John Xenomorph: 500th Episode, Billy Mitchell & George Lucas Myths

This is my name is Matt. All right, as you know, my name is Luke. Yeah, I'm Daniel. And it's guys call me Dan. So that's probably what you'll hear most. I'm David and I like, I like playing games. I'm having like a movie since 1999. So I'm probably the biggest game of the group. I like games, also mostly RPG games As It Gets, I like films and TV. And I love Star Wars and little a little bait pile of stuff. Thank you for being a murderer and read the reviews you like

the website enough to listen to the podcast, or if for some reason you her, you're listening to this because some crazy reason people like it. If you've got any ideas for improvements, no, no, absolutely not. As we don't want their sleep. If it'll keep you listening, and it's probably value. Okay. Welcome to the first multiple nerdgasm podcast where your host. So I'm David Rule and this is a Matthew ham, Luke autism, and Daniel Miller, right? And when anyone ever again, I think I sounded a bit gay.

No, no, no. That's just Kidding. That was 11 years ago. Do I sound any less gay now? I think I sound a bit and okay, not at all. No, definitely more games necklace. Like well, the same amount, the same gay. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. God, how young were we then? We were babies back then. Yeah, exactly. A little we're old though. We were 30, I never thought you knew everything that we then went from there to actually, you know what, there's one other

clip I'd like to play. But I mean, I'll sit on that one. Actually. Okay whore I've got something. Look from now on sendagaya get was, we went from think we know everything through less, we know nothing. Mmm. I realize how little I know every single day. Hmm. Well, then we're not needed anymore. Anyway, this podcast writes itself, and when I say writes itself, what I mean, is a, I write to this podcast now. Yes, because we've got a

surprise listeners. We're gonna let me clip. Hmm, and what what? Yeah, why can't we drop on the a, I train everyone else's or we have all the board. Yeah, too good. Yeah, let's have a listen. Quiet on set. Where where am I? You must be the new director. Welcome to the set of the poem massage campaign commercial. Wait a minute, I'm in the past. This is 1976 indeed. It is my friend. Now if you don't mind we have a commercial to shoot places, please. People?

Oh my God, I'm directing Orson Welles indeed. You are my young friend places people, places. Now, let's get to work. All right. People were a go. Okay, now, awesome. I want you to look right at the camera and say we sell no wine before its time. We will sell no wine before its time. Okay. Now with more emphasis on no wine, we will sell no wine before its time. Yes that's it. Um, the world are useful for your biggest fan.

I have heard of you before. Or how about we spice up this famous line by adding no wine before its time unless you're a time traveler. I'm not sure that's appropriate. My dear boy. Come on Orson. It's a comedy sketch. It'll be funny. I'm afraid. I can't do that. I say well, I guess I'll just go back to my own time then. I should have just stuck to the script. This is what we have to look forward to with AI Riley, cash groups going forward. I have to say so I asked check

GPT, can you please write a sketch where Dan travels back in time and directs Orson Welles? And I wasn't expecting much. Then I certainly wasn't expecting that legitimate joke that it wrote about unless you're a tight like no one voice unless you're a time traveler. I don't know how it did that. No. Because listeners for those Don't know in the 70s Alton world's really did star in a series of commercials for Paul Masson wines and their tagline really was we sell no wine before its time. So not only does the a I do its research.

It also made a pun and put a Twist in the script based on that punch and I'm not joking. I didn't ask it to do those things. I just saw like, actually I'd locked on, and I said, first of all, I say, can you write? I said some stupid thing about the podcast that I was like, all right, that's fine. And I said, could you write a sketch where Danielle's back in time and director Orson Welles in a TV commercial? And that's what and it literally, what you just heard. Yeah. Filled in all the blanks yet. Amazing?

Yeah, amazing, I mean pretty good but for pretty good infinitely better than I was expecting. What I mean that that certainly inspired me to go and check out the app. I ignored it until then and I asked it to write a letter to you from Ron Gilbert saying that bastard. He was using some of your old Monkey Island fanfiction to be the premise of the new game and then I asked it to do a text conversation between Luke and Natalie Portman saying that she regretted not saying yes. We asked her out all those years ago and one that I didn't tell

you guys about. I also wrote one asked it to write one conversation where Dave, admits to me that he's been gay or this time. You said that to me, I did send it to him. Yeah. But it was its sheer fantasy. See because the Dan in that text message was very, very understanding and didn't make fun of me. We're in real life. I would just be pointing out every homophobic slur. He's made in his entire life. Oh yeah, back on the irony of it all. Hmm, correct.

Yeah, mmm. But well, I just like it's come a long way, remember used to see scripts floating around like that I wrote this, and it makes no sense. Yeah. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. It's sort of start off well and then just go completely off. The Royals. This had a start a middle and an ending. Yeah. And a joke like a joke and I've squiggled I Googled the no one before its time unless you're a time traveler in case that something it means from

somewhere or like, is that something? I'm just not some joke that exists. Sorry that I can't find anything like no no I've not heard of that and I am extremely up-to-date on the also dwells in years. I'm Paul Masson. Yeah, I tried to get some Paul Masson and I think it's a Available because it wrote it and I was reading through it. I'm like, okay, this is fine. This is fine. Wait a minute. What the fuck. How did it do that? Like, so I found a practical use

for it actually. So I I'm trying to lick really quickly, by the way, I gotta say. It just spatter. Yeah. Like it does it almost instantly, right? Yeah. So interesting. I guess what it doesn't need is time because it just processes. Yeah. Right. Like the fact that we would even think it would have to think about it over. Time and then ride it is because our brains are limited in ways. It is not well, because I was

thinking like, how long would it take me to sit down and get those pieces and come up with that gag? No wonder for its time unless your time travel because Dan travel back in time and it's just so yeah, it's clever. And when you came up with it, you'd be like, oh that's a good one. That's right, that down. Yeah, huh impressed. Yeah I I've started use it. Well yes. Okay, so I'm trying to write something in the moment and I find It I find it easy to come up with ideas and then I find it easy to edit shitty riding into

good writing. Yeah. But that part of just writing the initial stuff down just putting pen to paper is the hardest part so I have. Is it something at work? People will come up with like the I asked me to like review minutes, you have you something and I go yep. Oh this is not need to get rid that change that to this and I can tell you, I was suddenly you're a genius. Yeah. But for me to sit there and write they don't even know he can't Put it all this one, little one.

Right? I completely agree. I'm the same and chat gbt fills in that gap for you because you just punch in a bunch of data that's just a mind vomit and it goes. Okay, well let me write your first draft and then you go. Okay, Enter not bad. Yeah, I'll take it from here ingesting. All right, still hasn't been taught to be racist shit now, but it won't it will get it there. Yeah, I'll guarantee you. There are just hundreds of people. That's all they're trying to do.

Get me racist. Mmm, so we have it. I don't know that we said it yet but obviously, it'll it's obvious from the episode title, this is our 500th episode. Yeah, I can believe it. Yeah, well I mean they said we wouldn't make it to 100 and by they I mean people who have run on the spot, the very first person who spoke ever on this podcast as evidence from the clip I played at the start. Yeah, still feels like we've done the last 400 faster than we did the first 100. Well because we were very Casual about it in the begins. Well, remember the first it was

we all we have to all be together, right? And that's how we had to do it. So we would record for episodes that are time because I was traveling up from. Yeah. And we were suddenly that hide on the news. Not only that, we were, we were all together more often back then. Whereas now, I mean, even when we were, you know, those of us who were in, were in Sydney for a while, there was a period where we're busy and stuff like that. And so this is a good excuse every week to hang out and chat.

Yes. Yes, sir, work out quite well. Because, if we weren't doing this, I don't think we'd be talking really much anymore. I won't talk to you fuckers. Nah. Hmm. I only talked exclusively to people. I'm on podcasts with. That's right. That's right. I'm just waiting for Joe Rogan to call and then I want you guys anymore. He'll be my new friend and that 500 another 500 to come. See 500. Yeah.

How are you going to think so? We got 11 years will still be around. It took really mean to get so that you reckon another another 11 years will get Thousand. No, no, I do it faster. Yeah, I can 51. Hang on a minute. We can figure this out, fifty to eighty eight, so we do it. We're doing Roger. Maybe 50. Don't reckon. We can, we take a Hiatus for Christmas? Yeah. So, 50 year. So what's 10 years? 10 years?

Okay, so that's not okay, so, it's been about right? Yeah. Fine now, good shit. So yeah, we take it a year off now, back at that first episode, and I've not listen to that for a while, but I am going to assume we talked about Our Wars. Yes. I'm going to assume we all infected in on there's something I'd like to show you. Oh sure. Something contradictory. It's it contradicts something that we think we know about Daniel Miller or who is it? That I didn't know what a boffin was.

Let's just have a listen to this clip films and TV and I like Star Wars. No, I don't. I died a fucking hates. I was that more than 11 years ago, love. So yeah, you know what, Dan 11 years ago had was still trying to convince himself, the prequels all, okay. And hadn't seen though. I'm the, the, the 40 minutes that follow that clip was shitting on the Blu-ray. Release all over it. The colors are God, the inconsistency of that beer lightsaber River bike. I would have brought it I watch

The special features never watch the actual movies from the good good because the movies in that version were awful, not there's any good way to watch The Originals anymore even the D specialized and I do find it. Ironic that the the you've heard the audio quality there for guys, on a podcast with that level of audio quality. We've critiquing the quality of the film. It's a cloud. That's what critique is. You don't have to be able to do better in order to critique something. That's actually an interesting point that So, I mean, this is a

fair enough time to mention that I've, I've been down a Star Wars Rabbit Hole this week. Yeah, I mentioned you guys. I watched sorry. Oh, that was sorry. We're sorry Craig. Skip ahead to just chapter markers and so I'll try to go on for too long. Well, no, please. If she was a lot to talk about. Yeah, but I've reached a really interesting video that I sent you guys. That was a rebuttal to that house style was was saved in the edit and I Rocket Jump. Now, I used to I used to watch a lot of rockets.

Jump back in the day and then they got a bit too big for their boots and so I stopped watching this. This is got a fucking, poor it to shreds. Yeah and and to be honest like pretty can see they have a lot of evidence for he went back to the primary sources that they looked at and blown it out that they conveniently left out. A lot of information in one particular piece of information is that like their video says the their videos kind of saying the point of it all is that Lucas is an idiot and Star Wars was successful, despite him. And because of the work of a few

other people, his video is movie was saved by other people and he was a dumb-dumb. And I don't believe that no. Well, this video point if you want. Proof of that, this is the head. Which movies were talking about this, this, this video Point, remember them. When there was just a movie called Star Wars. Yeah. Well, because they imply in that in that Rocket Jump video, that they don't mention that there was an editor. Before Marcia Lucas and the others. They just employ.

It's implied that George was trying to Fumble through it and just made a mess of it. There was he hired someone to do it? He fired that person for doing it shit job and then they came on and clean up the mess. But the way that they portrayed is that these people came on and he didn't know what he was doing. Yeah. So it's just and it was different you. It is true that he had a screening with Spielberg and Brian De Palma, and said, what do you think? And they were like, well, I mean

there's obviously a lot of Placeholder. Yes, special effects and you know shots from other movies. Put in, let's discuss that and maybe we can find out what you were going to. What you're going to do in those. Yeah. How are you going to fix that? Yeah but but the rocketjump video implied that they saw the first cut and said well this is terrible. But actually this guy proves that they actually watched the fourth edit after Marshall Lucas. And at already am in they'd

already overhauled it. They'd already removed Biggs they'd already removed all of Of the other deleted stuff that already reshot the solo stuff later. Yeah just oh look yeah a lot of that stuff in there is factually it m. It seems based on the evidence provided just not true. So I think it's very interesting that coming. I think they'll coming in at from an angle to make it look like that's that was their goal that's fine. Except that they called it a video essay. Yeah.

It's become very trendy to say that George Lucas is an idiot who just got lucky. And there's a whole YouTube culture around there. Now, like the red letter Media stuff, doesn't they kind of started it to be honest? Yeah. Yeah. Because it's another video, another video. I watched pointed out how, like, literally, every every video on the internet, just steal stuff from the red letter media one, they just read the thing about red letter is they love Star Wars. Yeah, they hate, they hate that.

It was taken in the direction that we also criticized, but they actually have a lot of love for Star Wars, which is why they spent fucking hours discussing and deconstructing that And people just go see they hate it and they take it and run with it. The reason why I don't think it's a case of George. Lucas being lucky is I love his first three movies? Yeah and he was up for an Oscar before then too. So here's the thing that people don't really remember. If George, Lucas never made Star Wars, he would still be famous as the guy who made American

Graffiti because your people Star Wars popularity dwarfed that of American defeat it in ways that what everybody would describe. But what people Don't realize is that, that was an incredibly popular movie and then his name was well-known for being the person behind that movie. Yes. Yeah. And he actually, it could, he actually even with American Graffiti he is someone else wrote the script and came back with it and he went no this is terrible and he hates writing screenplays, which he should stick with.

Not like there's a reason but he went back and rewrote that all and turned that into what it was. Let's give original script was hot rods racing. Everywhere it was Of it like a drag movie, then that is being sort of a side component to it. I don't talk about drag in front of Matt more on that, in the after party, also got a limb and I'll say, the THX 1138 is one of my top three favorite science, fiction, films of all time. So, you can look, you side with THX 1138. American Graffiti. Then Star Wars. Yeah, that's a pretty good track

record. Yeah, what he went on to do later is I think, yeah. But what you've got to remember is that also I was a producer in that time to and he produced Indiana Jones, he produced Willow. He produced Poltergeist. He produced Goonies, he produced every movie. You love Howard, the Duck, fuck it out. Maybe I can find love in the animal kingdom. Well I'll link to some of the videos that I liked. There's four that I've got in here that I'll link to it. So I thought they pretty much

treat you like Styles. Check them out. If you don't like Star Wars, avoid them like the plague, they like hours long. It's just, yeah, one thing, I'll say that they do A very good job. These guys will love George Lucas and these guys often like the prequels to. And they point out that red letter media and other critics criticize things they don't like about the prequels but they don't explore engage with why? The things are that way mmm-hmm, and they do that in these videos. And I mean, it's very

convincing, it's very interesting. But at the end of the day, if I pause the video and think about it for a minute, we're still talking about The Phantom Menace, so which is still a lot of love. Buster Keaton. And those scenes of Jar, Jar, goofing around and shooting droids copies or not copies, but homages to the bus turkey necks do know. However, one of them is in that context, it doesn't work. Yeah. Look what think what really happened was? If we go back to like original

Star Wars, reset down with Spielberg and stuff and showed it, he was getting advice when he set down and showed off Phantom Menace. He was around people who are just going, Georges leekens, you're the greatest person ever, hmm? Also they're They designed all the characters before he'd written the script and then we have written a script. They filmed that first-draft script. Like, you know how many different people wrote On The Empire Strikes Back? Like, oh yeah, everyone even your original Star Wars, the

original Star Wars, script had no humans in it. Yeah, I mean, the first draft was set in the year 3000 and had dragons in it. Then it was all robots and aliens and Mace Windu was dropped riding a dragon. It he went from getting using back and getting advice. And people to being surrounded by people just we're agreeing with whatever he was drection. He was wanting to go and I think, yeah, the problem I think he bought into his own because I can see they've got lots of Clips in this him, talking about, you know, all the layers and metaphors and you know, it's

Anakin's descent into hell and this represents that and this and this is an homage to that and it's like, yeah. But the movie, that's George. That's Film School talk, you know, like that's that's a film scholar talking about film history and film Theory and that's great. And that's actually what he's the best that it's Kind of sad, though. You know what he did this in the first movie is like and that's the result. The Jedi are Samurai. You know what I mean? Like in, they are and they've even dressed like some, like, he

didn't hide any, who Quentin Tarantino that first movie. You know, what I mean? In a really great way stole from the best, and you created a really great movie, all of the, all of the dog fight scenes between the Tie fighters in the x-wings were stolen from his favorite world, war two movies and everything shot in the desert. Stolen from Lawrence of Arabia yet, like he is Grand and everything with the droids are stolen from Hidden Fortress by Akira Kurosawa and that's why it's great. He's awesome shots best. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure shots. Yeah, there's another, actually course Curacao. We used to just copy John, Ford and Sergio Leone so they all did. That's that's yeah. There's two other things I wanted to mention just quickly and and then we can move on if you want to. So one was that there was a comparison that I thought was really interesting. I No. This this it was a shot side by side shot comparison of the podrace with film, from the 60s, called Grand Prix. And at first, I was watching it,

I'm like, oh my God, that the shots are exactly the same and then you find out. George. Lucas was a cameraman on the film Grand Prix in the 60s and he just made the podrace the same thing. He shot back in the 60s. That's interesting. That is interesting and he is a car Enthusiast like he's a racing enthusiasts. Like it's quite interesting but not copying the shot. I would have liked His shot but it's great that it wasn't no marginality such a shock, but I would have quite happily skipped 30 minutes of a padre.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, correct you. But he thought that film was exciting in a 60s so I bet he was go to something else. They go to another shop that had that same part and that would just sell it to you. Like, why are back for more money? Like why did you have to dig about with this boy for so long? And one other thing I thought was interesting and it ties into what you know George Lucas doesn't like Empire Strikes Back. Yes. Talked about this before he Haze that we like it. There's a point that in this

way, they met them, because everyone talks about how the the shots are kind of boring in the prequels. The kind of boring in Star Wars as well, because he has a very particular F intentional. They have Clips were talking about this. He thinks the camera should be out of the way, put the actors in the frame and just film him doing stuff like a documentary. Like, if you were just filming exactly doing stuff. The camera, it shouldn't be drawing attention to itself. As should just be there film and stuff, and that's how style was Return of the Jedis more like

that Empire Strikes Back, has a lot of artsy shots that he probably fucking hates like one in particular. There's one when the doors are closing on Hoth and is like a slow zoom in The Princess Leia's face. He specifically said in the past, he fucking hates that, she really. Yeah, but that's how we get inside their feelings as the camera speaks to us in the Cinematic language. I guarantee if he was still directing making movies as he was, he'd be all into this deep fake stuff now because he doesn't want actors.

He likes people to read his lines. He's like now, I can make a lie, Portman do whatever I want. Yeah, look looks face lit up when you say that. Oh no II. Find that deep fake stuff terrible. No I don't think I made some sort of crazy. You can make Natalie Portman do whatever you want. Did you see that twitch streamer? That got work order part of it. Did you see that? Luke know you followed which one? I don't know.

He's all the Yeah, all that twitch guy who was caught he was streaming any crumbs. Yeah the Chrome's have overdone it was a deep fun toward paid site of a of one of these fakes to look up other streaming his friends. Yes. Looking at Deep fake porn of his friends. Who are other streamers girls. I got like four, guys. You guys don't look like deep fake porn of each other. You got caught on a stream and then had to sit there and be confront and I can his wife confronted him like on stream is all like there's this, it's God.

God. And then it's just so do not like creepy deep fake stuff. It's, it's terrible. I think. Hmm. I mean, it's terrible, if it's porn and if it's against somebody's will, if it's George. Lucas just making a movie and putting John Wayne and no, no, I'm not sure what. I don't think thinking about, if it's porn, it's just if it's against someone's will. Hmm. The forget about that. Like it's you taking someone's likeness and making them do something and at the end the day

that was they'll making them do that. To make money. Yeah. Well, I mean, this kind of thing was flagged in the 80s when yes, James Cameron, or Back to the Future, is a good was going to say, yeah. They modeled the actor on, they actually put a, you know, a fake nose on, and you acted to make him look like Crispin Glover. He sued, and he won, and then a lien three. Yeah. James Cameron alien Harvest. It was yeah. Michael biehn. And who's the director?

David Fincher? Used a photo. Though of I would like to see James Cameron, direct Bill Hicks in an alien. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't we all just take fucking drugs become the there was a photo of Michael biehn, what? From him being on. Oh yeah. That's right. And the words deceased next to him right? Yeah. And Bill Paxton went. That's my fucking photo. You didn't ask me Michael.

Biehn, might not think it's my photo. Oh yeah. And then they, they duked it out. Michael biehn, sorry. Welcome to mybinding one because yeah. Bill Paxton is no longer with us. So, oh, you saying Michael biehn be impacted. And I'm just asking questions that listeners can figure it out for himself. Do your own research throwbacks. Before we get off, hold on. Before we get off the topic of deep, fakes and special effects as a segue.

I'm wondering, guys know that people aren't kissing each other in movies anymore. They're using CGI to kiss really. I briefly saw something about this way more than you think. Right? Franklin jealous fault. They were like, you know what, maybe we don't need old men. I've got a list here of movies where the kisses aren't real, right? Don't ruin. A last kiss for me then. If I had a dollar for every time, you've said that to me, get out of my bedroom. So there's been so there's a

film out at the moment, right? Called you people. Mike what do you mean you people? Oh no. I think that's what it's about, right? Okay. It's all right. Well I mean look I don't know. But it does have some African-Americans in it and I think that's probably that's probably the context of it but there's a there's a moment where and I want to get this, right? There's a moment where Jonah Hill. Hmm. And somebody London ameria

ameria London kiss, but they didn't want to kiss. So, let us show character named. Okay, regardless, they didn't want to kiss want to kiss special effects, kiss hereupon, she repulses him. I'll make sure the I've got some other some other reasons why other films to ask but have not so pretty down and what about think is quite a good one? Are you talking about Harry Potter? The Harry Potter? When I think it's a good reason to. Yeah. So when they filmed, no, I haven't seen this Harry Potter

movie because I achieved out of the bank Goblet of Fire. Yeah. I dropped out of Harry Potter. That ones. I've seen it it's 100 and Harry. Sure. No, it's Harry and Ginny. Oh sure. Okay. Gz when they filmed that he had already turned 18, she hadn't. Oh, okay. And so they were like, you can't and the actors are like, not let us do it. And they like, you can't. And if we're doing it right now, right? In front of you, we can't see.

Yeah. Okay. I mean, I got so then I'm like using CGI allowed the filmmakers to still include Kiss between the characters. But in an age-appropriate way except it's sorry, they would ya. But yeah, I mean I know this is just the Articles wording but that makes it sound even creepier. Yeah, we may think that we make some kids kiss, but it's okay because we did it in a computer. Yeah, look, look, here's a video I've made of me kissing of Mary young kid. It's fine because idea using

Leonardo, DiCaprio's not allowed to kiss his girlfriend so he does it on the computer. That's right. Did you say that tweet? This week, we're where somebody tweeted, I feel who always, but they tweeted, maybe women just get bored of Leonardo once they turn about 25. Yeah. But there are other reasons and as far as I know, that's the only reason that's the only film where the we don't want them to come across as pedophiles has one movie. I can't remember what leads but they weren't, they had to do it because they'd already sort of

finished filming and I had to do two keys at separate times. I forget what movie. It will ya. There's a bit of that. There's also been covid fears. You know people here. Yeah. Just don't want to kiss anyone during covid and also, apparently, Kristen Stewart, your favorite actress we haven't spoken about for a while. When when Robert Pattinson was asked to kiss her. He said I'd rather go across the hall and it's literally repulses him. Yeah, so she does. Ulsan.

But I'm sure he repulses her because she's a lesbian as far as I know. Right. So they eventually break up. Someone's marriage by Sleeping with her. Someone's husband child. Yeah bitches well but the director of Snow White. Yeah. William you bank was it or was? No is ribbit. Ribbit Sanders was one of those show. It's one of those guys is one of those two people could be. Maybe she's just a terrible person. It was the guy who directed The

live-action ODST trailer. Don't that guy. He talked about back in the day. That's right. Yeah, ended his career, pretty much too. And he was, he was married to Atticus Ross as sister. That's who he cheated on Jesus Christ. That's a, that's like, all right. Yeah, like George Lucas. How do you do? Such passion that, I know. Right. But anyway, to finish the story, they kissed on film normally and then in the daily things like they were watching.

It's like human beings and like like a 400 year old. Old would kiss, an 18 year old? Yeah. If we don't collect all, that's not appropriately better CGI that up. Yeah. No, no. So they really kissed, but then when they watched it back they The Producers said to each other, they do not like it. They are not attracted to one another like, right? So is there something we can do with special effects to make them more kissy to make? So yeah, to make it look like they're really getting into it.

Hmm. The other one. I'm actually that surprises me is part of the Caribbean at World's End in the way they would it is great in one of the scenes, the kiss between Elizabeth Swann and Will Turner was enhanced with CGI. Like they put tongues in a cell like Davy Jones is in the background. We have got the three examples and they give reasons for the first two but for the parts that could read. It's just weird. No, reasonable human enhance but what did they change? I mean, not that it matters that

movies. I haven't seen that one. I've got the best soundtrack but it's the worst one like movie overall II dropped out about, after the first movie. I watched the one with the crabs, which ones that the crabs crabs move a boat, right? Oh, that's this one. Yeah, that's, that's this one. Yeah, that was fucking garbage. Yeah, I'm making another one, they've made two more, they've made it. This far. I think in Tokyo, but aren't after the trial, weren't they throwing money him to make another?

I don't know. Is there any obvious See, there's some without Johnny Depp or there isn't no, no think there is no, you don't need all the pain and then there's one with the guy who played Julius Caesar in Rome. Oh shit. Okay. He's the villain kick. Kick kick. Yeah. And I respect the guy from The Terror. Yeah, yeah I love him. He's also an Excalibur. Sure. I don't hit that. I don't think they'll even

attempt to make a pirates without they will. They'll just For it to blow over my dad. Watch a buddy comedy between Ian McShane and that guy who played Caesar in Rome for sure different film. They're not hiring one party buddy cop. Yeah bring him back. Yeah because until you and find another brought him in one they brought fucking what's his name? Barbosa back. So why not bring others back? Barbosa was dead, they brought him back the the Aussie guy. The guy from The King's Speech what's his name?

Oh yeah Geoffrey Geoffrey Rush Shhhh, you're not allowed to put him in stuff anymore, Matt, but I didn't do it. They, he got his dick out. Matt, you can't get your dick out together all the time. Yeah. But did you get him? Did you get your dick out in front of that? Girl, from Orange, is the New Black. Know. He did though and so he's not allowed to be in movies anymore. It's going to see which go, but I haven't seen it. So it's not going to help. Look, we've got some other.

Fake did fake news. That that ideas, think news Norfolk news the fake. No, no, no. Tariff would be faking is 0. Or which apparently fight because the way he's describing the way they D aged him, it's just deep fakes. They took footage from The Cutting Room floor from the old Indie movies, okay? And used it to deep fake him from now, back to what he looked like back then. And of course the reason why this deep fake is different is because he can tell you about it. If you agree to anything

hateful. Yeah, those three seasons and whatever you want, least at least two of those. And ago and I don't leer as do what you want. I don't give a shit. Where is my wife. Yeah. So he reckons, this is really good. He said he watched any was like, oh, it just looks like they found some old footage. Okay. Then again, they are well, who else a lot of money to say that so. Yeah. Say yeah, but can I just say,

let's just make a whole bunch of young. Harrison Ford movies. Now, what are we doing? Why are we wasting our time making Any other movies? Yeah, that's their winking behind him going. Don't worry guys in yeah it's forever. Yeah they got him to sign something. Yeah, we did no one else but him will be Harrison Ford. We're making a lot more movies even after he's dead. Well I mean James L Jones took a big paycheck and let them sample, just voice so that they can write him say anything.

In a Darth Vader voice for the rest of Eternity. So maybe Harrison Ford's gonna agree to that too. I hope he does. But then one thing is unless I do the whole thing sort of CGI, it sort of sucks for the person who actually does actually play the character. Hmm. That they get Chris Brackett, some people are just a stuntman. They're happy to just stand here is Chris Pratt. You just do the voice. Did you guys see that video? Where legal eagle tallied up all of the crimes that Indiana Jones committed during Raiders of the

Lost Ark? I haven't. So, yeah, it's very funny. So he went through and he actually, like there's a lot. Of wrongful death. There's there's there's one or two straight up murders but then there's a lot of like when he just drives the truck through this shoddily, hastily made construction site and people just fall off the building. He's like, well, they're all dead. And so that's, that's manslaughter. And then of course as we've discussed many times, he also adds the statutory rape charge.

Yeah. Yeah, which is Canon. This is he says that to he's like and just when you think I'm reading too far into this, this one is the proof. It's yelled out for you. Well, we get to find out if the movie is good on the 30th of June. Yes, not so it's very soon. So it's got young Indian it and one thing it doesn't have in it is any jokes about him being old because Harrison Ford was like, that's not funny. No one cares. Yeah. Well, I think it didn't do draw attention to it.

You groaning, either? What's that? I didn't work in the Crystal Skull. No, I think he knows that. That's what you said. Don't get me wrong. Funny, that's not why that movie sucked. No, no, no. But I think he regrets like people don't want to be reminded that he's old. If he's doing stuff, just don't worry about it. He said there's one of why am I still doing this joke? And that's it right? Yeah, but yeah, it doesn't need to be a real thing.

It's a trailer. I belong in a museum? Yeah, I've pissed my pants. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I mean the most iconic scene in Raiders was shot because he was shitting in his own pants. Yes, that's true. There you go. They all were. It's like poetry it Rhymes. We would have said that was murder. Yeah. Yes he did. He said he said a lot of people would like would try to argue. He said, like, Indies lawyer would try to argue that that was

self-defense, but yes, there's no actual threat. The guy had a sword but he wasn't near him. It wasn't coming. Why is waving it around? Yeah. And Indie had a fucking gun. So he was he really showed grateful. He was just a street juggler. I fucking love that movie. So good, and I'll fight anyone who says Indiana, Jones doesn't change the plot of that movie, he fucking does. And also, it's not about that mmm-hmm, this is a, it's a great, it's a great fun, family movies, our family movie.

When I It was when I grew up, man. Yeah, probably. I probably wouldn't put it on for my kids, have kids watch face is melting as often as we used to as a kids. Yeah. And yeah, do the kids. These days hate the Nazis like we did. Well, it was a lot closer to the war when we some of them are not see, it was only 30 years on the internet. Yeah. Yeah, like when we were kids out granddad's, we're still like don't trust the fucking Germans. Yeah not my mind wasn't

obviously you know they trust me English Maddie. Yeah, we've got some follow-up in particular. Dan you were asking about. Aux fucking I was I want Nate was like I know Portuguese. Fuck. Yeah. And he's written in thank you there and then good on your way that. So I'm going to read this, right? So this is a just question. Dan was questioning the fact there are no female aux, right? Yeah. And all the Rings. And all right.

So this is this is who and what do they fuck? Okay. I'm just going to read it because I can paraphrase, leave. Please do please do back in the very early days before the fall of the And city of gondolin morgoth had a habit of hunting and capturing any elves, he found in the wild he tortured and he mutilated them. But the weird part and I don't ever gave up gondolin, okay, this even applied after the old broken. These elves were both male and female and after centuries underground they took on the name orc recently in rings of

power. We see one of these Orcs for the first time. Even in all talking is writing was never an original orc as a character. Of course, these Orcs fucked over the generations. Of course. Fucking they started taking what else are you gonna do down there over time? They started taking on the more orc like appearance. But the originals were still around they broke off into because of inbreeding which includes goblins. Yes, there were female donkey Hobbit movies.

This one off of thousands of years then morgoth has finally beaten and the Orcs or vanished until they came back from underground. Following Sauron now in the new show, the original Oak that is still around is a direct threat to Sauron, because he has genuine. LT of the younger Orcs. Okay. So I can watch the finger pass. I don't know what that's about, but he's right, it's confusing. I am, I am came to watch that because Tolkien wrote two different versions of all creep reduction because he was a fucking sick bastard because he,

he was thorough. Yeah, they were. I'm not gonna question. I'm not gonna sit here and write a language for everyone without describing their genitals and where those genitals going, what's in his Publishers office. And he said, look, I've written how the ox reproduce again. Yeah, he's right. What these in the appendices. Again, might main book they both reproduce like everybody else does and can be made and we all reproduce but that's the Chrysalis, I assume that. Yeah. Well, he did Jackson leaned into, they can be molded from

the earth. The latter is what we saw cerumen doing in the movies. But Gandalf in the book says he makes he's a home to do that. He Hey dorks, with goblins and Men implying just more fucking, okay? And just to be clear, that's Peter Jackson, was named not putting himself in the movie means mankind. It doesn't mean literally, just numb it away meant for people are writing in gunhawk. Nate says men, but he said that was a bit much Peter Jackson, so he went with the Pod thing. So like the way, no one is going to put the teenager gangbang

from the end of Stephen. King's It. I know I know they are Implied, it might have happened, but yeah, but what does it mean? Goblins and men, and how do they breed well? Oh, he goes on. Yes, please. They might be mutated. But the DNA of the goblin is still elf and they are always having half-human kids. Even elrond is half elf. So, I think the bigger changes, the young Orcs are not Immortal anymore. There to corrupt in the light of the noldor left them long ago. I don't know what that means.

Anyway, I've just summarized Lord of the Rings know, so, I haven't gotten a long time to sum up. No one wants to imply that Ox fuck. So they don't show female or almost do I make you? Do you want to imply it very strongly? So go on anyway. That's that's it yet magnificent. He always says I may be a little too invested in Lord of the Rings? No. No investor just the perfect amount. Just the right amount.

Correct. Yeah, that's magnificent. I knew there'd be an answer because talking doesn't leave any stone unturned and I knew that some go. Well, it's about fucking yeah. That's right. I'm currently reading. Well, I've lost my page, but apparently reading Lord, fouls beIN the first of the Thomas Cullen, and the unbeliever Chronicles by Stephen Donaldson, which is about a man from outside, who gets sucked into a high Fantasy Realm. And the first thing he does is rape a fairy. As you do, we go.

What you were wearing something else I thought? You got to be bringing that off because that's probably I could probably discuss. He talking to mention mine Camp from the podcast. My I have Sit at reading mine Camp from time to time but I've never been in. Are you opening? What am I grateful? I'm rich. I'm done several books at once, Luke. Which one were you referring to? Well, you've got on here you that you read some Arthur C Clarke? Oh yes.

Yes, I did read some Arthur C Clarke. In fact, I'm still going. I'm reading the 2001 A Space Odyssey book which I assume you were. Okay. And I'll go out. And I would say definitively this is better than the movie. This is a because patterns. Yeah. It correct. Yeah. And the same stuff is implied, but it's described very well. And in context, this is, this is excellent. I appreciate 2001 A Space Odyssey as a piece of Cinema

history, but I don't actually enjoy watching it as a movie. Is this. What's wrong with me? This is very good. I like it but just not that. I don't enjoy it. Yeah like fucking an orc. Look that's all do it here. Look it but I don't enjoy it because I quite liked 3001. Sure, you know. Know, I plan to keep going. I plan to keep going. This is good. I mean it did deviates from the film in many ways to in ways that make much more sense of the stuff that happens in the film. Well, especially because towards

the end when they because I writing the book and filming at the same time towards the end Stanley, Kubrick just stopped returning. Turning phone calls. Yeah, you wouldn't like wouldn't share? Do you only how we finish? Yeah, this is what I'm doing now. And just, yeah, sort of just yeah, forgot but I love because obviously standard cubic has been very very secretive about that ending in any time. Anyone's asked is like if you have to ask you've missed the point, the point is not knowing what that ending is about.

Like the mystery is the point where as Lynch it, like there's a recording of a radio interview with Kubrick on Japanese radio, where the guy Is interviewer just doesn't understand what the mystery is the point means. And so curing finally goes fine I'll is this is just for Japan. I'll just fucking tell you what happens and literally just spells out the end of it. Yeah, right. Haha the unite. Yeah, thank you. The into my favorite sort of Hardcore science fiction authors because a lot of the stuff he writes about he also ties back to actual science as well.

Yeah, I like that. He is a fucking Prophet. What? Yearwood was this book written in 60s, 70s to 60s, right? So a, they he, they reading newspapers on what's essentially tablets iPads, right? And he says the quicker. It was too for people to read the news was directly proportional with the amount of triviality that the news became so, and it's like a so true. There's also one bit and this isn't even a plot point, they're just spectacular. Relating shit. That might happen and he says China, my engineer a virus and

spread it worldwide not to kill everyone. But just to essentially blackmail, the World by charging everyone for the vaccine for me. And I was like, holy shit. Now that I think that's what covid-19. But yeah, that's a crazy thing. That is something that could actually happen in this day to other authors. I feel like I like that are Ray Bradbury. Yeah, to you. You can go back and read and it's like, how did he know like how was he? So not not not exactly. Correct but thematically

certainly on track and Isaac Asimov as well. Yeah fucking genius. Like what a what a mind I bought some books. You reminded me. I had not on the podcast. I don't think I had a rent to you about the xenomorph thing. Yeah. Yeah. They're not called Xenomorphs listeners. They're called alien. They're just say I refer To a Xenomorphs least once or twice, I'll stop you there. Bat. There were two book calls a in a moss.

He's just, he's just a fancy douchebag waste, an alien. No one else in that movie uses that word as the one time it's used. No. But people not in that movie Ripley calls them Xenomorphs in the third one. I think you'll find. Are you sure? I don't think that's true. Hold on. Well, I'll find out. That's why I know it was books while I was thinking that I did. Some searching on that because I was trying to figure out like, how did because the and I discovered one thing that annoys

me is that Ridley. Scott Credit in the credits for alien, Covenant refers to it as xenomorph and I was like, well I'm fucking doomed now if Ridley Scott's calling it that I'm fucked. So yeah, you can't argue. Yeah, but you can because George Luz, not installs pronounced at at, and he's wrong about that. He seemed very wrong. So, but anyway, so I was just looking Like that. I saw something that said, you know, when Bishop crawls through the pipe, right to to in Aliens Bishop calls with a pipe to use a communications array to bring down the Dropship.

Yeah. And then they talking about how it's going to be really dangerous. They have to cut a hole and he goes to the pipe and they give him a gun and they and he says, don't worry, I'm not stupid. I only use this if I have to but you know and then we're led to believe that he never encountered any is it all because suddenly he's just there using the thing. But apparently, there was a scene where he encounters an alien, it's not in the film was never actually shot, but it's in this book. Hey always.

At Ellen Dean Foster by that, it's somebody. This is also a linear and Foster. Okay, yeah, and this is also a linear. Hey, so I've got Alien aliens and Alien 3 by Ellen, Dean Foster. And I'm going to find out if anyone says Xena Often there. Nobody, tonight's tie in film fiction. Like Ellen, Dean Foster, man, I'd love to meet him one, you know alive, yeah. Yes, I think he is. Yeah, I think he did a Star Wars book at least a couple years ago like you're right.

He did another station of force awakens in here. Yeah, okay. Now that was probably 10 years ago now but still yeah, yeah, it's certainly caused a lot of confusion because I mean, I mean, he never came in and went And I'm the xenomorph know my name is John xenomorph. Yeah. Fuck another xenomorph then you could be right. I just got have residual Trauma from having an argument with somebody about it as a kid. And so it literally makes my eye twitch when someone calls them Xenomorphs because I'm like they're not called Xenomorphs.

Yeah just have you look to try and find you like we can find something. There Ripley says it and on-screen rent.com they just go through. They don't say where she says it but there's just a whole thing like Burke was trying to bring the scene of both home like the old saying they say xenomorph throughout the article. Right right. Yeah. I mean they don't say Ewok in no doubt of the Jedi either so anyone who actually thinks they're called Ewald a variety of Us, Predator movies at. I think.

And all the certainly, all the books in the comics had like took it. As that's what mystery, although I think the somewhere they refer to as xenomorph and then a number, which implies that there are others which means it does just mean alien. But then, yeah, Yeah, it doesn't matter. I just don't know why it makes me so mad. That's yeah, yeah. It's one of those things that gets under my skin. For some reason. You like one of those guys that when people go Frankenstein you go, oh the human in that book

Frankenstein. That does the frankness I know that and I'm like, I'll say it for funsies but doesn't actually annoy me when someone because the reason it came up this is because I was at trivia. And one of the questions was it was about named the alien species, and one of them was that and I was like, I said to the everyone at the table, the answer is getting write their name, right? See the answer to I said rise in him off but then right, in Brackets next to it, they're not cause dinner Moss. Yeah. But by then, yeah.

And everyone's like, we talking about and Jenna's like don't ask him. Yeah, just like that. Let it read asked, Lance Henriksen. Next time you see me? I think it's some of the books and stuff. It's a xenomorph. And then there's a number designation, because of, depending on where the egg hatches. Because remember, when the egg hatches depends on, which species that they connect with changes the way that you, yes. But there's also a part of that life, start cycle.

That doesn't make any sense because Was, what is the Facehugger is? It is in the morph, it comes out of the egg, then it gives birth to the xenomorph. Okay, so so in this in from the books, every xenomorph will carry one egg with them and so if there's no Queen around, they will lay an egg and that if that Facehugger goes, that will create the queen. And what is that face hugger? There's their child like, is that my son when I not oh, hold on, you're saying they're coming really responsible for that. Thanks for everything. Everything Immortal carry one

egg. When you say carry an egg, you don't mean carry to term look Carrie but they've got one ring an egg from the backpack. Yeah. No that's what I mean. Who laid the eggs? Does the Queen Alia International League? Don't know that species? Probably long gone because you're gonna remember every time. Yeah, species that xenomorph has that alien? Yeah. Yeah. Like that one, egg did technically becoming sort of a

new offer correct, which is why there's a fucking whatever. Then goes where it goes and it goes off crested dog. Well that's another thing, right? That's just that's just something for subspecies. They never said that explicitly in Alien 3 but like it at that has became heavily implied it. Yeah. That's what I wish. They'd just not sure she gets this one's a bit different. Well, yeah, it's a bit doggy differently. Yeah. But yeah. You don't even so, the other

thing is this, this one alien, I'm interested to see what happens at the end of this because based on what you were saying in Alien, right? If you go on the DVDs, There's a scene cut from the film for pacing reasons. We're Ripley encounters Dallas. I think in the bowels of the ship and he stuck to the wall, right? And they're dissolving him to make the egg. Oh, that's what they do that for. Well, not anymore, right? Is it? Because James Cameron change? Sure changed a lot.

Yeah, but originally that was what and if they it just if they just hadn't cut that Seen out. He'll they'll the sequels would be completely different because it be no Queen. Yeah, yeah. That acid is to melt the person and use the biological material into the egg into an egg. Oh, that's fucking cool. We can watch that scene on the DVD. I want to obliterate that. Yeah. Yeah they literally cut it at the last minute. The right foot four times. Yeah. Okay.

I will I will Spritz Dallas. She talks to the Alien 3 video game that they came out with for both the Super Nintendo. And so I'm like God, which have completely different Studios, made both of them, but both very, very good games, possibly better than the movie at least better than the cinema cut. I am. So, I like a leaf or a soft spot for it. I don't know why. Yeah, just away. No, no, it's good. It's when the assembly cut right. Is that what they call that version?

David Finch has first? Well I don't think he even did that. I think he left well before in fact I don't think he was still there when Lance Erickson was there. I can't remember Benny. It does seem to protect on weekly. Could everyone just check their recordings quickly. Sure. Cause I forgot to hit the back up one. I'm really I'm checking out. Okay, cool cool. Yeah, I've just hit the recording on here, I forgot to hit the back up that.

Yeah and welcome to the show episode 500. Here we go again. Like to intro the assembly cut. I think it's called the assembly cut is much longer and has a lot. Interesting religious stuff that they cut out because it was all very Yes. Monkey slow slow. Yeah. And I like it but then I had never seen that movie at all and we watch that version as he fucking hated it because it gets things do happen, more than once. Like I love you have to keep trying to get out and then they

captured again and it gets out. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. So that's that's what's boring about it? Is you like how we did this but that scene where they've got the motion sensor and machine guns is Fucking excellent. When it's in the tunnel and they just ya hear those guns firing. So they know it's coming towards them. Like that wasn't in the theatrical cut and it is X. It is a great set. That is yeah. That makes a movie a million times better.

I just that that, yes in there. Yeah, you mean aliens or Alien 3? No Alien 3 early, and then have machine guns in alien 3? I think you're talking about aliens. This, no, no, there is three the turrets and the fucking things in that bright and they don't have any guns, an Alien 3. Am I thinking of aliens? And I, it's all that. Yeah. They lian's yeah, Alien 3 is the monks, they only have is like an Axe and so they have to lure it using them as bait into the Ironworks so they can download the oil.

Just the only way they could think of to kill it because they don't have any weapons guns. Yeah you are correct. I mean maybe there was maybe they did delete something good but they definitely did because there's a whole scene where there's a whole sequence in the assembly code of Alien 3, with one of the little prisoners. But they've become religious because they're on this Prison Planet. They're almost like monks. And he were also, the first draft that was just a monk planet and they built the sets and then they fired the director and then they changed.

Yeah, it's a fucking mess there now prisoners. So they one of them gets a bit nutso and scared and starts work, decides. He's going to worship it and then he lets it out of the cage, the prison area. They've got an in, I think that's cut from the final one. My favorite scene in the whole movie is when they're all in the kitchen and they Making fun of Ripley. Now look there's no fucking alien and it comes out of the roof and grabs that guy and they often panic and it's like blood flow from the ceiling. And then it goes all quiet and

that guy standing there with a chair. And he goes fuck, just can't so good. Yeah, looking for this fucking scene. I mean, there's definitely a turret sequence in Aliens. Yes, I thought that's what you were talking about. Might have thought you're talking about as well. Probably is Maybe I just need to sit down to watch the target sequence. Now, can we get, can we avoid sort of finish up? Move on. Can we talk about just some more fault news that I just want to

get out there? Sure that Billy Mitchell. Yes, because we've been talking about Billy Mitchell for probably ten years at least like yeah we've been talking about him since remember, when we were first talking about this went after seeing the king of Kong the first time talking about how that was sort of making me out to be a villain, In which he sort of really and we were like, maybe it's biased. Maybe he's not so bad. And then someone something awful said, no he came to town and burn down a arcade because he got mad at him and I was like is that yeah.

Yeah there's a lot of worries about him when we everyone Under the Sun. Yeah. When you when you Google Billy Mitchell, though comes up Billy Mitchell restaurateur. Yeah. Because he owns that. Is it a rib joint that he owns? Yeah. Hot. Yeah. He's crazy. He owns a You businesses. I think he's got his hot sauce and all that and B does. Yeah, a restaurant chain but it's all week because he's actually sewing an Australian

YouTuber, is he calling? Yeah, because I forget his name call someone but one thing like because he came out went like, he's a cheater. Yeah. Well, it's like so many people have but for some reason he focused on this well, YouTuber, I mean he's been stripped of his title. So I don't know why. This one guy's saying that he's a cheater is for he'd also still doing Twin Galaxies as well, is that he got caught, he got caught cheating and then they were like, well he's probably cheating the other times and he's like, prove it.

I'll sue you let it slide but then the internet went. All right. They finally have proved because the ones where he's film The 13 cities. Filmed it. Well, I've got witnesses. Who saw me the Witnesses are? He's friends? Yes, very shady. Well, he is for the next that's where it comes in today's news, because somebody has come up with a photo Of of the alleged machine with him standing in front of it, that he claims was the machine that we directly. If he got her on that machine, which is still possible.

He still possible only got that school. But machine do the whole thing with this comes down to he says he got on a regional machine. Yes. Machine that we got a photo of isn't original to assume a have got the score. Yeah not the machine Central Hospital big he he's still lying no matter what Yes. Yeah it couldn't be case of he's not lying. He's just really miss remembers. I mean that's very possible. I'm big devil's advocate here. Yeah, I think you'd remember someone yeah. Like nobody hears this joystick

on. It is very different when when he was first hailed as the winner. When Walter day, is it, Walter day from Twin Galaxies. Was that was said, I'll hold on. Because was it? We be John, we be If we can, we Steve wiebe. Yes, Steve wiebe stop playing Donkey. Kong and wipe my butt. Yeah. When he has brought I can tell a lovely man, and a great day. Yeah. When he broke the record and then Billy Mitchell's just waltzed in with a VHS tape, God

not so fast, he is me beating it for another day. Yeah but even since the day after that, when people have been going through frame-by-frame going, oh there's a little glitch here between the frame before. Or it rolls over. Yeah. Like it was always a b us and the fact that you know Billy Mitchell looks like one of the most untrustworthy people you could ever encounter and he's been and approve, a proof that he cheated. Other games, it's sort of like if you look at the thing is it's not like he's a bad player like

it's not like he's know what games or anything like it wasn't heated, one of the first people to complete Pac-Man right? I mean it perfect score. Yes he's an excellent place achieved Yang's. Yeah. No one's not saying that he's not, just maybe not the things that he's claiming, he's achieved. Yes, all of them. So, the it's quite interesting to see where these lawsuits are going to go after this, because he's whole thing goes off. Those are original hardware and then here's a photo of the Event Viewer at which shows not

original heart. Yeah, the second generation machine. It's not, why would you take a photo in front of the machine? That was Michelle. He probably didn't realize he was going to have to lie about it later, you know? Yeah, yeah, correct correct, Matt. Yeah, he hadn't worked out the light yet. The whole thing about the joystick that is showing is if it was on original Hardware, the original joystick controller for Donkey Kong was for way. So, up down left, right with the control, that it's on the

machine that we use, its eight way. Mmm. So he goes like a nice anchor doll. You can go diagonal, which could give you an advantage? Hold on. Can you go diagonally Donkey Kong again? You've got the controller to sort of Click when you, when you In the full white, you basically stop. Oh, just right to me to go up activist sideways and jump in. There is this way you can go up and right at the same time so gives you you're not supposed to be able to do that in the

original. Zoe mean no clear? Right? The One Direction. Hmm, there you go. I love it. I mean, I don't think it's been a response to it yet and I'm dying to see what the rest are. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad we can talk about him again. I'm glad he's back in the news. Yeah. Yeah. Before he disappears forever. Is that a threat? I'd be worried if the 500th episode of Live didn't threaten somebody.

That's yeah, that's right. Yeah, I mean, In this episode anniversary episode is told. Kristen Stewart to go across the hall. He's threatened a prominent figure in doing the after he hasn't called us out for not being woken up, but he will be. What if you're if you're a patron or you'd like to become one, then you can join us in the after party where Matt is going to explain to us why he stands with JK Rowling after all the controversy. I'm not saying Agree or disagree. I can. I can tell already which side

looks going to come down on. Listen, I'm going to be the tiebreaker to patreon know. I'm just laying the gasm. See, I like the truth. I like Hogwarts Legacy. The game is great. Now I thought well yeah you say that. You can fight Anthony Rapp about that. You can't say that but when they get as opposed to, some of them are gonna get some.com do it, but then go to patreon.com/scishow. People nerdgasm before we go, I do have one more thing I want to show you guys. It's the think something I

noticed today, right? Hmm. I'm going to play a clip right now. You're going to know what this is right. You're about to hear this listeners anyway. Again, that's all for this week. Thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show. You know that is obviously. Hmm. This is the original from the first episode that's all for this week. Thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show. Sure what the fuck happened there?

And when did that happen? You didn't replace that. You didn't see. There one day gone, that should be lower in pitch, and then play with it and swap it out of. I have no idea when that happened, maybe it's degraded over time. I have no idea. I'm no, that's not a real thing this to start writing. Wow. You know, and the funny thing is that we it's running out of batteries map because it's not in the blockchain. Yeah, we are. That's the machine learning version of it when we used to do

fake endings to this podcast. We would also say, thank you for listening. Opening, which is actually not how that starts that's all for this week. Yeah. No. Because I skipped to the end, just to see what we said at the end, it wasn't very interesting. The ending of the first episode, by the way, we just trailed off and then played that have a copy of the first episode. You know, in fact, I think the reason we made that was because the ending of the podcast was just us talking and then we just stop talking.

We just does like his know anything podcast over. Yeah. Yeah. But then it came on and I was like, that sounds So different and yeah. Anyway that's all for this week. Thank you for listening for the last 500 shows. That's all for this week. Thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show. If you enjoyed it, then please subscribe in items to receive episodes. Automatically will see you next time.