them falls on my car who do I call Ghostbusters so something happened this week that I think everyone's going to expect us to talk about I mean we could be contrary and just not mention it but there's kind of a lot that I want to unpack about it and I actually wouldn't mind hearing your guys' opinions on this so me with it we talk about Will Smith hitting [ __ ] Chris Rock in the face at the Oscars please I'll tell you one thing Chris Rock took it like a champ didn't he oh man there were so many ways he could have taken that and he didn't I know and if you believe all the [ __ ] that's coming out he he took it even

better than it seemed like he did because he he didn't he the LAPD apparently was there ready to do something cuz somebody called them and he was like no I'm good and then um if you read seen the article where he went like he when he was younger he did have a bit of an anger issue mhm so there was like he used to get bullied a lot when he was younger who Chris Rock or so Chris Rock oh okay yeah yeah cuz everyone hates Chris so when he was younger used to get bullied a lot and there was one time he got he had enough of it put a brick in his bag got bullied slapped this kid to the ground with bag and was basically curbs like stomping him and then when he sort of and that kid was Will Smith growing older he con to see therapy and he and he's does have

an anger problem but not some he's equipped with the skills to deescalate now is what you're saying deescalate cuz he doesn't want to lose control like that Willi like keep my wife's name out of your [ __ ] mouth and he and he just go I'm going to yeah first he it was a g j joke yeah I know I know yeah okay so there's there's a lot there number one that's an interesting story Luke and the only thing that I think I would enjoyed more than watching Chris Rock absolutely restrain himself would have been him take out a school bag with a brick proceed to bash Will Smith with it and make Oscars history yeah literally the Oscars would never be on again well I I think they should cancel the Oscars anyway it's didn't go

well the thing I kept thinking of was like well first of all would this have happened if it was Ricky ja I don't know that Ricky jaes would have made that joke because he tends to do a bit apparently Chris Rock did not rehearse that joke he just came out with it it's not unclear whether he knew so for listeners who don't know wil Smith's wife J ping Smith has alipa in she came out last year and the started shaving her head yeah so she shaves her head so because her hair doesn't grow in all all the way all in all spots or something along those lines and it's you know it's a s Point knows nothing about that well I know that it's she has a medical condition and it's a sore point for her she feels very sensitive about it and it's unclear whether Chris Rock knew

that and he was just or if he just saw her and made a stupid I don't think he did it looked like he didn't know it looked like he just saw a woman with a shaved head and made a joke she might be in the movie with the other woman with a shaved head and even her reaction when you see her reaction a bit of Ry eyes like E Yeah Yeah cheap shot and it was a cheap shot it was in foraste and if anyone who knew that that was not a a style choice but a medical condition I mean number one my [ __ ] dad told me at age four don't [ __ ] ever make a comment on a woman's appearance hair clothes anything don't ever [ __ ] do it like but I mean these guys are hired to roast people that's what they're there for but as you say Ricky ja always punches up this was probably a a punch

down did you ever see that Anna aana video where she said it was like about when um when a woman comes into the room and when she says notice anything different and then what a man is is riddle me this yeah yeah it's so true but that did you see that so evidently will was also asked to leave yes depending asked him to leave and he went no and then went and got his award he said he wanted to apologize apparently and then they asked I mean there's a lot of who knows what's true people said they asked Chris Rock do you want us to make him leave and Chris Rock was like no it's fine I don't want to make it worse no I feel comfortable and safe I don't want to

make it worse that's right they're going to investigate and there may be some repercussions for Will Smith and they they may kick him out for a year or something it's so like he's got his award he doesn't give a sh at this point like he's not going to so if he gets kicked out for a year well I won't go make a Oscar yeah type movie I'll just go and cash in and make another movie and he's been making Oscar type movies to try and win ancar for several years now now yeah so he doesn't care I mean it would have been magnificent if they had just came up when it was time to do the best actor and go on this was actually going to be Will Smith but guess what you broke a code of contuct by acting like a complete [ __ ] and so now you're not going to get it m mhm

it's pretty wild that he can do that and then they're just like he got a standing ovation yeah when you're rich and famous you can literally do whatever you want now this is just proof of that and the fact that I was going to say like the fact that he thought that was appropriate is one thing but then it was it actually was fine which is even weirder like it was yes yes no that that's that's the worst part about this match you're absolutely right he wasn't wrong he knew it would be okay to literally walk on stage and punch someone and he was right yeah it's [ __ ] weird man punch you in the face yeah my what name out of your [ __ ] mouth Dan no I think he should have thought a Kanye but that's the thing the Kanye thing I mean

this is this is like Kaner 2.0 right you shouldn't if a nonf famous person had walked onto that stage they would have been crashed tackled by security crash tackled and held face to the floor but when famous apparently nobody knew everybody was like this has got to be a joke of some sort they've pre-arranged and like even the even the the guy the producer of the of of the Academy Awards said I thought perhaps they had pre-arranged this and just not told me cuz that type of stuff does sort of happen so but but it's just a bizarre thing to have happen there's a lot behind this as well right so Will Smith and I didn't know any of this because I literally don't give a [ __ ] about Will Smith or any other celebrities's private life but in seeing all of this I've been

forced to learn that Will Smith's wife came out on naal TV and admitted to him and the world that she had had sex with one of her son's friends 17 years old and that he was a better lover than Will Smith was now if if that happened to me I'd probably be a little on edge as well but I I will admit that that entire family sort of setup is really weird yeah I feel like they've gotten into Michael Jackson SL Prince style Fame like I I don't think Will Smith knows what's appropriate and what isn't Behavior yeah and clearly there's actually a reason he doesn't know and it's because the whole world doesn't know because the whole world is now debating whether it's okay for Will Smith to literally just walk up on stage and punch someone I know I see people

like yeah but he said a mean thing about his wife like wait so what yeah what he should have done in my opinion yeah okay Chris Rock made a [ __ ] joke right and he didn't know about the medical condition probably so what Will Smith should have done is when he got up for his award should have said by the way my wife has a medical condition and I really didn't appreciate the joke then he would have gotten a standing ovation that he deserved imagine that you get up you you accept an award and then you go and by the way Chris Rock don't mention my wife's medical conditions on live TV he couldn't even he could have even made the joke or I'll [ __ ] come and [ __ ] slap you next time everyone would have applauded yeah exactly but the thing that I find the funniest about this was so I I was

following along with this while it was on right so I was at work and I had the the other window open just kind of following along as the awards were happening and stuff cuz I do follow the Academy Awards and then when this happened oh I instantly tried to go Reddit everywhere that I thought people were going to be talking about this and for a good few hours no one quite knew what side the whole world was going to be on and so it was about 50/50 of people going yeah [ __ ] don't say anything about another man's wife you'll get hit in the [ __ ] face let's bring back the old values where you can punch someone for saying something bad and then it took a little while longer for the influential people to start weighing in and every influential person's

opinion is you can't hit someone full [ __ ] stop you can't hit someone and so then now everyone's on that bandwagon but that wasn't the case for the first few hours no totally I still see people arguing that that everyone who's at the Oscars can't now get backtrack and say it was bad when they gave up and gave him a standing ovation yes there's footage of you standing up clapping well there is that thing where you're at an event you're expected to behave that way so that is a little odd oh that's a good point that's a good point and in fact you could CU there's also give steady evation to everyone though that is true fair point otherwise you're steady up and also I actually thought and now granted by this point I've seen him punch somebody but I thought his speech

was incredibly self-serving self-indulgent and and just dripping with the kind of sentiment that I find disgusting in in a Hollywood celebrity anyway and I quite like Will Smith well the thing I was going to say was that I feel like I I kept thinking I haven't really heard Ricky J say anything directly about I've seen him retweet a few things that I agreed with and but the thing that I kept thinking was I sure his opinion on this is they're [ __ ] Rich powerful she can take a [ __ ] joke like this was so stupid like what an inappropriate way to behave like Get over yourself it's just a [ __ ] joke that's what her reaction isn't her reaction doesn't look upset angry it's just like really that's a joke you're

going to tell and if you can't handle someone making a joke about that even if it is a personal thing maybe you shouldn't be a celebrity yeah that's right and not only that Jada pinket Smith is a [ __ ] pretty strong willed woman if she thinks that Chris Rock deserves a slap she can give him one herself yeah totally and and I think if she'd gone up there and slapped him the world might be having an even bigger can about how to feel about this than Will Smith getting all hyper masculine and doing it I've just posted a link down the bottom which shows just how sort of weird the Smith family is I think oh my God what this photo is like from years ago but uh yeah so that's Willow Smith

who was 13 at time photographed in bed with a 20-year-old with his shirt off goodness me yeah well well that's what Ricky jaes said Ricky jaes was like I wouldn't have made a joke about her bald I would have made a joke about her [ __ ] that underage kid right yeah good point but here's the thing right so um the internet the sleuths out there in the um what what do they call them the uh neens the neens out there have dug up an old clip of Will Smith guest appearing on the arino Hall Show back in the '90s and making fun of aro's bass player who has alipa right and at at cuz he he's talking about social norms he's like and see this guy thinks it's normal that he has to polish his head every day and the audience actually

goes and then he turns to camera and goes come on people they're just jokes right which is eerily similar to Chris Rock's response when he goes come on that was a nice one yeah yeah wait it was it wasn't that bad [ __ ] man yeah and look you maybe don't make fun of someone's haircut but his actual words were Jada I love you I can't wait for your next movie to come out like yes there was like that little onew punch in there that was the joke but he wasn't saying by the way you're a [ __ ] idiot he was saying thumbs up to you and you've even rocking a shaved head yeah and like as I said like he didn't that wasn't part of the planned monologue he was just he was [ __ ] around and he he made that joke about harier bid him right before and then uh him

being looked yeah he looked over and he saw Will Smith who he was talking about and then he saw J pink Smith and it obviously just came to him and so he like wasn't a big deal it wasn't like trying to have a go her like no yeah now that as it may you could also argue that it doesn't matter about what your intent was if you said something hurtful to somebody then you liable to do it and I think if either Jaden or will had said as he said Matt later in the show um that was a low blow and we think you should apologize I'd be very surprised if didn't come out and apologize be later in the show I've got no problem with Will SP walking up or Jada walking up at the time and saying it right then and there just it doesn't need the physical

side yeah I think even walking up is is a threatening gesture I I think in terms of the social norms of that situation nobody from the audience is allowed to walk up on stage like that's that's that's the contract that you agree to when you sit in the audience Chris's reaction is so genuine he's like uhoh what the [ __ ] is happening like and then yeah like I I I can't imagine dealing with it as well as he did where he was he just rolled with it move on you did see sort of look to the side and go like yes to do anything about stop want to keep going there's even a bit where he goes I could and then he stops and and moves on with something else I want to hear what he could do yeah I could hit you with my [ __ ] school bag

brick don't let me show you my Chris [Laughter] and then poor guy he's like I'm here to give out a documentary and then he's like no I'm here to give out an award for a documentary the only thing he tripped up on no and I would have loved it and and it's fine but I would have loved it if he didn't miss a beat you know what I mean and just he do touch his face he doesn't rub his jaw he just man I would have been milking that I'd be on the floor going I don't think I would have been milking up but I still think I would have been done the [ __ ] [ __ ] that's the other thing too aric I mean it wasn't it wasn't wind up punch or anything but I reckon Will Smith's proba

body behind like he twisted his body into that someone sent me apparently the cuz you know Will Smith is a Scientologist I think that's G is he yeah yeah right and there is a particular apparently allegedly right I'm not an expert Luke probably knows more about this than I do he's done their training do they teach you to slap people apparently that's a thing is that if they they teach you no no no allegedly they teach you a good way to hit someone cuz humiliating him that's that's that's the goal wow and so it's it was very intentional he went up there and he slapped him and he humiliated him in front of every cuz a slap is weird a slap is more humiliating than a punch exactly but it's humiliating to you can you imagine if at

[ __ ] high school somebody was giving us [ __ ] and we went up and slapped him we'd be called for years after that it's true yeah what you should forget to close your fist Danny yes exactly yeah like if you slapped someone you might as well have just gone up and a hand like I I I can punch you but I don't and I you're a [ __ ] and I'm going to [ __ ] slap you yeah I'm just going to slap you because I'm still going to hurt you but if I punch you it's going to be too much for you so I'll slap you you have to be able to back it up with a punch later if they do come back at you though like that's the mhm oh I mean yeah I'm I'm glad he did I'm don't get me wrong I'm glad he didn't but man I would have loved it if he' hit him back if you look at it I think you do see his right hand

go to react and I think he restrains himself what a man what a [ __ ] man I know actually before this moment I could have taken all leave in Chris Rock now he's my [ __ ] hero I've always liked Chris Rock cuz he sort of went away Ora went into just a stand up more than the movies well and he also did some serious rolls he was in the Fargo season 4 and he wasn't very good at the acting well there were no jokes even you saw movie that I haven't seen yet I do want I want to watch it apparently you know what I'm going to watch that now apparently the new Saw movie that he's in spiral was his idea he pitched that whole plot and everything so I don't know what it is I haven't seen it but I just remember Charlie clausa saying that actually Chris Rock pitched the whole

thing so here's the thing I I I don't mind Will Smith I quite like Will Smith I've I've liked I've I've very much enjoyed several of his movies I've lost a lot of respect for him to be honest I have too well there's another thing that he did lately too that this is not in the spreadsheet but I watched go there was he he did a he did a little TV series or documentary thing about how he' put on a bunch of weight and he was I mean he's older now he's his 50s 40s 50s he's like close to 60 yeah right he put on a bunch of weight he wanted to get back to like when he was ripped cuz he he was playing Ali yeah right and so he did this documentary except he basically was like I've got to lose the weight and get back to the condition I was in my you know

20s and 30s uh in 5 days or some stupid thing and it was basically like why are you doing this and so he fails and it's like just I don't know unhealthy unrealistic very ridic I never I didn't watch documentary I just watched a YouTube video about it where they basically were like why did he do this and and then why did anybody why did they film this like I guess they started filming it and then realized halfway through he's not going to make it how can we make this interesting and I guess it's mostly just about him realizing that having self-esteem I'm an old man I'm an older man now I don't need to be see I don't think they should ever do anything about actors having to lose weight or get fit or anything because

all it comes down to is someone here's what you now eat and now train here and this is your roue like it's not something AAL can do so I don't feel Sor for them it just made me think why what is wrong with Will Smith why is he even doing this why did he agree to do this TV show it's just so weird like if you want to lose the weight just do it sensibly why do you why is this but that's the thing stunt when you're a celebrity everything about your life has to be public it's the same thing why didn't him and Jada have a conversation in the privacy of their own home where she told him that he [ __ ] she [ __ ] a teenager why they have to go and do it on an special and know so weird no I think it just goes back that they do have that sort of Prince sort of

mentality that yeah anything they want is just nor they don't understand how normal people behave anymore yeah or like yeah it's and I guess and the other thing people people are some a lot of people have praised Will Smith's apology that his PR Company put out on Instagram and I I put it to you that that that that means basically nothing it means absolutely nothing at all the real apology was the which was a bit [ __ ] yeah didn't mention Chris exact the one that came out what like over 24 hours later yeah [ __ ] off yeah did you see there's another angle come out that uh came out yesterday that hadn't come out earlier than this which was somebody about three rows behind them filming on their iPhone and um you see Jada laugh

when Will Smith hits Chris Rock really so it's also taken the wind out of her sales if she wants to come out and go I was shocked by it and all of that but then again everyone's pointing out that Will Smith laughs there's a closeup of him laughing the first time that makes the joke but I would also say he probably didn't even understand what the [ __ ] joke was he was probably just laughing cuz Chris Rock's up there doing his thing on stage and he was in the audience and that's what you meant to do I've seen a lot of hot takes this week and one of them was that I don't know a whole lot about the Smiths but one of the takes was that I know way too much because of this stuff about her you know outing their his her know basically they have like an open relationship now

apparently because of her because she demands it he doesn't exactly and and so a lot of people were saying like it looked like Will Smith was laughing realized she wasn't having it and was like oh [ __ ] I got to do something and blaming her for the whole thing because not only that she has said and I don't know the context of this but everyone's talking about it she has said that Will Smith is a great father great husband but he's just not a very good lover like she's quite open about dad like he just can't [ __ ] can you imagine yes my wife's not going around telling people that no she keeps that information to herself man for that as she should as is appropriate yeah yeah yeah and if she ever starts a podcast I'll be [ __ ] terrified one that's not

with me you'll be walking up there and hitting her in the [ __ ] face like a real man does yeah exactly all right let's move away from Will Smith cuz I'm sick of it all right okay but if we're going to move away from Will Smith can we please move on to Ezra Miller please because I actually had to read several articles before I even understood what had happened this week who's Ezra Miller The Flash The Flash yes so there's some followup he's been arrested for uh is this the movie Flash or TV Flash movie Flash movie Flash okay yeah the one who choked the woman out mhm yes oh and this was only a few days ago yeah so I had to really read into this to find the chronology of this all right took me through it I've I've only seen this article and so me through it

the way I'd heard it this is the headline i' I heard was something like this Ezra Miller has a restraining order against him by couple that he was staying at their house after being arrested at karoke bar and I was like that doesn't make any sense like that's those words individually sense but I just don't understand you put them together in a weird order here's what I think happened erra Miller is just out of [ __ ] control right as we knew already he he's in Hawaii for whatever reason he's at a farmer's market actually you do he meets a couple right local couple at the farmers market he was like yeah I'm staying in town I don't know where I'm staying yet they're like stay at our house great y so they so he's moved his stuff into their house he's staying

there for a couple of days at one point and I don't know if they were there or not he goes to a karaoke bar where he starts just causing [ __ ] jumping up on stage taking the mic away from a young girl and singing over her got got into a fight with a guy at a pool table um was arrested they called the police he was arrested taken to Jail the the couple whose house he was staying at go to the police station and pay his bail so that he can be released right these are complete strangers essentially own ba they know him a little bit she went up and paid his bail went back to her house he goes to his room they go to their room then in the middle of the night he comes bursting into their bedroom and screaming at them all kinds of threats right starts yelling I'll bury you I'll

bury you both they then call the police and now he has a restraining order you want to know who he's starting to remind me of Shuff yes yeah exactly this is the type of stuff that he was doing like when he at that b show and he just started just [ __ ] nuts yep I love that story just because he thought everybody was doing it and it but they weren't it was just him being a [ __ ] yeah so okay so the bail was 500 bucks which is not a lot so that that does clarify but I I just if I was to run into a celebrity mhm I'm not going to go hey do you want to come crash at my house what I I bet there are celebrities that you I want I want to find out where that Gap is so

like Felicia Day you saw Felicia Day all right there's a log list okay but this is The Flash right yeah would there be any characters from Justice League that you would let stay at your house galgadot galgadot yes sure Ben Affleck at your house I let Ben affle stay at my house okay Henry Cav for sure is welcome at my house any day of the hold on hold on back this up back this up you at the farmers market right you look up over the cantaloupes Henry caval is testing to see how soft an avocado is right yeah you go look TV actor and and film Enthusiast Henry caval right you go I remember you and he's like from my film work and you go no watched you build your own PC on YouTube and he goes that YouTuber Henry K and and then he's go and then he says

to you oh well actually I'm happy to help you build your own PC too um but I do need a place to sleep for the night and you're like sorry mate you are on your why did he need a place to stay why can't the flash afford a hotel I feel like the rest reason he can't afford $500 bail I feel like the rest of the story kind of makes sense to the fact that he didn't have a place to say he's a [ __ ] Maniac clearly yeah yeah so look if I was up at the the farmers market here in centry and I bumped into Henry Cav absolutely if I bumped Henry Cav had chat with him he was like oh yeah I'm not quite sure we're staying actually we're on holiday in Rhode Island for some reason I'm like you stay in my house you can stay my

place if you want in fact I'd be embarrassed to offer but I would I mean he can of be once yeah yeah I was would say like who would off but who's offering the flash Han Zimmer if Han Zimmer was at the farmers market for some reason absolutely I mean would have to listen to some of my [ __ ] demos he be coming back or not he was like do you do you really yeah when I was about 20 um I used to follow the Dresden dolls um MH they were my favorite band at the time and they were the kind of one of the first bands to really kind of be on the internet and have an internet presence and before any of their tours I remember when they first came to Australia Amanda Palmer emailed anyone who had bought

tickets to their show and was like can me and the band stay at your house yes well there were stipulations they were like we have to have you know you have to have a spare room I'm not sleeping on your floor in your bedroom like there's no funny business but I do need somewhere to stay which it sort of does make sense cuz like like with bands that are sort of big but not quite there they saving money on accommodation is a huge thing yeah yeah no look unless unless times have changed for them there are still situations where if you're in a place that Amanda Palmer and Neil Gan are traveling to you can give them a lift from the airport cuz they they need a lift from the airport and they'll ask and you can you can put your hand up like as as recently a few years ago somebody always

will I'd go and get Neil gam from the airport 100% I enjoyed her book you know the art of but I think maybe I think she discounts how famous she is yes correct correct the of being a celebrity asking still in touch with the world unlike the Smiths yeah yes a little too in touch if you ask me I had to unfollow both of them on social media even though I I love them both because I just didn't want to know that much about their lives I'll read Neil's books if I want to know about you know what I mean like yeah yeah yeah I don't want to see him [ __ ] at Amanda can you get some [ __ ] Cherry Soda on your way home tonight or when he they had an argument and he [ __ ] off back to Scotland and then a pandemic happened and he couldn't they couldn't get back together that was

intense wish I could [ __ ] off the Scotland you can now I was meant to [ __ ] off to stock Scotland and I couldn't because of the I like Scot you can now Scot we can't oh if we leave the country we might not be let back in yeah we're we're not quite there yet it's easier but now pandemics will over here in America well it's good cuz my wife will be in America tomorrow I mean it certainly seems like it when I go to Walmart oh yeah but it should be in California that's a little I think over there they're still you know Hollywood still a little bit still a little bit of a pandemic in California that's what I've told her I'm like don't believe them when they've said none of us have Co some of them do yeah even when in

2024 when I fly over to go to PEX East I'm going to be wearing a mask 2024 you you're coming over 2024 2024 fact East okay well I I I'm going to go into 2024 cuz 2023 I still just don't know what trouble's going to be like in Australia just even with costs I think it's going to take a while for prices to drop so that's why 2024 yeah all right come over for packed East my birthday my friend's husband was a quantis pilot for 20 years now he's a bricky Quantas pilot are you yeah cor B for 20 years man and boy now he's a Ricky yeah they just laid off all they Pilots oh yeah right [ __ ] like they just there's just there's just not enough there's just not flights anymore out of Australia there's some not many and that's actually the other

part of R OB two things I know how to do fly planes and lay bricks build a house yeah they're starting to BR cuz remember during the pandemic they flew all the planes to the desert and park them and now they bringing them all back into the sun like at the end of Battlestar Galactica won't be needing these anymore why why did you remind me of the end of Battle Star [Laughter] Galactica maybe we could have used some technology to make our lives easier that yeah that [ __ ] okay that didn't make any sense a lot of the last episode didn't make any sense we should destroy all this stuff wait why why yeah maybe we should keep I'm not really good at farming so if we got machines that can grow [ __ ] yeah yeah all of us are

pilots ridiculous hey the new the new season the new well the new version of it comes out soon I think I don't know about that yeah I'm still interested to see how they're going to release it they said they're going to release it not one episode at a time but not all at once oh okay so there might be weird yeah so they're going so it'll be at least one a week but then if there's like a big battle or something that it's going to take a bit of time they'll release like two episodes so you don't get left in halfway through a battle or something so yeah right could be interesting I suppose there's no reason why you have to do it one at a time all with any yeah with any kind of consistency yeah no reason yeah we didn't want to spend the

time to try and Pace it out the you in a way a normal show would so we just changed the format to suit our l so something I read this week that I kind of knew would happen and I also know why it's happening but I'd love your guys opin opinion on this okay unless you don't want to give it in the next season of Umbrella Academy oh sure yeah yeah Elliot Pig's character comes out as transgender yeah y because the actra who plays that character has come out as transgender in real life yeah yeah I it's interesting it's I think the the thing with it is it's it's the first time a very famous person has transitioned in the public eye I think well that's

actually not entirely true not because you have like um Caitlyn Jenner and first time a character actor has transitioned right and so like for example there are some very famous transgender actors and actresses now but they were transgendered before they became famous whereas now you know Elliot page is very fam a very popular television show and I was yeah I was cuz when they when the way I found out was that they first posted uh he posted a picture of the character on his Twitter account saying uh Victor Hargraves is the character's name now and I was like oh okay I cuz I had wondered what they were going to do I thought this was going to be a good opportunity for Elliot and the kind of whole community of actors to say we can play any gender

my personal life doesn't affect the characters I play but the fact that that hasn't happened the opposite has happened is just an interesting phenon what I'm interested to see is I'm hoping this is going so bad I'm hoping that in the show it's not a just a very smooth thing that just happens that just come out I I hope that there is some sort of confusion questions to show sort of what actually happening in the real world when this happens so it shouldn't it just be a love oh you want to be known by that now yep yeah not a problem we all support you it' be better if there is that sort of people yeah but pretty wild that they're actually like if it's like a plot Point that's going to be I I mean it'll certainly be interesting uh but it just I mean surprising to me that

they were going to do that it's it's bold to take that on as actually part of the show I guess is what I'm trying to say but I understand why you would and I think this is the safe option yeah yeah I suppose so but but that's why I was I thought maybe if Elliot pagee previously known as Ellen pagee is like mate I could still play Vana no problem yeah yeah I wonder about that too I'm still as good an actor as I always was yeah right yeah you I I have already played that character so I can continue continue to play that character my ha in real life but when they first posted the picture and said this is Victor HRI so I was thinking oh they just cast him as a different character or what is happening here like and then but then they clarified it no no that the character

will come out as trans as well and I was like oh okay I mean I consider see it being a good thing because you it's something you don't see normally when there is a trans character in a t sh or a movie they're already already happened you're not see that transition that transition could be part of the hardest part is that that beginning to I need to come out and tell people that this is what I am this this is who I am it's a good opportunity to kind of educate people because I think as is fairly obvious from the way we're kind of stumbling around here we don't have a lot of context for this stuff as almost none like and hopefully we're not coming across negatively cuz honestly I don't care what people do and I fully support everybody's decision do whatever they

want I just don't necessarily I don't know what it's like and and that's why I'm sort of going to and that's why it shouldn't just be cuz I've seen it in some shows I can't remember which ones but or maybe it's game but someone this and everyone's just super accepting and we move on and because the Riders want to be seen Rea not real CU even if people can be supportive but they can still be confused they can still be yeah yeah but then you don't want to lean too heavily into that because honestly CU beyond that people can be [ __ ] [ __ ] about it and you don't want lean too far into that either I don't think right oh I think providing that it swings back around to a positive by the end could

have a be the underdog for a bit and then and then have everyone go oh you know what still you and we love you I mean there's going to be more to it because of plot reasons for the show that I won won't give away if you haven't seen it but the other thing is that going to say the show's already dealing with so much I know it's like yeah the um one of the characters of chimp for Christ's sake that's what I mean it's just such a yeah it's so I'm trans chimp yeah well I mean we're all learning I guess yeah and well some of us are learning better than others uh on that note um do you know that um Steven Spielberg literally said to Michael Bay you need to stop making Transformers movies I saw that um yeah why he was

like enough is enough yeah sure enough is enough but also you know what you're getting with for Transformers movies [ __ ] blows up and there's robots yeah and then he said that he he agrees well I see I don't know why he agrees so because he they then went on to point out that they've all made like you know hundreds of millions of dollars and it's kind of like I think probably just because once you start talking in those numbers I don't have context for that that Michael Bay does m you know like we could have told SP spelberg to have stopped at three Indiana Jones movies yeah right the fifth one comes out this year doesn't it will it though [ __ ] but I mean like when you tell Michael B oh your movie and he made $300 million he's like I

can't believe it what a failure whereas if I made a movie that made $300 million I'm [ __ ] retiring that's yeah I have succeeded that life yeah I made a movie that broke even and I was like yes yeah not in Deb for my movie myself a pizza with the money that's right tasted like victory yeah cheese tasted like Hollywood but are they talking about making another Transformers movie the last one was um I'm almost certain that they are talking about it I didn't see Bumblebee I think the last one I saw was with Marky Mark bumblebee wasn't actually I quite enjoyed it he did too I quite enjoy all the ones I've seen I'll be totally honest oh yeah they're fine as

like trash popcorn you know what you're getting as you say it's not like you go in going oh let's see if this is the new citizen K like you go in going I can't wait to see some robots turn into cars yeah there's no there's no character studies about people transitioning in a Transformers movie Transformers why has this not been done I think you know why guys you can turn from a car into a robot yeah but also I have body dysmorphia and I really want to talk about the issues behind this they going to blow everyone's [ __ ] minds m [ __ ] you the cinema goinging audience Sit down you're in for a character study Megatron even Luke can't get on board this no Luke could you get on board

Bruce Willis would you let Bruce Willis stay at your house actually I wouldn't Bruce Willis is not one of my I would he's not one of my go-to I'd like to have a beer with type of person he seems like AIT I've heard heally I don't know about that I thinku probably wouldn't want to have a be with you either just because oh you know what I've been listening to haleywood and that's why I think it's because one of the things they talk about very early on Bruce Willis wants to be famous but he wants you to leave him alone he wants to he wants you to know who he is he wants you to see him and go there Bruce Willis but then [ __ ] don't approach him yeah but yeah then just keep your [ __ ] head down they're the types of actors that I don't like you know who else I

reckon is that Christian Will Smith [Laughter] Will Smith [ __ ] notice my wife Chris Rock I'm sick of guys noticing my wife had enough of it um I never really noticed his wife noticed her now she was in The Matrix I know that I don't know if she was anything else I had to remind myself of that to be honest um yeah Bruce Willis follow up we talked about this a bit red Le media did a video about what the [ __ ] is Will Smith doing Will Smith what the [ __ ] is Bruce Willis doing um um turns out they were right basically he's uh he's not white yeah so he just went out was filming a lot of films taking a in two years very quickly got diagnosed and then was like well [ __ ] I be again basically he won't be able to speak so

so he has aasia that's [ __ ] yeah which which is a type of dementia right mhm yeah affects the ability to speak and understand and whatnot so correct me if I'm wrong but that wasn't a theory that red letter media put out red letter media analyzed why he was doing all these bad movies talked about the fact that he had an earpiece to learn his lives other people that yeah that and we thought so too and it certainly seemed like that um and it was funny it was funny to watch someone who was such a big movie star um in again this is this is someone that I like die hard is a great [ __ ] movie you know fth element he's done some really iconic stuff like [ __ ] I love Hudson Hawk yeah [ __ ] love Hudson Hawk you're that guy that loves Hudson Hawk I there's two of we went to see it

yeah there are literally dozens of us I even played the SNES game for Hudson I remember the Hudson hwk SNES game yeah there was a SN game for Hudson Hall yes that that's a movie that does not deserve a game no I think it was really was it ocean games there was there was a there was there was one Dev that just kept buying licenses yeah they did the Batman's and the yeah just kept publishing [ __ ] movie tie-in hoping one of them would make money yeah it was it was ocean for sure but yeah so he's uh he he apparently not but he really he does have early onset dementia it's very sad and he's retired now yes not only is is that why he needs the earpiece and needs someone to and can't do with the fight scenes and and can only be on set for one day and all of this stuff but it's

also the reason he did many at once is so that he could just put the money in the bank knowing he'll never be able to make money again AL he Pro apparently didn't tell all I guess early on at least or up until a certain point didn't tell the film crew that that's what was happening and then there were these stories coming out now where people were like the [ __ ] what is he all right like he's not behaving normally and apparently there's a story where he he they're on set shooting something and then will Bruce you can't want to say Will Smith for some reason Bruce Willis ising probably does it yeah Bruce Willis looks around and he's looking at the lighting guy in the Gaff and he's like well I know why you're here and I know why you're here why am I

here I know and it's like [ __ ] that's so sad and then to the point where where like the The Producers went to talk to his people and said is he all right and they said look Bruce is very happy to be here and he's really excited about the project so let's just get this done and it's like okay cuz obviously they weren't allowed to say anything yeah is Bruce is Bruce married currently at the does he have a wife I know that have someone at home to look at sep frommy more right but they sort of got back together didn't they or they're sort of still very close maybe then maybe they're not back together but maybe because he has dementia she's like welcomed him back oh no his wife is Emma Heming who's Hing maybe he got his wish and we just don't know enough about him

anymore what's his wish oh wow he to be left alone to be left alone oh Jesus okay I thought his wish was for em Heming I'll be like yeah I can understand why you'd wish for this how old is she [ __ ] hell married since 2009 how did we miss this I mean whatever was she still in high school in 200 no she she's older than us no holy [ __ ] she is these are Hollywood people they're she does not look years old is she an actress uh it looks like she was in Red 2 so yes she was in a movie that means I'm an act no is that that means I'm an actress that's four years after they got married though so uh maybe I'll become let me go to IMDb she's known for Red 2 perfect strangers The Comeback

perfume oh yeah perfume was a good movie oh perfume that was a great movie different different different perfume I've clicked through different perfume oh and and in perfume she was model number three different different movie and if you Google just her name the only pictures that come up are pictures of her and Bruce Willis so I guess she's probably a little bit more wellknown to be a movie star's wife than a movie star herself but she is older than us though that is true so all right I mean but Bruce Willis but now she's going to have to look after Bruce wless for the rest of his life oh you were about to say the rest of her life changed at the last minute res of his life she's not though because he's just done 25 movies

that will pay for his his care well he doesn't have to do anything the um the the last little bit of Bruce Willis news and I I really like this is that last year the Razzy Awards the golden raspberries that come out each year after the Oscars and give out awards for the worst film and the worst actor um they really crucified Bruce Willis last year um and I'm sure they felt at the time that he really deserved it they have officially removed all of his Razzi Awards in light of this diagnosis no I call [ __ ] he still did those movies he did but under he's an old sick man yeah exactly he still did the movies I mean you're right you're right so just because he has a condition doesn't mean that his performance was

any better or worse those they still stand on what I would like to I would like to point out I find it funny that where Luke comes down on the other side Tak hard line on this one all right Luke I've got one for you here's a question you're not going to want to answer right if Elliot page in the past had won a Best Actress award would would Elliot paage have to give that back now no why well why would you well how can a man have a best female actress award but then but it goes back to the thing that they do on IM IMDb whereas known as this I've become so cynical too though I heard I saw someone on Facebook talk about talking about the the whole Will Smith thing and say like to um to be

able to do that to to to hit someone on live television and then receive one of the most prestigious Awards in entertainment and I rolled my eyes cuz I was cuz I've become that guy that's like oh the Academy Awards like prestigious yeah one of the things I've been saying for a very long time the the Academy Awards isn't for people who go to movies stuff for us most people don't know that and I didn't know that it's only like once you were kind of like I'm not I wouldn't say I'm an Insider but I know more inside baseball stuff about that industry now that I kind of go it's all [ __ ] yeah like most people do think it's quite prestigious yeah and not only that there's there's two two other points here number one is that it's not a straight like who was the best who voted

you've got a campaign you have them but but you have to petition them they don't just nominate you you've got to nominate yourself that's why got of garbage in my because they send yeah it costs money to nominate yourself like you you pretty much have to have someone behind you back it's like the presidential race right you can't vote for anyone you've got to vote for the people that the parties are putting forward to vote for but then also if you like the the best movie that wins it's not the best movie that the audience have gone to scene p and made like a billion dollars which well we can talk about if you want in the Afterparty we can talk about movies heard of the film that won best film this year what did win best hadn't even Apple power of the dog Apple

TV yeah yeah okay I've only SE seen I have a postgraduate film degree I'd never heard of it it's because very well at advertising I no well I have an Apple TV and it's been in my face every time I turn it on so I did know about it but that's why and we could talk about two films that the audience apparently did think were quite good at the Oscars in the Afterparty oh I want to know how do you how do you get to the Afterparty well you could head to patreon.com multip nerdgasm and uh for as little as a dollar a month you can support the show for $5 a month you can get episodes early and inter interact with us somewhat and for $10 a month you get the aforementioned Afterparty where we will be talking about the Snider

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